Having taken my AT&T One X back, I have been considering the advantages of the International version and this is what I came up with:
More frequent updates
Free wireless tether out of the box
No bloatware or branding
Unlocked Bootloader
Twice the storage
Am I missing anything? Even though most of the bloatware can be disabled, there is still some that you can't, which eats into the RAM.
I have LTE in my area and it's fast, but my current phone doesn't have it and I can definitely live without it. Given that they are the same price off contract, I'm starting to think that the International version is a better bet.
I'm aware that performance and battery life are better on the S4, but other than benchmarks, I'm not sure the performance angle will mean much. Better battery life interests me, but timely updates from HTC may narrow that gap on the International version.
Positives
- While Adreno's no slouch, you could argue GeForce is better for gaming and you'd also have access to the Tergra Zone.
- Multitasking's been improved (too early to say it’s “good”) but it may be on the U.S. version too with updates.
- You get to select what app to open e-mail, pics, videos, web links, etc. with on the fly which has been removed in the U.S. version. Flashing custom ROMs would fix that though.
- You get back whatever stock HTC apps AT&T ordered removed. Someone who owns both phones could probably tell what they are and whether they're worth anything.
- The radio (for me) has been the best I've ever had on a phone. That includes celllular, Wi-FI, and BT. It picks up cell signals better than the i9100 did, moves between Wi-Fi and cellular cleanly, and BT auto connects to all my devices three times as fast and more reliably than the i9100. It's not fair to judge the U.S. version in its current state as it's obviously experiencing some bugs which will likely be worked out.
- You get a two vs. one year warranty.
- You get to use this which I think is pretty cool. I have a couple on order so it'll be kept charging when I'm not using it. It's supposedly "Bose-like" in its sound reproduction and charges the phone using the pogo pins. It connects via BT using Apt.X for lossless sound. They may make one for the U.S. version but for now the pogo pins are in the wrong place.
Negatives
- Battery life isn't as good as the U.S. version. You should get 12-14 hours but anything over that is pushing it. You'll also have a stroke until you rack up a few charge cycles because out-of-the-box it's pretty scary.
- Certain apps think you're in the UK. I have to use an old hacked version of Amazon MP3 to get cloud access.
- There's some debate about warranty support. The phone may have to be shipped to the UK if it needs repair. That's HTC's policy (Samsung's is the same) but some people have gotten repairs done in the U.S. It seems pretty random.
- HTC instituted a new warranty policy regarding third party ROMs with the One's. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCdev and they detect a third party ROM was used your h/w warranty is void. Since the bootloader's not unlocked on the U.S. version yet it's too soon to say if the same policy will be applied here.
- You have to buy SquareTrade for ADH since it's not available from AT&T. That also takes care of any issues with HTC not covering the warranty on ROM'd devices. It's transferable so you'll get more for the phone when you're ready to sell it.
BarryH_GEG said:
Positives
- While Adreno's no slouch, you could argue GeForce is better for gaming and you'd also have access to the Tergra Zone.
- Multitasking's been improved (too early to say it’s “good”) but it may be on the U.S. version too with updates.
- You get to select what app to open e-mail, pics, videos, web links, etc. with on the fly which has been removed in the U.S. version. Flashing custom ROMs would fix that though.
- You get back whatever stock HTC apps AT&T ordered removed. Someone who owns both phones could probably tell what they are and whether they're worth anything.
- The radio (for me) has been the best I've ever had on a phone. That includes celllular, Wi-FI, and BT. It picks up cell signals better than the i9100 did, moves between Wi-Fi and cellular cleanly, and BT auto connects to all my devices three times as fast and more reliably than the i9100. It's not fair to judge the U.S. version in its current state as it's obviously experiencing some bugs which will likely be worked out.
- You get a two vs. one year warranty.
- You get to use this which I think is pretty cool. I have a couple on order so it'll be kept charging when I'm not using it. It's supposedly "Bose-like" in its sound reproduction and charges the phone using the pogo pins. It connects via BT using Apt.X for lossless sound. They may make one for the U.S. version but for now the pogo pins are in the wrong place.
Negatives
- Battery life isn't as good as the U.S. version. You should get 12-14 hours but anything over that is pushing it. You'll also have a stroke until you rack up a few charge cycles because out-of-the-box it's pretty scary.
