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[Q] Screen Protector - Yay or Nay

Will you be using any screen protectors? I got 2 for free so will try it, will be tricky with air bubbles and dust.

ermacwins said:
Will you be using any screen protectors? I got 2 for free so will try it, will be tricky with air bubbles and dust.
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The Mi4C uses Concore glass which is a product of Gorilla Glass but has the LCD and Digitizer fused together. That means if the glass even slightly cracks you'll have to replace the entire LCD/Digitizer assembly. Even though the Mi4C has a good repairability score, it might be difficult or expensive to get parts as this a phone for the Chinese market only. Using some form of screen protection is essential.
PS: Just google a few guides on how to apply a screen protector properly, I've done so many times without any dust or bubbles creeping in.

xdadevet said:
The Mi4C uses Concore glass which is a product of Gorilla Glass but has the LCD and Digitizer fused together. That means if the glass even slightly cracks you'll have to replace the entire LCD/Digitizer assembly. Even though the Mi4C has a good repairability score, it might be difficult or expensive to get parts as this a phone for the Chinese market only. Using some form of screen protection is essential.
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Thanks, I'll definitely use one

Make sure to get the tempered glass variety, as the plastic-based ones are often grippy (making swipes more difficult as your finger kind of sticks to the screen) and more reflective (more difficult to see in the sun), as well as less transparent (screen seems dimmer, and sometimes has artifacts). Tempered glass screen protectors are more expensive than the plastic-based ones and sell for about $5. That said, I've seen suppliers offering the display now, they sell for about $60.
http://www.vopmart.com/pa1013245.html

Ye I have a tempered glass one, always used a plastic on my old phones, which is much slimmer but as you say, you can feel the difference :good:

I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?

I applied the standard screen protector that came for free and have one bubble but its on the bezel so I can live with that. Only problem is it attracts a lot of fingerprints

jauling said:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
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Yep, I confirm. No or poor oleophobic coating, it is a real fingerprint magnet
I don't use a screen protector, not even the free platic one that came with the phone... just don't like them.

jauling said:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
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Nillkin have a tempered glass screen protector for the Mi4i/4c, called NILLKIN Amazing H. I've heard they're one of the better ones, since Nillkin is also a big brand when it comes to cases and screen protectors.
You can find it on AliExpress for 7-10 dollar. It's probably available at other places as well.

I see nillkin also has an Amazing H+ version.. www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=5584&page=1

jauling said:
I see nillkin also has an Amazing H+ version.. www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=5584&page=1
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Hm, yea. You know the difference between H and H+?

Flaxe said:
Hm, yea. You know the difference between H and H+?
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Just comparing the product pages, The H is 0.33m and H+ is 0.3mm. H+ looks to have 2.5D edging craft, whatever that is.

I only use nillkin for all my phones. They fit great and applying them is very easy, because they pack a lot of extras in the box (like wet and dry wipes to clean your screen, tape to remove dust particles, microfibre cloth...). I always need just about 2 minutes to apply them without any bubbles or dust. If there is a dust particle left after applying, just lift the screen protector carefully and use the tape to remove the dust

i found that Edge Control goes crazy when the phone is connected to the PSU and charging. After some minutes of using the Edge controls suddenly do the "back" function all over again. This happens when i just hold the phone in the left hand (not tapping with the fingers - just holding it on both sides in one hand). Can you confirm this? I am using latest sMIUI 5.11.5 (clean installed). If i unplug the typ c connector - all goes back to normal within one minute.

Tempered glass protectors

Anyone removed one? How easy it is? Do you end up with glass splinters all over the place?

Lol...

