After further tests and results shared by others, it seems this doesn't fix the problem, feel free to share your placebo results.
Hey guys, I need testers for this fastboot command to figure out if it fixes inconsistent battery charging/discharging pattern.
So far I noticed a longer charging/discharging time and battery is starting to behave like other regular phones. I just need to know whether it is a placebo or actual improvement.
A simple command to fix battery, too good to be true.
DISCLAIMER:
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ARE TRYING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK AND THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE OF BRICKING YOUR DEVICE IF YOU GIVE RANDOM OEM COMMANDS (THESE COMMANDS CAN BYPASS BOOTLOADER SECURITY AND CAN BE USED IN KERNEL INJECTIONS) EVEN IF YOU ARE ON STOCK WITH A LOCKED BOOTLOADER.
DON'T TEST THIS IF YOU HAD WATER DAMAGE OR CHARGING PROBLEMS.
THANK YOU
Command to get current value (does not change anything):
fastboot oem config battery
The value is shown between <VALUE></VALUE> and you will notice stock value is empty.
Command to test for:
fastboot oem config battery "no_eprom"
Please note and share the battery percentage before and after making the change, then follow up with charge cycle changes if any.
Command to return to stock setting in case it becomes worse:
fastboot oem config battery ""
Command to AVOID:
fastboot oem config "test"
With this option the battery percentage seems to get stuck at 52%(don't recommend trying), this option is dangerous as it can cause the battery to overcharge or discharge under operating voltage and can cause data corruption/loss.
Utag description:
Name="battery"
protected="false"
description= battery detection control
"test" or "no_eprom"
Thanks and in case someone who knows what exactly this command does please share the knowledge.
Happy to test if this is for the erratic battery discharging problem? Coz mine has this problem and I've tried anything and everything I've come across on the internet. Now I am on the last and final attempt and have ordered a replacement battery from AliExpress to try and replace it myself. If that too fails, the phone is going into the bin (e-Waste one though).
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Happy to test if this is for the erratic battery discharging problem? Coz mine has this problem and I've tried anything and everything I've come across on the internet. Now I am on the last and final attempt and have ordered a replacement battery from AliExpress to try and replace it myself. If that too fails, the phone is going into the bin (e-Waste one though).
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I just too bought a $10ish Ali battery the other day. This issue is ridiculous. I swear it had to do with the Oreo update, because these battery charging/symptons were acute only immediately after the update a few months ago. Only say this because my buddy who had his Z since around release also started having the same issues around the same time as me, but I only been using mine for about a year.
Anyways I tried this no_eprom command. Moto Z Droid Edition (Verizon), locked bootloader of course, but the command/value sticks. Don't have much faith though since my battery drained 15% just typing this message...
Tested... unfortunately no change in battery charge/discharge behavior... It is as weirdly random as before.
Yeah after 2 charging cycles it started behaving irregularly again. Had some hope it would at least fix the way battery percentage is read.
Unfortunately it seems this is indeed a hardware problem, probably dead cells in the battery which cause sudden drop in percentage.
Currently my battery drops to 80 from 100 (after full charge) and from 24 to 4 (before low battery shutdown).
It's definitely related to system load (which is why people blamed the 7.1.1 update, as system updates tax the system pretty hardcore for 30 minutes or so). For me, I started noticing an issue with my new Hasselblad mod. The camera uses a ton of battery - namely zooming and the flash is horrendous. It's a shame that a battery wasn't included in the mod (or at least a capacitor array).
I believe the "best" fix would be to limit the processor in some way - or if possible - limit the battery draw in software. This is why you'll see a drop from 80 to 20% or shut offs at lower percentages. The system incorrectly assumes that the sudden voltage drop is indicative of percentage and signals a poweroff. In my case with the hasselblad, the camera tries to pull more volts than the battery can provide.
So the real fix is to either get a new battery (the issue is that Moto is squeezing the lithium too thin) or figure out a software solution to limit it to like 2volts or something (which would make it laggy as all get out)
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Is it just me, or is there something wrong with the battery level indicator with Wm6?
At first i thought it was my battery, but now i bought a brand new one, and it still dies at around 50%.
