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[Q] Big Fonts - Stable ROM: What's Ideal for the Know-Nothing User?

I sincely don't mean to ask "What's the best ROMzerwow!?" But here's the details anyway, (sorry); I'm looking to help out my old man by making his phone last just a few hours longer which means: Teaching him to use the power switches for wifi & Data, etc. That's my end. but what I cant do, I need to find which is:
• Debloating the phone
There's a lot of crap he doesn't need, let alone use!
• Adjustable Font Size
Most key is a ROM/MOD that allows for LARGE font sizes as sight isn't his strongest point anymore.
• Stability
I understand I'm asking for perfection but I'm not expecting it. That said, which ROMs are the most stable for the Charge? from what I've read, Tweaked ROMs seems to be popular but what seems to be (even an outdated one ie CM7-like, Gingerbread etc) are fine. I want to be able to install and customize the settings for the ol' man and never touch it again to keep things simple and pain free for him (and me).
If I am asking much feel free to point me elsewhere. I came across Odin Flash Guide So I'm assuming this will make it as pain free as possible once I can settle on a ROM or two to experiment with. Just remember to tell me which Build of the ROM you're suggesting
Thanks for your input! Cheers.

KicknGuitar said:
I sincely don't mean to ask "What's the best ROMzerwow!?" But here's the details anyway, (sorry); I'm looking to help out my old man by making his phone last just a few hours longer which means: Teaching him to use the power switches for wifi & Data, etc. That's my end. but what I cant do, I need to find which is:
• Debloating the phone
There's a lot of crap he doesn't need, let alone use!
• Adjustable Font Size
Most key is a ROM/MOD that allows for LARGE font sizes as sight isn't his strongest point anymore.
• Stability
I understand I'm asking for perfection but I'm not expecting it. That said, which ROMs are the most stable for the Charge? from what I've read, Tweaked ROMs seems to be popular but what seems to be (even an outdated one ie CM7-like, Gingerbread etc) are fine. I want to be able to install and customize the settings for the ol' man and never touch it again to keep things simple and pain free for him (and me).
If I am asking much feel free to point me elsewhere. I came across Odin Flash Guide So I'm assuming this will make it as pain free as possible once I can settle on a ROM or two to experiment with. Just remember to tell me which Build of the ROM you're suggesting
Thanks for your input! Cheers.
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right now, Tweaked is the only game in town - and it's quite awesome! tweaked will debloat. as for font size, I think installing GO launcher allows for customization of that.
regarding battery life, not much aside from minimizing number of apps installed and accounts synced. for me, I found that juice defender works best.

There is also options in Accessibility menu...
Sent from my N7 powered by AOSPA and M+ Kernel.

jco23 said:
right now, Tweaked is the only game in town - and it's quite awesome! tweaked will debloat. as for font size, I think installing GO launcher allows for customization of that.
regarding battery life, not much aside from minimizing number of apps installed and accounts synced. for me, I found that juice defender works best.
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Thanks for the info, which build seems to be the easiest to install and go without having to worry about bugs?
dSlice said:
There is also options in Accessibility menu...
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We've got the fonts already on large but because of my inexperience outside of Moto Defy roms, I'm just making sure it'll be Large no matter what. Thanks!

[ROM][AOSP][5.1.1] Slim ROM Beta 0.14 #Back2Basics [Unofficial][2016-January-13]

First of all - all credits go to cordell and Slim Team. After will left the hlte slim scene, I found great gap when it comes to light and functional roms. Aim of this rom will be to stay close to Slim principles, but optimised with various toolchains and adding few features that I deem necessary.
This is the worst OP ever.
At this stage, it is still early to add or request features, as Slim just started developing again. When the code settles, I will have my own take on this rom. It will stay small, fast and stable above everything else.
Slim is back! Getting better with each release.
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Slim Kiss Edition, ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Contributors
encho
ROM OS Version: 5.1.x Lollipop
Version Information
Status: DD quality
GPL/Sources
Kernel
Device tree
Slim

Downloads
Download ROM
Recommended Gapps Slim Zero of course.
Changelog
24 April 2015 - initial build - 0.1 alpha
25 May 2015 - - build 0.3 alpha - 'Return of the Slim'
28 May 2015 -Updated Layers support: Dialler, Contacts, InCallUI. Vertical scrolling gallery from CM. New MMS app.
03 June 2015- Upstream changes.
11 June 2015- Upstream changes.
19 June 2015- build 0.4 alpha - upstream changes, emergency call fix.
29 June 2015- Upstream changes.
05 July - Slim beta 0.1. Includes full layers support, f2fs and NTFS support.
28 July - Slim beta 0.2. Custom kernel, upstream changes.
09 September - Back to basics, modified Slim kernel, UBER TC. No Layers.
17 September - Slim 0.7. Layers. System f2fs. Kernel updates, including powersave and adreno idler.
21 September - Minor update, move to sdcard and Titanium large apps restore fully working.
13 January 2016 - Slim Beta 0.14
Extra Features - some already added to main source
Layers 2.1 support - done
Vertical scrolling gallery - done
New SMS - done
UBERTC - done
Arter's sound and bluetooth fixes - done
Vibration control - done
Button backlight customisation - done

Working (what I tested so far, you tell me):
LTE
Calling
Camera
Bluetooth
RRO Layers 2.1
GPS
Charging
Smoothness and speed!
Not working/missing:
No slim settings yet.
Because of the above no way to setup home-to wake (but power button works).
No Slim launcher yet.
No other advanced features that used to be there.
It might be too smooth and fast for some people.
Observations:
New Slim features new cm-based app ops (yay), including built-in root.
Camera has storage settings option.
Quick Boot works (in dev settings).
It is smooth and fast.

