Google Pixel Slate. Possible Replacement? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Have any Samsung NotePro 12 (Any Iteration) users bought, played, used, and/or tried the newest possible NotePro replacement moniker'd "Google Pixel Slate"?
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_slate
It appears that it may be the first possible replacement for our forgotten powerhouse tablet...
...At least, a replacement that doesn't have a piece of fruit tramp stamped on its backside...
...Although, that wasn't exactly a true option for most of us...
...What say you?

I don't see any pen there. Gotta have a pen.
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I don't see any pen there. Gotta have a pen.
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Check out the attached image - Pixel Slate has a pen.

I am still deeply impressed with the Samsung 12.2 Pro (P900 wifi) I have. Got it used a few years back for 300 bucks. Grabbed a used Logitech tablet and keyboard for it. Though I have an old but good Macbook pro 2010, a Dell Latitude 2011, a Lenovo T420S, and a few other odds and ends, for sheer using pleasure when surfing or even editing the Samsung wins.
But you are right. If I had a bit more money to play with, this baby does look like a worthy successor. Maybe in a few years when the shine wears off a bit and the price goes down.... that's how I roll.

shonkin said:
I am still deeply impressed with the Samsung 12.2 Pro (P900 wifi) I have. Got it used a few years back for 300 bucks. Grabbed a used Logitech tablet and keyboard for it. Though I have an old but good Macbook pro 2010, a Dell Latitude 2011, a Lenovo T420S, and a few other odds and ends, for sheer using pleasure when surfing or even editing the Samsung wins.
But you are right. If I had a bit more money to play with, this baby does look like a worthy successor. Maybe in a few years when the shine wears off a bit and the price goes down.... that's how I roll.
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Since my tablet met its horrible, but accidental, end I've been tabletless and searching for a new new or an new old tablet. I still have not figured out what to do. Buy the Google Slate or find a used 12.2. They can be had for about $200 locally. Humm... I need to find a place that has a demo. Any Google stores in Kansas? ?
That's rhetorical, I'll search...
Thank you for the input tho. I do still have the same Logitech keyboard/cover as you perchanced. So that might end up as a factor.

I have the i7 version and it's awesome.

Any other feedback, especially on note taking? @acadoid: do you know if LectureNotes works on it?

Found this feedback on LectureNotes on Pixel Slate: https://support.google.com/pixelslate/thread/869548?hl=en ; quoting: "LectureNotes run as slow as molasses to be unusable." As far as I understand, to make things nice and smooth on the Slate, the app has to use a different, low-level API. @acadoid, any plans to support the Slate?