The actual battery length is correct, so it's not that critical, but it's nice to have the low battery warnings at 15% 10% etc...
Is there a solution (or work being done) to this? IF not, post your experience here, so we can try find out who it's affecting and why. (I know i'm not the only one with this problem)
Using that pro business v3 and radio 1.17.
bheam said:
Is it just me, or is there something wrong with the battery level indicator with Wm6?
At first i thought it was my battery, but now i bought a brand new one, and it still dies at around 50%.
The actual battery length is correct, so it's not that critical, but it's nice to have the low battery warnings at 15% 10% etc...
Is there a solution (or work being done) to this? IF not, post your experience here, so we can try find out who it's affecting and why. (I know i'm not the only one with this problem)
Using that pro business v3 and radio 1.17.
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I use a create WM6 ROMS and don't have any issues with my battery (it goes down to 1%)
So I would like to suggest a few things...
1). ALWAYS fully charge your battery before any ROM update.
2). NEVER buy a non OEM battery (cheap knock-offs)
3). UPDATE your bootloader to the latest version.
If you have followed the above steps and still have issues, then I would suspect you have some type of hardware issue. To check this flash the OEM ROM back to the device and see if the problem still exists.
Let me know how it goes for you...
Take care,
-Jwrightmcps
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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KungFuCracka94 said:
What you have described is normal for our device. Remember that the battery percentage is just an estimate of your actual charge. In addition, you find your phone shutting off around the lower percentages as a result of the device attempting to prevent damage to the battery. That is what the HOXl was designed to do.
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Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
Do you allow full charges after these "forced shutdowns" occur? This should cause your battery to recalibrate.
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NexusS4gFreak said:
Last night when it did it, as it has before, i was still on 21%.... thats not normal. And this isnt my first android nor first htc, never happened before. Even on my aunts old one s it didnt happen
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The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Ive had my htc one x for maybe 5-6 months which is almost the longest ive ever been on one phone and i love(d) it, but its always been doing something very strange and aggravating that seems to be getting worse. Battery drain has always been a problem for me with this phone but ehh i can deal with it, but once my phone gets down to about 14% which is does often because of the draining it starts acting real funny with its power and sometimes goes from 14 down to 5 in an instant literally out of no where and as soon as i plug up itll go right back to 13, or itll shut down entirely at 14% but i can just cut it back on, or itll shut down in the middle of me doing something and i have to charge it for about 5-10 minutes before itll even come back on. The latter happened last night btw. No matter what combination of roms/kernels i try this always seems to be a problem. I really cant deal with this anymore and its to the point where i wanna throw my phone into a wall and just buy another one, which im seriously thinking about doing at this point. If such thing has happened to anyone before or you have insight on this can you please help before i just give up hope completely.
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When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Madcat8686 said:
The battery behavior on this phone has been interesting. I have the battery last over two weeks on airplane mode and I've had the battery last just a couple of hours with just a stock setup. There are so many factors that play into this. I work in an area with very little to no signal reception and my battery life goes crazy and the phone can get really hot while I'm there so I've seen the best and worst.
What I do to counteract this bad behavior:
1. Charge prior to 40% (I've had the phone go from 40% to zero instantly before)
2. Consider your signal reception and either try out different radios or use airplane mode to reduce erratic battery drain
3. Install a 3rd party app like batterycalibration (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en) and use that when things get hairy (I calibrate every two weeks or so and that does the trick for me.
My phone has been like this since I pulled it out of the box. With a little management, it is just fine. You have seen it before but I'll say it again, you have to get through a few charge cycles when flashing a new Rom to get back to normal.
Hope this helps. It works for me and I work in a cell phone reception hell.
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Ive done all three methods youve mentioned before and still same thing. Also im on 3/4 bars with lte 90% of the time so no reception issues here. And with my current setup ive been running it for about 2 weeks.
