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I recently upgraded to WM6 ROM, "Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE", and all went well.
But then at 40% battery my phone died... and this is very similar to a problem I used to had in WM5.
Can anyone tell me which WM6 ROM doesnt cause the battery problem?
For the record, I don't think either my phone or PDA is damaged. The last time I had this problem, I went back to the service center (several times I might add), and they replaced everything eventually (both PDA and Battery). Since then it has worked fine (for about 6mths+), until I flashed to the WM6 ROM.
**** man, I hope this has not damaged my device. Out of warranty already.
I had a similar problem and also initially didn't beleive it could be the battery, but guess what -- getting a new battery solved almost all problems I had including the phone dying at 40% or above. So it might be worth a try...
IT"S YOUR BATTERY
Just trust me
the battery 'dies' after like 6 to 12 months. It just goes bad in a week.
Mine went out on like 20%, then a week later on 54%
replacing it fixes it.
mine crashes over 20%.... the battery it's new
I had same problem with battery,then I buy new battery from ebay, and then the battery status was OK it goes from 100- 4% with warning and everything. But the problem was that battery last only a couple of hours, even aftzer a few days nothing change I must have charger with me all the time.
Then I search the forum and found someons solution, that works for me too.
Just charge the battery full take the cable out and put it in again a couple of times so the battery is realy full charged, the put the device in bootloader mode by pressing Power + Light + Reset, which brings up an un-backlit screen with "Serial" at the top, and "v0.XX" at the bottom. And then just put your device somewhere and dont touch it until it died that coul be the all day. Anyway next day I put the charger in and again didnt touc for all day. And my problems are gone, the battery since then last fortwo or three days if I dont use it much.
Hope that will help somebody
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
Mine dies at 35% with wm6 and wm5 and my old battery, but never dies with my new battery.
Use Radio 1.15
My battery life increased by 200% just by upgrading to this radio ROM.
same here
i m also sufrer of same problem. now after this forum i m confused
Here is the simple fact of the matter:
Batteries are EXTREMELY complicated pieces of equipment
They often give false readings because the chemical reaction that creates the electricity is easily affected by heat\age\use\etc. Also, the electronics that measure the temperature are based on the false assumption that the battery drains in a predictable way down to the same level.
Your battery draining quicker\slower and dying when it says it has charge may be because of the ROM. However, this is HIGHLY unlikely. What is most likely the cause is external factors (eg heat, number of programs running, etc) or that the battery has "died" or become unreliable.
Recommendation: Try different batteries, and remember that batteries have a chemical reaction, before posting here
I don't know... I started having problems as well just after a ROM upgrade... but it was an official ROM upgrade. I start thinking this has something to do with the upgrade process, like some setting being "wiped out" during the upgrade and the battery going "out of sync" with the device, reporting the wrong battery level...
But, more likely, this is just a psycological effect, you install the new rom and then start playing a lot with the device to find the improvements, and you begin noticing the problem for the first time!
My relatively new I-mate JasJar also started dying when the battery level reached 40% the day i flashed WM6.
i posted here, trying to explain that it was perfectly alright 2 days back, prior to WM6.. pointless to say, everyone still said it was the battery 100%
well.. i got a new battery.. and it did indeed solve the problem.
but guess what.
i flashed WM5 back, and both batteries work fine there.
not sure what the heck is going on here.. but i'm certain there are two fixes:
- flash WM5 back on.
- get a new battery and stay with WM6
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Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
You cannot judge the battery is old or new by just months.
This older version of Universal battery, it counts by number of time charged I think, inserting in USB for a sync and remove would probably counted as 1 charge.
I now do not sync using those working condition battery, I change to my dead battery for sync purpose.
As I sync only contacts, now Dotfred has a tool and now I hardly use sync anymore.
By the way, there is one guy in this same forum start another thread without reading this (closest info) or all other previous threads.
People like this deserved to be flamed, but I didnt.
IMHO WM6 uses and drains the battery different then WM5
My experience is that everyone that has problems with their device dying just switched to WM6. It has nothing to do with the WM6 itself, it's just that WM6 is more 'sensitive' to a low battery output then WM5. So if you switch back to WM5 it looks like it might 'solve' your problem but in the end the battery will die, it'll just take a little bit longer before WM5 appears to have problems.
You'll postpone the problem for a little while but it's not a fix
Just my 2 cents
CWKJ said:
I used to think like you, but now I beg to differ, my dead battery never usable under any OS.