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Tablets

I think of all the tablets available today, the HP Touchpad is the one I would choose. I got to play with a few tablets recently. Among them were the iPad, Moto Xoom, HTC Flyer, Blackberry Playbook, Huawei Ideos and the HP Touchpad. The newest Sammys weren't available. Nor were the Acers.
First off, the BB Playbook was the absolute worst of them all. It took 3 people to accidentally figure out how to delete a picture. Whilst messing with it trying to navigate around the UI, I snapped a picture of myself and wanted it off the system. I looked and looked and looked and finally called one of the store associates to assist. After he played with it for a long time, he called another store associate. The second associate played with it for a very long time also and then accidentally figured it out. We all went through every menu we could find and the answer was a simple downward swipe from the top of the LCD frame.
This brought back memories of my experience with a BB phone. No friggin way would I buy a damn BB tablet.
The rest of the tablets were sweet. The HTC Flyer was super smooth and gorgeous. The Xoom is old news. And the iPad is tired. I was really surprised by the Huawei tablet. It's so inexpensive, yet it works really well. Nevertheless, I love WebOS and my play time with the HP tablets was great. It worked flawlessly and smoothly and has that excellent multitask system. Plus I love the style, size and shape.
When the Sammys come out, I'll give them a try also and see it they can best the HP.
I'm liking the xoom. A keyboard and a mouse and I can ditch the MacBook.
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I have been using Droid ROMS, MODS and kernels since the G1.
OG Galaxy Tab
I have the OG Galaxy tab and it rocks honeycomb pretty well. By 2 year old loves netflix so I'm happy.
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OG Galaxy as in the 7 inch version. Honeycomb is on thru a custom ROM.
When I was in the market for a tablet I took a look at the xoom, playbook, iconia, and the transformer. The xoom was off the list because it was out of my price range. The playbook, I could not find the back button do that was it. It came down to the iconia and transformer, and I chose the iconia because of the full sized usb port and flash on the back.
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This brought back memories of my experience with a BB phone. No friggin way would I buy a damn BB tablet.
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also that in order to get e-mail on the thing you need to be linked up via bluetooth with another phone.
i went to check one out, was in a game when i did, looking all over for the exit button, took me and another employee 20 minutes just to figure it out, swipe up....yeah, lets not put softkeys on it like we do with our phone, nah, no menu, a FRIGGAN SWIPE MOTION!, i can't blame them for trying to be inovative, but the "physical buttons" for the playbook are so small that someone would need a stylus just to press the friggin' buttons.
it has flash, and 1080p playback....yet the camera on it sucks.
RIM, try harder next time.
I don't have a tablet. But I would like one!
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also that in order to get e-mail on the thing you need to be linked up via bluetooth with another phone.
i went to check one out, was in a game when i did, looking all over for the exit button, took me and another employee 20 minutes just to figure it out, swipe up....yeah, lets not put softkeys on it like we do with our phone, nah, no menu, a FRIGGAN SWIPE MOTION!, i can't blame them for trying to be inovative, but the "physical buttons" for the playbook are so small that someone would need a stylus just to press the friggin' buttons.
it has flash, and 1080p playback....yet the camera on it sucks.
RIM, try harder next time.
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The store I was at had a couple Playbooks on display at different areas of the store and the first one I came to had a non-functional small round button on the top...the button about the size of a bb pellet. I didn't know it didn't function; that it was damaged, and figured it was some sort of LED indicator. On the second Paybook, which was fully functional, if I hadn't pressed that little round button by accident to turn on the device, I never would have figured out how to power it on because I attributed that round button as an indicator or something of that nature. I wouldn't have intentionally pressed it.
The Playbook is typical BB B.S. I had the same experience with my BB phone. I spent 90% of my time trying to find stuff on it than I did just using it. No wonder BB is in the crapper these days.
I went with a Transformer. I did some research too. I will say this that playing with a unit in the store and taking it home and using it for a week or two is a huge difference. I am sure you can make some basic decisions based on your likes and dislikes, To heavy dont like how it feels in your hand etc, but nothing takes the place of good ole fashioned "Use it". I wrote a pretty long article regarding my purchase and my decisions tree in the transformer forums, as there are a lot of "Can the Asus Transformer replace my netbook/laptop" threads on a lot of different forums and i wanted to put my thoughts out there as well. I will find the link and link it. But in short the basic answer is it depends. I know not the best answer and not the one you were looking for but its the truth.
