Note 9 and Dex on Sentio Superbook - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Accessories

So, I recently bought a Sentio Superbook to play around with. It is essentially a dumbed-down laptop that connects to your phone via USB-C. Sentio has its own proprietary desktop experience software that runs on Android and then connects to your phone to present the Sentio Desktop on the Superbook via USB-C and DisplayLink. However, I wanted to use Dex as I find the Dex experience much better than the Sentio Desktop (or any other desktop experience software I have tried on Android). Plus i want to run Linux on Dex.
The problem is that I could not find a way to trigger Dex to run on my Note 9 unless it detects an HDMI connection, since that is the only way Dex will launch that i know of. Since the Superbook doesn't have an HDMI-in, only USB-C, Dex wouldn't fire off when connecting to the Superbook.
One night, after a few beers, I wondered if i could trick the Note 9 into thinking that there was an HDMI connection when there really wasn't one available. I already had a USB-C Hub with an HDMI port that i bought on Amazon. So, back to Amazon I went, where I ordered an HDMI Dummy Plug / Headless Display Emulator. These are used typically on headless (no monitor) remote servers, tricking the GPUs into thinking there is an external monitor connected via HDMI. So, i plugged the HDMI Emulator into the HDMI out port on the USB-C hub, then the USB-C hub into the phone, and Dex immediately launched. From there i connected the USB-C hub into the Superbook (via a USB-C to USB-C cable), and Dex was running on the Superbook.
If you look at the picture, you can see the Display Emulator sticking out of the USB-C hub, right at the corner of my phone. Sorry for the crappy picture, I took the photo with an old Nextbit Robin since the Note 9 was being used.

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keredini said:
So, I recently bought a Sentio Superbook to play around with. It is essentially a dumbed-down laptop that connects to your phone via USB-C. Sentio has its own proprietary desktop experience software that runs on Android and then connects to your phone to present the Sentio Desktop on the Superbook via USB-C and DisplayLink. However, I wanted to use Dex as I find the Dex experience much better than the Sentio Desktop (or any other desktop experience software I have tried on Android). Plus i want to run Linux on Dex.
The problem is that I could not find a way to trigger Dex to run on my Note 9 unless it detects an HDMI connection, since that is the only way Dex will launch that i know of. Since the Superbook doesn't have an HDMI-in, only USB-C, Dex wouldn't fire off when connecting to the Superbook.
One night, after a few beers, I wondered if i could trick the Note 9 into thinking that there was an HDMI connection when there really wasn't one available. I already had a USB-C Hub with an HDMI port that i bought on Amazon. So, back to Amazon I went, where I ordered an HDMI Dummy Plug / Headless Display Emulator. These are used typically on headless (no monitor) remote servers, tricking the GPUs into thinking there is an external monitor connected via HDMI. So, i plugged the HDMI Emulator into the HDMI out port on the USB-C hub, then the USB-C hub into the phone, and Dex immediately launched. From there i connected the USB-C hub into the Superbook (via a USB-C to USB-C cable), and Dex was running on the Superbook.
If you look at the picture, you can see the Display Emulator sticking out of the USB-C hub, right at the corner of my phone. Sorry for the crappy picture, I took the photo with an old Nextbit Robin since the Note 9 was being used.
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That looks great, but i still dont understand hpw u connect the SB to the HDMI adapter, can i ask you for more pictures?
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OK i found out about the HDMI dummy plug. I have another question then, do you need to give power to your type C hub?

Cinnarello said:
That looks great, but i still dont understand hpw u connect the SB to the HDMI adapter, can i ask you for more pictures?
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OK i found out about the HDMI dummy plug. I have another question then, do you need to give power to your type C hub?
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See the image for how i have everything setup ... The main USB-C wire from the hub goes to the phone (top right corner of image), and then obviously I put the dummy HDMI plug into the HDMI port. Finally, where the image shows 'DC IN' is actually just another USB-C connection, so I run a USB-C to USB-C wire from here to the USB-C port on the Superbook.
The hub does not require additional power, it didn't need it when i used the hub to connect to a standard HDMI monitor, and it doesn't require it in this configuration either.