Thanks, do mobile connections works this time?

Irony71 said:
Thanks, do mobile connections works this time?
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Yep. I wouldn't post otherwise.

Will try this soon. Thanks for building so many different roms.

Irony71 said:
Will try this soon. Thanks for building so many different roms.
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I am flashaholic like the rest of you. If nobody wanted to build I had to. [emoji12]
Remember this kind of ROM is not everybody's cup of tea. Not many features, but boy it feels light.

Then it's my cup oft tea. After searching for more and more features since Note 1 I settled down a bit and search for a stable slim rom.
Btw. Will is back in the building game for hlte but only with a slim cm build.

Irony71 said:
Then it's my cup oft tea. After searching for more and more features since Note 1 I settled down a bit and search for a stable slim rom.
Btw. Will is back in the building game for hlte but only with a slim cm build.
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I've seen it, although I prefer slim base.

hello and congats for your work. been using slim rom for my old galaxy II.
does this rom support spen functions?
regards

dlemonis16 said:
hello and congats for your work. been using slim rom for my old galaxy II.
does this rom support spen functions?
regards
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get CM S-pen add on - Note Buddy - Papyrus and you're good to go

Nice rom. Two issues: didn't figure out how to activate recents and battery use is on the high side.
Will go back to euphoria

Irony71 said:
Nice rom. Two issues: didn't figure out how to activate recents and battery use is on the high side.
Will go back to euphoria
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Yes, as I mentioned no button config in the menu yet. Still very early days.

encho said:
Yes, as I mentioned no button config in the menu yet. Still very early days.
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FANTASTIC !!
MANY THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK AS WELL AS FOR STARTING THIS THREAD !!
Have used (and really enjoyed) ROM intensively at work for the last three days or so.
Very - very light, smooth, rock stable and lightning fast !! (windows open after you think and before you click !!).
Love this bare bone feeling !!
Appreciated very much the save photos to sd option as well as the enter instead of emoticon in keyboard (no need for x-posed modules) and the volume buttons moving cursor options (I think both are missing in AOSPA - also an EXCELLENT ROM !!).
Lovely grey signal bars for 2G turn white for 3G - LTE.
Quick boot option is there to activate but shut down function in advanced power menu doesn't actually shut device down, therefore unable to confirm that it works.
Minor issue: after boot, ROM hangs for quite a while (I haven't timed it but I'm getting the impression it takes quite a bit longer than other 5.1.1 ROMs to boot up) in home screen before lockscreen is activated (therefore danger of shortcuts getting accidentally pressed in one's pocket etc).
A cupple of functions I could definitely live without but which would make (my) life easier if present:
Phone keypad T9 localizations.
Symbols for long press in AOSP keyboard.
Battery percentage (instead of icon) option for taskbar (I COMPLETELY ADORED the semi hidden -like easter egg- function when pressing the little battery icon in AOSPA's battery settings).
Another small thing: I think missed calls appear as received in call history.
And possibly no more than a cupple more (almost not worth mentioning) I don't remember.
My hardware buttons workaround is currently "gesture navigation" x-posed module that does an excellent job once one gets used to it (I will probably use it instead of buttons from now on).
Currently trying AOSPA daily at work (this, to me, is the only real testing) which gives me a very good feeling of fluidity, smoothness and stability though without the imediate responsiveness that Slim does (often reminds me of "Broken" which, after all is a Slim on steroids). I will post in the appropriate thread (many thanks for this also) when I'm done.
All the best.
Yours as always
costasparisis

After a long while, new update is up. Lots of updates. Enjoy.

The ok button is unavailable when putting in the sim card number so I have been unable to use the Rom even after a factory reset
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium HD app

encho said:
After a long while, new update is up. Lots of updates. Enjoy.
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People who read this please visit following link first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60646694&postcount=53
Many thanks again encho.
Excellent ROM overall.
Enjoyed and still enjoying. Using since yesterday afternoon (24 hrs) <-I too always come back to Slim & have a tendency to stay->.
Really fast and light feeling even after having lived with Broken for 24 hrs so:
speed & snappiness 990/1.000 (agreeing that the latest version of Broken is always the standard for speed & snappiness ie 999/1.000 unless stated otherways).
No lack of any feature I would consider essential or find hard to live without. This said, hardware button mapping preferably with ability to assign app or shortcut to long-press and/or double press (excellent workaround for this is Gesture Navigation x-posed module), phonepad button T9 localization and long press phonepad button speed dialling would definitely have made my life easier.
Slim Launcher integration is very welcome and the addition of Personalisation>Interface in settings very promising for having one or two more features in future builds.
QuickBoot mode in Developer options an excellent addition - but Power Off command in Power Button long press menu doesn't work when QuickBoot mode is activated (works fine otherways but then there's no QuickBoot- haha) so let's say:
features 900/1.000 (agreeing that the latest version of BlissPop is always the standard for features ie 999/1.000 -or maybe I shouldn't have mentioned this at all -LOL- going to try latest version imediately after this)
Stability now is 999/1.000 since all basic settings and built-in applications work fine (QuickBoot mode is more of a feature than a basic setting so it doesn't count). And which ROM shall we agree is setting the standard for stability ? Probably EOS I should think.
Anyway, this was a first try -hopefully will mature over time (& get shorter and more juicy). I will try and post every time I have tried a new ROM / ROM version, either for a very short time (ie flashacholic's curiosity to see what's "inside the box") or for a longer period, at work etc. For anyone who happens to read this: please feel free to suggest anything and always remember that this is done purely for fun.
All the best
costasparisis