Here is my post its long but might be worth a read if you are trying to decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15679836#post15679836
I am very happy with the transformer and in my post i give the reasons i chose it.
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we have the xoom here. not sure how we like it yet. can't get it to root. or rather can't find a walkthrough that doesn't assume you already have certain things installed on your computer. not their fault. it's the xooms for me needing to root to actually use all it's features.
i have the galaxy 10.1 its so dirty i love it. slim, light, and fast
Apple suxxx but by the way, I prefer the iPad 2 !
I prefer the 7 inch tablet, but there aren't any good ones. The best 10 inch is the sammy sung tab 10.1.
It down right makes all the other tabs look like s**t. Samsung did a GREAT job on the screen. I like the feel of the thrive but it's screen sucks. The ipad seemed heavy but I do like its keyboard. The touchpad and playbook are the worst. the iconia is pretty ugly. The xoom feels nice but has a bad screen in my opinion. Tab 10.1 is best then xoom or ipad.
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I am using Apple i pad. Its features processing speed durability awesome.
Some tablets are truly great in the niche such as Xoom, Transformer and Ironia, but seems that it's still no one is good enough to beat the iPad. At least for me, I have to admit the using experience is really fantastic on iPad.
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I am using Apple i pad. Its features processing speed durability awesome.
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skydeve said:
Some tablets are truly great in the niche such as Xoom, Transformer and Ironia, but seems that it's still no one is good enough to beat the iPad. At least for me, I have to admit the using experience is really fantastic on iPad.
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Yeah, I agree. The iPad is a powerful and well engineered tablet. But it lacks the high res display I desire and this makes it tired for me. I'm spoiled by the Retina display of my iPhone 4. There just isn't a display as good as the Retina display. If Apple puts an equivalent display in the next iPad, that would solve the tired problem.
i am waiting samsung tab 10.1 or sony
I have the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and it rocks, so fast and easy to use.
I bought my 8 yr. old daughter a Velocity Micro Cruz. I sent that same POS back 2 weeks later. She is only 8 so I'm not looking to spend mega bucks and I don't buy anything made by Apple. I am thinking of getting her the Gen 9 Archos 8in tablet when it arrives in a few months. The Cruz isn't a bad tablet for the price point but it simply has too little internal memory. It constantly froze on us. It is great looking hardware, nice looking screen and a little heavy. Also, not having the genuine Android Market or XDA-Dev support was a killer. I came to realize I have no love for Android in it's current state (2.3 and below as I haven't used or seen a Honeycomb tablet yet). As a long time Windows Mobile user Android still reminds me of an incomplete and immature version of Windows Mobile that is more popular but not more effective. I am disappointed in this realization, especially when 90% of the tablets out there worth their salt, hardware wise, are Android based.
To be fair, I actually played with my friend's IPad II also. When I say played with, I mean sat there and used it for 2-3 hours to see if it could impress me. The answer is no. It's a $600 POS. What's scary is the Velocity Mirco Cruz was $179 total and the $400 or so price difference really doesn't show when it comes to using the damn things. The Ipad was lighter, faster and didn't freeze (because it has enough damn internal memory), but like every other damn Apple product it is limited and constricted. I swear if the Cruz had more internal memory it would have been 200x more effective than that Apple pos. Transferring information was easier. Using it as a part of my current environment was easier (HD2, Windows 7 laptop, Windows Vista PC). When I used the Dolphin browser it worked excellent (as did Safari). Basically the only satisfying experience I had on the Ipad was the Youtube application and the only thing that made it better than what I get on my HD2 is the screen size. Beyond that it has nothing on my 2 year old phone. Apple smapple.
I don't expect the HP or BB tablets to last very long in this market so I'm hoping Microsoft comes out with a viable tablet OS (which is rumored) and it doesn't actually disappoint me the way everything else has. Knowing I won't be able to replace the Cruz for under $200 I upped the ante to $300 and it looks like Archos is going to slide in with the gen 9's. Hopefully I won't remain disappointed.

