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Hey there, I'm ready to buy a Pixel 2 and right now it's $100 off through Google. I'm with Telus and I heard they don't let you use features like VoLTE and Wifi Calling unless you buy the phone from Telus. So since Wifi calling is supposed to be rolling out for Android devices on the Telus network soon I don't want to buy it from Google unless I know those features will work.
Does anyone know if the Canadian Pixel 2s run carrier specific firmware, or will the Pixel bought from Google be the same as the Pixel bought from Telus?
Thanks
AndroidMark said:
Hey there, I'm ready to buy a Pixel 2 and right now it's $100 off through Google. I'm with Telus and I heard they don't let you use features like VoLTE and Wifi Calling unless you buy the phone from Telus. So since Wifi calling is supposed to be rolling out for Android devices on the Telus network soon I don't want to buy it from Google unless I know those features will work.
Does anyone know if the Canadian Pixel 2s run carrier specific firmware, or will the Pixel bought from Google be the same as the Pixel bought from Telus?
Thanks
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The 8.1.0 image with December security fixes has a different image for Telus, and on my Pixel 2, I have yet to receive the January security updates (I'm on telus with a phone received as a warranty replacement).
I currently have the Pixel 2. Am looking for an upgrade!
There aren't too many phones on the Verizon network in the US that allow an unlockable bootloader. I am hopeful that the newest OnePlus phone will. Does anyone have any information to confirm or deny that this phone will be available on Verizon with full 4G function?
Thanks!
I'm hoping too, want to replace my P3XL with something that has a larger screen, but hate Samsung's UI. Fingers crossed!! I believe the leaked "specs" on the Oppo site last week showed it as having the proper bands, BUT as we all know it has to be allowed by Verizon before we can really use it
I bought a unlocked oneplus 6t and put my sim card from Verizon in it but had no call service so I went to the verizon store and asked them about it I told them that the bootloader was unlocked they said don't care so the gave me a new sim card still no go so they let me talk to a tech guy they did some stuff and bam it was up and running. So I hope we can do it with the 7 pro on Verizon.
I would be coming from pixel 2 XL. Bought the non carrier specific variant from Google store, not from Verizon, and put my SIM card in it, and it works great on Verizon's network, without the locked down bootloader. I'm hoping the same can be done with this device. Looks very tempting as an upgrade.
I am in the same boat, this device based on a few of the leaks I've seen and concepts, looks absolutely amazing. I completely forgot OnePlus is not compatible with Verizon and although I am not hopeful the new release will support Verizon's bands, I would buy this device 100% if Verizon supports it. :fingers-crossed:
I'm hoping we can believe the pre-order Oppo page as it lists all the same bands as the 6T..........problem is, there is the same typo in the list of bands as on the 6T page so I'm guessing they just copy/pasted. So we still don't know for sure.
MisterCoolBeans said:
I am in the same boat, this device based on a few of the leaks I've seen and concepts, looks absolutely amazing. I completely forgot OnePlus is not compatible with Verizon and although I am not hopeful the new release will support Verizon's bands, I would buy this device 100% if Verizon supports it. :fingers-crossed:
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The onplus 6T introduced verizon compatibility, I find it hard to believe the next one wouldn't support it.
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The onplus 6T introduced verizon compatibility, I find it hard to believe the next one wouldn't support it.
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Precisely - why would OnePlus want to shoot itself in the foot? Breaking Verizon compatibility with the 7 Pro would, in fact, be doing exactly that. To be honest, merely the 3a (if not the 3a XL) are rather large (pardon the pun)
problems for the 7 Pro as it is - and for me, Verizon compatibility is not an issue at all - I'm on the T-Mobile half of Tracfone, and I'm not looking to go anywhere (I'm quite happy where I am service-wise).
Problem #1 - Neither Pixel 3a has a Notch. (At all.) That can't be said of the OnePlus 7 Pro - or 6T, for that matter. Even the 3a XL is - straight-up - $479 (migrating without trade-in (Just Black)). Cheaper than the 7 Pro or 6T, or any Samsung phone (that includes the S9, or even Note 9 - both of which would stick me with a notch). While I would not *mind* OneUI, I don't like being stuck with a notch. OneUI is not the problem; the notch, however, is.
