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Is not having external SDCard an issue for rooting?

I'll try to explain myself before people jump at me. I saw another thread with same question but seems like people misunderstood the question.
I am not talking about "lack" of memory, or not having another 32/64gb availble, etc.
I'll give you an example to what I am referring to:
Recently I decided that my rooted S2 needs a little 'refreshing', meaning - not just a wipe, but a complete format, to start from scratch. So I formatted everything, including /system and /emmc partitions. I then re-booted to recovery and had my rom file on the SD card so i was able to get a clean install.
Now, the question is - say I am at a stage when I need to 'refresh' the phone and wipe everything out. How do I then access the rom file for new install if I don't have external SD Card?
Thanks.

with adb.

What I do when I want a clean start, is I will load the rom/gapps/kernel to my phone, go to recovery, factory reset (with system if you choose), then flash all the things you want, then go back and wipe internal storage after. Then you're left with a fresh version of the ROM you want to install and no files whatsoever in the memory. Hope that helps.

I had the same suspicions a while ago. Basically with the nexus 5, even without an external sd, you can still do a full wipe of everything other than your storage. There is a path on the internal storage which essentially acts like an sd card, and when doing wipes in recovery it will not be wiped, unless of course you specifically choose to format /sdcard or all of /data. Read here for more info. I found that explanation very helpful.
So to answer your question, no, its not an issue.

Zepius said:
with adb.
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This.
I have the same issue, with my OCD, that I always need a complete wipe of EVERYTHING.
One option, I recommend if that's not an option at the time of flash, is to simply "reset" in settings. It clears out the whole SD, which is something I usually want to do when I want a FULL flash

justinisloco said:
simply "reset" in settings. It clears out the whole SD, which is something I usually want to do when I want a FULL flash
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Reset in settings just uses recovery unless something changed I haven't realised?
It should be down to what recovery you have (stock vs custom) as to whether a reset (regardless of how you initiate it) wipes /sdcard or not... or are you saying that's changed now?
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Zepius said:
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is adb?
spitefulrain said:
What I do when I want a clean start, is I will load the rom/gapps/kernel to my phone, go to recovery, factory reset (with system if you choose), then flash all the things you want, then go back and wipe internal storage after. Then you're left with a fresh version of the ROM you want to install and no files whatsoever in the memory. Hope that helps.
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Problem with factory reset, as far as I know, is that it does not wipe out everything. When I do factory reset in my S2, I still see old folders (even though empty) from before the wipe. That's why I like to format everything clean. When I mean clean, I don't want to see any old folder in there
justinisloco said:
This.
I have the same issue, with my OCD, that I always need a complete wipe of EVERYTHING.
One option, I recommend if that's not an option at the time of flash, is to simply "reset" in settings. It clears out the whole SD, which is something I usually want to do when I want a FULL flash
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OK, but if you do that, where do you 'keep' the rom file and how do you flash it?

sbi1 said:
Pardon my ignorance, but what is adb?
OK, but if you do that, where do you 'keep' the rom file and how do you flash it?
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Android Debug Bridge. It allows you to communicate with your phone via command line tools.
You would keep the rom somewhere on your internal storage (data/media) just like you would on any other phone. Then after wiping, you would simply choose to install zip from sdcard and your rom, along with any other flashable zip on your sdcard will be available to install. Basically when you do a typical full wipe from a custom recovery, the contents of your internal storage/sdcard are not wiped.

Chromium said:
Android Debug Bridge. It allows you to communicate with your phone via command line tools.
You would keep the rom somewhere on your internal storage (data/media) just like you would on any other phone. Then after wiping, you would simply choose to install zip from sdcard and your rom, along with any other flashable zip on your sdcard will be available to install. Basically when you do a typical full wipe from a custom recovery, the contents of your internal storage/sdcard are not wiped.
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OK, this seems a bit too complicated for me