What is the best tablet for me?

With Christmas fast approaching, I originally planned on purchasing myself an upgrade to my 2 year-old laptop. Yet, besides gaming which I am for the most part not particularly bothered about and can easily do still on the family PC, Xbox 360 or through OnLive, my current system proves more than capable for almost everything I can through at it - even if a bit slow on more laborious tasks such as video rendering (something which I have done only about three times in an entire two year period). Now, whilst this isn't a definitive decision, I think it may be nice to purchase a tablet for use downstairs as I dislike having to carry my laptop up and down to/from my room all the time especially when I want to just do a bit of light web browsing. Whilst the most obvious choice might be the Nexus 7 for most people, I own a Galaxy Note (which has a large 5.3" screen) and it is because of this that I don't see a 7" tablet as a worthy investment for such a measly increase in screen size. So, what do people here feel to be the best 10" tablet (so long as it will be publicly available in the UK by Christmas 2012)?
Brad387 said:
With Christmas fast approaching, I originally planned on purchasing myself an upgrade to my 2 year-old laptop. Yet, besides gaming which I am for the most part not particularly bothered about and can easily do still on the family PC, Xbox 360 or through OnLive, my current system proves more than capable for almost everything I can through at it - even if a bit slow on more laborious tasks such as video rendering (something which I have done only about three times in an entire two year period). Now, whilst this isn't a definitive decision, I think it may be nice to purchase a tablet for use downstairs as I dislike having to carry my laptop up and down to/from my room all the time especially when I want to just do a bit of light web browsing. Whilst the most obvious choice might be the Nexus 7 for most people, I own a Galaxy Note (which has a large 5.3" screen) and it is because of this that I don't see a 7" tablet as a worthy investment for such a measly increase in screen size. So, what do people here feel to be the best 10" tablet (so long as it will be publicly available in the UK by Christmas 2012)?
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Like I said. Android browser is twice as slow as a regular one. Flash is no more. And you can't really do much. Typing is also a *****. That's why I said browsing on a tablet sucks.
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Actually, I don't mind typing on a touchscreen keyboard. Plus, web browsing is not all I do on my Galaxy Note and what I would also do on a tablet. There is gaming, music, videos and ebooks.
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Besides, I thought there were ways to get Flash working on 4.1 Jelly Bean.
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What are some of the bests 10 inch tabs regardless?
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Any prime series. The new note 10.1 is nice. 200$ gtab 10.1 is still viable. But in the android game its mostly all Transformer prime/infinity. Toshiba excites are high end, but expensive.
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Any prime series. The new note 10.1 is nice. 200$ gtab 10.1 is still viable. But in the android game its mostly all Transformer prime/infinity. Toshiba excites are high end, but expensive.
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Well, having owned a Note 5.3 phone, I do like Samsung's S-Pen and various software. The Note 10.1 might be a nice option then, but I believe it is rather expensive for not all that great a specification unless I am mistaken?
motorola xoom
Motorola Xoom is a good tablet, it should be good choice for you but dont buy motorola xoom 2 because of shortage roms.
Wait on windows 8 tablets. They will be much better then android or ios tablets!
Brad387 said:
Well, having owned a Note 5.3 phone, I do like Samsung's S-Pen and various software. The Note 10.1 might be a nice option then, but I believe it is rather expensive for not all that great a specification unless I am mistaken?
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The note 2 does have good specs, but with the infinity out, that right now is the best. But the note does have benefits as in touchwiz, touchwiz apps, all the S software, and the pen.
I'd say if you have the money, get Surface Pro or RT or any other Windows Tablet. Im afraid that you won't be satisfied of the x86 tablets battery life, well you could buy something cheap now and wait for new Intel processors, which should reduce power usage by many times. New CPU's are coming next year, and that should mean more battery life for Windows tablets.
If not "metro" then...
From android side, Nexus 7 or Transformer Prime Infinity. Seems like the 3rd branch of Nexus 7 is out and should elimante the screen prbolems many people had.
Or you could always get everybodys favorite, the iPad Although I would not recommend buying ipad right before christmas. Few months after new year new comes out and you'rse would be old.
All in all, if you have the money, buy Nexus 7 now and look for x86 tablet next year (or RT if the app store has envolved)
Nexus 7 is good
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Nexus 7 is good
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Did you even both to read my opening post? Plus, for me, the Nexus 7 is awful. The lack of expandable storage and screen size only slight larger than my Galaxy Note make it actually a step-down from my phone.
ka-la said:
I'd say if you have the money, get Surface Pro or RT or any other Windows Tablet. Im afraid that you won't be satisfied of the x86 tablets battery life, well you could buy something cheap now and wait for new Intel processors, which should reduce power usage by many times. New CPU's are coming next year, and that should mean more battery life for Windows tablets.
If not "metro" then...
From android side, Nexus 7 or Transformer Prime Infinity. Seems like the 3rd branch of Nexus 7 is out and should elimante the screen prbolems many people had.
Or you could always get everybodys favorite, the iPad Although I would not recommend buying ipad right before christmas. Few months after new year new comes out and you'rse would be old.
All in all, if you have the money, buy Nexus 7 now and look for x86 tablet next year (or RT if the app store has envolved)
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The RT version of Surface is not to my tastes, as it won't have nowhere near as many apps available as Android has come its launch. The Pro version of Surface, which runs a full version of Windows, is effectively just a very compact laptop in my eyes. Besides, I dislike Windows 8 greatly. The "Metro" UI (which is going to be renamed) is unappealing and the lack of a full desktop is worrying. As for a Nexus 7, no storage and a screen only slightly larger than my phone don't make it worth my time.
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The note 2 does have good specs, but with the infinity out, that right now is the best. But the note does have benefits as in touchwiz, touchwiz apps, all the S software, and the pen.
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The Note 10.1 is not the Note 2. The Note 2 is the new version of the Note 5.3 and is a phone. The Note 10.1 is a tablet. It is just called a Note because it is part of a new range of devices which utilise the S-Pen, which is Samsung's version of a capacitive stylus.
I own an ipad but somehow i never felt a tablet to be of much use. But if you need to buy one, the galaxy note 10.1 seems impressive. But certain you tube videos shows that it is lagging in responsiveness in multitasking. You might want to check you tube videos to get an idea. But if you are not a S pen guy then you can get the galaxy tab much cheaper.
I won't personally recommend 7 in tablets.
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Apple ipad!!!
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Yes being an iPad owner I know it is the best tablet around. Just didn't recommend that since I don't see it as a great value for the money spent, at least for me. I still prefer my lap for anything like booking movie tickets, online shopping etc. IPad is only for my news reading and you tube. My galaxy s2 is great for emails and fb too.
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The RT version of Surface is not to my tastes, as it won't have nowhere near as many apps available as Android has come its launch. The Pro version of Surface, which runs a full version of Windows, is effectively just a very compact laptop in my eyes. Besides, I dislike Windows 8 greatly. The "Metro" UI (which is going to be renamed) is unappealing and the lack of a full desktop is worrying. As for a Nexus 7, no storage and a screen only slightly larger than my phone don't make it worth my time.
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Are you sure you need a tablet? If the Windows 8 Surface Pro is not tablet-y enough for you and you have a nice big Note, I doubt that there's much need to drop your hard earned money on something that brings limited value to you. It seems like an investment in a new ultra/air type laptop that is not a pain to lug around might be a better solution.
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The Note 10.1 is not the Note 2. The Note 2 is the new version of the Note 5.3 and is a phone. The Note 10.1 is a tablet. It is just called a Note because it is part of a new range of devices which utilise the S-Pen, which is Samsung's version of a capacitive stylus.
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Thats what I meant to say...