WibblyW said:
Anyone removed one? How easy it is? Do you end up with glass splinters all over the place?
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There are multiple layers in a good tempered glass. If you accidentally remove the layer between the top layer and the glass layer adn the glass is broken it can shatter into micro fragments, though that is less likely to happen.
Mostly you will just remove the tempered glass altogether. Mind you that you cant reapply it properly again(like a screen guard).

dhruvwali said:
There are multiple layers in a good tempered glass. If you accidentally remove the layer between the top layer and the glass layer adn the glass is broken it can shatter into micro fragments, though that is less likely to happen.
Mostly you will just remove the tempered glass altogether. Mind you that you cant reapply it properly again(like a screen guard).
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Think I'll give them a miss

WibblyW said:
Think I'll give them a miss
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Before you decide this, check this out -
http://gadgetstouse.com/gadget-tech/why-tempered-glass-is-better/25427

dhruvwali said:
Before you decide this, check this out -
http://gadgetstouse.com/gadget-tech/why-tempered-glass-is-better/25427
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Thanks. It's the removal side of things I don't like the sound of. A benefit of a protector is that it's 'sacrificial'. Sooner or later it will get scratched or damaged and need replacing...

I am facing problems with tempered glass, the shop vendor applied the glass and it was not properly fitted I also complained him for the same, he told the screen of your phone is little curved hence it will not properly fit on ur phone, I doubt his contention, is anyone facing same issue or shall i try any other glass....

Ani0o7 said:
I am facing problems with tempered glass, the shop vendor applied the glass and it was not properly fitted I also complained him for the same, he told the screen of your phone is little curved hence it will not properly fit on ur phone, I doubt his contention, is anyone facing same issue or shall i try any other glass....
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in india everyone is facing this issue

Ani0o7 said:
I am facing problems with tempered glass, the shop vendor applied the glass and it was not properly fitted I also complained him for the same, he told the screen of your phone is little curved hence it will not properly fit on ur phone, I doubt his contention, is anyone facing same issue or shall i try any other glass....
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I already tried three tempered glass from different manufacturers. But all have the same problem. Its doesnt covers the whole screen. And the display looks weird when i watch videos because of improper glass placed on my screen. The shopkeeper gave me the same reason as you got. So i think we will have to wait for proper tempered glass.
Our Moto X Play comes with a Corning Gorilla Glass 3. So i don't think that there's a need for a glass protector. As we apply it just for the peace of our mind. But actually there's no need for it.
Here is the official link for Gorilla Glass 3 http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/en/glass-types/gorilla-glass-3-with-ndr
Have a look at their testing video for gorilla glass 3. You will be surprised by the results.:laugh::good:
P.S. - I HAVE NO TEMPERED GLASS INSTALLED ON MY MOTO X PLAY :silly:

zuppysurja said:
Our Moto X Play comes with a Corning Gorilla Glass 3. So i don't think that there's a need for a glass protector. As we apply it just for the peace of our mind. But actually there's no need for it.
P.S. - I HAVE NO TEMPERED GLASS INSTALLED ON MY MOTO X PLAY :silly:
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Even though we have gorillaglass 3 it's still always always always better to protect the screen some extra.
If you accidentally drop it or put it in your pocket with keys you can scratch your screen gorillaglass or not..

Ani0o7 said:
I am facing problems with tempered glass, the shop vendor applied the glass and it was not properly fitted I also complained him for the same, he told the screen of your phone is little curved hence it will not properly fit on ur phone, I doubt his contention, is anyone facing same issue or shall i try any other glass....
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I'm afraid he is telling the turth, curved edge won't be fitted properly, there is always a halo exsit, yet you can still try some other brands with smaller size to avoid halo.

Ohh my poor MXP waiting for proper tempered glass if anyone got the glass please inform the same....and thanks for info....

Try the TUDIA Premium Quality HD Ultra Clear Tempered Glass. Tempered glass with rounded edges exclusively for Motorola Moto X Play.

Ani0o7 said:
I am facing problems with tempered glass, the shop vendor applied the glass and it was not properly fitted I also complained him for the same, he told the screen of your phone is little curved hence it will not properly fit on ur phone, I doubt his contention, is anyone facing same issue or shall i try any other glass....
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In case you don't like the fact that the glass protector doesn't fit well, or that it easily breaks or feels sharp to the touch at the edges, there is an alternative.
You can use one of those soft screen protectors that use the same material as the protection of helicopter blades.
These are soft enough to bend themselves over any curves of your phone and provide excellent protection.
They absorb quite some impact or at least disperse it because they are soft and they are claimed to also 'heal' themselves if the scratch is light.
The feeling is completely different in comparison to glass or hard/sturdy plastic protectors, but I like it.
I think skinomi has one for the moto x play, znitro had the same style soft protection but apparently not yet for this model.

