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I've noticed that the updated camera software applies some kind of post processing even if you have image adjustments set to default with nothing set to +/-. The resulting image looks different from what actually appears on screen at the time of the snap. Can live with this but the big problem I'm having now is with self portraits. I'm having this problem indoors with mediocre lighting, I have not had the opportunity to try this outdoors.
The front camera now appears to have some kind of face recognition (which can't be turned off, have not seen an option for this but it does exist for the rear camera). What happens is after snapping the picture, you'll visually see the screen apply some strange lighting effect - when I review the self portrait the face is lightened and the eyes are darkened to the point that I look like a zombie. Needless to say the image is completely messed up. If you manage to take a self portrait with the camera not locking on to your face with the "visible white box cue" the picture will be snapped as normal like it used to be before the Jelly Bean update. Anyone else having similar probs?
It looks like I'm solo on this particular issue. I happened to also have wifi problems after the OTA update; the connections would drop within minutes. Ended up doing a factory reset which resolved the wifi problems but the front camera is still buggy -- basically once the face recognition white box engages and starts tracking your face the picture will become screwed up. It's possible to get a normal picture by doing something to avoid having the box engage like doing a very close up shot. Either way I'm hoping I can get the front cam working like it used to before this update.
Front facing cam pics are not something I do often, so I just tried it. The effect I see is not quite as horrific as you describe. But the captured shot does seem to have a slight exposure issue. And like you said, the preview looks fine, but the captured shot gives a slight white pallor to my face.
The first couple pics were pretty ghastly, maybe more like the "zombie" effect you described. But I realized the lens was pretty dirty (again, I use the front facing cam very seldomly). I cleaned it off, and the results were much better (just slightly pale, as I mentioned in the above paragraph).
Cleaning the lens seems obvious. Although, maybe some change they made to how the JB camera handles exposure makes it extra sensitive to dirt/dust on the lens.
redpoint73 said:
Front facing cam pics are not something I do often, so I just tried it. The effect I see is not quite as horrific as you describe. But the captured shot does seem to have a slight exposure issue. And like you said, the preview looks fine, but the captured shot gives a slight white pallor to my face.
The first couple pics were pretty ghastly, maybe more like the "zombie" effect you described. But I realized the lens was pretty dirty (again, I use the front facing cam very seldomly). I cleaned it off, and the results were much better (just slightly pale, as I mentioned in the above paragraph).
Cleaning the lens seems obvious. Although, maybe some change they made to how the JB camera handles exposure makes it extra sensitive to dirt/dust on the lens.
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True, cleaning the lens did indeed help. Less of the zombie effect now! I guess the face bleaching helps to hide blemishes
When I start any camera app on my Lumia 1020 the picture is blurry if I'm pointing the camera at anything over 6 inches away or so. When I push the camera button in it attempts to focus. Sometimes it will focus on distant objects the way it should, but most of the time it does not and everything stays blurry.
I can't click any scenery images because it dosent focus .i can click macro/near images without any problem .
ill upload some pics
this are the images which i was able to focus without any problems
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18109293444/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18111242883/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18705586836/in/dateposted-public/
Now see the images below
i tried for minutes to focus , tried manual focus but no success.I cannot click any of these kind of images .
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18109308644/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18545741919/in/dateposted-public/
i couldnt even focus on bike this time
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18731950205/in/dateposted-public/
u can see how blurry is the image
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18111255713/in/dateposted-public/
tried to focus on the car ,didnt happen
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/18731943665/in/dateposted-public/
wanted crystal clear image , and from 1020 i can expect it !
so please tell me why i am not able to focus ? i tried pro cam ,normal cam app and 3rd party cam app no help . i can focus near images but not far images .
Tried factory reset too.no use.
Welcome to the Lumia 1020 Forum first and foremost..
Second, this is actually a hardware problem with the camera unfortunately.
You can focus up close because the camera lens has shifted too far away from the sensor. This allows really close up images, but when it comes to infinity focusing (landscapes and images further than 5 feet) you cannot get autofocus far away and cannot get it to focus to infinity..
Sadly since this is a HARDWARE problem you have to replace the camera on the phone.
