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[Q] Disk reading/writing speed on my NS becoming slower and slower

Hi everyone,
I've been using my NS (not rooted) for 4 months straight without wiping the data on it, and now its reading and writing speed gets horribly slow. App updates become sluggish and sometimes fail, and some actions like searching contacts or moving apps from internal memory to sd now take much longer than they used to. Just wonder how I can fix this problem?
Thanks a lot!

Its possible your caches are quite large. 1-tap clean cache works good without root. Another possibility is your storage space is getting full. Unload some of that stuff onto a computer. Maybe you've got a boat load of apps installed. Uninstall stuff you don't use everyday or every other day. Maybe apps are slowing you down. There might be some cpu hogs or stuff that wants to run all the time. Another culprit is lots of small files in storage. When you boot, it scans the card and if there's lots of small files, its going to take awhile to scan them. Its doubtful but possible that the ram is going bad. That's my suggestions.

oscarthegrouch said:
Its possible your caches are quite large. 1-tap clean cache works good without root. Another possibility is your storage space is getting full. Unload some of that stuff onto a computer. Maybe you've got a boat load of apps installed. Uninstall stuff you don't use everyday or every other day. Maybe apps are slowing you down. There might be some cpu hogs or stuff that wants to run all the time. Another culprit is lots of small files in storage. When you boot, it scans the card and if there's lots of small files, its going to take awhile to scan them. Its doubtful but possible that the ram is going bad. That's my suggestions.
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Thanks for the reply oscarthegrouch! I usually clean app cache once in a while and the internal/external storage is only about 50% full. I think the problem might be that I installed many apps and always did app2sd when possible, which could create a lot of small files. I tried cut-and-paste the stuff on the external storage (as some sort of defragmentation) but it didn't really boost up the speed. And since my phone is not rooted I can't access the internal storage.
P.S. I installed way more apps on my iTouch and it didn't slow down like my NS. Got no idea why this whole problem is happening...

maybe it's a free memory issue ?
my device is always busy with kswapd0 and runs very slow than.

Memory issues?

Is anyone having trouble with pictures deleting or becoming unreadable?
I also had a app uninstall its self....

I have had 1 pic problem and a few SD card errors when I know I have 13gigs free. A retry on the download has helped with the app install though.

I downloaded camera zoom ex and when I take pics, usually the first file is unreadable. One recorded video did that as well. No issues with apps yet, lets hope it doesn't get worse.

mic_crispy said:
Is anyone having trouble with pictures deleting or becoming unreadable?
I also had a app uninstall its self....
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I haven't had anything with pictures, but I have had the erroneous "not enough room" error and apps have become broken (cannot launch..) and require an uninstall/reinstall. When this happens, in the list of applications, they don't have the "nice" application name, they have the real? name such as net.hexage.radiant.hd

I had installed a circle battery mod widget from the market and when i went to take a screenshot i got a r/o error. But ever since uinstalling said app its been fine.
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The attic is kind of weird when it comes to memory. Im thinking it mounts your external like internal and users the actual internal as internal. You have to get a third party file explorer to even see the internal memory. Kind of blows... But once you get used to it you work around it.
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So one of my apps that mysteriously uninstalled itself (but the icon remained) decided to start working again (i never bothered to reinstall it and just left the icon, but then it started working again). Weird.
And yeah, even pictures i took that "stayed" are now corrupt. We have memory issues.

mic_crispy said:
So one of my apps that mysteriously uninstalled itself (but the icon remained) decided to start working again (i never bothered to reinstall it and just left the icon, but then it started working again). Weird.
And yeah, even pictures i took that "stayed" are now corrupt. We have memory issues.
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I've noticed that the first picture I take is corrupted, I just have to take multiple pictures and everything turns out fine. I downloaded camera zoom fx and its 10x better than the stock camera app.