Ralse said:
In case you don't like the fact that the glass protector doesn't fit well, or that it easily breaks or feels sharp to the touch at the edges, there is an alternative
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The feeling is completely different in comparison to glass or hard/sturdy plastic protectors, but I like it.
I think skinomi has one for the moto x play, znitro had the same style soft protection but apparently not yet for this model.
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Yes, they are my protector of choice at the moment. Also available here
http://www.xtremeguard.com/Motorola-Moto-X-Play-Screen-Protector-p/moto_x_play_screen_protector.htm (not the 'dry' one). And don't bother with the 'full body kit' as the Moto X Play's rubbery back is such that the back protector doesn't stick well.
Use Coupon Code Fall75 at checkout: get 75% Off. Also free delivery (US). They always have large % off promo codes.

Excellent suggestion, they are cheaper than any I have seen so far for that particular type of protection.
The full body doesn't work very properly for any model, it just comes loose after a while.
You need the raised edges of the phone around the screen to protect the protector's edges.
Always keep in mind that these things are stretchable and they can jump up a bit on the edge after some months.
So you need to install them micrometer perfect.

They worked fine, front and back, for my Nexus 4. I replaced them every few months, but they're cheap enough to be able to do that

i already have a few minor scratches on the display, i dont think gorilla glass is good in any way

rober788 said:
i already have a few minor scratches on the display, i dont think gorilla glass is good in any way
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Are we sure this is gorillaglass3?
After 2 weeks of careful use and only sticking the phone in my blazer pocket without anything else I also have some microscratches.
My Droid1 didn't scratch this fast at all with less careful use.
Very anxious to receive my screen protectors....

WibblyW said:
Yes, they are my protector of choice at the moment. Also available here
http://www.xtremeguard.com/Motorola-Moto-X-Play-Screen-Protector-p/moto_x_play_screen_protector.htm (not the 'dry' one). And don't bother with the 'full body kit' as the Moto X Play's rubbery back is such that the back protector doesn't stick well.
Use Coupon Code Fall75 at checkout: get 75% Off. Also free delivery (US). They always have large % off promo codes.
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Is it available in India

[Q] Using Cerium oxide or Toothpaste to fix small scratches?

My friend's S8+ (thankfully not mine) was placed face down on a table.
Unfortunately, she slid the phone a bit causing tiny scratches to appear on the screen.
I've read online that using toothpaste or cerium oxide would work to remove scratches.
Can anyone confirm ?
I didn't think Gorilla Glass 5 would scratch so easily.
The scratches are really small, and not deep at all, but kind of disappointing to hear that it scratched.
Any one know any remedies that might work to remove faint scratches?

Dont do it. Ive tried it in the past and it doesn't work. There are a few problems. Firstly it can make the glass hot, and damage the screen, secondly, if you do manage to polish it down it will leave the glass feeling very rough and extremely grippy, and no aftermarket coating that you can apply change that. Its not a nice feeling at all.
It seems like Gorilla glass doesnt respond to being polished like normal glass does.
The best thing to do is put a screen protector on, with luck it will 'fill' the scratch and make it invisible.

Thank you for the extremely quick response!
I was thinking the same thing.
I'll let her know
ChrisM75 said:
Dont do it. Ive tried it in the past and it doesn't work. There are a few problems. Firstly it can make the glass hot, and damage the screen, secondly, if you do manage to polish it down it will leave the glass feeling very rough and extremely grippy, and no aftermarket coating that you can apply change that. Its not a nice feeling at all.
It seems like Gorilla glass doesnt respond to being polished like normal glass does.
The best thing to do is put a screen protector on, with luck it will 'fill' the scratch and make it invisible.
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Zer0_ said:
My friend's S8+ (thankfully not mine) was placed face down on a table.
Unfortunately, she slid the phone a bit causing tiny scratches to appear on the screen.
I've read online that using toothpaste or cerium oxide would work to remove scratches.
Can anyone confirm ?
I didn't think Gorilla Glass 5 would scratch so easily.
The scratches are really small, and not deep at all, but kind of disappointing to hear that it scratched.
Any one know any remedies that might work to remove faint scratches?
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Your best bet is to apply a plastic screen protector, they usually hide the micro scratches surprisingly well!

cantenna said:
Your best bet is to apply a plastic screen protector, they usually hide the micro scratches surprisingly well!
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What about tempered glasses or wet install screen protectors ?

don't think so, they dont actually make contact with the glass like plastic does and that's when the magic happens.
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Gorilla glass has a p roduct that fills the scratches to repair them. It polishes out yo look perfect. Thats what I'd recommend.

