Yes, I read about the hardware stuff regarding Band 71, but regardless, I am still curious if anyone has tried to activate it in the U12+ and the U11. I have both and travel to the US, so if either is one of the models that can use it, it would be quite helpful, however, it would be nice to at least try first and see what happens.
You can't do it it's impossible
teh_pwnrer said:
You can't do it it's impossible
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I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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So are you not getting any 4G LTE? If so I'm not sure why. I get 4G LTE almost everywhere I go.
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Nope not getting it at all
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masucu said:
I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
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Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
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Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
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Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
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Thing is they are waiting for all the tools atm, I mean they don't yet have all the new kits for it, it should be arriving, and the engineer is actually a certified person being one that works in a certified HTC service, so once we get the entire .... kit, he will start working on it toghther with the software engineer and so on, hope that it will all sort out, i did get another phone in the mean time as well, but as i said i will be reporting back.
Thank
subhumanderelict said:
That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
masucu said:
Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
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Did you succeed?
MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you succeed?
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I would like to know also...
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I would like to know also...
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So would I...I'm also from Brazil and brought the Verizon model because it is said to support the 2600 frequency. So frustrating
Hi, I'm going to pick up an American Nexus 5 in 2 weeks which I'm going to use in Germany.
Unfortunately, I just found out that the American N5 does not support LTE Bands 3,7 and 20, which are necessary to get LTE in Europe.
Now my question is, is it possible to enable those needed bands with a custom radio or is this a hardware issue?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, I pretty much don't know anything about that stuff.
Thanks in advance for your help everyone.
Edit: I looked through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/lte-bands-nexus-5-t2502574/
but still couldnt find the answer.
hardware thing.
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hardware thing.
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This.
Although they technically have the same radio hardware, the radio unit is "factory programmed" differently. We don't know if it is a physical configuration or a firmware one as there is no documentation about this... Which means even if it is firmware, we wouldn't be able to change it. Essentially, physically changing the Radio hardware which is part of the SoC, which is part of the Motherboard is the only way.
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Alright thanks a lot. I guess I'll have to live without LTE for now.
Hello,
I haven't posted here in quite some time, but I picked up the Mi Mix 2s (Fantastic device), and the only thing that's missing to make this perfect for me, is the inclusion of Band 71 (600MHz). I've seen on multiple posts about Qualcomm phones having bands unlocked using QDXM and QPST tools. In other tutorials I see that they use an app to calculate the proper NV values, but I can't seem to find one that goes beyond Band 44. Does anyone know of a manual way to calculate this value, or another tool I could use?
Thank you much,
Blimey
sublimewulf said:
Hello,
I haven't posted here in quite some time, but I picked up the Mi Mix 2s (Fantastic device), and the only thing that's missing to make this perfect for me, is the inclusion of Band 71 (600MHz). I've seen on multiple posts about Qualcomm phones having bands unlocked using QDXM and QPST tools. In other tutorials I see that they use an app to calculate the proper NV values, but I can't seem to find one that goes beyond Band 44. Does anyone know of a manual way to calculate this value, or another tool I could use?
Thank you much,
Blimey
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What app are you using to check current supported bands?
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What app are you using to check current supported bands?
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I've used NV calculator and LTE Band Calculator on the Play Store.
I found this video. I can't test it until 2 weeks from now as I just started unlocking process. If you test, please let me know if it works.
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I found this video. I can't test it until 2 weeks from now as I just started unlocking process. If you test, please let me know if it works.
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By taping Lock bands then LTE all of them are checked, is that how it's supposed to be ?
I also don't have the option LTE Band Append...
pi4a7a said:
By taping Lock bands then LTE all of them are checked, is that how it's supposed to be ?
I also don't have the option LTE Band Append...
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I checked mine on my other rooted device. It looks like they removed the LTE Band Append option sometime between January and now. I sent the dev an email asking for more about this, I'll keep you posted.
If it turns out to be a paid feature, I think the price gouging is ridiculously too high. It's $50/week! But we'll see.
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I checked mine on my other rooted device. It looks like they removed the LTE Band Append option sometime between January and now. I sent the dev an email asking for more about this, I'll keep you posted.
If it turns out to be a paid feature, I think the price gouging is ridiculously too high. It's $50/week! But we'll see.
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This was their response. I guess we can't use this feature.
HI
This feature is not allowed to access since it’s not safe to mobile phones. Please understand…
Regards
Is there any way to verify or force Band 71 to test that it works on a T-Mo Pixel 3? Thanks!
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...confirm-band-12-71-support-wireless-charging/
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...confirm-band-12-71-support-wireless-charging/
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Thank you, but I guess I was specifically referring more to what could be done with the Pixel 3 in my hand to confirm that I can use Band 71 and verify it on the device myself.
Thanks
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Thank you, but I guess I was specifically referring more to what could be done with the Pixel 3 in my hand to confirm that I can use Band 71 and verify it on the device myself.
Thanks
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Try the app LTE Discovery. It will tell you what band your on so you'll know if you come across it. Not sure if it will list every band available to you.. Which sounds like what you want to know.
Ok. I will check it out. Thanks!
peridoc said:
Thank you, but I guess I was specifically referring more to what could be done with the Pixel 3 in my hand to confirm that I can use Band 71 and verify it on the device myself.
Thanks
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I've been wondering the same thing and haven't found an app that shows it yet. I'm in an area that has band 71 and I haven't noticed a difference in coverage since moving from a Nexus 5X. Let me know if you find anything that works.
I've been worndering this as well... I use signal spy and have yet to connect to band 71. My coverage has not improved and i still lose signal at the usual deadspots in my town...
Can anyone verify that they have been able to connect to band 71 with their Pixel 3? I haven't seen anyone say that been able to connect...
It should. It supports it
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In case anyone is still wondering...
I don't see 5G icon. But we got LTE+ on TMobile (usa) (VoLTE pre activated)
Download speed is fantastic. Upload is not
avetny said:
I don't see 5G icon. But we got LTE+ on TMobile (usa) (VoLTE pre activated)
Download speed is fantastic. Upload is not
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has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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It is at the standard of the H.W not the S.W.
The same questions were asked of the 10 ultra. Some said hard, some software but no one posted any success in opening more bands.
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has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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Reasonable question man, those replies suck. It has the same modem as the iPhone 13, it's a Snapdragon X65 5G so technically you should be able to. If not in NV, you could in software programming tool of Qualcomm, might have to be the newest software though. If you could identify the modem chip number in a teardown video possibly we could find the product model number and see if it's a hardware limited or base chip limited by firmware.
That makes sense. Back in the day, I had a Zuk Z2 Pro and it worked but haven't had a phone with a snapdragon since.
Thanks Jdorman12 for replying with actual words, not a single emoji
If I end up getting a 12S, I will give it a try