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Guys see this link . See they have done a miui port of DS with ICS framework . Its basically same miui but the main framework is a **** between miui and ics . I havent tried this ROM because kind of away from internet so guys with a chance Give it a go and share thoughts :
galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/ics-builds/
Our DS is under HTC. Please post differences and improvements too. Thank you.
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Well I've flashed it yesterday at 17:00....and I spent 9 hours after that to "learn" and play with my new phone I'll try to tell as much as possible about this ROM.
It is my first experience with a MIUI ROM and I must say I was impressed. All the settings are in totally different places or grouped in a different way compared to CM or sense ROMs I used till now. I can't say in which way differs from a normal MIUI ROM cause this is my first one to try as I said, but I can say some things I found out and compare them with the others ROMs I had
The first thing I was trying to get rid of was the...launcher. No offence to the MIUI lovers but I got used too much with CM or sense to like that launcher from MIUI. It may be fast and have good graphics but as I saw does not have a drawer and all applications are placed on separate screens as soon as they're installed (I think this is a MIUI characteristic). I've installed ADW Launcher EX which I've used since my old Legend and with which I'm familiar.
Apart from the launcher, I was thrilled about the graphical interface and the detail of each part of the theme. Someone in another thread said that "MIUI is about ALOT of customization"...I must agree. I've never seen a ROM having so many customization/theming posibilities with the exception of CM (or CM based ROMs). There are even backlight or LED settings to play with.
What I think that differs from the regular MIUI ROMs or CM having Theme Manager, is that there is an on-line theme database having ALOT of themes, each very well designed. One can choose each theme component and customize it to it's needs. Ranging from ringtones to status bar, notifications, screenlock, dialer and many others, each component can be selected from a different theme and matched alltoghether to create a unique one. The ICS theme I saw, it's very well made (though I never see the real ICS so I can't say if this is how it'll look like) you will see in all the print screens I've attached, as long as some settings screens with what cand be done.
The speed is...fast. I've done some Quadrant benchmarks with all my previous ROMs, I had 18000-2600 with CM 7.1 (OCed to 1500) and about 2000-2100 with Endymion V2.1 (also OCed to 1500). The lower benchmark values were due to an animated wallpaper I use curently (PuddleDrops), which drops the values. Having the same setup with PuddleDrops, in this ROM I got about 2000-2200 in Quadrant. Unfortunately I was not able yet to identify the speed at which processor runs so I can't tell if it's OCed by default or not. In Quadrant, the System Information does not show anything about the processor, only about graphics, I couldn't use OC/UV Beater cause it is not a supported kernel so...I don't know. But is not getting hot, battery life seems to be good (I've intensely played with the phone several hours and didn't drain the battery. There's also a battery monitor included with customisable notification.
WI-FI is good, have a stable signal but seems to find and lock onto the networks a little bit slower than the sense ROMs and I had ocasional "cannot reach network" messages. It's understandable , sense ROMs are the "kings" here cause they use proprietary HTC layer/drivers. But it is ok overall.
Network signal is great, I have almost all the time full bars, but I also live in an area where there is very good coverage, I think at this part all ROMs are similar, this one being a little bit ahead but not with much.
A feature I was thrilled about (dunno if it's a standard MIUI "thing" or not) is the firewall. It's the first ROM I see that has such thing integrated and "out of the box". And I'm not talking only about controlling the way each application has access to the net but also about filtering incoming calls and SMS's. You can define blacklists/whitelists and setup rules to block/reject/hide notifications for calls or messages. There is a firewall notification for each action (can be activated in settings) when running in "DND mode" and you can go dirrectly to the separate list for blocked calls/mesages from there. There's also option to automatically filter incoming unknown calls/messages. An addition to this is the "guard mode" that once activated, do not display at all any call in the call log or message in the message box. They're there just they're not shown up (alternate messaging apps like Chomp either FC or don't show them up in this mode).
There is an integrated data monitor also, showing traffic for Wi-Fi/mobile data separately and also accessing the firewall related to applications. You can set notifications for data limits you set and also see graphs with data traffic, number of incoming/outgoing calls and messages as well as individual application data usage.
Another feature that's standard for MIUI is the "power notification" swithes (CM has it also, sense has it in the quick settings) but in MIUI it's better cause you can customize it deeper and also having some switches I didn't saw in CM or sense ROMs...like the guard on/of or application access control on/of. Also the way to setup it as a grid or a single scrolling row it's awsome.
Having a standard dialer that can directly search in contacts (similar with the sense one), is another great addition. Standard for MIUI as I saw but a great feature. Of course this can be themed also separately. This makes me have no need of third party dialer as I was using in CM (DialerOne for ex). The ability to work with the contact groups directly is also very nice, till now I had to use a third party application. You can edit/add/remove groups, assign a ringtone to the group or send them messages
CONCLUSION! (no intention to troll, this is STRICTLY a conclusion from my point of view and it is not my intention to praise this ROM above the other great ones that are already out)
The ROM is great, dunno if it has or not some ICS "spice" in it but it's the only ROM I've played with, that almost doesn't require third party applications to be installed to have a total experience.
Sorry for the long post, I've tried to tell as much as possible to be usefull for others that never tried MIUI in general (or this ROM in particular). MIUI users can say alot more about the features and if they're "standard" in MIUI ROMs or not.