sbi1 said:
Problem with factory reset, as far as I know, is that it does not wipe out everything. When I do factory reset in my S2, I still see old folders (even though empty) from before the wipe. That's why I like to format everything clean. When I mean clean, I don't want to see any old folder in there
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Which is why I said wipe your internal storage after
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rootSU said:
Reset in settings just uses recovery unless something changed I haven't realised?
It should be down to what recovery you have (stock vs custom) as to whether a reset (regardless of how you initiate it) wipes /sdcard or not... or are you saying that's changed now?
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Lately, I've noticed that it wipes the Data as well. Unless It was only on CWM that it happened? I had installed CM11 with CWM and wanted to reset my SD. I used the reset feature and it erased everything, except the OS
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OK, but if you do that, where do you 'keep' the rom file and how do you flash it?
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I would flash the Rom first, then do the factory reset, the only downside is the nandroid you made may be lost, unless you uploaded it to GDrive or something.
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Using this guide, you will be able to learn about ADB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
In Step 3-
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3. Rooting
Now that your phone has an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery installed you have a two options to gain root (Pick one or the other. You don't need to do both)
Option A) Flash SuperSU binaries which will give you root with the stock rom
Confirm that you have downloaded the SuperSU zip from the downloads section above and that it is located in the platform-tools folder inside of the android-sdk-windows folder on your desktop.
Turn the phone off then boot into the bootloader. (volume down + power). Once in the bootloader use the volume rockers to scroll onto Recovery Mode, then press power to select it. This should bring you into your newly installed custom recovery. Leave the phone at the home page of the custom recovery.
Open a command prompt window and run the following commands:
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cd Desktop/android-sdk-windows/platform-tools
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adb push UPDATE-SuperSU-v[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR].[COLOR="red"]XX[/COLOR].zip /sdcard/
This will copy the SuperSU zip onto your phone. Once the command has completed continue.
Instructions for TeamWin Recovery Project (TWRP):
Install > browse to SuperSU zip and select the it
Swipe to confirm the installation. Then reboot.
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It shows how to "Push" a file to your phone. That is the best way, IMO. But instead of SuperSU, just "adb push ROM.zip /sdcard/"

sbi1 said:
OK, this seems a bit too complicated for me
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Flashing the rom? Its honestly not any more complicated than flashing a rom for any other device. You download the rom to your internal storage. Boot into recovery. Then do a full wipe:
TWRP Full Wipe:
- Wipe
- Advanced wipe
- Select all, except internal storage
- Swipe to wipe
CWM Full Wipe:
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- advanced > wipe dalvik cache
- mounts and storage > format /system
Finally you can then flash the rom (and gapps).

sbi1 said:
OK, this seems a bit too complicated for me
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It's not really and if you're rooting and flashing any device, adb is essential knowledge.
Once you've installed adb (millions of guides on the net) you just boot into recovery then connect to pc via usb.
adb commands are run from cmd prompt.
For example...
adb push c:\users\sbi1\desktop\rom.zip /sdcard
Would push the file on your windows desktop called rom.zip to your sdcard.
You can even sideload from recovery.
Or better yet,.just don't wipe /sdcard. It has no benefit other than looking tidy anyway
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Ok too many cooks... i'm bowing out
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OK, thank you all. So I should have no worries then. Was just wondering how this is done without external SD and it seems to be working fine. Thanks again!

Chromium said:
CWM Full Wipe:
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- advanced > wipe dalvik cache
- mounts and storage > format /system
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Parting note
Philz Touch Full Wipe:
- wipe data/factory reset > clean to install new ROM
(Does all the steps mentioned above at once)
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Disable encryption protection?

Hi Guys
Im having trouble flashing new Roms to my S7. When I enter TWRP recovery, it shows my device as 0MB and it doesnt picK up any files. I looked into this and read that Encryption should be disabled on the handset. I followed instructions to do this and noticed that there is no option for Encryption Protection. Its not there!
I disabled any passwords and Pin numbers to erase decryption and it still didnt work!
last resort was to try a factory reset and the device restarted to recovery and failed as TWRP recovery cant find any mounted devices due to the encryption crap.
Any help appreciated.
Chris

scientificharmony said:
Hi Guys
Im having trouble flashing new Roms to my S7. When I enter TWRP recovery, it shows my device as 0MB and it doesnt picK up any files. I looked into this and read that Encryption should be disabled on the handset. I followed instructions to do this and noticed that there is no option for Encryption Protection. Its not there!
I disabled any passwords and Pin numbers to erase decryption and it still didnt work!
last resort was to try a factory reset and the device restarted to recovery and failed as TWRP recovery cant find any mounted devices due to the encryption crap.
Any help appreciated.
Chris
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Hi mate
Seems like you did not format your data partition during TWRP installation.........
Try flashing your custom rom from the External SD card......your data partition has all your app , files , passwords, photos...there is still a chance that there it may be a incompatibility issue between your apps and the new rom....that is why they recommend a factory reset when flashing a new custom rom

MAX 404 said:
Hi mate
Seems like you did not format your data partition during TWRP installation.........
Try flashing your custom rom from the External SD card......your data partition has all your app , files , passwords, photos...there is still a chance that there it may be a incompatibility issue between your apps and the new rom....that is why they recommend a factory reset when flashing a new custom rom
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hi mate
thanks for your reply. I dont have an external SD card
Is there any other way of sorting this? I am downloading a stock rom as we speak.