costasparisis said:
People who read this please visit following link first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60646694&postcount=53
Many thanks again encho.
Excellent ROM overall.
Enjoyed and still enjoying. Using since yesterday afternoon (24 hrs) <-I too always come back to Slim & have a tendency to stay->.
Really fast and light feeling even after having lived with Broken for 24 hrs so:
speed & snappiness 990/1.000 (agreeing that the latest version of Broken is always the standard for speed & snappiness ie 999/1.000 unless stated otherways).
No lack of any feature I would consider essential or find hard to live without. This said, hardware button mapping preferably with ability to assign app or shortcut to long-press and/or double press (excellent workaround for this is Gesture Navigation x-posed module), phonepad button T9 localization and long press phonepad button speed dialling would definitely have made my life easier.
Slim Launcher integration is very welcome and the addition of Personalisation>Interface in settings very promising for having one or two more features in future builds.
QuickBoot mode in Developer options an excellent addition - but Power Off command in Power Button long press menu doesn't work when QuickBoot mode is activated (works fine otherways but then there's no QuickBoot- haha) so let's say:
features 900/1.000 (agreeing that the latest version of BlissPop is always the standard for features ie 999/1.000 -or maybe I shouldn't have mentioned this at all -LOL- going to try latest version imediately after this)
Stability now is 999/1.000 since all basic settings and built-in applications work fine (QuickBoot mode is more of a feature than a basic setting so it doesn't count). And which ROM shall we agree is setting the standard for stability ? Probably EOS I should think.
Anyway, this was a first try -hopefully will mature over time (& get shorter and more juicy). I will try and post every time I have tried a new ROM / ROM version, either for a very short time (ie flashacholic's curiosity to see what's "inside the box") or for a longer period, at work etc. For anyone who happens to read this: please feel free to suggest anything and always remember that this is done purely for fun.
All the best
costasparisis
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Great review, people will know what to expect before flashing. :good:

@encho thanks for the update and your hard work.
Are you planning to make this rom compatible with other custom kernels like arter97's or temasek's?

piats said:
@encho thanks for the update and your hard work.
Are you planning to make this rom compatible with other custom kernels like arter97's or temasek's?
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Soon, I hope. Lots and lots of commits coming from slim team, so it would be pointless at this stage to do any framework changes.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi 9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi 9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I absolutely love the lock screen that shows the earth and moon in sync with realtime. And you can check notifications this way, swipe them away if you want, and when you put the phone down it will go to sleep immediately! And it will wake when you pick it up. Nice little touches.
It's great. Fast, bluetooth is working, sound quality is great, feels so premium, battery seems like it's doing well, the screen is magnificient, the camera fast and accurate. For a phone without OIS, I was pleased my little parakeet running up my arm could be captured sharply, she never stops moving.
So far, day one? I'm in love.

Real review
- super hard to unlock bootloader
- very easy to root then, with OTA and everything staying (main difference vs Samsung - no OTA, no bluetooth, no encryption etc)
- no Lockdown feature, even with external activities
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest)
- they override every app, every dialog, and modify even innocent com.android packages, so it's super hard to debloat
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever
- many of those million settings simply don't work, especially permissions, lot of glitches like double power key to flash is blocked by screen off action
- example of stupidy is battery section, have to click so much to see the chart and there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models?
- some settings are strong, like complex Data limits, AI remapping, call recording available without hack etc
- "AI" button easily programmable via Xposed
- nice to have apps like Music and Video which vanilla OxygenOS skips, but they're weak and no DLNA which is advertised
- volume buttons on the right? excellent, never ever could touch those on the left easily. However no easy shortcut for Dont Disturb (only the stupid long press to mute just ONE volume) and no activity for it available (to let Xposed handle it).. OnePlus wins with the dedicated button easily
- data collection and privacy agreements virtually everywhere, in any simple app (that's why AOSP would be lovely choice instead of XIAOMI ROM)
- battery life is insane when active (like pure 10 "configuration day" hours or 7.5hr with 31hr overall), got mediocre in standby after configuration (no good kernel exists, stock kernel is crap, not aware of deep doze, so pushing Naptime and Servicely at least, so far pushed it to est 78hr wifi_standby vs 178hr standby on 6T! update: pushed it to 267hr in a quick test, but real test req full charge and >3hr standby to be meaningful, anyway potential is there), still early to say what will be final 3g and wifi standby (in progress)
- notification ecosystem is very good (except by default they disabled notifications for most apps!), you can customize popups, AOD magic light (however AOD won't show any app icon for me), and the LED make sure you know about notification or charging (and charging produces very nice animation - very important for Qi to know you place phone right!)
- AOD exists unlike in OnePlus, and in battery app its got its own category
- overall fast, currently the fastest phone on market
- yet another Pie implementation of navbar with some crazy gestures from the left/right which collide with its own GBoard gestures (still the Oreo task manager was better)
- QC charging is fast and supports QC2-3-4 (that is very very good unlike properietary OnePlus charging, who's got OnePlus chargers around? Noone. Who's got QC chargers? Many), fast Qi not working on legacy chargers (not a showstopper as i like slow charge to treat battery right, and will have one 27W Qi for urgency)
- super fast face unlock during day, poor during night just like 6T as there's no infra, however 6T can raise identification chance to 100% with ugly but working display flash
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing)
- looks much better and less bulkier than 6T even in supplied cover. also 12g lighter but still heavy unlike sweetspot-weight champions S10 (157g) and S10e (150g)
- notch is bad, it cannot disappear smart like on 6T (with status bar still on, yes the newest versions adds change of shape - useless), to add to insult, the cutting of corners is wrong (prepare to see ugly fullscreen with different type of corner rounding)
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome)
- no IP certification, but ok to clean under water, not ok to immerse as the rubber in SIM card is poor quality, however display to phone is stuffed with branded water sealing solution
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work)
- night mode renders some gfx unreadable, but this is problem with every android phone
- screen is nice, and super bright if needed
Overall hardware is no brainer for the price, software is total crap.