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keredini said:
See the image for how i have everything setup ... The main USB-C wire from the hub goes to the phone (top right corner of image), and then obviously I put the dummy HDMI plug into the HDMI port. Finally, where the image shows 'DC IN' is actually just another USB-C connection, so I run a USB-C to USB-C wire from here to the USB-C port on the Superbook.
The hub does not require additional power, it didn't need it when i used the hub to connect to a standard HDMI monitor, and it doesn't require it in this configuration either.
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Ok i managed to do it, while im waiting for the dummy to arrive, i used an HDMI cable connected to a turned off monitor.
My type C hub needs power to function, it does also when i use DEX on monitor, so I had the hub powered on, the type-c connected to Note9, the usb-c to usb-c cable from SB to the hub and it worked. The only trick i had to use is to install and run the Display link presenter app, without that, it doesnt start.

How does it all work? Does it feel responsive? Touchpad works well?
Would love to get more details on the overall usability.

Very responsive
TheSeanTeam said:
How does it all work? Does it feel responsive? Touchpad works well?
Would love to get more details on the overall usability.
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I would say its pretty much as using Dex on a monitor, I use a bluetooth mouse because the trackpad of the superbook is still not very responsive.
For the rest of the usage i can say no lag at all.
Im going to use Dex Max to watch netflix full screen and then i will be set.

Update on the setup
I just finished building this case for the dongle i created, as you can see in the picture, its still an early build but its a start.
Since im not a developer nor a engineer i had to use cables and adapters, and since my type-c hub needs power im giving it power form the usb of the superbook, while the type c get the video into the SB. I will later on create space for the USBs, or at least one of them.
Im open to ideas and/or help and suggestions.

Latest update on SBDX setup
Ok, i have made some changes and some updates on the external setup to have it as much portable as possible.
Pictures here

I've got a 1080p superbook coming this week along with a hub and HDMI dummy plug. I'll report back after I had a play. The whole set up cost about £115. Not including my 512gb Note9 that is!

Cinnarello said:
Ok, i have made some changes and some updates on the external setup to have it as much portable as possible.
Pictures here
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Hi Cinnarello, which hub are you using. I had one that triggered DeX fine but without a PD port I couldn't charge it. I got another that had PD and a USB C but this time (despite being advertised as DeX compatible) it gave me a message "Ensure HDMI is connected properly" and I get no out put. I tried it with different cables and my wife's S9+ but it made no difference.
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keredini said:
See the image for how i have everything setup ... The main USB-C wire from the hub goes to the phone (top right corner of image), and then obviously I put the dummy HDMI plug into the HDMI port. Finally, where the image shows 'DC IN' is actually just another USB-C connection, so I run a USB-C to USB-C wire from here to the USB-C port on the Superbook.
The hub does not require additional power, it didn't need it when i used the hub to connect to a standard HDMI monitor, and it doesn't require it in this configuration either.
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Which hub have you got keredini?

finbaar said:
Hi Cinnarello, which hub are you using. I had one that triggered DeX fine but without a PD port I couldn't charge it. I got another that had PD and a USB C but this time (despite being advertised as DeX compatible) it gave me a message "Ensure HDMI is connected properly" and I get no out put. I tried it with different cables and my wife's S9+ but it made no difference.
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Which hub have you got keredini?
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Hi,
I got this one:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07FRZCLGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Cinnarello said:
Hi,
I got this one:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07FRZCLGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Great, just ordered one. I wonder why that item isn't available in the UK? Luckily I am still a citizen of the EU, at least for the the next couple of weeks, so I could order from amazon.it. Grazie.

Got the dock and connected it all up and everything works. I'm replying on the Superbook! It came just in time as I had to pass my laptop to my son last night as his bust.