- Certain apps think you're in the UK. I have to use an old hacked version of Amazon MP3 to get cloud access.
- There's some debate about warranty support. The phone may have to be shipped to the UK if it needs repair. That's HTC's policy (Samsung's is the same) but some people have gotten repairs done in the U.S. It seems pretty random.
- HTC instituted a new warranty policy regarding third party ROMs with the One's. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCdev and they detect a third party ROM was used your h/w warranty is void. Since the bootloader's not unlocked on the U.S. version yet it's too soon to say if the same policy will be applied here.
- You have to buy SquareTrade for ADH since it's not available from AT&T. That also takes care of any issues with HTC not covering the warranty on ROM'd devices. It's transferable so you'll get more for the phone when you're ready to sell it.
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Thanks, Barry. You're a stud, as usual. That actually sounds pretty good. I don't bother with warranties. As long as the place I order from has a decent return policy (in the event it's a lemon), I'm good.
I am a little worried about battery life. All of the reviews made the S4 version sound so good. Battery tests I have seen are all over the place. Seems that the tegra version has longer call time and the S4 has longer web browsing.
I also noticed a thread in the International forum dedicated to complaining about Multitasking, so I wonder if it is still an issue.
Radio is that good, huh? Are you on AT&T? Did you have to set up a specific HSPA+ APN to get full speed? I had to do that on my Nexus.
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I am a little worried about battery life.
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It should get you through the day easily syncing, doing productivity stuff, streaming audio, and browsing. Game play and videos will require a top-up.
I also noticed a thread in the International forum dedicated to complaining about Multitasking, so I wonder if it is still an issue.
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They're neurotic. A handful of them bricked their phones screwing around trying to recover what they thought was lost space on the SD partition; even though none of them seemed to actually need the space. HTC's running virtual drives so the phone shows up as "disk storage" vs. using MTP. They racked up 100 pages discussing it. In Astro, I could see it calculating actual files stored correctly but reporting available space differently because an HTC apps was holding space. The space was there if needed because the HTC app would have reduced the cache it was retaining. So it was a reporting error not an actual loss of space. It also would have been the same on the U.S. version and I think with half the storage at least one person would have stumbled upon it. Moral of the story: trust nothing on the international forum.
I know how important multitasking is to you. Give me a list of things you couldn't live without having opened at the same time and I'll test them. I wouldn’t want you buying the phone on hearsay.
Radio is that good, huh? Are you on AT&T? Did you have to set up a specific HSPA+ APN to get full speed? I had to do that on my Nexus.
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I had the i9100 for eleven months and never got MMS working 100% of the time. With the One X, I popped the SIM in and it read the APNs without me having to do a thing. Keep in mind AT&T's a mess though. F-ups are usually due to the SIM, APNs, and/or plan provisioned on your account not lining up. So it's always a YMMV based on the plan linked to your account.
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I know how important multitasking is to you. Give me a list of things you couldn't live without having opened at the same time and I'll test them. I wouldn’t want you buying the phone on hearsay.
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You also have the Nexus. How does battery life compare to your Nexus? Mine has been stellar. If it's anything like the Nexus (or better), I'll be fine.
As for multitasking: It's not really like that. I fast switch between apps all the time, but I don't have a particular usage scenario. To me, ICS is made for multitasking, thus the dedicated button, so nerfing it seems ridiculous.
Mostly, I see myself multitasking between my bank app and calculator or a web page (which I already know refreshes) and e-mail. Sometimes, I multitask between the gallery and messaging, if I'm looking for a pic to send or a particular image. Maps and e-mail (if someone gives you directions or sends you an address).
Honestly, I tend to open apps from the tray most of the time, but I sometimes use the multitasking button to go back to one I used recently. Even on the nexus, those will die after a while.