scientificharmony said:
hi mate
thanks for your reply. I dont have an external SD card
Is there any other way of sorting this? I am downloading a stock rom as we speak.
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Hi
TWRP can not handle Samsung encryption . if you wish to use TWRP and have access to the Data partition ( internal SD card) you need to format it so the encryption is disabled ( you lose all your apps , data and user configuration AKA factory reset) , you can have TWRP and data encryption but mods and roms have to be flashed from external memories also you will not have available MTP in recovery or factory reset from it.
There is no way to disable data encryption without format data.....

Ok, I got a friends SD card and placed the Rom on there. I can now see the Rom but the trouble is, TWRP wont let me wipe Dalvik / data / system / cache as it wont mount the storage....
can I still apply the ROM?

Unable to restart your device. The integrity verification has failed. You need to reset your device to factory default settings. This will erase all of your data.

scientificharmony said:
Unable to restart your device. The integrity verification has failed. You need to reset your device to factory default settings. This will erase all of your data.
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That is why I point it out " factory reset is recommended when flashing custom rom" if you wish to flash a custom rom you will have to format your data partition and flash the data verify file........

MAX 404 said:
That is why I point it out " factory reset is recommended when flashing custom rom" if you wish to flash a custom rom you will have to format your data partition and flash the data verify file........
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I have tried to format/wipe data. TWRP keeps saying it failed as it cant mount the storage.
I tried flashing the stock rom via odin and it also failed as it goes to recovery to wipe data and it fails again as it cant mount storage.

scientificharmony said:
I have tried to format/wipe data. TWRP keeps saying it failed as it cant mount the storage.
I tried flashing the stock rom via odin and it also failed as it goes to recovery to wipe data and it fails again as it cant mount storage.
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How did you flash the stock rom...which files did you use?
Wipe data is not enough you have to Wipe / FORMAT DATA and type yes....

1 To get rid of encryption, go to "wipe", format data (TWRP) (keyboard will pop up) then type "yes" and format it, then reboot to recovery
2. After flashing this, hit wipe, full wipe (this will clean all internal memory and your data will be lost
3 you can test if encryption is still enabled, if TWRP shows error about not mounting data your phone is still encrypted
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Josh Smith10 said:
1 To get rid of encryption, go to "wipe", format data (TWRP) (keyboard will pop up) then type "yes" and format it, then reboot to recovery
2. After flashing this, hit wipe, full wipe (this will clean all internal memory and your data will be lost
3 you can test if encryption is still enabled, if TWRP shows error about not mounting data your phone is still encrypted
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What version of TWRP are you guys using and what version Super SU?

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0MB Internal Storage - Galaxy J7 Prime (SM-G610F)

So I have this problem with TWRP that I haven't been able to find a solution for, it's been bugging me for a while now. Everytime I try to format data in TWRP to remove encryption on my internal storage it will work fine as long as I am on recovery mode but if I reboot to system and setup everything, when I reboot back to TWRP it goes back to 0MB, any solution?

Format Data In TWRP. THIS WILL DELETE ALL YOUR DATA

JonathanFreeze said:
Format Data In TWRP. THIS WILL DELETE ALL YOUR DATA
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That's what I have been doing but it goes back to 0MB after setting up the phone.

Yes. Format data system It will not recognize the internal memory
Need memory card

U need to flash an encryption breaker zip.then u can mount data

UndeadReaper said:
So I have this problem with TWRP that I haven't been able to find a solution for, it's been bugging me for a while now. Everytime I try to format data in TWRP to remove encryption on my internal storage it will work fine as long as I am on recovery mode but if I reboot to system and setup everything, when I reboot back to TWRP it goes back to 0MB, any solution?
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You need to flash a custom kernel with Forced Encryption disabled and then format /data in TWRP

I am getting same 0 mb internal problem it gets solved after formatting data but when u start the stock rom and fill the Google accent details and all I mean after setting it up and when we boot to recovery after that same problem occurs and after card also can't be read
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DarkLord1731 said:
You need to flash a custom kernel with Forced Encryption disabled and then format /data in TWRP
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What does that mean?

Zeusvk54 said:
What does that mean?
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Visit DarkLord thread about TWRP 3.2.1 J7 Prime. There will be instruction about "mount internal storage"

AnggaFxz said:
Visit DarkLord thread about TWRP 3.2.1 J7 Prime. There will be instruction about "mount internal storage"
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Thank you it worked....