DESERT.TECH said:
When a new ROM or kernel is flashed you need to let battery settle for at least 48hrs before you get super worried about battery. If possible during that time let device fully discharge then charge up to 100. Please use a battery monitoring app and then see what's causing the issues. With proper config hoxl will get good battery life. There is always the chance its hardware issue but doubtful as battery prolly would of completely failed by now. Also check your screen brightness settings. Hope this helps
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Ive always let the rom settle in and i constantly maintain the brightness on around mid level (mirror screen protector so i cant go too low) but its not just one rom or a few, its with every rom i flash ad that consists of most roms available for this device
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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timmaaa said:
The battery behaviour you described is completely normal if you understand how a battery of this type works, and if you understand how the software (especially the display of battery percentage) works in conjunction with it.
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all. Also i cant get it to charge too 100% for anything. So if theres no fix to this, anybody want a one x with a troublesome battery?
What I'm saying is the battery percentage displayed by the software is never exact, it's only an estimate based on the voltage level of your battery. Your battery sounds like its long term life (capacity) has been decreased over time and possibly bad treatment (allowing the device to discharge too much too many times).
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So youre telling me having the phone get to 22% and instantly drop to zero and power down is normal? Makes no sense at all.
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Depends on what you define as "normal". Such behavior is certainly not unheard of (although you particular collection of symptoms may point to a more serious issue, which I'll get to later). Couple things you have to remember: the battery meter is far from accurate. Being off by 10% or more is not unusual (completely normal). So jumping from 5 to 13% as you mentioned is not out of the question. The battery voltage is not actually jumping around, just the % battery number that the phone is assigning to various voltage readings. Reading errors happen, and if a jump is noticed, its just the meter correcting itself.
Which brings us to the other point that should be kept in mind: the battery % is not a "real" measurement. Its just a number assigned to various voltages to give the average person a sense of how much battery is left. Its a completely fabricated and artificial measure that just gives some relative sense of when a user should charge their battery. Phone makers just decided to use a system that average people would understand, like the fuel gauge on a car. Zero doesn't really mean zero (or anywhere close), but reporting in voltages would make no sense for most folks. Also, as we all well know, just because (for example) it took you 12 hours to drain the phone to 50%, does not necessarily mean the phone will last another 12 hours to drain the remaining 50%. It all depends on what you are doing with the phone during that time. Which leaves the question: What does the % battery really mean? Really, not a heck of a lot.
On the other hand, the battery failing to charge to 100% is troublesome, as is the apparent frequency of the meter drops and the fact that the issue remains after various ROM flashes. Leads me to believe there may be some hardware issue going on.
The short answer: IMO while some of the individual symptoms are not unusual, the seeming frequency (you haven't exactly quantified this, but it seems relative frequent just based on your descriptions) may suggest a larger issue, but its not certain.
Thanks it explained a lot but it happened again today, went to the store with ~36% on the meter and walked out, haven't touched it at all, phone was completely dead. Tried to charge and it went to 6% and stopped charging, all signs showed it was charging but it was stuck on 6. Then it started climbing again and reached about 16% and actually started losing charge while on the charger. Switched over to my portable battery charger i just got and it held the charge at about 5% for ~30 minutes, which is what it was when i plugged it in and started to charge, then it stopped againand during the whole process the phone was getting very hot. Yea im getting a new phone :/
Greetings;
Im having a weird issue (again - but with different device now).
After re-flashing about 4 or 5 times my p3110 with stock firmware (i never used customs) my battery wont charge to 100% anymore... It will reach 99% and wont reach 100%.
This happened to me previously with i9003.
Actually with i9003 everytime i flashed my device the battery would show a lower value each time.
Also; with i9003 i used Custom Roms; and used to " Erase Battery Stats "; wich such erase seemed to be the problem.
Since i've never erased my stats (to keep my device as close to factory as possible); what could be causing this issue?
Any experts on this matter that can provide me accurate info?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards;
Richard
rgxHost said:
Greetings;
Im having a weird issue (again - but with different device now).
After re-flashing about 4 or 5 times my p3110 with stock firmware (i never used customs) my battery wont charge to 100% anymore... It will reach 99% and wont reach 100%.
This happened to me previously with i9003.
Actually with i9003 everytime i flashed my device the battery would show a lower value each time.
Also; with i9003 i used Custom Roms; and used to " Erase Battery Stats "; wich such erase seemed to be the problem.