I got the same setup, however the touchpad doesn't work at all.
Also keyboard is being a pain. The "l" key keeps firing off randomly.
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Yeah, that. Will need to test if it's my SB that's screwed up or not by running the Sentio App, OR using a USB keyboard.

Item question
Hello Cinnarello,
Can you tell where you bought the item that attaches your smartphone to the Superbook ?
Thanks.
Have a nice day.
Cinnarello said:
Ok, i have made some changes and some updates on the external setup to have it as much portable as possible.
Pictures here
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ad4xda said:
Hello Cinnarello,
Can you tell where you bought the item that attaches your smartphone to the Superbook ?
Thanks.
Have a nice day.
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See the item he links to in post #11. I got the same one and it works great.

Hi
Thx for answer.
I'm not talking about the Hub but about the plastic item located between screen edge and smartphone, plastic item that holds both of them.
Thx. Cheers.

Cinnarello said:
Hi,
I got this one:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07FRZCLGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Grazie! I bought a really small hub that I was happy to find, but only upon arrival did I find out that the usb-c on the hub was only for power. I ordered one like yours now :cyclops:

Just a fair bit of warning about this company:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...er-shipping-75-of-phone-to-laptop-pre-orders/

Connectsolve said:
Hi,
Easier to make one using a Pi-Top V2 and a few components off of Amazon or buy one of these when they are available.
Pi-Top: https://blog.pi-top.com/2018/10/29/turn-your-android-phone-into-a-laptop-with-a-pi-top/
DeX laptop dock: https://twitter.com/allaboutsmartp1/status/1121052594988883968?s=19
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The DeX laptop dock you mention actually is a Sentio Superbook. Somehow his works without using a USB-C dock?

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Moto Z2 Play and the Atrix Lapdock

Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
USB c generally does more. It supports external drives and even charging other devices.
Z2 Play doesn't support video out over USB C.
I looked into this a bit because I also was interested in using my Lapdock. I investigated the possibility of making a mod that would do this, but you'd have to convert between the DSI output from the Moto Mod interface to an HDMI output. Perhaps you could build an interface to use this device from STM: B-LCDAD-HDMI1, or perhaps build a board around something like the ADV7533, but it looks like you have to have a license for HDMI development to buy those. I also tried my Chromebook USB-C dock with my Z2 Play and can confirm that it doesn't seem to work.
In any case, there's not an easy solution, sorry! I would definitely be interested in working on a project like this, but it doesn't look very feasible right now.
This should be very doable. You will first need a Moto Mod Development kit and use the Compute firmware on it. You then need a MyDP to Micro HDMI cable and a microUSB to USB-C OTG cable. You should be able to connect it and have it behave as you want it to behave. To create your own Moto Mod that did that would require assistance from Motorola but you can do a prototype basically as I have told you.
Thanks yall! I have absolutely no idea how to even find a moto mod development kit, yet alone how to use one, so I guess that dream will have to be shelved for a while. Please continue to post if anything changes!
Krella
You can buy the Moto Mod Development Kit here. There are frequently out of stock so buy get it quickly if you want it.
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
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Hey man did you tried it with this adapter?
No, not yet. If you try it, please let me know how it does!
KrellaKrentoshi said:
No, not yet. If you try it, please let me know how it does!
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Would you mind to link me the excatly model of adapter that you have found?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LAD2FIA/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think I may need to build a specialized cable. There is a different adapter, one from best buy someone showed me once that may work without any modification. I will post the link to that cable later
Can you post specs on the lapdock to Pi cable?
KrellaKrentoshi said:
Is there any way to use the Atrix lapdock with the Moto Z2 Play?
I have used my lapdock for several years with my Motorola Droid 4, and even made a Frankencable to use the lapdock with my Raspberry Pi. It is my understanding that the Play uses a different charging port, but while researching the phone today on Amazon I found an adapter that will allow the new phone to use the old charging cables. If I use that adapter, I think it might be possible to make my lapdock talk to the phone, but does the phone have the hard/software needed to talk to the lapdock? Or has my precious lapdock finally been rendered obsolete?
Krella
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I have a MotoZ and Z2 and still can't figure out why moto can't just create a laptop mod where the KDB/mouse is "usb" and the video treated the same as they do with the projector mod. I have 2 lapdocks collecting dust so if I can use them with the Rpi 3 that would be GREAT!
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What I think would really solve this is a mod that goes on the back on the Z and has 5V 3A+ input, an HDMI port, and 1+ usb3 port(S). The USB3 port can accept a std USB hub and then any HDMI cables/adapters can be used. The 5V input would charge the phone, power the mod, and potentially even the USB port(s). Then you can not only use the lapdock but also can use the device as a"media dock" to connect the phone to TV, kdb, mouse, wireless remote via usb, etc. Even just taking any battery mod and just adding wireless charging and any size HDMI out port would work as the phones USB port can be hooked to a commodity USB hub.
In my mind today's phones are fully capable desktop class systems and all that is missing is:
1. Linux/chrome app to act like wine and allow me to run APKs on my desktop/browser
2. APK I install of wine and the equivalent for Linux so wine compatible apps and Linux x apps run on phone.
An alternative to item one above that works too is a chrome/desktop app that may or may not have the ADK embedded in it but creates a local "X server" type of setup so I can "run" apps remotely on my PC the same as when I ssh from a Linus desktop to a Linux server and run X apps over that. Either a cable, wifi, or BT can be used to make the connection.
Shame things like the lapdocks, Entourage Edge, etc came out ahead of their time and too soon for the market. They were revolutionary (and still are) and if created today I think wold be a HUGE hit!
rhce_v6 said:
Can you post specs on the lapdock to Pi cable?
I have a MotoZ and Z2 and still can't figure out why moto can't just create a laptop mod where the KDB/mouse is "usb" and the video treated the same as they do with the projector mod. I have 2 lapdocks collecting dust so if I can use them with the Rpi 3 that would be GREAT!
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What I think would really solve this is a mod that goes on the back on the Z and has 5V 3A+ input, an HDMI port, and 1+ usb3 port(S). The USB3 port can accept a std USB hub and then any HDMI cables/adapters can be used. The 5V input would charge the phone, power the mod, and potentially even the USB port(s). Then you can not only use the lapdock but also can use the device as a"media dock" to connect the phone to TV, kdb, mouse, wireless remote via usb, etc. Even just taking any battery mod and just adding wireless charging and any size HDMI out port would work as the phones USB port can be hooked to a commodity USB hub.
In my mind today's phones are fully capable desktop class systems and all that is missing is:
1. Linux/chrome app to act like wine and allow me to run APKs on my desktop/browser
2. APK I install of wine and the equivalent for Linux so wine compatible apps and Linux x apps run on phone.
An alternative to item one above that works too is a chrome/desktop app that may or may not have the ADK embedded in it but creates a local "X server" type of setup so I can "run" apps remotely on my PC the same as when I ssh from a Linus desktop to a Linux server and run X apps over that. Either a cable, wifi, or BT can be used to make the connection.
Shame things like the lapdocks, Entourage Edge, etc came out ahead of their time and too soon for the market. They were revolutionary (and still are) and if created today I think wold be a HUGE hi
I agree, they sure would be a huge hit! I keep breaking my screen. I sure wish I could just dock the phone to my lapdock and use that till I can get my screen replaced
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PH-1 has Alternate Mode over Type C = watch movies over USB to a monitor