Wish I could give you better news than this.
Cheers
mikendawn said:
Welcome to the Lumia 1020 Forum first and foremost..
Second, this is actually a hardware problem with the camera unfortunately.
You can focus up close because the camera lens has shifted too far away from the sensor. This allows really close up images, but when it comes to infinity focusing (landscapes and images further than 5 feet) you cannot get autofocus far away and cannot get it to focus to infinity..
Sadly since this is a HARDWARE problem you have to replace the camera on the phone.
Wish I could give you better news than this.
Cheers
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yes I did gave my phone to Nokia care , they checked and told me that camera is faulty and needs to replaced so I said yes , but later even after changing camera did not solve the problem , so they said PCB -Main board needs to be replaced,so I sold the phone .
I will buy refurbished phone from ebay soon .
Thanks for reply .
Infinity focus problem can be solved by choosing manual focus and then moving the slider till you see the "m" symbol. do not slide into the "infinity" symbol, just before that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lumia-1020/general/focusing-problems-lumia-1020-try-crazy-t3160711
I've opened a thread here describing this problem. Maybe it could help you
I too have same problem with camera... sad to know its a hardware problm... sucks
Greetings guys, ive just bought the Xperia Z5 but for some reason there semms to be a problem with the lens, i am here to ask you if you can confirm this issue with your phone, i took a snapshot of my monitor and ive found out that the middle of the picture is of crispy clear quality, but as soon as i move a little to the left on the bottom part of the screen i find a blurr and if i move even further to the left the blurr is gone.
Is this normal? is there any hidden plastic stickers glued on the camera lens that i should remove?
Please take a minute to look at my pictures to help me understand if im missing something or it is really a defect unit, my version is REV2, android updated to latest firmware and camera settings cleared.
Both 20mp and 8mp pictures have this problem visible, due file size limitation ill only post the 8mp one with red arrows and text showing exactly where the blurr is:
8mp
http://postimg.org/image/xap2uuy6l/full/
EDIT: After the phone swap, the blurry picture is gone, now the image is crystal clear without any problems whatsoever:
http://postimg.org/image/fc6v40yvd/full/
Best regards,
Eugen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/im-doing-tally-z5-series-affected-left-t3242302
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Just have a conversation with Sony Xperia Support center. They would be in better position to answer your queries.
Regards,
Riya Taneja
Xperia support might say "we need to take a look" but i dont want to send it to repair as if its defective i can just go to store and swap for a new one.
Please guys, i beg you to take a moment to relook at the photo, this time i added some arrows explaining the issue to be quicker and easier for you to see what im talking about and compare with yours.
http://postimg.org/image/xap2uuy6l/full/
Its not that the left side is blurred, it starts ok then blurrs then goes ok again.
Sorry, but the test doesn't prove anything. Probably unstable image from screen refresh and being hand-held. Try it with a real image - not a monitor - and set it on holder or tripod of some kind. Also don't zoom in so close... cameras have a minimum focal length. My initial impression is that it's not a problem with the Z5.
this is a flat TFT LCD DVI monitor, refresh rate doesnt work as you think they do on digital monitors with digital connections, only the area needing refreshing is actually refreshed rather than the entire screen like a CRT, and if my hands were shaking it was the entire picture that was going to be blurred and not just a tiny portion of the center picture, i also took several photos and the blurred area is exactly in the same spot no matter where i do it.
I just wanted to know if that blurry spot was normal on all phones but this does not semm to be true so ill have to replace mine today.
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this is a flat TFT LCD DVI monitor, refresh rate doesnt work as you think they do on digital monitors with digital connections, only the area needing refreshing is actually refreshed rather than the entire screen like a CRT, and if my hands were shaking it was the entire picture that was going to be blurred and not just a tiny portion of the center picture, i also took several photos and the blurred area is exactly in the same spot no matter where i do it.
I just wanted to know if that blurry spot was normal on all phones but this does not semm to be true so ill have to replace mine today.
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You need to take a landscape photo with focus mode set to infinty or touch to focus and touch the sky for a proper image to view if your camera lenses are decentered, has micro particles on the sensor lenses and/or lens cover is not 100% flat and clear. Could be any of those reasons, none or a mix. If you haven't dropped your phone or in any way damaged it then and have spots of bluriness then it might be factory faulty, either lenses, cover lens or a mix.