doggydog2 said:
- super hard to unlock bootloader
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest)
- they override every app, every dialog, and modify even innocent com.android packages, so it's super hard to debloat
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever
- example of stupidy is battery section, have to click so much to see the chart and there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models?
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing)
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome)
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work)
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Well a nice feedback list, I just try to keep some points to clarify/to propose another perspective from another users to help others
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help --> This is not really a problem to many users, just find a computer and not many people really have a need to do anything flashing without a computer.
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest) --> Just put all those apps to a folder to forget it, and don't use them. easy, it doesn't take that much space. In EU rom, there's very few apps like that, and I can avoid them completely without removing or de-bloating them.
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever --> I found no problem this, you just change the one you need, in English there's nothing seems difficult to understand, at least to me.
- there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models? --> just turn % battery on that just one tick.
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing) --> It works 80% number of times for me, of course, can't compete with real physical fingerprint, but definitely not 50% for me.
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome) --> Defaut camera has night mode, + Google camera is a much better choice
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work) --> Yep, buy a camera glass protector + a case with the higher back which protect the camera
Some info hopes can help others as well.

It's weird that there are actually alternative ROMs, kernels, but not published here. Just installed the kernel with lovely wakelocks disabled. Hope it helps the terrible battery life.
The Xiaomi software is the worst seen while on XDA, cannot imagine it's even worse in non-EU version. Already thinking how life was easy with "configure and forget" 6T except omission of QC, QI and LED diod, which are the huge hardware advantages i'm dying for.
To make this phone usable, one needs to get rid of the software. The horror called MIUI. However switching to vanilla ROM brings common problems like on Samsung (Bluetooth not working, limited fingerpint, limited camera, no OTA). So the best would be heavily debloated ROM published here, injecting some vanilla stuff back. I'd remove Pemission manager, Security manager, clouds. Good luck!
Extra bizzare behaviour:
- if you don't set float notifications for the app, they will never show up (disabled for all by default so have to click hundred times just to change this settings, and another thousand clicks to recover other choices), however if you turn it on, they float notifications will be forced! (like VPN starting, navigation starting - events that never show up as popups)
- if you click clean memory from Security manager, battery manager or even "X" button in task manager, it will kill ALL apps (incl. apps which have highest priority due to notification, incl. VPN!) - how insane can this be?
- DLNA proudly in spec, but their apps can't cast or read UPNP folders, while all others can. But at least they can connect to Alibaba servers...
- nonstop popups about app going full screen (while there's no visual difference! already navbar gone because of Pie gesture setting)
- nonstop popups about downloading files on 3G (they had to touch this sacred group of processes too - Media+Download manager)
- you can change notification bar Setting icon to Search icon, feature mimicking the best Samsung's tool "Finder" except this one is weaker but with ad/spyware . Not only it won't trigger search but also you can't get to settings anymore (what if you don't have Settings icon in app launcher? reflash ROM?)
- boot keyboard.. are you kidding me.. unresponsive, hardly can type password there.. Shift equals Caps lock. Tt behaves like TWRP keyboard, don't type more than 1 character per second

I absolutely love Xiaomi devices but don't use them until I install xiaomi.eu rom. Of course you need to unlock it first and install TWRP but it's a must to get rid of some of the annoying things you wrote on your list. The roms are great and I use it on all of my Xiaomi devices. Check it out: https://xiaomi.eu/community/link-forums/roms-download.73/

razor_amd said:
I absolutely love Xiaomi devices but don't use them until I install xiaomi.eu rom. Of course you need to unlock it first and install TWRP but it's a must to get rid of some of the annoying things you wrote on your list. The roms are great and I use it on all of my Xiaomi devices. Check it out: https://xiaomi.eu/community/link-forums/roms-download.73/
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The xiaomi.eu is so much better than the stock ROM ?

ManuBBXX said:
The xiaomi.eu is so much better than the stock ROM ?
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It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.

tsongming said:
It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
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no OTG in TWRP that's valid except one recovery ppl avoid as it's Chinese. It's a huge deal especially when you have a device without SD card. Just today had to escape home early to recover the phone..what a new way to operate.
After hundreds of flashes, test of all available ROMs (except this one), recoveries, kernels and full functional check on this particular phone i've a good overview. Overall Xiaomi is a very outdated, over modified bloated ugly software. They should start from the scratch to be honest. Yes 10 years ago ppl would celebrate their extra functions, but today it's intrusive, useless or duplicit. That's why unique Samsung features are now dead (multiwindow etc) as Android implemented it. Xiaomi insists on their irrational UI, worst Settings UI hierarchy in the industry and replacement of everything. There's literally nothing innovative in the UI except single functional extra - data usage control - and you get more functions in AOSP. Few non-innovative things to like? Sure, notif lights, charging animations, call recorder not hidden.. But that's nothing new. The stuff like disabling all notifications and auto starts until users enables it, is insane. Memory management is a joke. Overriding all system dialogs is pathetic. Inserting wait times in confirmation popups is aggressive. Intrusive download manager is good just to block desired downloads from Google etc. Fantastic Pie features (QuickStep, switch apps by navbar) are disabled. Minimal difference in Global vs EU version spotted, i'd prefer global one and delete few extra spy/bloat/malwares myself just because of the ugly icons.
But anyway, I like that webpage. Thanks. It's cool to cook a ROM. Wished the updates were via OTA and directly from OS. They rip some more crap off, which is so much needed in Xiaomi phones. The question is: does mi-globe keep modified 3rd party app icons like Xiaomi.EU? Does Magisk18.1 work? I'd like to try luck with version 18 to improve battery life.