I'll also add print screens for each part I've detalied above, for each to see and compare. "A picture is worth a thousand words" it is said...and true
Enjoy...
Very nice review. Although I am a huge fan of MIUI, I don't trust this ICS builds. I've tested it for a day and it didn't impress me. So I am back to miui.us build, superkid did an awsome job.
Thanks a lot for this thorough review Rapier :-D
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
bioan said:
Very nice review. Although I am a huge fan of MIUI, I don't trust this ICS builds. I've tested it for a day and it didn't impress me. So I am back to miui.us build, superkid did an awsome job.
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You know better. As I said, this is the first MIUI ROM I've flashed. Now that I've got the MIUI "flavor", I'll be tempted to try some others as well and see if all have the same features with this one (or at least the ones that I need: firewall being on top of my list)
Don't know what to say about how much (or less) of ICS is in this ROM, if someone can tell what logs or checks I should extract (and how), I'll do it.
Fantastic Review; MIUI is most definitely the most complete ROM there is right now for Android. I had heard people say that it was too much like iOS and how bad that was; I was reluctant to try it, but once I did, I found to be more like a Ubuntu on Android, than iOS. That said, once you give MIUI a fair try, you won't want to go back to another ROM; MIUI is a complete package; it looks great and functions great.
How do we check out the ICS enhancements?
one big Review thanks a lot Rapier
Are there any major bugs on it? Coz I have downloaded it and I won't flash it until it is major bug free.
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Since I've flashed it I've played alot. What can I say is that has the "standard" bugs of MIUI:
1. Problem with the country code for the incoming calls.
Regardless of how you save a number in address book (that is with or without country code), incomming calls are displayed with 00 prefix and for incomming messages are displayed with the country code. For ex if I have the number stored as 0040721234567, when that person calls it'll be displayed as (00)0721234567 and when receiving SMS from the same person it will be shown as (004)0721234567.
That's not a big issue itself cause the caller is recognised and it's contact details, picture, ringtone, etc used, BUT...the integrated firewall does not filter the call/SMS properly cause it's looking for the whole number (including country code) and that's not a match. Saving the number without country code does not work either cause in that case the call is displayed the same (00)0721234567 but the firewall looks for something like 0721234567 (as the number is stored in the address book).
Way to solve it: Either add in the firewall BOTH numbers (like (004)0721234567 and (00)0721234567)) OR install a separate call firewall/blocker. I used the second option and installed the best available one (in my opinion) Call Master Beta available on the Market (original thread on XDA HERE).
2. Integrated MIUI dialer does not support "speed dial" keys. That is, you cannot assign a key for quick dial a number.
Way to solve it: Install a third party dialer (like DialerOne available on the Market) or live without speed dial.
These were the ones that bothered me, I heard about some "YouTube uploading" problems generally speaking in MIUI but not tested it.
What was a surprise (good one this time) is that the MIUI Control Panel (or Extended Settings how it's called) is working on this. I took the Extended Settings made for MIUI 1.11.11 and it's working even if this version of MIUI is 1.11.9.
Apart from these I couldn't find any problems (major or not) in 4 days of heavy usage
I do not see the diffrence between MIUI and this rom. If you install "NeonBT" theme all the colors and everything exept the lockscreen will look the same as in this rom. So yes its based on miui and i can see that
The only bugs i have in MIUI is the lockscreen is mostly slow, and worse then slow on some themes.
Dont use speed dial, so dont know what bug that is.
But there is no problem with country codes on my phone and ive used MIUI for the last months. And never had that issue.
I only want someone to tell me whats this ICS framework ?
Another bug is that the stock and Swype keyboards don't vibrate . It's really annoying.
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cool review but I think I stay at 'normal' MIUI and wait for MIUI 4.0 official release
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Way to solve it: Either add in the firewall BOTH numbers (like (004)0721234567 and (00)0721234567)) OR install a separate call firewall/blocker. I used the second option and installed the best available one (in my opinion) Call Master Beta available on the Market (original thread on XDA HERE).
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Hi, I live in UK and all of my contacts are saved with +44(1234567890) and in messaging app is all fine, i can see the names of contacts. but the problem is when i get incoming call i see the phone number instead of name for example the number saved in phonebook as +44(1234567890) on incoming call shows as 01234567890 so instead of +44 there is 0 . So as you advised I installed Call Master and i tried to set it up , i tried many ways and i still couldn't resolve the problem.
Any ideas? Please.
rayulove69 said:
but the main framework is a **** between miui and ics .
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rofl
didnt anyone recognize that???
eyahl said:
rofl
didnt anyone recognize that???
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LoL... I think we all did, but we were waiting for someone bold like you to come and point it out!!
BTW I've been following your posts all over the forum, and its nice to see one more active member in these parts. Haven't seen you here before the last couple of weeks or so...
In case no one else did it, here's a warm welcome to the DS scene.
Ok Guys, Its my first post here but I have been lurking around here for quite some time, so I wont be as annoying as most noobs I guess
Anyway, I've tried many different ROMs on my captivate and I find all of them to be pretty good but I am yet to find one which packs all the goodies I want. They are not too much to ask for IMO. I need your advice and suggestions on this.