It used to be always dead at some % starting from as low as 0 (good ones) and increase until now it is permanent dead at 100%. I have all your intermediate voltages before reaching 100%.
If your's still usable than your battery is not complete dead yet or half dead or maybe soon to be dead.
By the way, I am using helmi_c aku3.5 v1.3 (add on version) as compared to v1.3.1 (vanilla version).
One last thing, please do use big bold characters in forum, sounds like shouting. Thanks!
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Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
astraman said:
Mine still working very good at WM5 as i told you.....just let the battery get off and recharge it till full....now mine is working great and keep working until 10% or less
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I have 3 original batteries.
In principle, good battery can goes to perfect 0%.
First battery started half dead (that is phone is dead 30%) after upgrade from WM5 AKU1 to WM5 AKU2 happen to be around 6 months after I start using the phone, I thought it was the problem with WM5 AKU2 ROM. My usage pattern of this battery is that I charge anytime I wish with Power charger and also during sync. This battery is still with me now after 1 year I have encounter the problem. The dead % grow (no change of ROM) until now it is around 100%, that is phone is dead just before it goes to 99%.
Second battery was bought the same time my first battery has problem, 1 year passed. Usage pattern are, never use this battery for sync or short connections to PC USB, never charge my battery until it is 0% (always possible) or less than 5%, never upgrade ROM using this battery. Always charge to LED turns GREEN & always sync & upgrade ROM with the dead stuck at 100% battery. 1 year has gone, the second is still able to reach 0% till now with battery last average 1 to 3 days, normally 2 days & sometimes 4 days depends on usage pattern.
Third battery, claim by vendor that some electronics is modified compared to the those bought last year. Charged this battery, use a few time to check if it is an ok battery, need to do this as I have ever bought brand new dead battery last year. After confirmed it is a good battery, I continue using the second battery and third battery always carry along as backup in case I used up the second battery.
Hope my usage pattern can help some of you to have optimal use of the battery and do not let the manufacturer earn extra money due to the problem in the old version of the battery. Anyway, this original battery will be discontinued soon due to end of life of this product. Guess I will have to look forward of getting imitations when my second & third battery is gone or maybe when my phone is gone too.
Tadeusz said:
The point is that WM6 treets the battery and power in different way then WM5. First when you upgrade to wm6 and start it first time it assumes that battery is full (the instruction says that you should charge your battery before uploding new ROM). If the battery was not fully charged then you have a problem. WM6 registers the point of current while starting first time and assumes that this level represents the fully charged batteryl. Then it is programmed for consumption of power according to processor cycles, so after such and such time of use of your device it should reach certain level of power. If your battery was not charged full at the start then it will always show false percantage.
The solution is to fully charge the battery (possibly using the way described in some post above) and then reload the ROM once more.
Of cource when you buy a new battery, WM6 registers this (each battery has unic number) and creats new pattern for this battery. That is way it is so importatnt to properly charge the new battery when you load it first time.
Hope this is helpful.
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uhh...not true...
try to flash you phone at 50% charge...when you boot your battery will still be at 50%
astraman said:
Dears,
i used to read about this issue in the forum again and again.....so i desided to wrote this post....everyone was claming the battery is the reason....OK do not belive this.....it is the rom.....i used the wm6 for sometime and i was facing the same problem....and when my carrier started the 3G i had to switch back to wm5.....and now my device never turns off before i get notified that my battery level is too low it about 10% of the battery....so if you do not belive me just do this test....switch back to wm5...i am using now Hilme 3.5 v1.3.1
regards
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Not so Dears
i have what the american will say as 20/20 and the rst of the world will say as 6\6 corrected vision.
i can read normal 12 pt text pretty well..
and apart from that what you claim is...well NOT TRUE
Hi,
My phone is almost not charging full or it doesn't show as such.
This is detailed breakup of my issue :
I put phone at charging exactly at 2pm at 2%
3pm it was at 36%
4pm it was 54%
5pm it was at 64%
6pm it was at 73%
7pm it was at 82%
7:30pm it was at 84%
after this I removed phone from charging and rebooted it. Surprisingly it showed 100%.
Battery doesn't last more than 12hrs no matter what I do. I am using Greenify too.
BT, GPS, Auto-Sync, 3G, etc all are off. WiFi On 24hrs.
Screen-off battery drain is also around 8-9% per hour.
Can I do/try something on software side before I order a new battery ?
Right now I am on Carbon ROM (20131008) with stock kernel, 1512, Ondemand, SIO, No OC. Its same on every ROM I tried except seemingly on ARHD 7.3 (used it less than 24hrs. Its rock solid and smooth.)