I just tested for Alternate mode over Type-C, to test for audio and video over DisplayPort. BINGO!
What we need
1. Essential PH-1 phone - Android version 7.1.1 - with screen rotation enabled on the phone
i. Tap and hold on the Home Screen
ii. Click - Settings
iii. Enable "Allow Home screen rotation"
i. Settings - Display - When device is rotated - Rotate the contents of the screen
2. USB Type C 3.1 cable capable of 5 amps support (can supply up to 100W power)
see https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/eqJQbujcikq
May or may not work with a Type C 3.1 cable capable of only 3 amps. Don't have a cable to try.
Will not work with a Type C USB 2.0 cable - typical charging cable - not enough wires in the cable
I believe there is total of 6 different USB Type C cables available, the 3 listed below, with either 3 amp or 5 amp features
i. USB 2.0
ii. USB 3.1 Gen 1 - up to 5 Gbps
iii. USB 3.1 Gen 2 - up to 10 Gbps
3. A monitor with a USB Type-C 3.1 input - LG 4K Ultrafine Monitor
Don't have any knowledge, with respect to Thunderbolt 3 input monitors
e.g. LG 5k Ultrafine Monitor
Not all phones have a USB Type C with 3.1, Gen 1 or Gen 2. Most have only USB Type C 2.0 - cheaper components
Enjoy!
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
SquireSCA said:
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
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Yes it does. I even tested a USB-C --> VGA cable at work the other day and it worked fine.
Anyone got a link to a USB-C-->HDMI connector that they know works with this phone?
That was a real bummer with the Pixel line, that they don't support HDMI output at all. I am glad that this one does. Now I just need to know which connector to buy from Amazon...
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I just ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07519HH4H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I will let you guys know how it works.
This phone just keeps aging better and better, company did things right with the hardware. Very good news
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Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
SquireSCA said:
Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
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Thanks; looks ideal for short uses only as you can't charge simultaneously.
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Essential PH-1 with Samsung Dex Station
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded for this phone to easily rival my S8 in overall functionality and performance. The Sentio app I am using now is good - but not 100% there yet as it doesn't handle the screen properly due to the camera notch ... and the DPI settings are a bit wonky - but do work.
LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded
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Auxens OXI looks pretty sweet. Is someone working on a Lineage port w/Auxens OXI or is that just a wish list request?
This will come in handy watching Vanced YouTube without ads
If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
GospelNerd said:
If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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Yeah I bought the Belinda USB c HDMI adapter as linked to from Amazon and it works for like 2 minutes but then randomly cuts off totally. I'm unfortunately on Oreo b3.
Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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I use a Samsung adapter regularly at work to stream TV on my lunch break to a TV. Used it on Nougat and on Pie
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
mikemilos said:
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
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Pie does support it. If you have access to another adapter, I'd test it on the Essential. My PH-1 had faulty hardware preventing HDMI output last spring. I had to get it replaced to get it to work.

Dextop setup...