Problem #2 - There *is* such a thing as Too Much Phone, What features do you *yourself* actually *use* on your phone? The very reason why I don't look for wireless charging is that I have it *now* (the S7 Snapdragon phones - such as my S7 - support it) - do I use it? No - therefore, why do I need it? USB charging - which the Pixel 3a and 3a XL, like my S7, has today - is supported - and is a feature I use.. The camera - even, if not especially in any flagship - and this *does* include the Pixel 3a/XL - is overkill, to put it bluntly. Why overpay for a feature I would barely use? (And I don't take selfies - at all.)
How do you figure that the 7 pro has a notch? Pretty sure that's its big draw is that it doesn't have a notch or cutout of any sort.
True, Pro has no notch!
foamerman said:
I bought a unlocked oneplus 6t and put my sim card from Verizon in it but had no call service so I went to the verizon store and asked them about it I told them that the bootloader was unlocked they said don't care so the gave me a new sim card still no go so they let me talk to a tech guy they did some stuff and bam it was up and running. So I hope we can do it with the 7 pro on Verizon.
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He probably added the APN for Verizon. You have to do that when you put in a new SIM sometimes.
Livestream over.......and we still don't know. No mention of Verizon
UPDATE: Gizmodo says it'll work on all carriers except Sprint.....: https://gizmodo.com/oneplus-7-pro-review-stunning-all-screen-design-thats-1834738811
Two places now saying it'll work with Verizon
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/14/...ile-announcement-release-price-specs-features
and
https://oneplus.gadgethacks.com/news/everything-you-need-know-about-oneplus-7-pro-0195362/
I think it's confirmed to be working with Verizon on their website, also now I'm kinda considering waiting because OnePlus may release an even more beefier version later in the year.
Also with the pricing, Flagship Killer has become just another Flagship device.
One Plus confirmed by chat with me it will work with Verizon in the US
Cowbell_Guy said:
I currently have the Pixel 2. Am looking for an upgrade!
There aren't too many phones on the Verizon network in the US that allow an unlockable bootloader. I am hopeful that the newest OnePlus phone will. Does anyone have any information to confirm or deny that this phone will be available on Verizon with full 4G function?
Thanks!
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I am using the OnePlus 7 Pro on Verizon with no issues .
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millerd79 said:
I am using the OnePlus 7 Pro on Verizon with no issues .
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
I just moved to T-mobile and got mine today
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
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Don't think so, according to OnePlus website it has cdma bands but even if it has to be registered as cdma-less it's no big deal. 6T worked flawlessly on verizon's network! And yes the OnePlus website confirms it works on Verizon!
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
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If this is the first CDMA-less device on your Verizon number, yes I believe you will need to chat/call VZW. I won't need to since it was already set up for my 6t for the SIM I'll use in my 7 Pro. I think it's based on the number, not the account as I have other family on my plan that have CDMA radios.
Hi all,
I was under the impression (could be wrong), unlike the OG Pixel and Pixel 2, the Pixel 3 series does not allow carrier's own firmware, which means everything it maintained by Google, such as VoLTE/VoWifi support.
With OG Pixel and Pixel 2, I know the ones directly purchased from Google may not always have VoLTE/VoWifi working with certain carriers. Is this the still the case with Pixel 3 series?
Cheers.
Currently every phone must be approved/whitelisted by carrier for VoLTE / VoWiFi or you must download carrier's app for VoWiFi (if they released it).
It's a good will of a carrier if they approve phones that are not sold by them.
Just a heads up for anyone in the UK on O2 as of the 19th September O2 are offering esim support to the pixel 3 XL.
If you want to upgrade to an esim simply go to your local O2 store or contact customer services to get an esim pack.
Setup is as simple as scanning a QR code and it took me about 1 minute to do. Just make sure you're on WIFI when you set it up so the details can be downloaded.
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Now just patiently waiting for 3 to offer esim
Do you get dual SIM dual standby? Thanks
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ma678 said:
Do you get dual SIM dual standby? Thanks
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No, not on P3/P3XL. That is a feature that has to be supported by the phone manufacturer, it's not dependent on the mobile provider 9aside from the few ones that sell phones with disabled functionalities, like Verizon in the US disabling the esim completely).
I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
Thanks,
Master K
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.
OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
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The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5
mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.