I want a ROM with the following in it:
-Extended Power menu(Recovery, Download)
-Touchwiz4 or Touchwiz4.5 launcher
-Gpsfix
-SuperUser Enabled
-ICS boot animation
-ICS themed( but wiht TW4)
-Some Tweaks for more battery life
- Some cool lockscreens(Preferably the ICS lock should be there)
- Shouldn't scoop up too much of memory( In some roms I couldn't get more than 120mb free RAM even in idle state. I want at least 170mb free)
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Ok Guys, Its my first post here but I have been lurking around here for quite some time, so I wont be as annoying as most noobs I guess
Anyway, I've tried many different ROMs on my captivate and I find all of them to be pretty good but I am yet to find one which packs all the goodies I want. They are not too much to ask for IMO. I need your advice and suggestions on this.
I want a ROM with the following in it:
-Extended Power menu(Recovery, Download)
-Touchwiz4 or Touchwiz4.5 launcher
-Gpsfix
-SuperUser Enabled
-ICS boot animation
-ICS themed( but wiht TW4)
-Some Tweaks for more battery life
- Some cool lockscreens(Preferably the ICS lock should be there)
- Shouldn't scoop up too much of memory( In some roms I couldn't get more than 120mb free RAM even in idle state. I want at least 170mb free)
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Unfortunately, no one can tell you whats good for you. The only way to go about this is to read. From your questions, it appears that you dont appear too noob So, read the OP and last couple of pages of the threads. They should give a fair idea if anyone is facing any particular issues.
On side note; it appears KK4 source code has been released. So you may want to wait for some time before the magicians (Read: developers) wind their magic for ROMs and kernels.
If none of the roms have all the features...find one with the hardest to do (lock screen for example) and then add the rest in yourself.
This is xda...a place not only to download cool stuff..but also a place to learn how to do things yourself.
Like saying it needs to have a certain boot animation and launcher, that is EASILY changed.
I have found Fasty lll a real nice rom if you haven't tried it yet give it a shot. All you can do is try them to see if you like them.
knighted4
I've flashed MANY different ROM's, and not a single one has given me exactly what I wanted for features(Quite frankly, it's not the Dev's duty to fulfil my every wish). So what you end up with is, find a ROM that has as many of the most important features for you, that aren't apk related, load it, and modify it to suit your needs.
Truely, that is the best you're going to get. There are SO many different options available that it would be near imposible to find one that hits each and every thing on your list.......UNLESS you build the ROM yourself, and you can then cook it to suit your needs
No single ROM can fulfil your every desire...every rom has its highlights and low points but miui is better but u need to look for a touchwiz apk and install. On the bright side miui has customizable boot screen and lock screen
Sent from my I897 in the LION filled territory called Kenya using XDA App
This can turn in a redundant thread since every person has different needs.
On that note, thread closed.
Hi everybody,
I would like to present you my new app. If like me you forgot everything, I'm sure you will enjoyed it
It's called Goldfish Memory, so the goal is quite obvious It's a todo list, but a todo list mostly based on the location. I've noticed that when I've something to do, I know where to do it (at home, work, when leaving the subway, etc.) most than when to do it.
So with Goldfish Memory, when you create a new task you can set it a place and when you arrive at this place, you will receive an alert that you have something to do, whatever the time. Next, you can ask to be alerted again in 5 minutes or the next time you will come back to this place. It's quite simple and you can set any address you want.
As it's a todo list you can also simply define a date and hour at when you want to be alerted. If you combine both date and location, you will only be alerted when you arrived at the defined location, the day you've setted or, at the latest, at the hour defined.
It's a nice and simple app and I've just finished it so I would be happy if people try it and more if people like it ! Don't hesitate to give feedback (goods or bads) !
The app doesn't use GPS (too slow, not battery-friendly), only network location. The algorithm adapt itself to the current accuracy (which vary a lot) in order to find when to trigger a task. So don't worry, it will not drain your battery and it will work even inside buildings or underground.
The next fonctionnalities I've planned to implement are :
- synchronisation with some online todo list services (Google Tasks, RTM, etc...)
- add action buttons directly in the notification on Jelly Bean
- the possibility to repeat a task every days/weeks/months
- improve the algorithm for triggering a location-based task using the speed
- and more !
If you have other ideas, I would be glad to hear them.
It's free and on the Play Store so, if you are interested, you can try it now : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fourmob.geotasks
Great idea and app...but lets face it. GPS lock is slow on most devices and it kinda stops the whole purpose of this app. Now apart from that its a whole lot better then the paid apps that just give normal to do lists. Good job
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Hi, thanks for your comment.
You're totally right, that's why I don't use GPS, only network location : always available and battery friendly. Accuracy isn't always great but I've made a small algorithm that adapts itself to the current accuracy. I tweak it regulary to improve it, it's also why I'm looking for feedback. I'm quite happy of it for now.
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Hi, thanks for your comment.
You're totally right, that why I don't use GPS, only network location : always available and battery friendly. Accuracy isn't always great but I've made a small algorithm that adapt it self to the current accuracy. I tweak it regulary to improve it, it's also why I'm looking for feedback. I'm quite happy of it for now.
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Just update regularly and keep going. I cant even make the hello world thing so you should be proud that you can do something like this
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Great job, great idea, great design. :good:
Like gmaster1 said, its better than all paid apps I tried. Moreover, its free and without ads (very enjoyable).