Starting a thread to see what kind of kooky and cool ideas peeps have come up with for their setup.
I just bought another Logitech MX570 trackball mouse. My 3rd. I like to go back and forth between traditional mice (MX Performance) and trackball so I don't get carpal tunnel and tendonitis. I'm up in the air about the dedicated keyboard. I will probably get the Logitech K800 as that has been my favorite so far. I would like to try the Craft but too expensive.
I know many of you are just going straight usb-c to HDMI adapter and using Bluetooth accessories. Those are welcome too. It would be really nice if Logitech came out with a sweet sweet keyboard with touchpad built in. There are a couple but the cheap one is just that, cheap and low quality. I bought my mom the K400 and it works fine for her but not for me. Logitech needs to step up their game on a keyboard with touchpad built in.
I am also using Logitech because of the unifying receiver so only USB port is taken for 2 accessories. Have not decided on a USB thumb drive yet.
What setups are you running for productivity with DEX? Please share so there is a thread peeps (that actually use the search function) can come and see what options there are to fit their workflow. Or haven't thought of.
I will update later today see if my USB controllers work for emulators and what the latency is, which I am hoping is just as good as mouse input. I was expecting critical latency that would make the experience bad.
Anybody try with a USB powered monitor yet?
I'm sorry, but..... pics or it didn't happen, right?
I invested in this dex stuff just as a hobby. I already have 4 pc’s plus a laptop and an iPad Pro 12.9 i carry with me daily.
I passed on it with the note 8 but thought to give it a go the note 9.
I also use the mxperformance mouse for my pcs but i picked up a jelly comb foldable portable wireless keyboard. It has a click-style mouse pad and the keypad is pleasant to use. I also picked up the dex pad , hdmi 2.0b latest spec hdmi cable.
I guess a good way to use this setup will be when I download films to the device. Rather than copy the file over to the pc, i can just connect the dex to the display and have better flexibility.
I found the jelly comb folding keyboard to be crap. Double characters everywhere. Moved to a generic wireless mouse on one of the USB ports and an MS folding BT keyboard. It's replaced my work laptop for 80% of tasks. Oh and powering the HDMI adapter by a Nintendo switch USB C power supply as it kicks out 2.6A which is enough to charge the phone at the same time.
I probably won't post a pic (if I even remember) until Friday or Saturday. I think I will try using it one day and a USB 3 thumb drive. I think DEX only supports USB 2 though. Another missed opportunity by Samsung to make this an even better pseudo desktop experience. Did Sammy use 3 or 3.1 for their USB C? Having two or even one USB 3 A port would've been sweet for local storage. Between a Logitech unifying receiver and a SanDisk UltraFit USB 3 drive and you're talking one smaller desktop.
Samsung could make some corny commercials pitting it against Intel NUC boxes like their Apple commercials. ???
Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.
I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.
soundneedle said:
I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.
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Woah, you have a working sound for hp elite? Is there any special way to get it?
I had picked up a DeX dock from Amazon for 60 bucks. I used a logitech anywhere BT mouse and the blue BT keyboard. Mouse and keyboard work great. Resolution looks crappy, seem kinda blurry for a 1080p screen. Still needs work, I was hoping to get the DeX working good enough to use as a htpc streamer for my living room TV. Still fun to play around with tho.
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does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
dex output is crystal clear for me. I have used this on an lg 4K 27 inch monitor and my old school plasma Panasonic 3D display from 2011
I have a late spec hdmi 2.0b cable and again the resolution is not blurry at all. Plenty of videos on the web to also show the clarity .
Yes dex works with a regular hdmi spec cable usb c to hdmi. I have also used dex with just a cable (waiting on the pad tho show up)
What happens when incoming call?
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!
RTNote9 said:
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!
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I've received several phone calls when on DeX.. Since I'm working in a personal room, I'm just answering the phone calls using speakerphone.. If you're using external speaker, the audio will be routed there (I once used my UE Boom 2 speaker for answering call)
thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.
RTNote9 said:
thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.
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If you're using USB-C to monitor, in my experience, you can just answer phone normally on phone
vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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Got one for 20 that works fine
vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
mike28 said:
Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.
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Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...
xonyl said:
Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...
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Are you talking about the HDMI cable? HDMI cables are cheap.
mike28 said:
I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
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which one did you get for 15 bucks? I got one from ebay for 7 bucks (only the adapter hdmi to usb c) and didn't work at all but maybe is my hdmi cable which is really old