Though by looking at your photo I would doubt the lenses are decentered as it appears as soft spots in random places around focus place and doesn't look like decentered lens(es) as there is no "multi-step" ghosting. I would think the cover lens is warped or have spots, dirt smudging or on the sensor lens. But do try the above first. Remember to put the phone on something stable as you dont want any vibrations for test photos.
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this is a flat TFT LCD DVI monitor, refresh rate doesnt work as you think they do on digital monitors with digital connections, only the area needing refreshing is actually refreshed rather than the entire screen like a CRT, and if my hands were shaking it was the entire picture that was going to be blurred and not just a tiny portion of the center picture, i also took several photos and the blurred area is exactly in the same spot no matter where i do it.
I just wanted to know if that blurry spot was normal on all phones but this does not semm to be true so ill have to replace mine today.
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Sigh... I'm not going to get into an LCD display discussion. Try a real image with text like a book or a piece of paper. Don't get too close while taking the pic. Set the phone on a stable surface and use the self-timer. We're trying to diagnose the camera, not your monitor.
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FYI, why it's not a good idea to use an LCD monitor to test a camera: PWM. Yes, LCDs can cause flicker, banding, distortion. That's not to mention flicker induced by room lighting on the monitor. So in summary, please do not use a monitor to test a camera.
http://www.wired.com/2014/08/wtf-just-happened-my-computer-monitor-looks-awful-on-camera/
I can see the wording of "how powerful" is blur. The word below it of "certain" also blur, as well as below it of "straightened out".
Both edge of left and right is also blur.
But still better you test with others object for example a wording from book/paper not the monitor.
Great news guys! swapped my phone at the store for a new one and here are the new results
http://postimg.org/image/fc6v40yvd/full/
Blurr free, YESS!! im so happy with my new phone now! With the old phone when i got at the store I even snapped a book text instead of a monitor text (taking into account what you guys tought about the monitor) to prove them that it was the lens fault and not just a bad photo and they seen the blurr exactly in the same spot of the camera lens no matter how many photos i took.
I came from samsung galaxy s6 very dissapointed that my phone had isocell instead of the sony imx240, isocell sensor (same of the galaxy s5) has way worse edge blurr than this phone and the details are soft all across the board, the only advantage of the isocell is in low light because of its OIS, but even then the colors are washed out and black is tinted as purple with iso ver 400, noise is visible more with xperia z5 than with isocell but the xperia z5 has much more sharp image and details in daylight come much clearer, overall i like this phone alot more than the galaxy s6.
Thank you all for your time guys, im a happy owner now and i when i get the chance ill do my best to help you with what info i can for the attention paid to my cry for help.
Cheers.
Sigh... i spoke too soon, this new phone has 6 dead pixels, what on earth is going on with Sony?
I guess I'm lucky then, I don't notice any blur in my pictures, or what do you guys think? https://goo.gl/photos/DneNpL8KVQtobykc7
I've been honor 8 since one week and i have found one thing that when even i cover right side lens it capture black image but when ever i cover left side sensor it's take snappy sharp image like it's ideally take . So i think so it's just fake second camera is dummy or any other problem ? please let me know i'm worried for my money
Are the pictures good? If so then don't worry about it.
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From my experience the second camera is mostly used for background blur effect. If you cover the lens, everything is in focus.
It is also used for minor noise reduction. If you take a picture in low light and cover the secondary lens there is a little bit more noise. But you won't really notice it unless you enlarge the image.
well the fact that when you block one lens, the other works is proof that neither is dummy. perhaps the post processing is not that dramatic as you were expecting. try taking low light pics with both and just the normal lens then compare them by zooming.
no difference found
I've tried in low light too but second lens is just a fake . it's don't enhances quality i think so i have to wait for android N update
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well the fact that when you block one lens, the other works is proof that neither is dummy. perhaps the post processing is not that dramatic as you were expecting. try taking low light pics with both and just the normal lens then compare them by zooming.
