Hello guys
My cellphone's ram is MICRON brand and Im very upset about that because all note 6 pro use samsung ram expet my cellphone !!!
Do you know whats the difference between them?
and which one is better?
I dont know why Xiaomi change the brand of ram ?!!
Both are high quality RAM brands, there's nothing bad about Micron. As to why Xiaomi changed brands, I can only guess either Samsung couldn't deliver enough chips or maybe Micron cut them a better deal.
Both maker can produce those low specs RAM chips very easily, they have decades of experience so I doubt there's any difference on paper.
If you have both part numbers, you can find the datasheets online.
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Hi to everyone,
I bought the S860 -1GB version, and the only major drawback that I see is the 1GB RAM. Can somebody explain whats the difference between CN and ROW versions (beside the oblivious)? Is it hardware, software, or both. What are the difference in the ROM's of the two versions? It seems VERY strange to me, that LENOVO would go for two different assemblies, only excluding the memory chip. If this is the case, than I can easily solder the missing chip.
I am noob in Android development, but I understand hardware, so if anyone have interest in investigating, I can post pics of the phone's guts and see what's what.
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Hi to everyone,
I bought the S860 -1GB version, and the only major drawback that I see is the 1GB RAM. Can somebody explain whats the difference between CN and ROW versions (beside the oblivious)? Is it hardware, software, or both. What are the difference in the ROM's of the two versions? It seems VERY strange to me, that LENOVO would go for two different assemblies, only excluding the memory chip. If this is the case, than I can easily solder the missing chip.
I am noob in Android development, but I understand hardware, so if anyone have interest in investigating, I can post pics of the phone's guts and see what's what.
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I wouldn't advise soldering another chip to your tablet for an extra 1GB. If it's that important buy the ROW version but as far as I can see the 1GB is the only difference.
However it's still advised not to solder the chip as the controler for the RAM may be set for 1GB not 2GB
Hi everyone
I'm new to the mobile phone scene but after a bit of research on deciding which phones to invest in I've noticed something; Chinese phones (not easily available in Western countries) have better specs and prices compared with the phones we have from brands like Samsung, Apple, HTC, Sony etc.
I'm talking about Vivo phones, Xiaomi etc. These phones routinely have 16mp cameras with OIS, large 2.0 (or even bigger) sensors, full HD or QHD 5 to 6" screens, 2 to 3GB of RAM, very large front facing cameras (5 to 8mp with flash, 1080P recording), Snapdragon 805 chips and batteries 3500mh+. All this in bodies thinner than 7mm (in some cases, the low5mm range). Many have aluminium chassis too.
Im wondering why we still see phones from Samsung, HTC, Apple and even the Nexus 6 (which is supposed to be absolutely premium in specs & quality) selling for such high prices but with specs lower than the Chinese phones. Surly Samsung & these other brands can release a phone, keep their prices the same but match or exceed the specs of these Chinese phones.
Why does the Galaxy S5 have a comparably low front facing camera, smaller battery and is thicker than these Chinese phones? Or the Nexus 6 - why is the FF camera smaller, why is the rear camera smaller, why does it have a smaller battery and why is it so much thicker? Surly these phones could match the specs of the Chinese phones.
Example: The upcoming VIVO PD1305 rumoured specs (below) should best (or at least match) the Nexus 6 in every respect. Thinner, same chipset, same amount of RAM, better front and rear cameras, stereo speakers, NFC, larger battery etc. Why couldn't Google have these specs in the Nexus 6 and sell it at the current price? The VIVO is expected to be cheaper by $100+. The specs are leaked; previous VIVO leaked specs matched very closely to the final product and there is strong evidence to support that this new VIVO phone's specs will match to the leaked specs as all the technology has been around for a short while now.
Basically what I'm trying to establish is why the Western market is so full of overpriced phones which can't complete on every front with cheaper Chinese phones? Will Samsung etc actually match or best these Chinese phones in terms of specs?
Specs:
6-inch IPS display with 2560×1440 resolution and 490ppi
5.68mm (0.22") thin
162g (5.71 ounces) weight
Snapdragon 805 processor with 3GB of RAM
32GB of internal storage with a microSD card slot that goes up to 128GB
13MP rear camera with optical image stabilization (OIS) and dual-LED flash, 8MP front camera with 88-degree wide view lens
Dedicated ES9018 and OPA2604 audio chips
NFC
LTE Radio support (confirmed at some sources; still in debate as it is useless in China)
Wireless charging
Basic water resistance
Heart rate monitor and a fingerprint trace the source function
3500mAh battery
NOTE: Before anyone says it - that most Chinese phones don't support LTE networks - from some reading there is talk that the latest and upcoming Chinese manufacturers are including support for LTE networks as their market expands. So, they are covering ground fast and innovating far faster than any of the phones we see in our Western markets.
In my opinion the specs for the latest Chinese phones (especially for the VIVO listed) put the Nexus 6 and its rivals to shame. A bit sad.
The problem with these chinese phones is, that you hardly have any warranty.
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The problem with these chinese phones is, that you hardly have any warranty.
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Who needs a warranty for a hundred dollar thing...?
Never thought about this question, but now i am really thinking that it's a great idea to buy Chinese phones!
i have had a friend that bought a phone, he was using it for two months until i told him that it is a Chinese device.......
Newyork! said:
Who needs a warranty for a hundred dollar thing...?
Never thought about this question, but now i am really thinking that it's a great idea to buy Chinese phones!
i have had a friend that bought a phone, he was using it for two months until i told him that it is a Chinese device.......
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Okay, maybe you are right, but you have hardly any support and if its an chinese phone who hardly anyone has, you can be sure you will not get any updates.