Do you find less issues using that app? Can it use the stock camera button?

mic_crispy said:
Do you find less issues using that app? Can it use the stock camera button?
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Loving this app, it has torch mode while taking pics... Helps the night shots a lot. Camera button works and it does a ton more than stock Moto cam app can do

Still having memory issues. Wouldnt save a single picture from my email or internet all day. "download unsuccessful" for web pics or "download failed" for email pics.
Pretty lame.

for those of you with issues, are you installing apps to sd card?
i'm thinking what it's doing is when you use apps2sd, it's mounts sdcard-ext as dynamic on the internal memory, but then redirects all sdcard items to sdcard-ext instead of /sdcard. ie apps2sd moves apps to /sdcard-ext and sizes that partition as needed (say 400mb apps, it sizes at 500mb). you take a pic, it goes to save it, but the system is now directing it to /sdcard-ext instead of /sdcard. it sees that there is only 500mb left and kicks it out or activates the low memory message.
if you're installing apps to the sdcard, turn off the phone, pull the microsd card out and pop it into your computer and see what's on it.
i also think that if you use a microsd card, you forfeit the entire 8gb internal storage.
then again, i could be wrong...

Ive been installing on the internal memory.
Thing is, some stuff saved on the memory card (ie from inet etc) will sometimes just become unreadable. This phone has some caching issues or something.
And judging by all the complaints etc, i doubt its a memory card issue.

ok, i removed my sdcard
storage still reads at 4.77GB internal
when i try to take a pic, it tells me to insert an sdcard.
8gb is a lot of space for apps lol 10k justin beiber fart soundboards

Jusy found this. I thik its basically saying the 8 gigs that are supposed to come built into the phone are already being used. Kinda dumb.... https://motorola-global-portal.cust...71812/~/internal-and-external-memory-(atrix-2)
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4gigs for apps is awesome! doesn't everyone need a couple thousand apps on their phone?and why in the world does a Linux based phone os need 4gigs of space?
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mtnlion said:
4gigs for apps is awesome! doesn't everyone need a couple thousand apps on their phone?and why in the world does a Linux based phone os need 4gigs of space?
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do you realize how many "talking [insert something stupid here]" apps and "[insert infamous person here] fart sound board" apps there are available?

This damn memory bug is really bothering me... i couldnt save a picture from gmail today to save my life. Failed. Failed. Failed. Cannot load.
I guess i can try a class 4 memory card? I have a 6 now... and with class 10 being out there, seems stupid that this would have issues with anything at all, much less a 6.

Have you tried pulling out your card and reformatting it?

No... i guess i could. Would just be a bit of a pain transferring my 16gb to the PC and back again, but ill give it a shot.
But at the end of the day, the phone does have memory issues, that more than likely be solved with an update, so thats good.

[Q] Where Is My Internal Storage?

Hi all,
I am using a stock ROM on my Inspire 4G. For some time now, I have been getting this message: "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low." I do have a lot of apps installed, but I have moved every movable app larger than 1MB onto my SD card, and I have continued to get the message. Today I reached the point where I cannot even upgrade an app. I am showing 70.34MB of available space.
I have searched Market for something that would tell me what's using all my storage, but everything I found is limited to external/SD card storage. Can anyone tell me what else I can do to most effectively recover some storage? What are the most likely culprits?
Thanks!

search the android market. Diskview.
not much else you can do without root access to that partition

I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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Barkt said:
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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4gb internal storage on specs and around 1gb is 'usable'.
However, OP's issue is that he's out of internal storage space. I do know that there have been issues with other devices where moving apps to sdcard still left a copy on the internal storage.
OP: Might consider doing a bit of data cleaning rather than app moving.

Even when you move apps to the SD card, it still leaves a little bit of the app in internal. So if you really have a lot of apps, you're going to have to remove something. Unless there is something else wrong. I have around 150 apps installed, with everything that can be put on SD put there, and I have around 650MB still available.