doggydog2 said:
no OTG in TWRP that's valid except one recovery ppl avoid as it's Chinese. It's a huge deal especially when you have a device without SD card. Just today had to escape home early to recover the phone..what a new way to operate.
After hundreds of flashes, test of all available ROMs (except this one), recoveries, kernels and full functional check on this particular phone i've a good overview. Overall Xiaomi is a very outdated, over modified bloated ugly software. They should start from the scratch to be honest. Yes 10 years ago ppl would celebrate their extra functions, but today it's intrusive, useless or duplicit. That's why unique Samsung features are now dead (multiwindow etc) as Android implemented it. Xiaomi insists on their irrational UI, worst Settings UI hierarchy in the industry and replacement of everything. There's literally nothing innovative in the UI except single functional extra - data usage control - and you get more functions in AOSP. Few non-innovative things to like? Sure, notif lights, charging animations, call recorder not hidden.. But that's nothing new. The stuff like disabling all notifications and auto starts until users enables it, is insane. Memory management is a joke. Overriding all system dialogs is pathetic. Inserting wait times in confirmation popups is aggressive. Intrusive download manager is good just to block desired downloads from Google etc. Fantastic Pie features (QuickStep, switch apps by navbar) are disabled. Minimal difference in Global vs EU version spotted, i'd prefer global one and delete few extra spy/bloat/malwares myself just because of the ugly icons.
But anyway, I like that webpage. Thanks. It's cool to cook a ROM. Wished the updates were via OTA and directly from OS. They rip some more crap off, which is so much needed in Xiaomi phones. The question is: does mi-globe keep modified 3rd party app icons like Xiaomi.EU? Does Magisk18.1 work? I'd like to try luck with version 18 to improve battery life.
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I don't have time at the moment to address every point you make in detail. But I wanted to respond with a couple of brief suggestions that hopefully help. When I first tried Miui, I also hated it. But, I ended up trying it again and again via custom roms and eventually grew to love it. Many of the quirks have a workarounds, and some things that seem to be missing can be found deep in device settings, developer options, or app settings. You can often find some good info using the Mi Community app.
First full disclosure, I have a Mi8, my brother is the one with the Mi9. He travels alot for work and isn't very technically adept, so he is mostly fine with his phone as it is. As you know the Mi 9 is still so new and many of the stock AOSP features will be available to you when custom roms arrive...it will not be long.
The OTG issue that you are experiencing is tied to the version of TWRP that you are using. OTG will end up working and apparently it does work with some versions. I would guess that you are already experimenting on your own to find the right one.
Since no official version yet exists here is one that I found that supposedly works well : https://mega.nz/#!CH5jgYTB!yNqOiVoo3cf0_15jIwZ-btO52cvpOG7iZrRCe19V2Nc and Here is another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431805&postcount=215
Unfortunately, you will have to wait for a highly stable TWRP to become available that is able to survive through updates and remain in tact. We had these types of issues with the Mi8 as well, and I have had similar issues with my previous phone. But eventually things should work as expected.
I don't know how well you know Miui, some of the things you are missing can probably be activated deep within settings. For example, if you turn off Miui Optimization within developer options you can the install and use your missing Pie features. Such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.wellbeing&hl=en_US
I use gestures instead of the NavBar, now that I have become used to it I can't stand using buttons. Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings. Once I receive that notification, I will usually manually go to the Mi-Globe page and download their updated version, and dirty flash it over the previous version. Occasionally I will need to reflash Root. But most of the time it persists. I keep a magisk flashed backup boot image in downloads just in case.
I use Magisk 19 Canary and have never had issues with root.
Good Luck

tsongming said:
Since no official version yet exists here is one that I found that supposedly works well : https://mega.nz/#!CH5jgYTB!yNqOiVoo3cf0_15jIwZ-btO52cvpOG7iZrRCe19V2Nc and Here is another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431805&postcount=215
Unfortunately, you will have to wait for a highly stable TWRP to become available that is able to survive through updates and remain in tact. We had these types of issues with the Mi8 as well, and I have had similar issues with my previous phone. But eventually things should work as expected.
I don't know how well you know Miui, some of the things you are missing can probably be activated deep within settings. For example, if you turn off Miui Optimization within developer options you can the install and use your missing Pie features. Such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.wellbeing&hl=en_US
I use gestures instead of the NavBar, now that I have become used to it I can't stand using buttons. Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings. Once I receive that notification, I will usually manually go to the Mi-Globe page and download their updated version, and dirty flash it over the previous version. Occasionally I will need to reflash Root. But most of the time it persists. I keep a magisk flashed backup boot image in downloads just in case.
I use Magisk 19 Canary and have never had issues with root.
Good Luck
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Thanks for a good reply.
Yes TWRP situation is tight right now, with "xiaomi9" vs "cepheus" errors, variety of gapps errors etc.. Testing all of them. Good to know this beta exists, i missed this recent info even when active on forums currently. I tried now and it looks great. Luckily on this phone encrypted sdcard doesn't cause any problem with flashing, so i'm ok to wait for TWRP updates.
I agree the full screen gestures are fantastic, i used them on Note9, 6T and Mi9. All of these phones customize original Pie navigation. Once i saw the original behaviour in AOSP ROM, the Pie task manager "Recents" with "QuickStep", and the navbar, i enabled buttons as this is so productive.. Scroll through full screen app previews back and forth, or swipe up app drawer from any app, hmmm. So cool.
Alright, OTA looks great. Although I believe OS doesn't know about your customization, so you better go to the webpage to decide which package to download.
I'm going to try this ROM. I'm not a gfx guy, i hardly ever used a wallpaper, but i really don't like the EU changes to app icons system-wide. I just can't look at 10 year old shortcut like TitaniumBackup looking different. Please let me know if you are aware of a fix. Thanks.