USB-C to HDMI adapter

Hi,
Can someone recommend USB-C to HDMI adapter for p30 pro or docking station ?
Or it's not possible to connect by this way phone to external display
yhans said:
Hi,
Can someone recommend USB-C to HDMI adapter for p30 pro or docking station ?
Or it's not possible to connect by this way phone to external display
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I'm also looking for a Type C to HDMI cable, and I was wondering if the P30 Pro outputs at 60hz? (at 1080p or 4k?) The Kirin 980 looks good for PSP/Gamecube emulation and I'd like the emulators to run at full speed on my TV.
Will something like this be ok?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/uni-Thunderbolt-Compatible-Pixelbook-More-Space/dp/B075V5JK36
Picking up my P30 pro tomorrow and I will glad to see the back of this Sony, no MHL out and the headphone jack failed within a year.
I've got 2 'standard' amazon USB-C to HDMI adaptors, they all work great. If you're using it for occasional displaying then don't worry, but if you are hoping to use it longer term then get one that does PD passthrough
NJ72 said:
I've got 2 'standard' amazon USB-C to HDMI adaptors, they all work great. If you're using it for occasional displaying then don't worry, but if you are hoping to use it longer term then get one that does PD passthrough
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In the end I bought this Choetech USB C to HDMI cable. Used it to watch the football on my TV using the BT sport app and it worked perfectly. It is a massive step up from Mira/Chrome casting and has high wattage PD so that the phone charges quickly as well.
I'm going to add a few roms and emulators (PPSSPP, Damon PS2 & Dolphin) to my phone at some point and will see if I get 60fps on the TV and whether it outputs in 4k, but for £17 (I got an open box one for £13) it's a bargain.
I use mine for emulator gaming (admittedly on a 1080p screen) and it works great
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In the end I bought this Choetech USB C to HDMI cable. Used it to watch the football on my TV using the BT sport app and it worked perfectly. It is a massive step up from Mira/Chrome casting and has high wattage PD so that the phone charges quickly as well.
I'm going to add a few roms and emulators (PPSSPP, Damon PS2 & Dolphin) to my phone at some point and will see if I get 60fps on the TV and whether it outputs in 4k, but for £17 (I got an open box one for £13) it's a bargain.
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Hi.
Can you test that cable with Netflix?
Best regards.
1920x1080 I believe is what it does. At least that's what the resolution of the screenshots are when you're in desktop mode. Desktop mode doesn't work with all apps. I tested it with a 4K monitor and 4K HDMI cable and 4K adapter, but it's not outputting 4K.
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Hi.
Can you test that cable with Netflix?
Best regards.
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Hi I downloaded Netflix and started a trial with the UltraHD options.
The phone outputs Netflix in Full HD whilst in phone mode, but not 4k. It may well be outputting HDR via HDMI, but my TV only responds to HDR content from the USB port (thanks Sony) so I can't confirm this.
When in desktop mode, the audio comes through but the screen is black (apart from the navigation options and content warnings). This is a shame as when I use the BT Sport app it outputs video at the highest possible resolution with out issue. So Netflix via desktop mode is not possible, perhaps this could be escalated with Huawei and patched via software, I wouldn't know.
I also tested the UltraHD options via the Android TV app on my Sony TV and it worked flawlessly, although I will be uninstalling Netflix after my month because KODI.
Hope this helps.
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Actually this modded version of the Netflix APK could be interesting, when I get home from work I might try this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/watch-netflix-hd-ultra-hd-poco-f1-t3840727
bombdog said:
Hi I downloaded Netflix and started a trial with the UltraHD options.
The phone outputs Netflix in Full HD whilst in phone mode, but not 4k. It may well be outputting HDR via HDMI, but my TV only responds to HDR content from the USB port (thanks Sony) so I can't confirm this.
When in desktop mode, the audio comes through but the screen is black (apart from the navigation options and content warnings). This is a shame as when I use the BT Sport app it outputs video at the highest possible resolution with out issue. So Netflix via desktop mode is not possible, perhaps this could be escalated with Huawei and patched via software, I wouldn't know.
I also tested the UltraHD options via the Android TV app on my Sony TV and it worked flawlessly, although I will be uninstalling Netflix after my month because KODI.
Hope this helps.
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Actually this modded version of the Netflix APK could be interesting, when I get home from work I might try this.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/watch-netflix-hd-ultra-hd-poco-f1-t3840727
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Thanks a lot for your test.
Even in desktop mode and only full hd netflix doesn't work? I don't use 4k because for now I don't have TV or monitor 4k.
Best regards.
Charging Speed with adapter
bombdog said:
In the end I bought this CHOETECH cable. Used it to watch the football on my TV using the BT sport app and it worked perfectly. It is a massive step up from Mira/Chrome casting and has high wattage PD so that the phone charges quickly as well.
I'm going to add a few roms and emulators (PPSSPP, Damon PS2 & Dolphin) to my phone at some point and will see if I get 60fps on the TV and whether it outputs in 4k, but for £17 (I got an open box one for £13) it's a bargain.
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hi, do u mind sharing your charging speed using Ampere apps on playstore? im using BASEUS with same 60W power delivery, but the charging speed is so low. your help will be grateful.tqsm!!
I use this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07M61X8N3
Mainly for watching my own content on TVs in hotels. So far I have not had any issues.
I went for this one from Amazon
USB C Hub, WIMUUE 7 in 1 Aluminum Adapter with 100W Power Delivery, 4K HDMI, 2 USB 3.0 Ports, MicroSD, SD Card Reader USBC Dongle for MacBook Pro/Air Thunderbolt 3 Multiport Dock USB Type C Laptop: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy USB C Hub, WIMUUE 7 in 1 Aluminum Adapter with 100W Power Delivery, 4K HDMI, 2 USB 3.0 Ports, MicroSD, SD Card Reader USBC Dongle for MacBook Pro/Air Thunderbolt 3 Multiport Dock USB Type C Laptop at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
for about £20. Plugged it in and it worked straight off playing a film on a USB stuck into the hub using MXPlayer (on the phone) onto my TV via HDMI . Thought it was handier as my laptop doesn't have a microSD card reader so could use it on there too.... and get stuff onto or off my phone onto USB/microSD/SD. Happy chap! Ready for hotel visits now.