My one other true, main concern is push e-mail. Someone in the AT&T forum reported that it was just the AT&T versions having that issue. I really need to believe that because if I get the International version and it's still a problem, I'll be sad. I suppose I could wait for an update, but it's that critical to me. My job depends on timely responses to e-mail.
watching CBS's new fall lineup this evening, and saw them mention listening in on cellphones even while theyre turned off. its not anything new, weve been seeing it in movies for years, where the government agencies listens in, or at least mentions their ability to listen in through cellphones when theyre turned off. eagle eye is one, and hostage (new show on cbs) mentioned it again tonight, which got me thinking if its realistically possible.
on the one hand, with android being as open source as it is, and millions upon millions of developers taking it apart, porting, and constantly rebuilding it from scratch, how could there possibly be a feature to not only listen in completely unnoticed, but do it while the phone is off?!
yet carrier iq actually happened.. and i would have never thought it could implemented without being spotted immediately.
soo, thoughts?
soraxd said:
watching CBS's new fall lineup this evening, and saw them mention listening in on cellphones even while theyre turned off. its not anything new, weve been seeing it in movies for years, where the government agencies listens in, or at least mentions their ability to listen in through cellphones when theyre turned off. eagle eye is one, and hostage (new show on cbs) mentioned it again tonight, which got me thinking if its realistically possible.
on the one hand, with android being as open source as it is, and millions upon millions of developers taking it apart, porting, and constantly rebuilding it from scratch, how could there possibly be a feature to not only listen in completely unnoticed, but do it while the phone is off?!
yet carrier iq actually happened.. and i would have never thought it could implemented without being spotted immediately.
soo, thoughts?
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I think this would be possible by turning them on remotely over a network. similar to waking a PC on LAN.
similar to
Wake on LAN is technology that allows someone to turn on a network computer remotely by sending a special data packet (called a Magic Packet). Even if the computer is turned off, the network adapter is still "listening" on the network, so when the special packet arrives, the network adapter can turn on the computer.
Wake on LAN is mainly used by system administrators to perform computer maintenance tasks remotely. The computer receiving the Magic Packet must have a motherboard, network adapter, adapter driver, and computer basic input/output system (BIOS) that work with Wake on LAN.
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When the computer is 'off' it is not really 'off' there is still power on the computer. I doubt whether a phone is still 'listening' to a GSM or 3G/4G network while OFF. Wouldn't you notice a huge drain the next time you start your phone? I think it is not as simple as with a regular desktop pc.
Edit: A simple google search gives me nothing on waking up my phone by GSM/3G/4G/WLAN.
Anyone else ?
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When the computer is 'off' it is not really 'off' there is still power on the computer. I doubt whether a phone is still 'listening' to a GSM or 3G/4G network while OFF. Wouldn't you notice a huge drain the next time you start your phone? I think it is not as simple as with a regular desktop pc.
Edit: A simple google search gives me nothing on waking up my phone by GSM/3G/4G/WLAN.
Anyone else ?
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Indeed, its not the same as a PC, but it does have a power source to maintain its date and time and what not's may or may not be embedded in its chips, just to get an idea about chips, read this
Hence it can be not only a software issue but can also be a hardware issue.
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That is interesting, I knew some of that but never really digged into it. Do you know anybody has tried to locate the chip, I mean on the software side, so a it could be like, disabled software side, so it wouldnbt be of any use?
Also I'm downloading the documentary is just finished downloading :good: Thank you for sharing that with the world Sir.
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That is interesting, I knew some of that but never really digged into it. Do you know anybody has tried to locate the chip, I mean on the software side, so a it could be like, disabled software side, so it wouldnbt be of any use?
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Off hand such info would be difficult to obtain, and most likely not available to most. In addition Chip manufacturers can be compelled to "implant" certain things into their chips that even phone manufacturers will not be aware of by relevant concerns, so its pretty much a dark area for end users. Than comes software , which also can be incorporated with the requirements of agencies that have interest for such requirements,
end of the day, just to give you an idea on software just saw a post made today let me quote http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46060254&postcount=78
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Profiling or citizen database in any way is/can be dangerous. Nobody can guarantee future.