Your opinions on the tablet

Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
aycn602 said:
Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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The later generations are typically better, and there are typically later generations coming out all the time, so if you wait for the note 2 10.1, you will find some issues that will be improved on with the note 3 and so on, or some other device. That is how things work and progress, so it really depends on how much money you have if you are able to continue buying the latest and greatest every 6 months or so and want to take the time to get everything set up again. I figure I'll be fine with this one for a couple years and then upgrade a generation or so down the line or go to something else that becomes better. It is never ending as technology is constantly improving and methods for development are always improving and changing.
In order for companies to have money and staff for their proper research and development, people need to purchase their products on the market now and invest that way.
I am perfectly happy with my Note 10.1. I would suspect the Note 10.1 v2 won't be out until late next summer so you have to decide if you want to wait that long go for it.
As for improvements to this I would be curious what you think needs major improvement, so much so you would return this. I am actually quite impressed with the software on this. I have a Galaxy Nexus and Xoom both with Jellybean so I was a little hesitant getting a non Nexus device but I must say Samsung has done a pretty good job with this OS, even TouchWiz is pretty good. While we are promised Jellybean soon, and I am fairly confident we will get Key Lime Pie, I doubt we will see anything after that unless the dev community is able to make it happen. As of now I am good with this because the tablet is good enough not to need much more from the OS.
Speed and responsiveness thanks to the quad core and 2 Gb of RAM is impressive. Unlike the Tegra2 in my Xoom, I believe this hardware will hold up well for the next 2 years of app development. Even with Jellybean on the Xoom, the Note 10.1 with ICS is much smoother (thanks its internals).
All this to say I am very happy with this tablet.
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aycn602 said:
Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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It's kind of a bad comparison you're making. The Note 10.1 is the equivalent of the SGS3 and Note II both h/w and s/w wise. The OG Note I was equivalent to the SGS2 and OG G-Tab 10.1. Samsung sold only 700K OG G-Tab 10.1’s in the U.S. after spending $500K marketing them and distributing them via the U.S. carriers. That’s pretty pitiful considering it was deemed the most compelling Android tablet on the market and the best alternative to the iPad. All the Android tablet makers are also now making W8 tablets. Depending on their success with W8 you may see them greatly reduce or pull out of the Android tablet market completely.
This article talks about Android tablets in a post-W8 tablet world…
"I think [productivity-focused Android tablets] are going to fade away," says Rob Enderle, the principal analyst of the Enderle Group, summing up the group consensus. "I think we'll see Windows convertibles and hybrids pick up that category. The keyboard really goes with Office."
The analysts I contacted also agree that Windows tablets will quickly gobble up Android's market share in the premium-priced tablet segment. Dropping $500 or more on a 10.1-inch Android tablet requires a lot more deliberation than spending $200 on a 7-inch Google Nexus 7. For this reason, analysts believe, consumers will flock toward the more seamless (and less glitchy) Windows experience when going for a big-screen (and non-iPad) tablet.
But will Android tablets vanish entirely? Most of the experts I spoke with don't think so. Excluding Forrester's Rotman Epps, most analysts expect Android tablets to be around for the long haul, albeit in a niche role that focuses on low prices and media playback.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012231/is-windows-8-an-existential-threat-to-android-tablets.html​
The only thing I think that the note misses:
A working and reliable office clone, with the ability to ink
A note taking program that records audio, as it takes not. Like livescribe does, or onenote does. I was quite suprised to find that this doesnt exist in android yet.
A keyboard accessory, that works like a clam. A tranformer type keyboard would be fabulous
Otherwise I think the Note 10.1 is fabulous
Yup. I agree with the others. You're trying to decide if you should own the best android tablet or nothing?. The Note 10.1 stands out in front of the other tablets. So it your looking for the best tablet, this is it. Don't wait.
If you really would like to upgrade when the next model comes out, I would keep the Note 10.1 until then.
I agree, this is by far the best tablet on the market.
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What you did not mention is what is that you do not like in the note.
Samsung has given note hardware that is not required at present like 2gb of ram one of the reasons for doing so is to make it future proof upto a certain extent, I belive a life of a laptop is 3 years, cellphone and tablet may be around 2 years and with period I think note would be good enough.
Yes the screen resolution on PAPER looks like it needs improvement but that was I think to keep price down because of the Spen.