Since i've never erased my stats (to keep my device as close to factory as possible); what could be causing this issue?
Any experts on this matter that can provide me accurate info?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards;
Richard
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The first thing that must be checked here is that wall charger and usb cables are not at fault. It maybe a coincidence that happened at the same time you started flashing stock firmware.
2nd depends on the firmware which you have chosen,
Different firmwares have different ways of working. Some have blocking modes, some have power saving modes, different set of features, different bugs as well too.
It might be a glitch altogether as well.
Nobody can explain this exactly accurate unless you try these options. Mine aee just aimed at pointing you to the right direction.
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One more point, tried discharging it completely? Then charging it in offline/online mode?
Now what about battery stats?
Erasing battery stats, well if you have searched on google about it, you would have seen mixed comments about it's affecting battery life, some says it does help, some says it doesn't.
Some feels It's better to do it and
some prefer better to leave it untouched.
My experience on same issue
I had 2 same sduos devices.
on both I used to flash roms
Custom, stock, everything.
Only difference was, on first one, I did erase battery stats many times.
And the second one I didn't ever touched it.
Result-well the first one, I got 4 other batteries replaced for it, and even the new ones would have trouble keeping the charge on the device after I wiped the battery stats. I couldn't blame the battery stockist for giving me 4 faulty batteries. Battery levels were erratic on stock, on custom.
Second one seems working pretty much nicely and i still haven't replaced the original one. Although on this, sometimes I have a glitch, where battery level would drastically go down after restarting the device and slowly build up to the same level without charging.
I know it's a glitch coming from the custom kernel side. Altogether it's better this way.
Greetings Billysam;
Thanks for your repply.
I aleady had checked both (Charger and Cables) they seem to be just fine.
Yesterday i decided to give my p3110 a good rest while charging and finally it charged completely.
Seems like the last 1% (to achieve full battery charge) requires a little bit more time than usual.
It may have been something related to the last flash i've done or due to constant use.
Stil... It is hard to point out what has really happened.
I was a little bit affraid that my battery or System got messed up somehow.
Do you know if flashing affects the Battery Stats in any way?
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Greetings Billysam;
Thanks for your repply.
I aleady had checked both (Charger and Cables) they seem to be just fine.
Yesterday i decided to give my p3110 a good rest while charging and finally it charged completely.
Seems like the last 1% (to achieve full battery charge) requires a little bit more time than usual.
It may have been something related to the last flash i've done or due to constant use.
Stil... It is hard to point out what has really happened.
I was a little bit affraid that my battery or System got messed up somehow.
Do you know if flashing affects the Battery Stats in any way?
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The last one percent does take extra time to reach that last 100% charged level.
The answer to your question is Yes and no.
Where is batterystats stored? It's stored inside root/data/system folder
When you flash or format your device data, it gets wiped too as well
So, Yes. cause it got deleted even when you only deleted data.
It affect battery No. Why?
What information that file has? Is it really important?
Information that you see in settings battery
It holds record of all the past history not the current ones. Or future ones.
Now you decide.
Greetings;
Superb Answer!
Exactly the answer i required.
That gives me whole new perspective, and confirms my theory regarding past and new files when flashing.
rgxHost said:
Greetings;
Superb Answer!
Exactly the answer i required.
That gives me whole new perspective, and confirms my theory regarding past and new files when flashing.
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Further additional bummers
I was checking the batterystat in my device, and to my findings i saw, the file got modified after I full charged the device. So, it gets rewritten/modified/deleted after each full cycle. So, regardless of flashing rom or data, that file is constantly deleted, modified and created!!
Now suppose if I decide to delete that file holding my current charge capacity information, or the better so called "battery calibration" or "wipe battery stats" from cwm, which is nothing more than deleting it the same way from a root manager.
The file would be created again after restart, with new stats, which could be random or the lowest or highest values, according to the algorithm. Which would be seriously clueless of what the heck did happened to it!
That should clear why people claimed to have good and bad experience with their battery stats.
Even if their battery were good, the stats showed it bad and vice versa.
The algorithm is not at all easy to crack, let alone be calibrated. Even If someone would try to do it, Highly impractical, nor worth it. False claims.