Sometimes, Goldfish alerts me too far from the location I set. Not too bad because I snooze for 5 minutes later but it could be better! It would be interesting to accurate the position with real GPS fix. You can do this occasionally, randomly (with a heuristic) or thanks to an algorithm. What do you think about that ?
f.laurent said:
Great job, great idea, great design. :good:
Like gmaster1 said, its better than all paid apps I tried. Moreover, its free and without ads (very enjoyable).
Sometimes, Goldfish alerts me too far from the location I set. Not too bad because I snooze for 5 minutes later but it could be better! It would be interesting to accurate the position with real GPS fix. You can do this occasionally, randomly (with a heuristic) or thanks to an algorithm. What do you think about that ?
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Thanks for you comment
Due to the network location provider used by the app, accuracy can vary a lot (from 200/500m to 1500m) so, with my algorithm, the trigger radius varies with the accuracy. I prefer that the app alerts you too early that never. If it's too early, you can always snooze it like you said.
But I'm actively working on this part. In a future release, I think the app will sometimes turn on the GPS or Wifi in order to have a better accuracy. I'm still working on when to do that and it will be optional because I know a lot a people don't like that apps turn on/off sensors without asking. So, stay tuned
very good and user friendly design. I like the app and its very helpfull
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very good and user friendly design. I like the app and its very helpfull
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Thank you very much !
To be user friendly its one of my main goals. I've tried a lot of todo lists and if I've ended up making my own it's also because they tend to have too much options. In the end, they are more organizers than todo list. But me, I only need a todo list. So : Goldfish Memory
I like the orange fonds but try using the Light theme which is a white backround. It may look better than the black. Or give the user the option to switch between several as I dont particularly like blackish backrounds
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I like the orange fonds but try using the Light theme which is a white backround. It may look better than the black. Or give the user the option to switch between several as I dont particularly like blackish backrounds
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Why not. I will try it in a future release. Maybe an option to change the widget background too. Thanks !
Ok. Had it for 3 days now and no probs but...the widget. I feel it should be resizeable on ics (like fb widget on ics tablets) im not sure if this is too much to ask but its just that when i only have 1 task the rest of the space take up too much space i could use for other widgets. Maybe a small scrollable widget would be easier to make then resizable. So i can have the big widget when i need it and a small one when i want it. Or maybe widget buttons that keeps the widget small but changes current task the widget shows with 2 buttons. And maybe (just as a widget extra) add +task , delete task and edit task buttons for a better widget ui (the app ui its self is great)
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Ok. Had it for 3 days now and no probs but...the widget. I feel it should be resizeable on ics (like fb widget on ics tablets) im not sure if this is too much to ask but its just that when i only have 1 task the rest of the space take up too much space i could use for other widgets. Maybe a small scrollable widget would be easier to make then resizable. So i can have the big widget when i need it and a small one when i want it. Or maybe widget buttons that keeps the widget small but changes current task the widget shows with 2 buttons. And maybe (just as a widget extra) add +task , delete task and edit task buttons for a better widget ui (the app ui its self is great)
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Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, the widget is definitly something that will evolve in future releases. But, it is already resizable. Do you mean that it should be more resizable horizontally ?
Scrollable widget is already planned. Concerning more actions directly in the widget, I will think on how to integrate that.
I've planned a new release for the end of the week, so I will try to add the widget stuff in the next one.
This is an amazing idea. I love the concept and design of it. I have never really use any task reminder app before, but if i want to use one, that will be this app.
Thanks for developing and sharing the app here
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using xda app-developers app
if i don't turn my wifi on, it can't add a location
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if i don't turn my wifi on, it can't add a location
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@shuvarts : thanks you very much !
@oldsap :It was too beautifull : still no bug report
At which point it failed ? Are you using the quick task button or do you use the full form ? It's a strange bug because the only thing I can see now is that the app can't access to the internet (needed to make the translation from the coordinates to an human address). Do you have ICS with a quota for the network data ?
don't need this app. but came in to show support. this app looks so beautiful. awesome job on the design. flawless by the screenshots.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, the widget is definitly something that will evolve in future releases. But, it is already resizable...
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??? Im running ics stock rom on a device. 101 (not literaly) widgets are resizable but not goldfish mem...im not sure if its just my device or a bug in installation...
EDIT: installation bug i think. It now works and the horrizontal resizing could be added but...i dont think its too nessesary
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??? Im running ics stock rom on a device. 101 (not literaly) widgets are resizable but not goldfish mem...im not sure if its just my device or a bug in installation...
EDIT: installation bug i think. It now works and the horrizontal resizing could be added but...i dont think its too nessesary
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@Lieu10ant : Waou, thank you
@gmaster1 : very strange bug, I've never seen that. I will check the widget conf. But good news if it works.
¡Great idea! I don't really use this kind of apps but i've downloaded it to try it out as it seems like a friendly app.
Nice app, keep it up!
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi 9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi 9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I absolutely love the lock screen that shows the earth and moon in sync with realtime. And you can check notifications this way, swipe them away if you want, and when you put the phone down it will go to sleep immediately! And it will wake when you pick it up. Nice little touches.
It's great. Fast, bluetooth is working, sound quality is great, feels so premium, battery seems like it's doing well, the screen is magnificient, the camera fast and accurate. For a phone without OIS, I was pleased my little parakeet running up my arm could be captured sharply, she never stops moving.
So far, day one? I'm in love.