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I love the pictures the Honor 8 takes when using the Wide Aperture mode. It seems the second camera is essential for creating the blur effect. If you haven't noticed you can go into the Stock Huawei Gallery and adjust the wide aperture pictures after the fact. Even if you took a picture that looked like you focused in on the wrong thing, just go into the Gallery, click on the wide aperture button (only shows up on wide aperture pictures) and select what you wanted to focus on.
Sure enough, without the second camera the wide aperture mode doesn't work properly if at all.
Second lens is for focusing, depth of field, and additional light. As well, when covering the second lens, it persistently gives a warning about not covering the lens while shooting, especially when refocusing. I think this should be enough to disprove your "fake camera" theory.
Hi all,
several days ago I noticed that the camera of my Mate 9 (MHA-L09C432) is not focusing.
Then I saw at this this thread that the camera module could be shifted.
Because the focus is working in properly in b/w mode I gave it a try.
Today I disassembled my phone (which was not easy) and saw that the bottom part of the dual camera module was slipped out of the fixture for 1-2mm.
After correcting this problem, cleaning the lenses and reassembling the phone I am now able to focus on objects in a range of about 1m again. But if the camera is not parallel to the object it is very difficult to focus...
But the main problem is, that i am not able to focus on an object which is more than 1m away... The object is always blurry and when i choose manual focus I am already on the maximum of the focus range...
In b/w mode everything works perfectly fine!
I cant see any impurities on the color-lens...
Does anybody have similar issues? What could be done to solve this problem? Could a new camera module solve this problem?
Thank you for any help in advance!
I fixed this problem by replacing the entire camera module.
I tried several things but only this solved the problem...
I do have the same problem exactly
So you probably have to replace your camera module...
The Mate 9 is not so easy to open up...
htcdesire-hd said:
So you probably have to replace your camera module...
The Mate 9 is not so easy to open up...
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I replaced camera module, and it worked for a few days then the same issue returned. It will focus close up (-+ 1m distance) but far distance 3m to infinity will be out of focus. I can get the camera to refocus correctly (sometimes!) by sharply slapping the phone display face down onto the palm of my hand. It only works face down.
This happens with origin camera lens and replacement lens I installed.
I guess my only solution to have a working color camera on a phone is to buy a new phone that isn't made by Huawei, as a search of Internet suggests it isn't just Mate9 model that has this problem??
palatkik said:
I replaced camera module, and it worked for a few days then the same issue returned. It will focus close up (-+ 1m distance) but far distance 3m to infinity will be out of focus. I can get the camera to refocus correctly (sometimes!) by sharply slapping the phone display face down onto the palm of my hand. It only works face down.
This happens with origin camera lens and replacement lens I installed.
I guess my only solution to have a working color camera on a phone is to buy a new phone that isn't made by Huawei, as a search of Internet suggests it isn't just Mate9 model that has this problem??
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Sounds like your camera is slipping inside the bracket... I revented this problem by pressing the camera module in place and carefully fixing it with hot glue... Don't block the autofocus or the lens with hot glue. Only a very thin layer from the edge of the camera case to the bracket is required.
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Sounds like your camera is slipping inside the bracket... I revented this problem by pressing the camera module in place and carefully fixing it with hot glue... Don't block the autofocus or the lens with hot glue. Only a very thin layer from the edge of the camera case to the bracket is required.
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Thanks for feedback, I will try again to install the camera more securely.
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Sounds like your camera is slipping inside the bracket... I revented this problem by pressing the camera module in place and carefully fixing it with hot glue... Don't block the autofocus or the lens with hot glue. Only a very thin layer from the edge of the camera case to the bracket is required.
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I tried fixing the camera in the 'bracket' as you say - by glueing it down. Its just a space on the board it fits into, so I'm not sure about any bracket. I have now tried it with two camera modules (the original and a replacement I bought). Both cameras give the same unfocused result on anything more than 1-2 m away. Strangely on scenic shots some parts of the shot are in focus whilst most of the scene is out of focus. The front camera and monochrome camera are OK. The aperture option on the color camera doesn't work at all, if I try and edit depth of field after taking photo it has no effect. There's also a setting in the camera app to restore defaults, which has no effect also.