Smartphone components and manufacturing - General Questions and Answers

MKBHD said cheap phones are getting better and good phones are getting cheaper.
I have been already wondering how chinese phones are so cheap.
Not to mention reputed company like Nokia and Motorola are entering this midrange and low-end killar spec game.
I guess they keep less profit than others.
Are phone processor sold like Intel and AMD processor?
I heard sd450 cost $10.5 but where they are sold .
Let say components of a cheap phone :
How much each of this component will cost ?
Qualcomm Snapdragon 429
16GB EMMC 5.1
2GB LPDDR3 800mhz
OV13855-GA5A-2A 1.12um camera module
OV08856 1.12um 8mp camera module
5.7 INCH IPS LCD 720P 18:9
5 Magnet Transducer type speaker
3500MAH lithium battery.
How much a metallic casing and dragon tail glass/ gorilla glass cost actually?
How PCB are made and how complex they are for a smartphone?
What about XDA making its own phone with sd855 and complete custom XDA ROM ?
These are all wondering Inside my head . Anyway I hope I gonna have some answers.
I am waiting for everyone's opinion .

Somehow MKBHD is right

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[Q] Which phone to upgrade from HTC Desire?

I kinda want some with better now and I've found four phones that I can possibly upgrade to:
1. Samsung Galaxy S (i9000)
The Super Amoled and Hummingbird are the selling points. Cheap feeling plasticky body though and no camera flash. 4" is a good size. About USD 650 / HKD 5000
2. HTC Desire HD
Massive beast with fast fast hardware. I believe this is the fastest phone released to date with the second gen snapdragon and 768 mb of ram. 8mp camera with flash. About USD 675 / HKD 5200
3. Dell Venue
Just released in Hong Kong - first country in the world to have it...guess where I live
1GHz Snapdragon, 512mb ram, 8MP with flash, plastic body with aluminum edges, 4.1" Very good price for the spec....I know judging a product by the brand isnt very good, but Dell isnt a phone brand...dunno if they are good. About USD 514 / HKD 3999
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/dell-venue-launched-in-hong-kong-we-go-hands-on/
4. Google Nexus S
Not out yet in Hong Kong...
Similar to Galaxy but with a better -looking- body. Exact rom version doesnt really matter to me as long it has the ability to flash a new rom, and since the Galaxy has 2.3 builds and they will be usable by the time the Nexus is released, it isnt really a selling point.
On the plus side, you can get virtually ANY phone contract-less including all of the above and more and also the fourth version of the unmentionable device.
Out of those Nexus S but I would wait until new year and go for a dual core phone instead. That way you are ay least investing in some better technology.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Basic Bear by Techdy (Cheap & Powerful)

A random China company called Techdy made a "budget" iPhone which was SAID to be exactly what Apple's Budget iPhone would look like some time in the year (2013) ... Problem is, the specs stated there like an Qualcomm® Snapdragon 800 processor, 2GB of RAM and even, an IPS Backlit display all costing at $199, is too hard to believe to me.. Any ideas whether i shld buy this device? I'm scared that it suddenly got an MTK6589 processor in it -.-"
Part of me really wants this device lol, looks pretty nice.