Real review
- super hard to unlock bootloader
- very easy to root then, with OTA and everything staying (main difference vs Samsung - no OTA, no bluetooth, no encryption etc)
- no Lockdown feature, even with external activities
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest)
- they override every app, every dialog, and modify even innocent com.android packages, so it's super hard to debloat
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever
- many of those million settings simply don't work, especially permissions, lot of glitches like double power key to flash is blocked by screen off action
- example of stupidy is battery section, have to click so much to see the chart and there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models?
- some settings are strong, like complex Data limits, AI remapping, call recording available without hack etc
- "AI" button easily programmable via Xposed
- nice to have apps like Music and Video which vanilla OxygenOS skips, but they're weak and no DLNA which is advertised
- volume buttons on the right? excellent, never ever could touch those on the left easily. However no easy shortcut for Dont Disturb (only the stupid long press to mute just ONE volume) and no activity for it available (to let Xposed handle it).. OnePlus wins with the dedicated button easily
- data collection and privacy agreements virtually everywhere, in any simple app (that's why AOSP would be lovely choice instead of XIAOMI ROM)
- battery life is insane when active (like pure 10 "configuration day" hours or 7.5hr with 31hr overall), got mediocre in standby after configuration (no good kernel exists, stock kernel is crap, not aware of deep doze, so pushing Naptime and Servicely at least, so far pushed it to est 78hr wifi_standby vs 178hr standby on 6T! update: pushed it to 267hr in a quick test, but real test req full charge and >3hr standby to be meaningful, anyway potential is there), still early to say what will be final 3g and wifi standby (in progress)
- notification ecosystem is very good (except by default they disabled notifications for most apps!), you can customize popups, AOD magic light (however AOD won't show any app icon for me), and the LED make sure you know about notification or charging (and charging produces very nice animation - very important for Qi to know you place phone right!)
- AOD exists unlike in OnePlus, and in battery app its got its own category
- overall fast, currently the fastest phone on market
- yet another Pie implementation of navbar with some crazy gestures from the left/right which collide with its own GBoard gestures (still the Oreo task manager was better)
- QC charging is fast and supports QC2-3-4 (that is very very good unlike properietary OnePlus charging, who's got OnePlus chargers around? Noone. Who's got QC chargers? Many), fast Qi not working on legacy chargers (not a showstopper as i like slow charge to treat battery right, and will have one 27W Qi for urgency)
- super fast face unlock during day, poor during night just like 6T as there's no infra, however 6T can raise identification chance to 100% with ugly but working display flash
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing)
- looks much better and less bulkier than 6T even in supplied cover. also 12g lighter but still heavy unlike sweetspot-weight champions S10 (157g) and S10e (150g)
- notch is bad, it cannot disappear smart like on 6T (with status bar still on, yes the newest versions adds change of shape - useless), to add to insult, the cutting of corners is wrong (prepare to see ugly fullscreen with different type of corner rounding)
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome)
- no IP certification, but ok to clean under water, not ok to immerse as the rubber in SIM card is poor quality, however display to phone is stuffed with branded water sealing solution
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work)
- night mode renders some gfx unreadable, but this is problem with every android phone
- screen is nice, and super bright if needed
Overall hardware is no brainer for the price, software is total crap.
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- super hard to unlock bootloader
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest)
- they override every app, every dialog, and modify even innocent com.android packages, so it's super hard to debloat
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever
- example of stupidy is battery section, have to click so much to see the chart and there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models?
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing)
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome)
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work)
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Well a nice feedback list, I just try to keep some points to clarify/to propose another perspective from another users to help others
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help --> This is not really a problem to many users, just find a computer and not many people really have a need to do anything flashing without a computer.
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest) --> Just put all those apps to a folder to forget it, and don't use them. easy, it doesn't take that much space. In EU rom, there's very few apps like that, and I can avoid them completely without removing or de-bloating them.
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever --> I found no problem this, you just change the one you need, in English there's nothing seems difficult to understand, at least to me.
- there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models? --> just turn % battery on that just one tick.
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing) --> It works 80% number of times for me, of course, can't compete with real physical fingerprint, but definitely not 50% for me.
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome) --> Defaut camera has night mode, + Google camera is a much better choice
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work) --> Yep, buy a camera glass protector + a case with the higher back which protect the camera
Some info hopes can help others as well.
It's weird that there are actually alternative ROMs, kernels, but not published here. Just installed the kernel with lovely wakelocks disabled. Hope it helps the terrible battery life.
The Xiaomi software is the worst seen while on XDA, cannot imagine it's even worse in non-EU version. Already thinking how life was easy with "configure and forget" 6T except omission of QC, QI and LED diod, which are the huge hardware advantages i'm dying for.
To make this phone usable, one needs to get rid of the software. The horror called MIUI. However switching to vanilla ROM brings common problems like on Samsung (Bluetooth not working, limited fingerpint, limited camera, no OTA). So the best would be heavily debloated ROM published here, injecting some vanilla stuff back. I'd remove Pemission manager, Security manager, clouds. Good luck!
Extra bizzare behaviour:
- if you don't set float notifications for the app, they will never show up (disabled for all by default so have to click hundred times just to change this settings, and another thousand clicks to recover other choices), however if you turn it on, they float notifications will be forced! (like VPN starting, navigation starting - events that never show up as popups)
- if you click clean memory from Security manager, battery manager or even "X" button in task manager, it will kill ALL apps (incl. apps which have highest priority due to notification, incl. VPN!) - how insane can this be?