doggydog2 said:
Thanks for a good reply.
Yes TWRP situation is tight right now, with "xiaomi9" vs "cepheus" errors, variety of gapps errors etc.. Testing all of them. Good to know this beta exists, i missed this recent info even when active on forums currently. I tried now and it looks great. Luckily on this phone encrypted sdcard doesn't cause any problem with flashing, so i'm ok to wait for TWRP updates.
I agree the full screen gestures are fantastic, i used them on Note9, 6T and Mi9. All of these phones customize original Pie navigation. Once i saw the original behaviour in AOSP ROM, the Pie task manager "Recents" with "QuickStep", and the navbar, i enabled buttons as this is so productive.. Scroll through full screen app previews back and forth, or swipe up app drawer from any app, hmmm. So cool.
Alright, OTA looks great. Although I believe OS doesn't know about your customization, so you better go to the webpage to decide which package to download.
I'm going to try this ROM. I'm not a gfx guy, i hardly ever used a wallpaper, but i really don't like the EU changes to app icons system-wide. I just can't look at 10 year old shortcut like TitaniumBackup looking different. Please let me know if you are aware of a fix. Thanks.
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I forgot to mention DM verity, you can get it and read about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389.
Regarding the OTA, in my case it usually pretty seamless since Mi-Globe is based on the EU weekly build. ( I prefer these builds because they have more features and zero ads) However, the Global Stable to Weekly or vice versa usually requires a little more work. But you are correct, I want to know for a fact what I am flashing so I will usually just manually download the update if using the Mi-Globe build.
Backup
I haven't had alot of luck with using Titanium backup recently on any of my phones that have recent Pie roms. I remember reading something about it being due to some changes Google made with security in late February? However, the built in Local Backup has worked for me every single time except once. It will backup all apps, and many of the settings not covered by Google restore. Its my main source of restoring settings and for me works better than Titanium backup. There is also the option of using Mi-Cloud ( which I also use redundantly) Then of course we can sometimes restore a TWRP backup data.
There are several other options, including free options that are similar to Titanium backup. Programs such as Migrate I have not used it yet. but I have read that it works. Like the Miui Local backup, Migrate supposedly restores everything. Including apps, that are not from the playstore, apps data and even flashed system apps such as Pixel/Sony/Samsung Live Wallpapers and then the remaining Google restore just takes a couple of minutes

Running global MIUI now. the Battery life is great.
The cooked version with Magisk 18 indeed doesn't work. Just upgrade to v19.
QuickStep magisk plugin doesn't work, i keep trying even if it looks like first OS must be able to provide Pie functionality, then you can tweak. Therefore: AOSP only Stuck with this
XiaomiEU app icons can be removed here: non-destructively rename /system/media/theme/miui_mod_icons (thanksgod)

tsongming said:
Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings.
Good Luck
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didn't find this setting, instead i was offered with xiaomi_eu version from today so i downloaded and pressed install which is quite comfortable. The only glitch is need to wait til TWRP installation is done and press Vol+ button (new Magisk 19.1 feature since today) to root with dedicated TWRP button 'Install root' (comfy). Then do some maintenance as many permissions are reset. Luckily disabled apps stay disabled. I'd like to script this and stick to xiaomi_eu as practically there's just miuidaemon extra feature in miglobal.
two problems:
- "can't connect to camera" for portrait mode in stock cam
- TWRP sees unencrypted files, other TWRPs won't boot

tsongming said:
It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
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This mi-globe rom seems insane !!

Great for the money but with software bugs that affect the usability. Video stuttering at 30fps and notifications issues.

As always, MIUI is the problem from a Xiaomi device.
4 me, xiaomi.eu is not an option, since they use chinese builds as a basis. If anyone known a project similar to him, but based in global ROMs, I appreciate it. Tks!

I think the MI9 is the best phone out there because of
1. Software (it rocks, especially RevolutionOS debloated)
2. Camera (the best one on the market as of now)
3. Performance/Display
4. The notch (I feel uncomfortable having retractable camera + I think a waterdrop notch looks sick)
It charges really fast and battery time is pretty good! Amazing phone for 400€!

Bought mine for 300£ the 128gb version. At that price could have bought a oneplus 6 but this phone is amazing. Compared to the oneplus 7pro the size is great and performance is really good. Will definitely buy again. The only pain is having to wait for the bootloader unlock!