Lets have a look at what all information does Google have about YOU through your Android phone :
YOUR NAME
01. Your picture
02. Your complete Contact list with pictures, e-mail ids, phone numbers, birthdays, etc.
03. Whom you met or gonna meet (Calendar) (Btw, there were digital and much powerful calendars way before Google Calendar e.g BlackBerry)
04. With whom you talked, when and how long (Call log) (Read Privacy Policy \ Log information )
05. Your family and other images (Picasa web albums) (Google+ auto-upload)
06. Your WiFi passwords (device backup)
07. Where you are located or went (location)
08. Which sites you visited (Android browser google login)
09. Which device/s you own.
10. Your files (Google drive) (no encryption) (Also Gmail attachments)
11. What you searched (Google search and Now)
12. Your pic (Chrome has Camera permissions) (everything can be used in two ways)
13. Your daily route (Google Now)
14. What you talked with someone through chat (GTalk) (its their servers, right)
15. Finally, your emails and its contents. Read this (I believe we will see many such things in near future as awareness increases)
Ever heard about NSA or PRISM
There is much more to it than meets the eye or this list.
Today, Google and Facebook (primarily Google) knows more about you than your own parents or spouse and that's frightening. If not today then tomorrow.
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Yes I know, but at least I made a choice in this, giving them my information, if I wanted to I could use a nokia 3310 or something similar. But I'm a online junkie I guess.
Maybe it doesn't matter that much in a year or 1, 2 maybe 3 lol:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/14/us-japan-fukushima-insight-idUSBRE97D00M20130814
I can see a GPS transceiver in the phone potentially working while the phone is off to give information on where the phone is (like a tracking bug or whatever), but I don't think they'd be able to listen in while the phone is off. Similar to what others have said, regarding WOL packets etc... phone would have to be on and connected to a cell tower to transmit the audio data....
If you're really worried, take out the battery Though even then, maybe they have some sort of super capacitor kinetic battery that will auto-charge with motion.... oh the conspiracy theory continues!
Even if the government could listen to your calls why should it matter? Unless you are doing something wrong it should matter right? Maybe it's just me that would rather them listen in and potentially prevent an attack by doing so. Just me I guess. So how about that Galaxy Note 3... Nice piece of work there.
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I can see a GPS transceiver in the phone potentially working while the phone is off to give information on where the phone is (like a tracking bug or whatever), but I don't think they'd be able to listen in while the phone is off. Similar to what others have said, regarding WOL packets etc... phone would have to be on and connected to a cell tower to transmit the audio data....
If you're really worried, take out the battery Though even then, maybe they have some sort of super capacitor kinetic battery that will auto-charge with motion.... oh the conspiracy theory continues!
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LOL, :laugh: All phones have an internal lithium-ion battery to maintain the date and time so to speak, maybe its time to look inside your phone or just download a technical manual to know better . There is nothing magical or conspiratorial about it actually, since you a transferring music, video, images & power (heard of wireless charging?), over the Air. Activating a phone or just its modem must be impossible?
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LOL, :laugh: All phones have an internal lithium-ion battery to maintain the date and time so to speak, maybe its time to look inside your phone or just download a technical manual to know better . There is nothing magical or conspiratorial about it actually, since you a transferring music, video, images & power (heard of wireless charging?), over the Air. Activating a phone or just its modem must be impossible?
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Dang, quoting you was difficult, having to strip out all that signature stuff!
I know that there's a Li-Ion in there, but those batteries are used to keep a timeclock alive. I don't know THAT much about batteries, but we have these massive batteries in our phones that tremendously increase our phones' weight just so we can have 4-6 hrs of "moderate use".... I would tend to think (again, i'm not an expert on the subject, just giving my 2 cents) that the tiny lithium ion battery wouldn't even be enough to power the radio and the mic, much less an operating system or hardware encoding device. Even if it could, it wouldn't be able to transfer all that much for that long, right? Sure, you could say it can grab the charge from the main battery etc, but couldn't we easily enough find out if there is any kind of electromagnetic signature or radio wave coming out of the devices when off? I'm sure someone out there in the interwebs has a device that can tell us this (a la Ghost Hunters or something?).
Regardless, we're all being tracked all the time. That's just the state of things. Wish it weren't, and wish there were somethign we could do about it, but not realy sure what options exist.
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Dang, quoting you was difficult, having to strip out all that signature stuff!