0 mb in TWRP internal storage

I searched for an answer and noticed it's a common issue. I am trying to flash a kernel on to my already flashed rom. I was wondering if there is a more current fix. More importantly, how can this be avoided in the future. Thank you guys!

Its caused by a bug/error with either the filesystem or encryption.
Did you wipe data after flashing the new ROM? Data from stock usually doesn't work with custom ROMs.
Do you have a PIN/password on Android?
Are you using the latest build of TWRP?
Press the menu button at the bottom of the screen in TWRP and post what the error message is in the red text.

It's caused by no root access

djhulk2 said:
It's caused by no root access
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Something is probably wrong with the data partition. TWRP should always have root access.
Try in TWRP:
Wipe > Format Data > Slide to format
This will erase the data partition, so backup everything to a PC in Android first if needed. It should allow TWRP to mount /data again.

KemikalElite said:
Something is probably wrong with the data partition. TWRP should always have root access.
Try in TWRP:
Wipe > Format Data > Slide to format
This will erase the data partition, so backup everything to a PC in Android first if needed. It should allow TWRP to mount /data again.
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I've debated on doing this. I'm not worried about losing pictures texts etc as they're backed up.
I read that it essentially leaves the device with no OS. If that's wrong please let me know!

I have found that if I choose Slot A and reboot system it reboots me in to TWRP. If I choose Slot B it runs the OS like normal (except I still have issues using Facebook and it's services).
The ROM works and I can perform all the custom mods on it. I just want to flash a kernel and the problem persists. 0 mb in storage.
It's trial and error at this point. Fail fast fail forward. I have another phone I can use but I love the OnePlus. Any help will be appreciated!

https://andi34.github.io/faq/faq_twrp.html
I'm not willing to risk it until I know how to get the custom ROM on to the storage to flash it.

Yes formating by typing in yes will wipe it all,everything including pictures, with no rom on it at all. If u choose to do that, don't close twrp. Instead you should be able mount after wards, once mounted transfer the magisk zip, twrp, and your custom rom(has to be 1.5gb not 200mb through magisk). Flash magesik, install ram disk twrp, install rom. That was a method I've done before but if u want to keep everything there is other way
fastboot boot twrp.img, that command boots twrp if u have it or don't, installing to ram disk makes it permant...this boot command is just a one time thing each time. It's what I do when new firmware update, I loose root but I regain it each time

Never heard of formating data removing the OS, that would be if you wipe the system and normal wipe is like a factory data reset and therefore will not wipe your phone of the OS

djhulk2 said:
Yes formating by typing in yes will wipe it all,everything including pictures, with no rom on it at all. If u choose to do that, don't close twrp. Instead you should be able mount after wards, once mounted transfer the magisk zip, twrp, and your custom rom(has to be 1.5gb not 200mb through magisk). Flash magesik, install ram disk twrp, install rom. That was a method I've done before but if u want to keep everything there is other way
fastboot boot twrp.img, that command boots twrp if u have it or don't, installing to ram disk makes it permant...this boot command is just a one time thing each time. It's what I do when new firmware update, I loose root but I regain it each time
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I attempted to format. It said
"failed to mount /data (device or resource busy)
"unable to mount storage"

Try this in recovery, sometimes its known to work.
Wipe > Advanced Wipe > Check Data and press Repair or Change File System > Change File System > Change it to EXT2.
Repeat the same process selecting Ext4
Wipe > Advanced Wipe > Check Data and press Repair or Change File System > Change File System > Change it to back to EXT4.
Try formatting data after this.

drey4211 said:
I attempted to format. It said
"failed to mount /data (device or resource busy)
"unable to mount storage"
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Since you dont care about the data on the phone I would just do 1 of 2 things. 1st I would reflash twrp on to you phone if that doesn't work then I would just grab the fastboot ROM and just flash your phone back to full stock reroot and install twrp from scratch. I would not try to start repairing partitions. I wouldn't want to worry about screwing up the EFS partition

Well in an update, I formatted the
Storage and now I'm stuck in bootloader screen. It's unlocked but I'm having a hard time flashing a ROM through adb.

I use the twrp version 3.3.1-2
Best would be to just use fast command to boot it
But it should be under wipe/format data/then type in yes

That was what I was trying to have you avoid. If your can boot to fastboot download the fastboot ROM I told you to and run the flash-all.bat file. If your on 9.5.8 make sure you use the fastboot ROM of the same version. Do not flash azip of a different version firmware like 9.5.7.