Bought mine 6/128 Gt version at 498 € price. After a week I decided to switch to xiaomi.eu rom and with some additional tweaks (debloating with Xiaomi ADB/FastBoot Tool) I start to feel that the software starts to match with the hardware. I love the design, it feels comfortable in your hands (I use the soft case what was delivered with the phone) and with the tweaks it feels quite snappy and powerful tool for everyday tasks. MIUI mostly sucks but luckily you can use Nova launcher. I've been satisfied with the camera at this point (especially with the ultra wide lens) but I think it can still be improved and I should give a try for the GoogleCam as well.

ROM ❯ PIXEL 4 XL ❯ OFFICIAL ❯ ProtonAOSP 11

ProtonAOSP
Android 11 ROM​
ProtonAOSP is a minimal Android fork (custom ROM) focused on UI/UX and performance, with a touch of privacy.
Screenshots
Screenshots of the latest version
Installation
This ROM is currently distributed as factory images, similar to stock. Flash it the same way you would flash stock factory images. Don't forget to wipe all data using "fastboot -w" before booting the ROM.
Firmware is included, so there is no specific requirement for which version of the stock ROM you are coming from.
You can also use the quick & easy web installer, which allows you to install and update the ROM from any computer or phone without using the command line. The installer works entirely within your web browser and completes in as little as 4 minutes, depending on the speed of your internet connection. Consider using the web installer instead of installing manually.
More detailed installation instructions and guides
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List of current features, with accompanying screenshots and explanations
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Downloads and changelogs for all versions
Builds with and without minimal Google services (gapps) included are provided for convenience.
Using the quick and easy web installer is recommended unless you have a specific reason to download and install the ROM manually.
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If you have questions or concerns, please read the Frequently Asked Questions before asking. It saves time for everyone involved, especially you, and allows us to provide higher-quality answers for all users.
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ProtonAOSP 11.5.0 has been released.
Changes:
• New website with comprehensive documentation and screenshots
• May security patch
• Added adaptive brightness toggle in QS (with UI tweaks)
• Added support for Pixel 4 and 4 XL
• Improved blur quality with state-of-the-art triangular RGB blue noise dithering and gamma correction
• Changed UI theme to Primer, modified with state-of-the-art color science (by patron vote)
• Better default ringtone, alarm, and notification sounds
• New photo wallpapers from Unsplash
• New space wallpapers from Infinitum
• Improved default Strange Landscape wallpaper (Infinitum)
• Low-level blur optimizations for GPU efficiency
• New, uniform blur strength across all devices
• Updated WebView to Chromium 90 (LineageOS)
• Updated Now Playing song database
• Enabled recents text selection for Pixel Launcher users
• Fixed network permission for multiple users (GrapheneOS)
• Pixel 2: Fixed SafetyNet attestation failures
• Pixel 4: Customizable Active Edge support
• Pixel 4: Unlocked always-on display setting (LineageOS)
• Pixel 4: Better connection to weak 5 GHz Wi-Fi networks
• Pixel 4: Night Light color temperature calibration from stock
• Pixel 4: Device and USB port overheating warnings from stock
• Pixel 4: Reduced background memory usage
• Pixel 4: Optimized native code for Snapdragon 855 CPU
• Pixel 4: Background app freezing for performance & battery
• Pixel 4: Smoother lock screen
• Pixel 4: More detailed face unlock errors
• Pixel 4: Disabled UI compositor debugging
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Cool I'll check it out

Do you really get 8 1/2 hours screen on time with 50% battery left? I only get 6 hours 25 minutes with 15% left with my current rom.

Does this ROM support WiFi tethering? I feel like I need to ask this because some roms don't.

Uhhh that's the best thing which could had happened to our Pixel 4 XL !!

kdrag0n said:
Usage with my Proton Kernel is recommended to get the most out of your phone. The ROM does not include Proton Kernel, so you will need to flash it yourself. The ROM will still work with other kernels, but you will not get the benefits of Proton Kernel.​
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Which one is included instead? As the standalone Proton kernel is only available for the Pixel 5, right?

Johnrob011045 said:
Do you really get 8 1/2 hours screen on time with 50% battery left? I only get 6 hours 25 minutes with 15% left with my current rom.
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Which is still far far better than on stock

Is your Kernel only for Pixel 5 I have looked all around?

Johnrob011045 said:
Do you really get 8 1/2 hours screen on time with 50% battery left? I only get 6 hours 25 minutes with 15% left with my current rom.
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Where did you see that? https://protonaosp.kdrag0n.dev/faq#battery-life
Johnrob011045 said:
Does this ROM support WiFi tethering? I feel like I need to ask this because some roms don't.
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Added to the FAQ: https://protonaosp.kdrag0n.dev/faq#hotspot-support
RogerF81 said:
Which one is included instead? As the standalone Proton kernel is only available for the Pixel 5, right?
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ahoslc said:
Is your Kernel only for Pixel 5 I have looked all around?
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That wasn't meant to be part of this post. Removed, sorry for the confusion.

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Where did you see that? https://protonaosp.kdrag0n.dev/faq#battery-life
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My guess is the picture in the "screenshots" otherwise I have no idea. I do not see battery anywhere else but I was also very curious when I read this myself.

GROOVYJOSHCLARK said:
My guess is the picture in the "screenshots" otherwise I have no idea. I do not see battery anywhere else but I was also very curious when I read this myself.
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Based on the screenshot, no mobile data and last charge was 3 days ago, it's probably a screenshot from a device that's not the daily driver and has been sitting on the desk for a bit, lol.
Android 12 is nice, but I want the full use showed in screenshots, so I'll flash back to 11 and run this tomorrow.