Easiest was deleting it, thinking of it as a refresh, users would do it. And termed the coin calibrated.
"Got better", worked!!
No? Keep Wipe again and again.
So many apps were popular for calibration as well that time. Around 4 years back. I Can't remember their names but i did tried them as well!, in the beginning!!
I did learn from my mistake over the years, thanks to you I looked for answer inside me today. Although I stopped that habbit long ago, but you reminded me of digging deeper today
It should never be done.
Greetings Billysam;
Thank God i'm not the only one reaching such conclusion.
I've done pretty much the same steps; except i didn't knew what to check within the "battery stats" file, and i wasn't aware of the algorythm behind it.
I've tested pretty much those applications as well by that time with my i9003. (Back then someone said iDeleting Battery Stats / Calibrating had a "bogus" effect...)
Well.. I did noticed lots of differences each time i Deleted the " Battery Stats " - Either with CWM or through some application.
Sometimes Good improvement, sometimes terrible (until battery got fat, and stopped charging completely - Actually my i9003 is stuck at 60 or 80%, it simply wont go further).
After so many "Mistakes" on my i9003 i realized that the Battery Stats should be left untouched to prevent any " damage " / issues. I just didn't had a clue what exactly was behind that " Battery Stats " file ( Changes and Operations - or Code if you Prefer)
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With all this being said and tested.
It seems Logical that Whenever we put a device charging, it should charge completely without interruptions.. Else it may or may not corrupt the file, algorythm or make the battery faulty.
Maybe these are the reasons why manufacturers advice people to fully charge their devices, and in some devices to "Not Fully Discharge " them.
Ofcourse, this is just a theory.
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All of a sudden my battery started draining rapidly. See the attached screenshots for ref. I thought maybe it was a software bug since it started happening 2 days ago. I tried booting into the safe mode and the fast drain didn't stop. I also did hard reset with same result. At this point I'm thinking about getting new battery. Just wanna see if xda community has any tips if maybe I've missed something. It's just strange that this sudden degradation happened overnight.
Obviously, that draining is not normal.
In the upper left corner there is a warning that some app is running in background.
When you did the hard reset also you did a restore from some backup? Is the device warm/hot?
Sometimes it shows carrier utility or people apps running in the background. I restored from Google backup (forgot to mention in the OP). Device isn't hot at all.
i stared clean with LeeDroid ROM (had original Sprint ROM on) after wiping the data and the fast battery drain remains. at this point i'm going to replace the batter since it's not a software issue.
I'd definitely say your battery has shat itself. I'd also try something like gsam or battery info in *#*#4636#*#* to see the health of your battery. I'd be interested to know if it reports it as "good" health
It's strange but the standby seems to be better now whereas it was going fast before. Thought maybe it 'fixed' itself, however during a phone call (4min) I lost %3. That's definitely not normal 4636 is not showing any battery info. Can't find anything in gsam showing health status of the battery. Is it in pro?
If the battery drains fast during calls can be due to poor/weak network reception (the modem tries to maintain the best quality and scans the network over and over).
3 sot with 50% (or little more) battery left is a good value, in my opinion.
Oh, when recoveries are made due to some problem is better to not restore from backups. In that backup can be the app or setting that is causing the problem.
Anyway, with the last google play services (14.7.99) I also have noticed a bit more drain during standby.
Sounds like you need to replace it
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All of a sudden my battery started draining rapidly. See the attached screenshots for ref. I thought maybe it was a software bug since it started happening 2 days ago. I tried booting into the safe mode and the fast drain didn't stop. I also did hard reset with same result. At this point I'm thinking about getting new battery. Just wanna see if xda community has any tips if maybe I've missed something. It's just strange that this sudden degradation happened overnight.
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I have about the same issue. The battery is draining too fast and it's very noticeable when idle, even when idle in safe mode + airplane mode it loose 20% during an 7 to 8h night. I tried all htc nougat and oreo official and unofficial roms and nothing fixed the problem.
I also used the htc diagnostic tool to determine whether my battery is "good" or not and..... according to the diagnostic tool it is "good". Notice that according to diagnostic tool the battery is defective only if it goes from 100 to less than 75% during the test. Mine goes from 100 to 93 during the test which consists in showing a kind of dark grey screen at full brightness during 1 hour.