But overall I believe its a great tablet.
One thing I can challeng no other tablet can do or will do for a long time to come is write a mail using spen believe me my handwriting on a scale to 1-10 is 1 and still it recognises it and thats something awesome
Thanks for all your responses! My biggest worry / problem with this tablet is to build quality. Overall, for a 500+dollar tablet I feel like its overall aesthetics aren't as sleek nor seem as durable as it should be. [really didn't mind the plastic build on my note phone but I guess a tablet it does seem a little cheap. Secondly, I think the biggest improvement can and will be made in themulti-app functionality. I enjoy the experience of it right now but it is not truly a polished function of Samsung's feature. Included should be hOw S- memo functions. LastIy the biggest disappointments Come from Polaris. I use a bluetooth keyboard to really Use my tablet as a laptop replacement for small tasks such as organising class notes. But I often am frustrated with how Polaris functions. Though the merit of the tablet is its s-pen the inability to be productiveWith a keyboard on Polaris makes me wonder if I should seriously consider Windows...
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I think you have formed an opinion against the note if you think polaris is not good enough you can look at other office apps on market place spend few extra buck or dl it from sites
Looks are concerned well once in case they wont matter but I have the bluish grey like the one on SG3 and I love how the back looks but again I have case so its not visible. but then its onces taste. I feel looks wise tablet may not win awards but its not an ugly duckling either. its a look samsung has gone with for all its mobile devices so whether you like it or hate it you have to live with it
After owning the first Galaxy Tab, Asus Transformer and the Galaxy Tab 7.7 the 10.1 note is without a doubt the one i have enjoyed and used the most. The screen resolution is a slight let down after the 7.7 but everything else is best on the market at present so this is a keeper. Good for media and useful for business.
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aycn602 said:
Hello,
I've had the tablet for about a month now (8010). I really love it. But I am sure many of you will agree that there is alot of room for feasible improvement. This was how I felt about the galaxy note phone that I currently have as well. Accordingly, I feel that when the galaxy note 2 10.1 tablet comes out... it will have significant OS improvements that will make it much better.... Only for this reason am I considering returning the product just to be more patient for the second generation... your thoughts?
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I think u should wait for the tablet that will launch in 2040... it would be perfect. Would have a full frame prismless dslr integrated, will be able to change physical shape, will have quantum computing cpu, 12800 ppi display, ffc (far field communication chip, allowing u to beam photos from distant planets without internet) and will be powered by a nuclear fusion cells that can outlast human life span on one single charge!
But in order to pass this time till next big thing comes... buy note 10.1. It brings a smile on my face everyday! Hopefully it will give u same joy!
Enjoy the journey!
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smrsxn said:
I think u should wait for the tablet that will launch in 2040... it would be perfect. Would have a full frame prismless dslr integrated, will be able to change physical shape, will have quantum computing cpu, 12800 ppi display, ffc (far field communication chip, allowing u to beam photos from distant planets without internet) and will be powered by a nuclear fusion cells that can outlast human life span on one single charge!
But in order to pass this time till next big thing comes... buy note 10.1. It brings a smile on my face everyday! Hopefully it will give u same joy!
Enjoy the journey!
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This is good stuff. Personally I love this thing and I use it to about 1/10th of its ability. It's fast, smooth, and there is so much to it that I'm just enjoying reading and researching this thing. The great thing about this, and android in general, is options. We have lots of options.
I am always amazed about complaints, particularly in the cell phone arena. People have completely forgotten its a damn phone. If you want a super computer, well go buy one. Same can be said for the tablet market. If you are working on some complicated excel sheet, and you get pissed because something gets corrupted or something, chances are, you should be probably using your computer for that excel sheet that is mission critical for your 8am meeting. Don't get mad cause some formula driven excel sheet got corrupted why you tried to edit or create it on your tablet
My last rant will be about one of my iSheep friends who I let play with it. He held it, turned vertically, then horizontally, then vertically again, repeat a few more times etc. He snapped a couple pictures, then handed it back to me after 45 seconds and said, "this thing is terrible...its clunky and awkward". I looked at him, shook my head, and did the best sheep imitation I could muster. That cult is more then I can handle.
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[Q] Buying a Tab 2 10.1 Tomorrow. Any reasons not to?