I know that there's a Li-Ion in there, but those batteries are used to keep a timeclock alive. I don't know THAT much about batteries, but we have these massive batteries in our phones that tremendously increase our phones' weight just so we can have 4-6 hrs of "moderate use".... I would tend to think (again, i'm not an expert on the subject, just giving my 2 cents) that the tiny lithium ion battery wouldn't even be enough to power the radio and the mic, much less an operating system or hardware encoding device. Even if it could, it wouldn't be able to transfer all that much for that long, right? Sure, you could say it can grab the charge from the main battery etc, but couldn't we easily enough find out if there is any kind of electromagnetic signature or radio wave coming out of the devices when off? I'm sure someone out there in the interwebs has a device that can tell us this (a la Ghost Hunters or something?).
Regardless, we're all being tracked all the time. That's just the state of things. Wish it weren't, and wish there were somethign we could do about it, but not realy sure what options exist.
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Well said, couldn't put it in better way.
There are actually many more tracking devices available and more effective than our phone, such as your brain waves.
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tiny lithium ion battery wouldn't even be enough to power the radio and the mic, much less an operating system or hardware encoding device. Even if it could, it wouldn't be able to transfer all that much for that long, right?
Regardless, we're all being tracked all the time. That's just the state of things. Wish it weren't, and wish there were somethign we could do about it, but not realy sure what options exist.
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Apparently, you seem to miss the point mate, the OP has seen
watching CBS's new fall lineup this evening, and saw them mention listening in on cellphones even while theyre turned off.
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this on CBS and wondering how this can be done on an android without being noticed.
Whereas you try to brush it aside by saying
Though even then, maybe they have some sort of super capacitor kinetic battery that will auto-charge with motion.... oh the conspiracy theory continues!
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what I am saying is , it only needs a small amount of internal power source to trigger the main functions of the phone as and when needed by those who have needs for such capabilities. Now to wonder how it is or was done is all well and good but to try an suggest its just another conspiracy theory would be like sticking your head in the ground like an ostrich.
Let me take you back to the OP's question how is it possible without being noticed by the user, that is where, if the only the modem or only the MIC is activated / triggered, than there will be nothing to hear or see on the phone.(meaning phone will look inactive but is actively transmitting everything )
This thread is not about what can be done or cannot be done, its about not sticking over heads in the grounds and being aware of our situation
how text messages & WIFI can trigger
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The FBI develops some hacking tools internally and purchases others from the private sector. With such technology, the bureau can remotely activate the microphones in phones running Google Inc.'s GOOG +0.11% Android software to record conversations, one former U.S. official said. It can do the same to microphones in laptops without the user knowing, the person said. Google declined to comment.
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I'm certainly not trying to say it's impossible. Just saying that there are MANY ways we are tracked, and it wouldn't be the most efficient to track (when phone is off) using Li-ion battery. Not saying it's not happening.
All this talk has made me want to purchase a device that can detect bugs / activity. Not only around the phone, but around the house, the car, etc... i'm getting more and more paranoid!
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watching CBS's new fall lineup this evening, and saw them mention listening in on cellphones even while theyre turned off. its not anything new, weve been seeing it in movies for years, where the government agencies listens in, or at least mentions their ability to listen in through cellphones when theyre turned off. eagle eye is one, and hostage (new show on cbs) mentioned it again tonight, which got me thinking if its realistically possible.
on the one hand, with android being as open source as it is, and millions upon millions of developers taking it apart, porting, and constantly rebuilding it from scratch, how could there possibly be a feature to not only listen in completely unnoticed, but do it while the phone is off?!
yet carrier iq actually happened.. and i would have never thought it could implemented without being spotted immediately.
soo, thoughts?
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Interesting topic. Time for some imagination to run wild.
Yes, technically, it is possible for a government to listen in to any cellphone they wish to, even when it is turned off.
How? To implant a self-contained, self-powered, eavesdropping chip to each and every phone being sold in the country. The configuration of this eavesdropper is left to anyone's imagination of science & espionage fiction, e.g., remote power on/off, induction charging (aka "wireless" charging) of built-in battery, gps tracking, etc.
Do-able? Highly unlikely, imho. Not for every phone that will be sold to the general public, at least.
The logistics will be too massive a challenge because this eavesdropping chip has to be implanted into every phone, and cellphone models change so frequently. The engineering time and effort, involved to implant this chip to each cellphone's mainboard seamlessly and fit into the cellphone casing, makes this virtually impossible to be done for each and every phone being sold, considering the lead-time for the engineering and the lightning rate at which newer models are being introduced to the public for sale.