It happens to me any time I'm in twrp and flash a rom then reflash twrp. It doesn't matter if I flash Magisk or not the issue always happens. What I do is use a USB C flash drive and plug it in when I want to flash/backup a rom. This way I can always access it. After flashing any rom then booting I'm always able to access my internal storage again. It seems like a bug in twrp.
The strange part is when this bug happens your files are encrypted in a 0 folder but you can still copy from your PC to your internal storage while in twrp.

I essentially soft bricked my device. Called OnePlus and they got me up and running. That's awesome that they have that service!

Are you removing all security? Pattern, pin and fingerprints? Are you decrypted? Never had an issue with flashing a ROM causing these issues which is why I'm asking. Something you've done at some point is causing this

I'm not sure what that was. Ironically enough I am now stuck in TWRP boot loop. Hopefully I can figure this out otherwise I have to call oneplus again.
I will admit I may not know everything but it's trial and error. I don't have anyone to really teach me this so I try to read the forums and learn. You guys have been great!

ajsmsg78 said:
It happens to me any time I'm in twrp and flash a rom then reflash twrp. It doesn't matter if I flash Magisk or not the issue always happens. What I do is use a USB C flash drive and plug it in when I want to flash/backup a rom. This way I can always access it. After flashing any rom then booting I'm always able to access my internal storage again. It seems like a bug in twrp.
The strange part is when this bug happens your files are encrypted in a 0 folder but you can still copy from your PC to your internal storage while in twrp.
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I've the same issue.. did you find a fix? So annoying

Question TWRP HELP

So I decided to install Xiaomi EU rom to my device, but after wiping data in TWRP it all goes to ****.
Firstly, Windows no longer recognize the internal storage, it's still there, but I can't copy files into it
Second;y, my TWRP internal data is 0mb, but after restoring that and rebooting twrp, the data is 0mb again and it forces to to do it all over again,
Does someone know a way to fix this issue?

I need a reply asap as I really need the phone

If only had done format data, reboot to system to get into MIUI, will take 5~10 minutes, done the initial setup, then the internal storage should be readable.
If still does not work, buy USBOTG or find a microSD card with sufficient storage to flash.
My guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4288121/post-85137963

BreadGyarados said:
So I decided to install Xiaomi EU rom to my device, but after wiping data in TWRP it all goes to ****.
Firstly, Windows no longer recognize the internal storage, it's still there, but I can't copy files into it
Second;y, my TWRP internal data is 0mb, but after restoring that and rebooting twrp, the data is 0mb again and it forces to to do it all over again,
Does someone know a way to fix this issue?
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Only solution is fastboot rom via MIFLASH in order to refresh partition mess.

lolo9393 said:
Only solution is fastboot rom via MIFLASH in order to refresh partition mess.
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so I need to do Miflash, another issue is that there's no system partition in the advanced wipe menu but it's stil there in the internal storage in install

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BreadGyarados said:
so I need to do Miflash, another issue is that there's no system partition in the advanced wipe menu but it's stil there in the internal storage in install
BreadGyarados said:
so I need to do Miflash, another issue is that there's no system partition in the advanced wipe menu but it's stil there in the internal storage in install
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that's the main issue can someone fix this please i beg you
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Hello, first of all tell me what version of TWRP you have installed?

twrp 3.5.2
felixpaz1992 said:
Hello, first of all tell me what version of TWRP you have installed?
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Hola, en primer lugar donde dime qué versión de TWRP tienes instalada.
BreadGyarados said:
twrp 3.5.2
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Personally, my TWRP gave me an error when trying to install Miui.eu, that's why from TWRP I installed Orange Fox and I was able to install EU, another thing is that twrp does not show you or mount the data partition since by default it comes in format F2fs, you would have to change the data file format to ext4 and go back to f2fs for twrp to work with that partition, which is also why your PC cannot copy files to internal memory

The published versions of TWRP are betas and it has problems with the format of the data partition since by default the Poco X3 Pro brings the f2fs format for data, so the only thing I can think of is that you have to format if or if data and change the partition format so that twrp recognizes it

felixpaz1992 said:
The published versions of TWRP are betas and it has problems with the format of the data partition since by default the Poco X3 Pro brings the f2fs format for data, so the only thing I can think of is that you have to format if or if data and change the partition format so that twrp recognizes it
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so I decided to replace the recovery twice and the phone is properly recognized now

You could use sideload to install rom btw. Otherwise, you could use the official beta orangefox recovery, iirc, it also recreate the partition if you attempt to use some of its feature.