Hi!
In order to study a little better and browse/mail too, I finally decided to get a tablet. After discarding the iPad because I get frustrated after a while using it, I was going for the Note 10.1 but I won't be needing a good stylus anymore and I'm way more comfortable using a "cheaper" 330€ tablet than a 500€ one, so the only option left is the Tab 2 10.1 with the pretty nice pop up apps that compensates the lack of MultiWindow (which I hate in my Galaxy S2) (I'm not considering a tablet without good customization like Touchwiz. I want the S-Calendar and in a tablet, plain Android is kind of boring.)
So I wanted to ask if you guys told me not to buy it for any reasons. Or maybe you encourage me even more!
PS: Won't use it for games. I just need decent smoothness and good battery, which I'm pretty sure I'll get with the P5110.
Thanks!
Within 8 months: Motorola Xoom, Kindle Fire, Nexus 7, SGT 7.
I use for reading books, PDA, GPS in car, listening to music and rarely a camera. A 10" tablet was too clumsy for me to hold in one hand and the GPS too large to use while driving.
When you go to buy shop around for your 10 choice. There were many deals a couple of weeks ago.
BTW, I found if you don't like what you get the used market is brisk and you can get back most of what you pay.
I genuinely cannot fault this tablet. Bought it about 2 months ago on an impulse buy. Set me back £230 and honestly one of the best purchases I've ever made. It does everything you want from a tablet plus more. The jellybean update just reiterates how good the tablet is for the price. There is very little to no lag, The screen is absolutely amazing, speakers are fantastic. If you want a speedy android tablet for an absolute bargain, definitely get one. All i want now is multiscreen!
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I genuinely cannot fault this tablet. Bought it about 2 months ago on an impulse buy. Set me back £230 and honestly one of the best purchases I've ever made. It does everything you want from a tablet plus more. The jellybean update just reiterates how good the tablet is for the price. There is very little to no lag, The screen is absolutely amazing, speakers are fantastic. If you want a speedy android tablet for an absolute bargain, definitely get one. All i want now is multiscreen!
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Yeah MultiWindow would be great...
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Within 8 months: Motorola Xoom, Kindle Fire, Nexus 7, SGT 7.
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So, wait 8 months for something "better" knowing that 8 moths from that time there will be a list of "even better" devices. They cycle never ends. There is no way to stay ahead of the curve; except to buy every device.
But more to the point, you other comments are valid. For straight up reading the 10 inch is a tad cumbersome.
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antonio1475 said:
Hi!
So I wanted to ask if you guys told me not to buy it for any reasons. Or maybe you encourage me even more!
PS: Won't use it for games. I just need decent smoothness and good battery, which I'm pretty sure I'll get with the P5110.
Thanks!
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I've had my 10.1 for a couple of months and I couldn't be happier with it. So far, I use it for social stuff, reading and movies and have no complaints at all. Running AOKP JB. No complaints at all.
I already have it since a few hours. It's great. A little bit laggy with 4.0.3 but I'm going to update to JB right now
Thank you
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antonio1475 said:
So I wanted to ask if you guys told me not to buy it for any reasons. Or maybe you encourage me even more!
PS: Won't use it for games. I just need decent smoothness and good battery, which I'm pretty sure I'll get with the P5110.
Thanks!
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It's a bit of a toss up imo. first of all, it isn;t cheap, although for comparable models it is great imo, and for what it is, it is great imo. being a tablet.
My assessment is it has reasonable power for comparable tablets, it is imo way better than a IPAD, even a 3, though the screen and camera are not as good, the apple is just annoying on almost all levels, imo. I am just getting into rooting it and the benefits that come along with that (And being careful to try to steer away from the bans of it.) and I am quite satisfied with my GT-P5113. which is the 16 GB, wifi only. I use VOIP, remotely control my systems and use my file servers for the heavier lifting from the tablet, and it goes pretty flawlessly. I also occasionally play some games, though honestly most are lower end at this stage for the tablet I think, there are still decent ones. same with applications....If I want to edit video/etc, I'll do it on my main systems, or remotely on my main systems from my tablet.
That being said, it is pretty good for music, ok, for playing videos after converting to a reasonable format, and imo excellent for reading ebooks of all types. I like the larger screen rather than the smaller ones frankly. it IS unwieldy, but a hand puck (simply a small puck to attach to the middle of the back. I made mine, but I believe they make them, and mines attached by velcro, for easy removing. scratchy side on the puck.) removes that problem, imo. (It also allows me to attach it to my car's dash and motocycle also.) anyways, I do not know any reason not to buy it, really, unless you want to spend way more money than the others are worth imo. It works. and it works well imo.
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It's a bit of a toss up imo. first of all, it isn;t cheap, although for comparable models it is great imo, and for what it is, it is great imo. being a tablet.
My assessment is it has reasonable power for comparable tablets, it is imo way better than a IPAD, even a 3, though the screen and camera are not as good, the apple is just annoying on almost all levels, imo. I am just getting into rooting it and the benefits that come along with that (And being careful to try to steer away from the bans of it.) and I am quite satisfied with my GT-P5113. which is the 16 GB, wifi only. I use VOIP, remotely control my systems and use my file servers for the heavier lifting from the tablet, and it goes pretty flawlessly. I also occasionally play some games, though honestly most are lower end at this stage for the tablet I think, there are still decent ones. same with applications....If I want to edit video/etc, I'll do it on my main systems, or remotely on my main systems from my tablet.
That being said, it is pretty good for music, ok, for playing videos after converting to a reasonable format, and imo excellent for reading ebooks of all types. I like the larger screen rather than the smaller ones frankly. it IS unwieldy, but a hand puck (simply a small puck to attach to the middle of the back. I made mine, but I believe they make them, and mines attached by velcro, for easy removing. scratchy side on the puck.) removes that problem, imo. (It also allows me to attach it to my car's dash and motocycle also.) anyways, I do not know any reason not to buy it, really, unless you want to spend way more money than the others are worth imo. It works. and it works well imo.
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Too much imo, imo.