Otg with charging

Hey guys, I'm fixing to refunction an original Pixel as a 3D printer server (Octoprint), and OTG works a treat, however I cannot keep the phone charged while using OTG.
Is there a working solution for this? I don't mind getting my hands dirty.
Thanks y'all.
It's a bit finicky, you just have to find the right usb-c hub that supports charging and OTG.
one thing I noticed was the usb-c hub I am using supports passthrough PD charging (your pixel stock charger is a PD charger). if your usb-c pd charger power output is too high, i think it might run into issues with the hub.
by chance, my usb-c hub that supports passthrough PD charging is paired with a generic charger.... both the charging and OTG function may sometimes take a few connection attempts to get it working.... trying different combination of plugging in the charger to the hub, OTG device (i use a microsdxc card reader) and plugging into the pixel.
all i can say is good luck!
WhereCoffeeFlowsLikeMud said:
Hey guys, I'm fixing to refunction an original Pixel as a 3D printer server (Octoprint), and OTG works a treat, however I cannot keep the phone charged while using OTG.
Is there a working solution for this? I don't mind getting my hands dirty.
Thanks y'all.
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hey just wanted to say, funny I should find this thread because I'm trying to achieve the exact same thing (Octoprint server) with an old Galaxy Note 4, and can't for the life of me figure out why OTG charging/data would be disabled. Did you manage to figure out a fix?
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hey just wanted to say, funny I should find this thread because I'm trying to achieve the exact same thing (Octoprint server) with an old Galaxy Note 4, and can't for the life of me figure out why OTG charging/data would be disabled. Did you manage to figure out a fix?
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Alas, nope - not without soldering directly to the main board. I just gave AliExpress $15 instead and they gave me a Rockchip-based MXQ Pro Android TV box in return (that sits under my printer). I parked Armbian Linux on it, then plugged in a webcam. Working like a dream. Thinking of switching to Klipper at some point, so going the TV box route was probably for the best (on account of the 4 CPU cores, loadsa RAM and internal storage, and the four or five USB ports).
Ps, sorry about the formatting - my phone flipped out cos of some annoying ad.
Thanks for the response; it's unfortunate that a solution like Octoprint 4 Android would be rendered almost pointless by something as assumedly simple as 'device can't charge via USB'.
I have a Raspberry Pi that I can probably get Octoprint running on with a cheap webcam, but I'm going to google that Android TV box you mentioned too because a few other people have mentioned that these are somehow even better/more future-proof than a RPi.

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