Zer0_ said:
My friend's S8+ (thankfully not mine) was placed face down on a table.
Unfortunately, she slid the phone a bit causing tiny scratches to appear on the screen.
I've read online that using toothpaste or cerium oxide would work to remove scratches.
Can anyone confirm ?
I didn't think Gorilla Glass 5 would scratch so easily.
The scratches are really small, and not deep at all, but kind of disappointing to hear that it scratched.
Any one know any remedies that might work to remove faint scratches?
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Gorilla glass 5 is not as hard as 4. Which supposedly gives it a better impact resistance. But also makes it more prone to scratches

Worth taking off the protective covers?

Hi there,
my Nex S Global ROM was shipped with protective plastic covers glued to the front and the back of the phone.
They feel a bit plasticky and I was thinking about taking them off. Do you think it's worth it?
How easy is it to get scratches on the back and on the screen after doing so?
Do the back and the screen also feel as plasticky as the covers?
Thanks
V

thewildwind said:
Hi there,
my Nex S Global ROM was shipped with protective plastic covers glued to the front and the back of the phone.
They feel a bit plasticky and I was thinking about taking them off. Do you think it's worth it?
How easy is it to get scratches on the back and on the screen after doing so?
Do the back and the screen also feel as plasticky as the covers?
Thanks
V
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I removed the front protector and kept the back one. I stopped using screen protectors about 4 years ago and have never had a scratch with Gorilla Glass. I kept the back one on for no particular reason because it's always in a case anyway.

I'd keep it on until I got some tempered glass or some kind of protection.
I never got scratches on any of my previous phones, but the Nex S got some small deep scratches within a week of me taking off the plastic. I don't think they use gorilla glass. Definitively something softer as the phone has only been in my jean and coat pockets.

It definitely is not gorilla glass as mine got cracked In top left and bottom right corners when it fell down from pocket while jogging

riceknight said:
I'd keep it on until I got some tempered glass or some kind of protection.
I never got scratches on any of my previous phones, but the Nex S got some small deep scratches within a week of me taking off the plastic. I don't think they use gorilla glass. Definitively something softer as the phone has only been in my jean and coat pockets.
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It is Gorilla Glass but I'm not sure which version. I've had no scratches in the four months I've owned it and it stays in my front pocket like yours.
edges said:
It definitely is not gorilla glass as mine got cracked In top left and bottom right corners when it fell down from pocket while jogging
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Gorilla glass protects from scratches and not drops. Impact will crack almost all glass.

https://www.corning.com/gorillaglass/worldwide/en/products-with-gorilla-glass/smartphones/vivo/nex.html

The back is definitely softer, lots of small scratches, even though I use a case.
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ranny9901 said:
The back is definitely softer, lots of small scratches, even though I use a case.
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It probably is but it's also the part where the phone rests 99% of the time.

I removed the front protector about 2 months ago still don't see any scratches

I've already bought the same protector for the back in aliexpress for 1dolar ou something like that, but it's exactly the same, and I wanted a 9H protector for the back, not a pelicule...
Has anyone ever tough/seen this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/accessories/ceramic-paint-coating-nex-s-t3901551

Accessories Does the X3 Pro need a tempered glass?

I kinda want to get mine removed cuz the fit is weird (sides are not fully covered) and just use it as it is. Is it fine or will it get easily scratched?