Thanks, everyone, for your replies. I've been really slow getting back to this because I've had other issues I've had to deal with. I did move absolutely every movable app onto the SD card, but it didn't help.
Wolamok, I had assumed I would have to remove some data, but what? I had about 2300 contacts, many of which were duplicates. While I was cleaning them up in Outlook, I decided to delete them ALL from my phone to see what memory I could free up.. A few contacts were repopulated from social media, but only 60 or 70. However, I 'me still out of of memory and getting notifications, and I still can't so much as upgrade an app.
I feel really stupid, because on my Pocket PCs and Windows Mobile devices, I knew exactly where to look for data and what to remove, but I feel totally lost here.
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
Any more ideas, anyone?
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I forgot to mention that while I appreciated the Diskview suggestion, I can't get it to run. I don't know if you my memory is too low to even do that, but it says it's analyzing the SD card and never finishes.
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MagicSpeller said:
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
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Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.

pazzo02 said:
Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. By the time I saw it, I had already gotten so frustrated I had followed you advice in advance. I deleted all the apps I'd installed and was going to try out "some day"--and yes, that included all the free Amazon games I'd never played!
I was surprised to see how much space was being used by apps that supposedly were on the SD card.
I hadn't thought of clearing cache and data, and I guess I'm too late for that now, but I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future.
Thanks again!

[Q] Best solution for memory space problems?

Hey everyone.
So, I'm using Slim Bean (but it also happened in other ROMs) and eventually my phone starts complaining about short memory space. I have an ext3 partition and use Link2SD but for some reason, after some time it complains and I can't even update my apps. Which is quite frustrating... So this was probably already asked but anyway, what is the best way to avoid this and have no issues whatsoever? I have a Class 6 8 GB memory card, so there shouldn't be an issue for apps storage.

Stone7 said:
Hey everyone.
So, I'm using Slim Bean (but it also happened in other ROMs) and eventually my phone starts complaining about short memory space. I have an ext3 partition and use Link2SD but for some reason, after some time it complains and I can't even update my apps. Which is quite frustrating... So this was probably already asked but anyway, what is the best way to avoid this and have no issues whatsoever? I have a Class 6 8 GB memory card, so there shouldn't be an issue for apps storage.
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In link2sd settings, move all 3 i.e. app, dex files and libraries to sdcard

Also, sometimes apps cache things on the system memory. You can find apps that help you clear up those caches and free up some space. Advance Mobile Care is a decent one that I've used.

ive also freed up 20-40mb just by clearing all mms sms messages.

Junior Einstein said:
In link2sd settings, move all 3 i.e. app, dex files and libraries to sdcard
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I already had that from the beginning...
a_loo said:
Also, sometimes apps cache things on the system memory. You can find apps that help you clear up those caches and free up some space. Advance Mobile Care is a decent one that I've used.
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Going to try that one then. Maybe it will help. Thanks.

a_loo said:
Also, sometimes apps cache things on the system memory. You can find apps that help you clear up those caches and free up some space. Advance Mobile Care is a decent one that I've used.
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Oh the irony. I can't install it because of low space and I already deleted some apps..

15gb used for system apps?

This cant be right surely?
None of the stock apps even add up to 15gb in my app settings. Anyway I can remove some without root? Waiting for twrp before I mess with this phone

My system apps say they're taking up 1.1. Somethings off there. Probably can't remove them without root if they're in /system.

crackedvenom2 said:
My system apps say they're taking up 1.1. Somethings off there. Probably can't remove them without root if they're in /system.
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My system is 1.1. but apps before anything is on the phone is 15gb and that dont make sense :/

Sturdyturdy said:
This cant be right surely?
None of the stock apps even add up to 15gb in my app settings. Anyway I can remove some without root? Waiting for twrp before I mess with this phone
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EDIT: The right and wrong info was reported in my post. It's my Z3Play that shows 13 GB. I know it's apple/oranges, but my Pixel 3a shows 1.1 GB. N5X shows 6.4 GB.
Apologies. This can happen when spending too much time involved with another device (MOTO Z3 Play). Being old doesn't help, either ?.

ritchea said:
Mine says 13 GB. I know it's apple/oranges, but my Pixel 3a shows 1.1 GB. N5X shows 6.4 GB.
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Even 13gb. The apps dont add up to that unless theres a 8gb hidden app :/

Sturdyturdy said:
Even 13gb. The apps dont add up to that unless theres a 8gb hidden app :/
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Agree.