- DLNA proudly in spec, but their apps can't cast or read UPNP folders, while all others can. But at least they can connect to Alibaba servers...
- nonstop popups about app going full screen (while there's no visual difference! already navbar gone because of Pie gesture setting)
- nonstop popups about downloading files on 3G (they had to touch this sacred group of processes too - Media+Download manager)
- you can change notification bar Setting icon to Search icon, feature mimicking the best Samsung's tool "Finder" except this one is weaker but with ad/spyware . Not only it won't trigger search but also you can't get to settings anymore (what if you don't have Settings icon in app launcher? reflash ROM?)
- boot keyboard.. are you kidding me.. unresponsive, hardly can type password there.. Shift equals Caps lock. Tt behaves like TWRP keyboard, don't type more than 1 character per second
I absolutely love Xiaomi devices but don't use them until I install xiaomi.eu rom. Of course you need to unlock it first and install TWRP but it's a must to get rid of some of the annoying things you wrote on your list. The roms are great and I use it on all of my Xiaomi devices. Check it out: https://xiaomi.eu/community/link-forums/roms-download.73/
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I absolutely love Xiaomi devices but don't use them until I install xiaomi.eu rom. Of course you need to unlock it first and install TWRP but it's a must to get rid of some of the annoying things you wrote on your list. The roms are great and I use it on all of my Xiaomi devices. Check it out: https://xiaomi.eu/community/link-forums/roms-download.73/
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The xiaomi.eu is so much better than the stock ROM ?
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The xiaomi.eu is so much better than the stock ROM ?
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It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
tsongming said:
It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
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no OTG in TWRP that's valid except one recovery ppl avoid as it's Chinese. It's a huge deal especially when you have a device without SD card. Just today had to escape home early to recover the phone..what a new way to operate.
After hundreds of flashes, test of all available ROMs (except this one), recoveries, kernels and full functional check on this particular phone i've a good overview. Overall Xiaomi is a very outdated, over modified bloated ugly software. They should start from the scratch to be honest. Yes 10 years ago ppl would celebrate their extra functions, but today it's intrusive, useless or duplicit. That's why unique Samsung features are now dead (multiwindow etc) as Android implemented it. Xiaomi insists on their irrational UI, worst Settings UI hierarchy in the industry and replacement of everything. There's literally nothing innovative in the UI except single functional extra - data usage control - and you get more functions in AOSP. Few non-innovative things to like? Sure, notif lights, charging animations, call recorder not hidden.. But that's nothing new. The stuff like disabling all notifications and auto starts until users enables it, is insane. Memory management is a joke. Overriding all system dialogs is pathetic. Inserting wait times in confirmation popups is aggressive. Intrusive download manager is good just to block desired downloads from Google etc. Fantastic Pie features (QuickStep, switch apps by navbar) are disabled. Minimal difference in Global vs EU version spotted, i'd prefer global one and delete few extra spy/bloat/malwares myself just because of the ugly icons.
But anyway, I like that webpage. Thanks. It's cool to cook a ROM. Wished the updates were via OTA and directly from OS. They rip some more crap off, which is so much needed in Xiaomi phones. The question is: does mi-globe keep modified 3rd party app icons like Xiaomi.EU? Does Magisk18.1 work? I'd like to try luck with version 18 to improve battery life.
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no OTG in TWRP that's valid except one recovery ppl avoid as it's Chinese. It's a huge deal especially when you have a device without SD card. Just today had to escape home early to recover the phone..what a new way to operate.
After hundreds of flashes, test of all available ROMs (except this one), recoveries, kernels and full functional check on this particular phone i've a good overview. Overall Xiaomi is a very outdated, over modified bloated ugly software. They should start from the scratch to be honest. Yes 10 years ago ppl would celebrate their extra functions, but today it's intrusive, useless or duplicit. That's why unique Samsung features are now dead (multiwindow etc) as Android implemented it. Xiaomi insists on their irrational UI, worst Settings UI hierarchy in the industry and replacement of everything. There's literally nothing innovative in the UI except single functional extra - data usage control - and you get more functions in AOSP. Few non-innovative things to like? Sure, notif lights, charging animations, call recorder not hidden.. But that's nothing new. The stuff like disabling all notifications and auto starts until users enables it, is insane. Memory management is a joke. Overriding all system dialogs is pathetic. Inserting wait times in confirmation popups is aggressive. Intrusive download manager is good just to block desired downloads from Google etc. Fantastic Pie features (QuickStep, switch apps by navbar) are disabled. Minimal difference in Global vs EU version spotted, i'd prefer global one and delete few extra spy/bloat/malwares myself just because of the ugly icons.
But anyway, I like that webpage. Thanks. It's cool to cook a ROM. Wished the updates were via OTA and directly from OS. They rip some more crap off, which is so much needed in Xiaomi phones. The question is: does mi-globe keep modified 3rd party app icons like Xiaomi.EU? Does Magisk18.1 work? I'd like to try luck with version 18 to improve battery life.
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I don't have time at the moment to address every point you make in detail. But I wanted to respond with a couple of brief suggestions that hopefully help. When I first tried Miui, I also hated it. But, I ended up trying it again and again via custom roms and eventually grew to love it. Many of the quirks have a workarounds, and some things that seem to be missing can be found deep in device settings, developer options, or app settings. You can often find some good info using the Mi Community app.