Superbia_ said:
I kinda want to get mine removed cuz the fit is weird (sides are not fully covered) and just use it as it is. Is it fine or will it get easily scratched?
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gorilla glass is an extremely shatter/scratch resistant glass.... I've had htc e8, redmi 5+ fell from at least 1m, they were still good, for my xiaomi phones i usually use the included case for added protection.... you can also use flip cases which will protect the whole phone... there are very nice flip/wallet cases for pocox3...
anyway...here's a picture of my screen after 4-5 months of usage without any screen protector.. no scratches yet, ignore the dust... your experience may vary xD

Anyone else using phone without protection glass, is it smooth without it ?

Factory protection is plastic, if I remember correctly. It gives pretty bad feel. Uncovered screen is smooth and nice to touch.

I just use the ringke fusionx camo case, no tempered glass. Tempered glass is kind of gimmicky, I never would use a cheapo $2 to $5 screen protection. As I paid for gorilla glass 6 and also love it's clarity and feel which no cheap tempered glass can provide me. Anyways, gorilla glass is quite tough and I use my phone carefully like a gentleman! I even use the ringke camp case because I like its look, and also it is military grade certified. Moreover, we use our phone for 2-5years only, after that is just a sandwich! So, why not use it in its true glory!

is up to personal preference to get protector or not
i use hydrogel protector, i have a bulky casing already so yea...

Thanks for the input, I removed my tempered glass now and it looks and feels better. Another question is how do you guys clean your screen? Do you guys use alcohol/water?

Never use alcohol to clean phone lcd screens, it can damage oleophobic coating.
And yes i agree the factory screen protector that comes with this phone is utter trash, remove it ASAP. Phone feels much better without it, both in terms of display quality and just general touch feel. If this is really Gorilla Glass then you shouldn't worry too much about scratching it. (i wouldn't trust Xiaomi on anything though lol)

k3lcior said:
Never use alcohol to clean phone lcd screens, it can damage oleophobic coating.
And yes i agree the factory screen protector that comes with this phone is utter trash, remove it ASAP. Phone feels much better without it, both in terms of display quality and just general touch feel. If this is really Gorilla Glass then you shouldn't worry too much about scratching it. (i wouldn't trust Xiaomi on anything though lol)
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I see, so just water then?

I also do not use protective glass. I downloaded the foil right after I bought the phone. I have only the case on.

Superbia_ said:
Thanks for the input, I removed my tempered glass now and it looks and feels better. Another question is how do you guys clean your screen? Do you guys use alcohol/water?
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I use semen... Just kidding
Rubbing with a damp microfiber cloth works fine for me and renders the screen shining!

i_sagnik said:
I use semen... Just kidding
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Dude, I am glad you are not a comedian. Please keep replies like these to yourself. You are making my breakfast go in reverse.
No wonder forum etiquette went to **** in here...

Tomo123 said:
Dude, I am glad you are not a comedian. Please keep replies like these to yourself. You are making my breakfast go in reverse.
No wonder forum etiquette went to **** in here...
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Thank god it doesn't make your semen go in reverse.

And it does yours? Good for you!
Now, let's get bact to the topic at hand, or you feel too childish to let this one go?
Also, to be on track... yes, every phone should have a tempered glass protection. Why? Well you can scratch any type of glass, be it with keys, a knife or any other piece of one's EDC carry stuff. I'd rather tempered glass gets scratched, instead of phone screen. Common sense, really. Using something that costs 2$ to protect something costing near 300$...

the question is absurd: Of course every mobile that is in use needs a display protection ...

I dont use one (and yes i removed the factory protection aswell) for over a year now and there isnt a one scratch on a screen. And mind you i use it mostly for road bike navigation outdoors - public roads, woods, mud and so on it's not just laying on a desk. You have top notch Gorilla Glass protection and it works, why replace it with cheap poor quality $2 piece of plastic with poor feel which also distorts the screen colors and possibly touch inputs?
But whatever floats your boat.

For me, the only advantage of a screen protector is that I can replace it within a few minutes once the oleophobic coating is gone. I find it disgusting to constantly have a greasy film on the glass. I use book cases with every phone, so scratching the display can actually be almost ruled out

Same here: flip case with screen protector.... i don´t use cheap quality rather the opposite and - thats most interesting for me - mat protection without refections... positive side effect: if you want to sell the device later, it has no scratches if you had been careful For me it would be horrible if there was a scratch on the screen...