Even with a battery rated as good I decided to sent my device for repair because it was not good.
I received the device back and it has not been repaired because it passes the diagnosric tool test. test.
So i'll replace the battery myself as soon as i'll receive my new battery.
I suggest you to run the diagnostic tool test and if you get a decrease from 100 to less than 75, they should repair it under warranty, if not, suggest you to replace the battery yourself or pay somebody to do it for you.
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I received the device back and it has not been repaired because it passes the diagnosric tool test. test.
So i'll replace the battery myself as soon as i'll receive my new battery.
I suggest you to run the diagnostic tool test and if you get a decrease from 100 to less than 75, they should repair it under warranty, if not, suggest you to replace the battery yourself or pay somebody to do it for you.
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I already ordered the battery and will do the replacement myself if the wait times are similar to those of screen replacements. Plus everything points to a bad battery so another test with official app is pointless. Sounds like we both will be doing the swap ourselves.
So I put new battery in and the drain seems slower than before and the charging is not erratic (jumping). When I was removing back cover the black layer came off so I figured it'd be good time to try clear cover mod . I like the look but unsure if anything will interfere with the radios and such due to the missing protection.
Hello all, so the original battery on my Google pixel, almost 3 years old, went to complete hell. It turns off in about a minute once unplugged, despite 100% battery life. So I went and replaced it with two Amazon bought batteries. The first one (definitely not OEM) had the same issue but my pixel would at least last about 10 minutes of regular use, unplugged, before shutting down. So I thought it might be the battery but the second one has the exact same issue. The second one at least looked like OEM with the exterior but since it came from Amazon, it's not 100% certain.
The problem is that the phone charges very fast, like 100% in less than 15 minutes and then discharges 10-20% in just a few minutes. If I last below 70% that would be out of the ordinary.
Is it possible that it's not a battery issue but maybe a different issue? A friendly person on another forum suggested that my core or graphics IC is overheating, attempting to throttle down; and then just shutting down when it looses the battle. Which makes absolute sense since the phone mostly shuts down when I'm playing games on my phone and usually turns off just under 80%.
I also found out that a recent google play store version was found to be the culprit for the extensive battery loss for other folks. Could this also be reason?
Are there any tests I could do to further determine the actual cause?
Thank you.
Two ideas:
- Deactivate Play Store app in Settings -> Apps & Notifications -> All -> Play Store -> Deactivate
- To rule out a damaged third party app as a cause for the battery drain (which actually is quite unlikely in your case), you can reboot into safe mode. For that, long-press the power button and then long-press 'shut down', confirm with OK. At the reboot, all non-system apps are freezed. Then you can check if the battery behaves differently.
Did you try charging your phone for about two hours longer, even if it says it is already at 100%? Maybe just the battery percentage measurement system is somehow damaged.
But you already tried that I guess. So maybe somebody else got another tip for you.
do you try flashing stock image? maybe the battery cache is in trouble
Similar to OP, my Pixel XL had started to have some odd issues beginning almost a year ago. It got REALLY bad in just the last six weeks or so when it would shut down at relatively respectable battery percentages (something like 23% - 57%, randomly).
- Deactivate Play Store app in Settings -> Apps & Notifications -> All -> Play Store -> Deactivate
- To rule out a damaged third party app as a cause for the battery drain (which actually is quite unlikely in your case), you can reboot into safe mode. For that, long-press the power button and then long-press 'shut down', confirm with OK. At the reboot, all non-system apps are freezed. Then you can check if the battery behaves differently.
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Thanks for these ideas, BenjyTec.
When I deactivated ("Disabled" in my settings), there was no change in behavior. In fact, I had forgot I did that until giving things about a week and had forgotten when the phone behaved the same way, LOL (I just now re-enabled it).
I also tried the Safe Mode (which I had not previously known about - thanks!), and the phone still died out pretty quickly from a "full" charge.
Did you try charging your phone for about two hours longer, even if it says it is already at 100%? Maybe just the battery percentage measurement system is somehow damaged.