Chinese phones & their influence

Hi everyone
I'm new to the mobile phone scene but after a bit of research on deciding which phones to invest in I've noticed something; Chinese phones (not easily available in Western countries) have better specs and prices compared with the phones we have from brands like Samsung, Apple, HTC, Sony etc.
I'm talking about Vivo phones, Xiaomi etc. These phones routinely have 16mp cameras with OIS, large 2.0 (or even bigger) sensors, full HD or QHD 5 to 6" screens, 2 to 3GB of RAM, very large front facing cameras (5 to 8mp with flash, 1080P recording), Snapdragon 805 chips and batteries 3500mh+. All this in bodies thinner than 7mm (in some cases, the low5mm range). Many have aluminium chassis too.
Im wondering why we still see phones from Samsung, HTC, Apple and even the Nexus 6 (which is supposed to be absolutely premium in specs & quality) selling for such high prices but with specs lower than the Chinese phones. Surly Samsung & these other brands can release a phone, keep their prices the same but match or exceed the specs of these Chinese phones.
Why does the Galaxy S5 have a comparably low front facing camera, smaller battery and is thicker than these Chinese phones? Or the Nexus 6 - why is the FF camera smaller, why is the rear camera smaller, why does it have a smaller battery and why is it so much thicker? Surly these phones could match the specs of the Chinese phones.
Example: The upcoming VIVO PD1305 rumoured specs (below) should best (or at least match) the Nexus 6 in every respect. Thinner, same chipset, same amount of RAM, better front and rear cameras, stereo speakers, NFC, larger battery etc. Why couldn't Google have these specs in the Nexus 6 and sell it at the current price? The VIVO is expected to be cheaper by $100+. The specs are leaked; previous VIVO leaked specs matched very closely to the final product and there is strong evidence to support that this new VIVO phone's specs will match to the leaked specs as all the technology has been around for a short while now.
Basically what I'm trying to establish is why the Western market is so full of overpriced phones which can't complete on every front with cheaper Chinese phones? Will Samsung etc actually match or best these Chinese phones in terms of specs?
Specs:
6-inch IPS display with 2560×1440 resolution and 490ppi
5.68mm (0.22") thin
162g (5.71 ounces) weight
Snapdragon 805 processor with 3GB of RAM
32GB of internal storage with a microSD card slot that goes up to 128GB
13MP rear camera with optical image stabilization (OIS) and dual-LED flash, 8MP front camera with 88-degree wide view lens
Dedicated ES9018 and OPA2604 audio chips
NFC
LTE Radio support (confirmed at some sources; still in debate as it is useless in China)
Wireless charging
Basic water resistance
Heart rate monitor and a fingerprint trace the source function
3500mAh battery
NOTE: Before anyone says it - that most Chinese phones don't support LTE networks - from some reading there is talk that the latest and upcoming Chinese manufacturers are including support for LTE networks as their market expands. So, they are covering ground fast and innovating far faster than any of the phones we see in our Western markets.
In my opinion the specs for the latest Chinese phones (especially for the VIVO listed) put the Nexus 6 and its rivals to shame. A bit sad.
The problem with these chinese phones is, that you hardly have any warranty.
[email protected] said:
The problem with these chinese phones is, that you hardly have any warranty.
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Who needs a warranty for a hundred dollar thing...?
Never thought about this question, but now i am really thinking that it's a great idea to buy Chinese phones!
i have had a friend that bought a phone, he was using it for two months until i told him that it is a Chinese device.......
Newyork! said:
Who needs a warranty for a hundred dollar thing...?
Never thought about this question, but now i am really thinking that it's a great idea to buy Chinese phones!
i have had a friend that bought a phone, he was using it for two months until i told him that it is a Chinese device.......
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Okay, maybe you are right, but you have hardly any support and if its an chinese phone who hardly anyone has, you can be sure you will not get any updates.
[email protected] said:
Okay, maybe you are right, but you have hardly any support and if its an chinese phone who hardly anyone has, you can be sure you will not get any updates.
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When i buy a old Motorola phone i also don't have any support or updates....
For 100 dollars or lower it pays!
Newyork! said:
When i buy a old Motorola phone i also don't have any support or updates....
For 100 dollars or lower it pays!
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Ok you are right and if you are lucky and buy a chinese phone with an large userbase it pays twice because you get support by the community around that phone

The UHANS S1 has 1.3mm bezels, Android 6.0, and a crystal fingerprint sensor!

http://www.mobiletechasia.com/?p=4763
UHANS is a relatively unknown company, even in the Chinese phone market. Their most popular phone was the UHANS S100, which was a leather backed phone that looked a lot like Vertu phones.
The UHANS S1 looks like their entry into the mainstream, with some very decent specs, and the phone itself looks extremely nice and thin. Power wise it shouldn’t be lacking, but the one thing I’m concerned about is battery life, because the phone is only 6.8mm thick and has small bezels, they could only fit a 2200mAh battery in there, so I’m hopeful that they did some battery magic to up the screen on time.
Gizchina also reported that the camera has Fotonation technology that basically enhances and corrects pictures of people to enhance their pictures, I believe it’s really similar to beautify mode, but probably more in depth.
No price has been announced yet. Follow this thread for more updates.
Specs:
5.0” 1280x720 2.5D Arc display
MTK6753 Octacore Processor
3GB RAM, 16GB ROM
Android 6.0 Marshmallow Freeme OS
13MP/5MP Camera with Fotonation technology
Fingerprint sensor
2200mAh Battery
6.8mm thick
Estimated 120usd ~ 150usd
Duplicate of UHANS S1 5 inches MT6753 3gb, fingerprint
Thread Closed.

2018 and cant get past old tech? confused by some flagship specs

here it is 2018 now. coming up on 10 years when the htc g1 dream debuted as the worlds 1st smartphone with 192 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM. 2013 saw the S4 with 2GB/16Gb/13mp/2600mah. then in 2015 brilliance came shining through with usb-c; that was 3 years ago. now we do see a lot of phones daring to go with 4gb/64gb usb-c 4000mah dual rear 12mp cameras; but still we see a lot of phones that are supposed to be high end failing to brave the the modern world of usb-c. im not saying entry-level phones aren't a necessity. rather not drop names but gonna to to show examples. im talking about how surprising it is to see the honor 7x not having usb-c. that it took until the S8 for samsung to get a clue to have their flagship don all these really basic flagship requisites. im not a gamer, don't care for the hype of 4k on a 5 inch screen with a battery that powers it for less than a day. instead just really like technology and its advance not hesitation. here's to hoping 2108 is the year manufacturers brave the world of true flagship specs and even mid-range devices taking on the demand customers like me really do not want to see new phones brag of 2gb/16gb usb-b quad core 2000mah 13mp unless its for less than 150 bucks like the blu r1hd for those who don't need or want a high-end device.

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