First full disclosure, I have a Mi8, my brother is the one with the Mi9. He travels alot for work and isn't very technically adept, so he is mostly fine with his phone as it is. As you know the Mi 9 is still so new and many of the stock AOSP features will be available to you when custom roms arrive...it will not be long.
The OTG issue that you are experiencing is tied to the version of TWRP that you are using. OTG will end up working and apparently it does work with some versions. I would guess that you are already experimenting on your own to find the right one.
Since no official version yet exists here is one that I found that supposedly works well : https://mega.nz/#!CH5jgYTB!yNqOiVoo3cf0_15jIwZ-btO52cvpOG7iZrRCe19V2Nc and Here is another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431805&postcount=215
Unfortunately, you will have to wait for a highly stable TWRP to become available that is able to survive through updates and remain in tact. We had these types of issues with the Mi8 as well, and I have had similar issues with my previous phone. But eventually things should work as expected.
I don't know how well you know Miui, some of the things you are missing can probably be activated deep within settings. For example, if you turn off Miui Optimization within developer options you can the install and use your missing Pie features. Such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.wellbeing&hl=en_US
I use gestures instead of the NavBar, now that I have become used to it I can't stand using buttons. Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings. Once I receive that notification, I will usually manually go to the Mi-Globe page and download their updated version, and dirty flash it over the previous version. Occasionally I will need to reflash Root. But most of the time it persists. I keep a magisk flashed backup boot image in downloads just in case.
I use Magisk 19 Canary and have never had issues with root.
Good Luck
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Since no official version yet exists here is one that I found that supposedly works well : https://mega.nz/#!CH5jgYTB!yNqOiVoo3cf0_15jIwZ-btO52cvpOG7iZrRCe19V2Nc and Here is another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431805&postcount=215
Unfortunately, you will have to wait for a highly stable TWRP to become available that is able to survive through updates and remain in tact. We had these types of issues with the Mi8 as well, and I have had similar issues with my previous phone. But eventually things should work as expected.
I don't know how well you know Miui, some of the things you are missing can probably be activated deep within settings. For example, if you turn off Miui Optimization within developer options you can the install and use your missing Pie features. Such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.wellbeing&hl=en_US
I use gestures instead of the NavBar, now that I have become used to it I can't stand using buttons. Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings. Once I receive that notification, I will usually manually go to the Mi-Globe page and download their updated version, and dirty flash it over the previous version. Occasionally I will need to reflash Root. But most of the time it persists. I keep a magisk flashed backup boot image in downloads just in case.
I use Magisk 19 Canary and have never had issues with root.
Good Luck
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Thanks for a good reply.
Yes TWRP situation is tight right now, with "xiaomi9" vs "cepheus" errors, variety of gapps errors etc.. Testing all of them. Good to know this beta exists, i missed this recent info even when active on forums currently. I tried now and it looks great. Luckily on this phone encrypted sdcard doesn't cause any problem with flashing, so i'm ok to wait for TWRP updates.
I agree the full screen gestures are fantastic, i used them on Note9, 6T and Mi9. All of these phones customize original Pie navigation. Once i saw the original behaviour in AOSP ROM, the Pie task manager "Recents" with "QuickStep", and the navbar, i enabled buttons as this is so productive.. Scroll through full screen app previews back and forth, or swipe up app drawer from any app, hmmm. So cool.
Alright, OTA looks great. Although I believe OS doesn't know about your customization, so you better go to the webpage to decide which package to download.
I'm going to try this ROM. I'm not a gfx guy, i hardly ever used a wallpaper, but i really don't like the EU changes to app icons system-wide. I just can't look at 10 year old shortcut like TitaniumBackup looking different. Please let me know if you are aware of a fix. Thanks.
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Thanks for a good reply.
Yes TWRP situation is tight right now, with "xiaomi9" vs "cepheus" errors, variety of gapps errors etc.. Testing all of them. Good to know this beta exists, i missed this recent info even when active on forums currently. I tried now and it looks great. Luckily on this phone encrypted sdcard doesn't cause any problem with flashing, so i'm ok to wait for TWRP updates.
I agree the full screen gestures are fantastic, i used them on Note9, 6T and Mi9. All of these phones customize original Pie navigation. Once i saw the original behaviour in AOSP ROM, the Pie task manager "Recents" with "QuickStep", and the navbar, i enabled buttons as this is so productive.. Scroll through full screen app previews back and forth, or swipe up app drawer from any app, hmmm. So cool.
Alright, OTA looks great. Although I believe OS doesn't know about your customization, so you better go to the webpage to decide which package to download.
I'm going to try this ROM. I'm not a gfx guy, i hardly ever used a wallpaper, but i really don't like the EU changes to app icons system-wide. I just can't look at 10 year old shortcut like TitaniumBackup looking different. Please let me know if you are aware of a fix. Thanks.
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I forgot to mention DM verity, you can get it and read about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389.
Regarding the OTA, in my case it usually pretty seamless since Mi-Globe is based on the EU weekly build. ( I prefer these builds because they have more features and zero ads) However, the Global Stable to Weekly or vice versa usually requires a little more work. But you are correct, I want to know for a fact what I am flashing so I will usually just manually download the update if using the Mi-Globe build.