Curiousn00b said:
Based on the screenshot, no mobile data and last charge was 3 days ago, it's probably a screenshot from a device that's not the daily driver and has been sitting on the desk for a bit, lol.
Android 12 is nice, but I want the full use showed in screenshots, so I'll flash back to 11 and run this tomorrow.
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I am hoping someone using Proton now will see this and post a real life battery screenshot showing the actual battery estimates. Of course there's a billion factors that can cause battery life to suck and 1 user to get better than the next user, but a general pic would be nice.
I'm finishing up testing on the Bliss ROM 11 then I do plan to test the one next but it won't be right away.

GROOVYJOSHCLARK said:
I am hoping someone using Proton now will see this and post a real life battery screenshot showing the actual battery estimates. Of course there's a billion factors that can cause battery life to suck and 1 user to get better than the next user, but a general pic would be nice.
I'm finishing up testing on the Bliss ROM 11 then I do plan to test the one next but it won't be right away.
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I stopped worrying about battery life unless my phone is hot in my pocket for no reason, lol. Some people expect to get 8 hours SoT since one user achieved it, but 75% of that could be from watching media.
I don't average any crazy numbers for SoT unless I'm watching videos for hours.

Curiousn00b said:
I stopped worrying about battery life unless my phone is hot in my pocket for no reason, lol. Some people expect to get 8 hours SoT since one user achieved it, but 75% of that could be from watching media.
I don't average any crazy numbers for SoT unless I'm watching videos for hours.
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I actually find that my pixel 4XL has much better life than any other device I've owned. My HTC10 was that only 1 that almost compared. My pixel 3XL and 2 XL did not get anywhere near what my 4 XL gets but I'm also not a battery watcher myself. I just disable apps I don't want running, or remove the "boot" service for apps I don't want running, and limit what apps can do what actions (network/keep alive / wakelocks / etc) and my battery life is stellar in my opinion.
My original reply comment was more for a general idea than anything sound with facts.

Curiousn00b said:
Based on the screenshot, no mobile data and last charge was 3 days ago, it's probably a screenshot from a device that's not the daily driver and has been sitting on the desk for a bit, lol.
Android 12 is nice, but I want the full use showed in screenshots, so I'll flash back to 11 and run this tomorrow.
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It's from my daily driver, but I don't charge to 100% all the time or bother to clear battery stats. I don't share examples of battery life because it's highly personal and I don't want anyone to complain about it being worse than expected. My personal usage is very light compared to many others, so it's not a very good example to use here.

Hello. Does this ROM support pixel shifting future like in stock ROM to prevend oled burn-in

kdrag0n said:
It's from my daily driver, but I don't charge to 100% all the time or bother to clear battery stats. I don't share examples of battery life because it's highly personal and I don't want anyone to complain about it being worse than expected. My personal usage is very light compared to many others, so it's not a very good example to use here.
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Mine too for right now and it's really really good, battery is awesome so far! Check this out, last charge 12 hours ago and 86% left! I do prevent all apps I don't want running in the background from starting (SDMaid) and I do prevent many apps from using the internet (iptables). These help but even without them, the battery was really good!

Been running the ROM for a couple days now and I really like it. The new sounds are also very pleasant to the ear. I even set my transition animations to 1.5x speed and the animations make everything look better with my eyes.
Starting with barely any apps installed, instantly started off way faster than stock. Besides features missing due to be special to stock and tedious to port over, the only issue(graphical) I found is with the text clock on always on display, the icons overlap with the bottom text depending on what time it is.
Other than that, amazing work.

Just noticed my favourite ROM was dead for more than a year. What to choose?

I just noticed the ROM I have installed on my phone (Bootleggers) most likely died (their website isn't up anymore, there's no new threads about it, their GitHub/Sourceforge didn't have any recent activity at all etc.). I chose this ROM because of some neat features it had. And, that's the reason I'm asking this question today.
The features I want to have might be stupid for others, but they make me choose a ROM over another one and since I don't really have the time I had before to go through every ROM I see with support for my phone, I am asking everyone for their personal preferences.
A ROM for me must have (from the most to the least important):
- Must be de-googled/have a de-googled variant
- Support for signature spoofing (this is needed because I will use microG to actually keep getting notifications on my phone)
- Include as little proprietary programs as possible (yeah, I know Bootleggers didn't really do that), preferably only include open source apps (I don't care if they're fully free software or something, they can be anything open source and a little bit more privacy-minded without tracking or anything than others, I am willing to make some small sacrifices but I want to use as many open source programs as possible)
- Over the air updates (I think all have that but I'll still specify)
- Must be the latest version of Android
- Work profile/Shelter support (but I think that absolutely everything nowadays has that)
And now come the least important things, but ones that will still make me choose a ROM which has them over one which doesn't:
- It would be nice if the default apps looked modern, and maybe also had consistent theming, preferably one that syncs to the theming you do in the Settings app
- Smart Pixels (turn off a certain percent of pixels to save some power/reduce brightness even further to some degree)
- Always on screen
- Changing colors, fonts, QS tile styling, theming in general, the more the better, and here come the things I really really want:
- The 'CRT' lock screen animation
- The 'Type' lock screen clock (the one where instead of showing 10:19 it writes 'It's Ten Nineteen')
So, yeah, I'll be glad to hear all of your suggestions! Or, if anyone still knows anything about what happened to Bootleggers I'll really want to know

You can try Dot OS with similar features. I am sure you will like it.

mm_rajesh said:
You can try Dot OS with similar features. I am sure you will like it.
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Oh thanks! I used dotOS before, when it was some sort of Android 8 ROM trying to look like Android 9

Aicp rom, good and without google

Another Dot OS fan...