Targetted phones - yes, this will be possible. If the buyer is known to be buying a certain phone from a certain telco, then it will be possible for a government to intervene the purchase and fake delay to the delivery date of the phone, to re-engineer the phone with the eavesdropper, before the telco hands the phone over to the buyer.
Generic eavesdropper implants?
If the phone manufacturer (Brand X) is from the same country as a government, then it is possible that a government will want to plant an eavesdropper in every phone being manufactured and to be sold in another targetted country, e.g., Country A. This can be easily done by having a motherboard version A for Brand X phones to be exported to country A. So all phones of Brand X being sold in Country A will have the eavesdropper.
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Interesting topic. Time for some imagination to run wild.
Yes, technically, it is possible for a government to listen in to any cellphone they wish to, even when it is turned off.
How? To implant a self-contained, self-powered, eavesdropping chip to each and every phone being sold in the country. The configuration of this eavesdropper is left to anyone's imagination of science & espionage fiction, e.g., remote power on/off, induction charging (aka "wireless" charging) of built-in battery, gps tracking, etc.
Do-able? Highly unlikely, imho. Not for every phone that will be sold to the general public, at least.
The logistics will be too massive a challenge because this eavesdropping chip has to be implanted into every phone, and cellphone models change so frequently. The engineering time and effort, involved to implant this chip to each cellphone's mainboard seamlessly and fit into the cellphone casing, makes this virtually impossible to be done for each and every phone being sold, considering the lead-time for the engineering and the lightning rate at which newer models are being introduced to the public for sale.
Targetted phones - yes, this will be possible. If the buyer is known to be buying a certain phone from a certain telco, then it will be possible for a government to intervene the purchase and fake delay to the delivery date of the phone, to re-engineer the phone with the eavesdropper, before the telco hands the phone over to the buyer.
Generic eavesdropper implants?
If the phone manufacturer (Brand X) is from the same country as a government, then it is possible that a government will want to plant an eavesdropper in every phone being manufactured and to be sold in another targetted country, e.g., Country A. This can be easily done by having a motherboard version A for Brand X phones to be exported to country A. So all phones of Brand X being sold in Country A will have the eavesdropper.
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good points mate, that's why this was mentioned earlier but end of the day such things can already be inserted into the CPU only awaiting switch ON/OFF by those whom it had been designed for is another point to add to yours. ( if not now, in time to come)
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i think they can listen our voices.as you know when the phone is off but your phone clock still working fine.
i believe the ideal way to test this, would be to actively monitor the voltage of the phone. on the software side of things its much easier to be cleverly hidden, but on the hardware side nothing can happen without a draw in current. if someone really cared, they could monitor each part in the phone individually, to see when each and every part was doing something. tho i doubt anyone who has the know-how cares to, and anyone who cares has the know-how, lol.
soraxd said:
. tho i doubt anyone who has the know-how cares to, and anyone who cares has the know-how, lol.
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For obvious reasons, it would be unwise to even think about it, as those who ventured too far in exposing such details ended up in serious problems, similar to this article
Mayer said Yahoo scrutinizes and fights US government data requests stamped with the authority of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, but when the company losses battles it must do as directed or risk being branded a traitor.
Data requests authorized by the court come with an order barring anyone at the company receiving the request from disclosing anything about them, even their existence.
"If you don't comply, it is treason," Mayer said when asked why she couldn't just spill details of requests by US spy agencies for information about Yahoo users.
"We can't talk about it because it is classified," she continued. "Releasing classified information is treason, and you are incarcerated. In terms of protecting our users, it makes more sense to work within the system."
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To bring closure to exactly how the smartphone is triggered , this article about The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone gives us the clue
While we can sort-of assume that the base stations in cell towers operated by large carriers are "safe", the fact of the matter is that base stations are becoming a lot cheaper, and are being sold on eBay - and there are even open source base station software packages. Such base stations can be used to target phones. Put a compromised base station in a crowded area - or even a financial district or some other sensitive area - and you can remotely turn on microphones, cameras, place rootkits, place calls/send SMS messages to expensive numbers, and so on. Yes, you can even brick phones permanently.
This is a pretty serious issue, but one that you rarely hear about. This is such low-level, complex software that I would guess very few people in the world actually understand everything that's going on here.
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