Backup
I haven't had alot of luck with using Titanium backup recently on any of my phones that have recent Pie roms. I remember reading something about it being due to some changes Google made with security in late February? However, the built in Local Backup has worked for me every single time except once. It will backup all apps, and many of the settings not covered by Google restore. Its my main source of restoring settings and for me works better than Titanium backup. There is also the option of using Mi-Cloud ( which I also use redundantly) Then of course we can sometimes restore a TWRP backup data.
There are several other options, including free options that are similar to Titanium backup. Programs such as Migrate I have not used it yet. but I have read that it works. Like the Miui Local backup, Migrate supposedly restores everything. Including apps, that are not from the playstore, apps data and even flashed system apps such as Pixel/Sony/Samsung Live Wallpapers and then the remaining Google restore just takes a couple of minutes
Running global MIUI now. the Battery life is great.
The cooked version with Magisk 18 indeed doesn't work. Just upgrade to v19.
QuickStep magisk plugin doesn't work, i keep trying even if it looks like first OS must be able to provide Pie functionality, then you can tweak. Therefore: AOSP only Stuck with this
XiaomiEU app icons can be removed here: non-destructively rename /system/media/theme/miui_mod_icons (thanksgod)
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Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings.
Good Luck
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didn't find this setting, instead i was offered with xiaomi_eu version from today so i downloaded and pressed install which is quite comfortable. The only glitch is need to wait til TWRP installation is done and press Vol+ button (new Magisk 19.1 feature since today) to root with dedicated TWRP button 'Install root' (comfy). Then do some maintenance as many permissions are reset. Luckily disabled apps stay disabled. I'd like to script this and stick to xiaomi_eu as practically there's just miuidaemon extra feature in miglobal.
two problems:
- "can't connect to camera" for portrait mode in stock cam
- TWRP sees unencrypted files, other TWRPs won't boot
tsongming said:
It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
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This mi-globe rom seems insane !!
Great for the money but with software bugs that affect the usability. Video stuttering at 30fps and notifications issues.
As always, MIUI is the problem from a Xiaomi device.
4 me, xiaomi.eu is not an option, since they use chinese builds as a basis. If anyone known a project similar to him, but based in global ROMs, I appreciate it. Tks!
I think the MI9 is the best phone out there because of
1. Software (it rocks, especially RevolutionOS debloated)
2. Camera (the best one on the market as of now)
3. Performance/Display
4. The notch (I feel uncomfortable having retractable camera + I think a waterdrop notch looks sick)
It charges really fast and battery time is pretty good! Amazing phone for 400€!
Bought mine for 300£ the 128gb version. At that price could have bought a oneplus 6 but this phone is amazing. Compared to the oneplus 7pro the size is great and performance is really good. Will definitely buy again. The only pain is having to wait for the bootloader unlock!
Bought mine 6/128 Gt version at 498 € price. After a week I decided to switch to xiaomi.eu rom and with some additional tweaks (debloating with Xiaomi ADB/FastBoot Tool) I start to feel that the software starts to match with the hardware. I love the design, it feels comfortable in your hands (I use the soft case what was delivered with the phone) and with the tweaks it feels quite snappy and powerful tool for everyday tasks. MIUI mostly sucks but luckily you can use Nova launcher. I've been satisfied with the camera at this point (especially with the ultra wide lens) but I think it can still be improved and I should give a try for the GoogleCam as well.
I just noticed the ROM I have installed on my phone (Bootleggers) most likely died (their website isn't up anymore, there's no new threads about it, their GitHub/Sourceforge didn't have any recent activity at all etc.). I chose this ROM because of some neat features it had. And, that's the reason I'm asking this question today.
The features I want to have might be stupid for others, but they make me choose a ROM over another one and since I don't really have the time I had before to go through every ROM I see with support for my phone, I am asking everyone for their personal preferences.
A ROM for me must have (from the most to the least important):
- Must be de-googled/have a de-googled variant
- Support for signature spoofing (this is needed because I will use microG to actually keep getting notifications on my phone)
- Include as little proprietary programs as possible (yeah, I know Bootleggers didn't really do that), preferably only include open source apps (I don't care if they're fully free software or something, they can be anything open source and a little bit more privacy-minded without tracking or anything than others, I am willing to make some small sacrifices but I want to use as many open source programs as possible)
- Over the air updates (I think all have that but I'll still specify)
- Must be the latest version of Android
- Work profile/Shelter support (but I think that absolutely everything nowadays has that)
And now come the least important things, but ones that will still make me choose a ROM which has them over one which doesn't:
- It would be nice if the default apps looked modern, and maybe also had consistent theming, preferably one that syncs to the theming you do in the Settings app
- Smart Pixels (turn off a certain percent of pixels to save some power/reduce brightness even further to some degree)
- Always on screen
- Changing colors, fonts, QS tile styling, theming in general, the more the better, and here come the things I really really want:
- The 'CRT' lock screen animation
- The 'Type' lock screen clock (the one where instead of showing 10:19 it writes 'It's Ten Nineteen')
So, yeah, I'll be glad to hear all of your suggestions! Or, if anyone still knows anything about what happened to Bootleggers I'll really want to know
You can try Dot OS with similar features. I am sure you will like it.
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You can try Dot OS with similar features. I am sure you will like it.
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Oh thanks! I used dotOS before, when it was some sort of Android 8 ROM trying to look like Android 9
Aicp rom, good and without google
Another Dot OS fan...