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Okay, maybe you are right, but you have hardly any support and if its an chinese phone who hardly anyone has, you can be sure you will not get any updates.
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When i buy a old Motorola phone i also don't have any support or updates....
For 100 dollars or lower it pays!
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When i buy a old Motorola phone i also don't have any support or updates....
For 100 dollars or lower it pays!
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Ok you are right and if you are lucky and buy a chinese phone with an large userbase it pays twice because you get support by the community around that phone
Hi all,
As described in the title, i'm in doubt about which of these three phones i should choose:
-Wiko Wax
-(Huawei) Honor Holly
-Huawei G620s
They're all in the same price range in my country, and they don't differ very much i believe.
The thing is, with phones i don't really know what really makes a difference in performance and what is important.
The wiko has more gpu cores and significant higher clock speeds regarding cpu, ram, and gpu, but i don't know whether this makes a difference since it's another brand of chip.
You can't compare amd vs intel with same clockspeeds so i guess it's the same with phones.
The holly has 16gb of storage while the g620 has 8, the wiko has only 4gb.
A good custom rom would be nice, and i think there are more and better roms for the huawei's
However the biggest point of doubt is the durability of the phones, which one is the most rigid.
So which of these phones do you think i should buy? Also, if you think there's a way better phone than these ones in the same price range feel free to recommend it.
Btw, in holland where i live most cheap chinese phones like doogee are unfortunately not available.
Thanks for your time!
Ask here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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I was wondering for light to moderate use which model between the 6gb and 8gb do you think would be more taxing on battery.
I'm assuming I would likely never fill 6gb as I close apps when not in use and only use a handful anyway.
What are your thoughts?
I'm no developer but if I had to guess, I don't think the difference in RAM has any effect on battery life. If it does, I'm sure it's so little it would be impossible to notice. Anyone who is more knowledgeable than me on this, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!
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I was wondering for light to moderate use which model between the 6gb and 8gb do you think would be more taxing on battery.
I'm assuming I would likely never fill 6gb as I close apps when not in use and only use a handful anyway.
What are your thoughts?
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Good question ! I was also wondering the same thing. Logically speaking there should be a difference but only significant if there are less physical chips on board for the 6GB model. I am very much inclined to order the 6GB model for a bit better battery life - 64GB of storage is plenty for me anyway.
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Good question ! I was also wondering the same thing. Logically speaking there should be a difference but only significant if there are less physical chips on board for the 6GB model. I am very much inclined to order the 6GB model for a bit better battery life - 64GB of storage is plenty for me anyway.
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Thing is, just like with flash storage, the controller and actual configuration of the chips will make power consumption vary wildly. We don't know the clock speed of the LPDDR4X RAM they are using, maybe it's different between the 6 and 8gb version.
Same as with the NAND chips, many factors have an influence on the electrical consumption and maybe they tweaked the 128 and 256gb version to be more energy conservative at the cost of speed.... speed that may be regained due to the fact that NAND arrays/strings are faster when there are more cells in them.
Then there's the use-case... IF the 8GB version has worse energy consumption values, maybe it still has better battery life because it can store more apps in RAM and has less need to constantly access the flash memory ?
TL;DR : we can make hypothesis but in the end there's just too much we don't know to really say if one is more energy efficient than the other.
more goods is better always !!
now with 8gb ram I can open all my apps and keeps them opened all day which will stress less processor power and keep battery.
Also, I need as much as possible storage, 256gb is ok for now.
We don't know how to get fine the kernel and OS for more ram, I would hope they would reduce compression so it strains the CPU less i.e. zram, or use the extra space to cache more things across the OS to keep things more consistent. I don't notice anymore apps open on the 8gb op6 Vs 6gb op5t.
In saying that my op6 has yet to use more than 5gb ram
ram uses the same power regardless
if the chip is the same - both use the same amount of power
only difference will be one can have more apps in memory than the other (assuming you can fill 6GB of ram... on a phone...)
other than that zero difference
Considering how experiences on the battery related threads seem to vary wildly, I wonder if this is the cause?
I was considering downgrading from an 8Gb version to 6Gb, but if I plan to keep this phone for a few years is it better to hold on to the 8Gb?
3Gb seemed like overkill when I first got my OPO but now it is less than some budget phones provide.
My OP6 - 6Gb close Google Maps and Sportify with 2,1 GB free...
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Nothing to do with battery life, but there seems to be some very aggressive ram management on the OP6 which affects the 6Gb version much more than the 8Gb: https://youtu.be/t5UEN2vpchQ
Maybe I will keep the 8Gb version after all.
MKBHD said cheap phones are getting better and good phones are getting cheaper.
I have been already wondering how chinese phones are so cheap.
Not to mention reputed company like Nokia and Motorola are entering this midrange and low-end killar spec game.
I guess they keep less profit than others.
Are phone processor sold like Intel and AMD processor?
I heard sd450 cost $10.5 but where they are sold .
Let say components of a cheap phone :
How much each of this component will cost ?
Qualcomm Snapdragon 429
16GB EMMC 5.1
2GB LPDDR3 800mhz
OV13855-GA5A-2A 1.12um camera module
OV08856 1.12um 8mp camera module
5.7 INCH IPS LCD 720P 18:9
5 Magnet Transducer type speaker
3500MAH lithium battery.
How much a metallic casing and dragon tail glass/ gorilla glass cost actually?
How PCB are made and how complex they are for a smartphone?
What about XDA making its own phone with sd855 and complete custom XDA ROM ?
These are all wondering Inside my head . Anyway I hope I gonna have some answers.
I am waiting for everyone's opinion .
Somehow MKBHD is right