[Q] Surface Pro 2 Vs Note Pro 12.2

I have been a fan of the note series for some time now, ever since I got the note 2 phone. Then the note 10;1, and the note 8.0. Finally getting the cash lined up for a note 10.1 2014 and the 12.2 gets announced. So, now I am waiting for a couple days for the note pro to be available in the store to purchase.
My questions is about the choice between the Surface Pro 2 and the Note 12.2
I know that a great deal of things relies on individual needs and preferences, but I want to see where everyone sits.
If you have the chance, would you buy a Note 12.2 or a Surface Pro 2. Assuming same cost.
For me, I wouldn't mind going with a surface pro 2, but I would be tempted to stretch my funds and go with a 256gb model just to get the 8gb ram, then would nee a keyboard for it, pushing my budget pretty high. The note 12.2 is still a high cost device, but cheaper than the Surface Pro 2.
My viewpoint is looking like this:
Reasons for Surface Pro 2
Better CPU
Actual computer with full fledged programs
I can install and play my steam games (really mostly concerned with RTS games since I have my high end gaming laptop with me for higher end games.
Reasons for Note Pro 12.2
Higher Res and better display
Easier use of stylus for notes, drawing, and random functions,
Android and better "mobile" OS.
My big uses for either device would be for Stylus use, consuming content like netflix, and general connectivity for everything.
Thoughts?
Surface Pro 2
I too strongly considered the Surface Pro, and the SP2, for my mobile computing needs. And as you said, it really is all about how you're going to use it. My issue is that it's really almost too much computer for a 10" tablet form factor, and usability suffers for this. In other words, I found it too bulky, heavy, and the screen was simply too small to be able to actually use that power to be productive.
When I'd sit down to type either at a desk or on the couch, it was rather difficult to do so for any length of time, while remaining comfortable. I'd just end up using it as a tablet only. In which case, it was just a little too heavy and bulky for extended use. And I wasn't even remotely using the power of the i-core CPU like this. Which seemed like a waste of such an expensive device.
So I thought I'd try games. I quickly found that it was either wasn't powerful enough for the games I wanted to play and/or the screen was too small.
Basically, I just couldn't find a good use case scenario where it made sense to spend that kind of money on the SP1 or SP2. For me, a larger Ultrabook or a more traditional tablet made more sense. Combining the two just didn't work.
Galaxy Note Pro 12.2
I of course haven't used the Note Pro tablet, but from what I've seen it looks like it might actually work for my needs. I know it's expensive "for an android tablet." But for a 12.2" portable computing device, it's almost a bargain. Well, maybe not a "bargain," and there isn't exactly any real competition for it; at least until others jump on board.
First, it's still relatively light weight for it's size. Find me another 12" device running around 1.6 lb, let alone at this price point. Add that to expected tablet-like battery life, portability, nice screen, new launcher, top-end tablet specs, and I think it looks very promising. Well, at least on paper. I'll have to judge that for myself when I get it. If the software and hardware fail, I probably will have to revisit the ultrabook idea. I just didn't want to spend that kind of money right now.
And the most important part is what I'm going to use it for. No, I'm not going to write a book on it. Not expecting to play BF4 or SC2. Don't need it to fit in a pocket. I've got a 5.7" phone, high-end multi-monitor workstation, and 15" notebook for those tasks. I just want something relatively portable to use when traveling, in a vehicle, in a plane, use at work, or even on the couch. If I'm leaving the house with it, just like a 10" tablet, it's going in a bag on it's own, or with my notebook and it's larger bag.
Then it needs to play videos, music, surf the web, and even handle the occasional high-end android game. I'll probably give some light on-the-go productivity a try on it. But like I said, a notebook with a real keyboard is always going to make far more sense.
Mine gets here Friday. Still hoping it works out! :good:
First of all it depends on what do you do and what you need your tablet for . As i know its a personal reference to choose which fit your needs so am just going to share mine so it may help you figure out which suits you or which is a better deal.
I am a Junior architect and for powerful tasks i prefer using a desktop or a powerful laptop as thats where you can do real job on a real wide space but when it comes to a tablet category you choose something that can just give you the ability to edit those projects you did on your desktop or laptop and since tablets to us is a real multi-consumption device for work or multimedia and games etc and it would fit a lot of job holders like me as an architect or a student , artist, teacher etc so i would love to go with the Note PRO over the SP2 simply bc : bigger and better display , wide stylus integration for many apps , you can edit and restyle the android as you wish with so many apps and a full nice keyboard. also the way you feel about the device itself matters a lot and i believe going with the samsung would be a more better experience as being able to turn your tablet into a style that makes you feel good about using it . i didn't really like to go with some tech specs as it easily would be found online etc but here there is a really good article that may help you out from the very technical perspective on gizmag.com
Considering for me it was a choice between the note 12.2 and the SP2, and the note doesnt come out until tomorrow, my wife has already gone to best buy to get me a Surface Pro 2, at least to try out.
Considering that I can use bluestacks to play all the android games and apps I could on the note 12.2 (with some limitations), there is no applicational advantage to the note 12.2
The advantage to the 12.2 is the lower cost, better screen, and better integration of the s pen.
I feel like a traitor, though, going with the Surface. I love android and the note series is the king in my book, and the 12.2 is like the damn emperor of the note series, but I would be stupid and rather irrational not to at least try out the surface pro 2 if it can do everything to note can and more with only an extra 100 dollar price tag.
We shall see.
It is true that it depends on what you plan to use the particular device.
From various reviews, SP2 has a battery life of 6 hours while the GNP 12.2 has a battery life of 10 hours. I think I can do more with the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and more.
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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To be honest i couldn't decided between the two, at the moment i have got the surface pro 2 as my personal computer and i also got the galaxy note 10.1 2014 LTE edition, but i am now waiting for the note pro 12.2 LTE because i liked the bigger screen, i know it will cost nearly a thousand but to me its what i want as i want a mobile LTE tablet for when i travel around the country :good:
I just returned my SP2 last night and got the pro 12.2 at best buy. No regrets! I'm scratching my head for the last 15 days. A lot of problems on surface pro 2
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thering1975 said:
I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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LOL As soon as cwm is active i will start on this still waiting for sammobile to up the first release softwares
here is a video comparison between sp2 and the note pro 12.2 by Lisa mobiletechreviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP80fLkJrY
This isn't a fair match up at all...
Android all the way, yeah.
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I currently have both the SP2 and 12.2. You need a keyboard and mouse to really do anything productive on either device.
For any consumption, Youtube, movies, web, its the 12.2 FTW!
The only thing I haven't found that I can do on the 12.2 is Publisher and Powerpoint creation/presentation. I know there are android options there, but they are not up to full functionality when compared to MS office. The Hancom office that comes with the 12.2 is really good when it comes to excel and word though. Very impressed.
I ordered a bluetooth keyboard for the 12.2. I will be able to slip both the tablet and keyboard in the same bag and they won't be any thicker than the SP2.
The one advantage the SP2 has over the 12.2 is multi-monitor support. I am running three monitors and the SP2 at my office. Talk about productivity. There is no lag. Android can't do that yet. I am an android fanboy, but MS still has this productivity nailed.
My 2 cents. As you said, use case dictates your answer. I can't say I would be completely happy with only one of these devices. There is not yet "one device to rule them all."
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