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Sturdyturdy said:
This cant be right surely?
None of the stock apps even add up to 15gb in my app settings. Anyway I can remove some without root? Waiting for twrp before I mess with this phone
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Can you provide a screen cap of what you're seeing? She'd some light on where your system is saying "system apps using up 15Gb." Pie system files can add up to 16 or more GB. I do know LOS pie is about 16Gb for all system files

Uzephi said:
Can you provide a screen cap of what you're seeing? She'd some light on where your system is saying "system apps using up 15Gb." Pie system files can add up to 16 or more GB. I do know LOS pie is about 16Gb for all system files
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Before adding my apps. 'other apps' said 15gb and that was after a factory reset.

Sturdyturdy said:
Before adding my apps. 'other apps' said 15gb and that was after a factory reset.
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What happens when you tap "other apps" and use the menu option "show system"? It should sort by highest memory usage first.

Uzephi said:
What happens when you tap "other apps" and use the menu option "show system"? It should sort by highest memory usage first.
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Besides the obvious, is there anything here safe to delete. I bet over half of these i dont use.

Sturdyturdy said:
Besides the obvious, is there anything here safe to delete. I bet over half of these i dont use.
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I think I see the issue. It seems it is more of a space reporting error. A: it is odd system is only 1.1 GB. Attached is from LOS on a different phone. Most of the apps in your image don't show up for me because your space reporting is showing the files as apps instead of normal system stuff.

same issue here. the numbers don't even add up what is this bull****.
probably gonna return the phone. the breakdown's even more wack

You guys sure about that? I think it's telling you how much space each app is consuming for its data storage, NOT how much room the app itself (APK) occupies.
Apps require storage space beyond the app itself.

nickmv said:
You guys sure about that? I think it's telling you how much space each app is consuming for its data storage, NOT how much room the app itself (APK) occupies.
Apps require storage space beyond the app itself.
If you return your phone over something as petty as this, I can only wonder how many times you've returned iPhones.
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Yes, seems it is reporting something. The term storage in the screenshot implies what you state. Honestly, the system partiton is usually 16Gb or larger, so system apps "using 15Gb" could just be the remainder of the /system partiton. Android has to report that data as not user accessible. 1Gb and 15 GB does equal the system partition size of most P smart phones. I haven't bought my 3a yet, but will have one in a month to verify partitions.

Uzephi said:
Yes, seems it is reporting something. The term storage in the screenshot implies what you state. Honestly, the system partiton is usually 16Gb or larger, so system apps "using 15Gb" could just be the remainder of the /system partiton. Android has to report that data as not user accessible. 1Gb and 15 GB does equal the system partition size of most P smart phones. I haven't bought my 3a yet, but will have one in a month to verify partitions.
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It seems either way it is still an error as it should report that figure in system amd not apps.

Unstroofy said:
It seems either way it is still an error as it should report that figure in system amd not apps.
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Alright so this is interesting -- I just checked out my /system size in Root Explorer, and it's currently at 3.06GB.
Other Apps current size in settings? 18GB. That's 3GB over the 15 everyone sees. So the question is, where the heck is the 15GB coming from?

nickmv said:
Alright so this is interesting -- I just checked out my /system size in Root Explorer, and it's currently at 3.06GB.
Other Apps current size in settings? 18GB. That's 3GB over the 15 everyone sees. So the question is, where the heck is the 15GB coming from?
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Check /system_root folder...

Uzephi said:
Check /system_root folder...
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Well well well, looks like we've got our measurement formula for "Other apps", judging by those photos