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I had also done this several times. The really odd thing is many times I will have it on the charger all night or for several hours, and when I take it off it is only at a very low percentage - from 1% to 16%. !!! Of course more often than not it does get to a higher percentage.
do you try flashing stock image? maybe the battery cache is in trouble
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Thanks, gonzakennyn - I have not done a "stock" image, but have factory reset the phone, with no joy. This was actually one of the things I did months ago even before it got really bad, because I wondered if maybe the battery cache or something at the kernel level had deeper issues.
Hopefully the OP might have had better luck or found something...
All these complaints sound like power supply issues.
Use the phone while it's in the charger, and there's no overheating/throttling/shutdown, right?
toucan said:
Similar to OP, my Pixel XL had started to have some odd issues beginning almost a year ago. It got REALLY bad in just the last six weeks or so when it would shut down at relatively respectable battery percentages (something like 23% - 57%, randomly).
Thanks for these ideas, BenjyTec.
When I deactivated ("Disabled" in my settings), there was no change in behavior. In fact, I had forgot I did that until giving things about a week and had forgotten when the phone behaved the same way, LOL (I just now re-enabled it).
I also tried the Safe Mode (which I had not previously known about - thanks!), and the phone still died out pretty quickly from a "full" charge.
I had also done this several times. The really odd thing is many times I will have it on the charger all night or for several hours, and when I take it off it is only at a very low percentage - from 1% to 16%. !!! Of course more often than not it does get to a higher percentage.
Thanks, gonzakennyn - I have not done a "stock" image, but have factory reset the phone, with no joy. This was actually one of the things I did months ago even before it got really bad, because I wondered if maybe the battery cache or something at the kernel level had deeper issues.
Hopefully the OP might have had better luck or found something...
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Unfortunately, I did not find a solution. After replacing the battery twice I pretty much resigned to my fate. I'm going to hold out until Pixel 4 comes out.
Once fully charged, I could use my phone for browsing or watching videos for about an hour before I get to around 30-40%. Then I could leave it unplugged all night and wake up to my battery at 1%. It actually stays that way for a bit.
However, if I use my phone to play any games, I could only use it unplugged for about 10 minutes. My phone will power down without fail at 80% or below only when I play games. Weird thing is, whenever I power it back up, my phone will be 1% but despite that it could last quite a while.
As post-mortem mentioned, I could use my phone while charging without issues so maybe it is a power supply issue, in which case, I have no idea what I could do.
When it's not plugged in to a charger, the only power supply is the battery. Hence, I feel that even your "new" battery is not new.
So a little update all. I updated my phone to the latest Android 10 patch and the battery life has gotten significantly better. It's still not enough to last all day but it can last probably 6-8 hours with minimal use. If I use it constantly, it might last two hours.
I am no longer tethered to my charger when playing games, which is really good news and all the prior issues with the phone shutting down ~80% is gone.
Perhaps the previous Android patches contained faulty code?
I would do fresh install and see if problem resolves. Fresh install fixes all sorts of software issues.
So my battery woes aren't as bad as yours but I did get to the point where I had the battery replaced. I went to uBreakiFix and I have no idea what battery they put in but the bottom line is a brand new battery didn't help much. I got a little better battery life but not as much as I had hoped. I'm assuming that it's either due to the apps I have installed and my usage or the phone is getting old and something is drawing a little more power than it used to. I have not gone to the trouble of factory resetting to see if that would help yet.
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So my battery woes aren't as bad as yours but I did get to the point where I had the battery replaced. I went to uBreakiFix and I have no idea what battery they put in but the bottom line is a brand new battery didn't help much. I got a little better battery life but not as much as I had hoped. I'm assuming that it's either due to the apps I have installed and my usage or the phone is getting old and something is drawing a little more power than it used to. I have not gone to the trouble of factory resetting to see if that would help yet.
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Factory resets didn't help my old issue. Updating to the latest Android os helped immensely. As stated above I no longer have the initial issues. I estimate I now have about 70-80% capacity, which is not bad at all considering I bought my battery through Amazon for around $20.
I thought if you got your battery replaced at ubreakifix, then they are obligated to fix your issue or refund you your money.