I would greatly appreciate any help/advice !
I also has this issue still looking for the solution
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the battery misreading while charging is a common htc's fault after rooting and there is no solution yet
i have the same thing while charging my device
but the difference is i don't have that fast drain
how old is your battery?
did you try a different battery?
make sure it fits correctly to the pins
Battery is just 1yr old. Yup I checked the pins. They are correctly fit.
silentvisitor said:
Battery is just 1yr old. Yup I checked the pins. They are correctly fit.
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this is a rom issue i think as this has also happened to many people and and this happens after many days on a single rom (and u make the rom unstable)
the solution is simple just backup ur data and full wipe and flash rom again and u will be good to do for next many days (if u keep the rom stable)
I flash ROM almost every alternative day and I always do Full-Wipe
silentvisitor said:
I flash ROM almost every alternative day and I always do Full-Wipe
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then its a battery or charger fault
Harbir said:
then its a battery or charger fault
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How to decide which one
Are there any Battery benchmarking app that could tell me if I need a new one ?
silentvisitor said:
How to decide which one
Are there any Battery benchmarking app that could tell me if I need a new one ?
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first try to change the charger and try it with same present battery ,then after a while if the result is same then u have no choice to replace battery and yes there r many battery apps in play store u have to find then
Harbir said:
first try to change the charger and try it with same present battery ,then after a while if the result is same then u have no choice to replace battery and yes there r many battery apps in play store u have to find then
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Thanks and no I meant Benchmarking app Never saw any
Battery Kernel issue
I am new to xda. I actually flashed a new rom after that phone doesn't charge after switching off. Could it be a kernel issue or the rom's issue. I have a Canvas HD. And sorry if this is not the place to ask the question. I couldn't find any other thread related to this. Please help.
Similar issue here. My charging often stops at about 80%, but after a reboot the battery's full charged.
My battery also gets drained very fast, but it's about 2,5 years old so that's probably the problem.
With the CPU clock speed @1,5GHz and the GPU @266MHz i get about 15h +/-2h of battery life.
I keep battery saving ON most of the time. Bluetooth, GPS, 3G etc all OFF. WiFi ON for about 1-2h per day (if i would keep it on longer, my phone would be dead in 4-5h).
I'm using ViperS 5.2.1 right now (full wiped before install). I got the same experience on ARHD and previous ViperS versions.
Tested the charger - it's fine.
I was wondering if anybody else got an old battery like mine and how long does it last on full charge
Hi guys,
I have a HTC Sensation XE that i bought three days ago (second hand) and i have the same problem with the battery % not reading correctly.
Now this is what i observed:
- the charging is very slow - from 20% to 40% in 2-3 hours
- after 2-3 hours of charging if i reboot the phone the charging LED turns green and the battery reading says 100%.
(i tested to see if actually it got charged to 100% and it did, i turned everything on, watched a HD movie, played some games and after 5-6 hours of playing with it i still had 50%)
- tested the battery to see how fast it drains from 10% to shut down and it went on at full brightness and everything on for about an hour and something so this means there might not be any problems with the battery
- so the reading is wrong because the battery is charged after a few hours.
- i did a test to see if the same thing happens when the phone is off and i left it to charge for 2-3 hours and when i got back the charging LED was still orange. When i started the phone the LED went off and back on as green. The battery was 100% charged.
- If the same behavior happens in off mode it means it's not a ROM problem (by the way from what i know the phone is stock, the guy never did the rooting.....that's what he told me - can't know for sure).
- from my electronics background it seems the phone updates the battery information sometime at boottime. When charging, the software keeps the charging LED on because it's supposed to charge due to incorrect data but the hardware charging controller drops the charge current because the the battery is full. So this can be an incorrect sensor reading by the software or an incorrect feedback given by the hardware controller.
So what do you think, what can cause this.
Should i try rooting the device?
And i tried factory reset from android and factory reset from bootloader and the problem is still there.
Ok so i did the following:
- unlock the bootloader
- flashed CWM
- installed superuser
- wipe battery stats
- wipe device
- calibrate battery with an application from market
The problem is still there.
I figured that when in bootloader first thing you can read is the S-ON/S-OFF. Before doing the unlock it was "LOCKED" and after "UNLOCKED".
I did a relock and the status changed to "RELOCKED" so this means the guy that had the phone before me didn't root which again means the theory that says this problem occurs when the user tries to root the device is not true because it seems the behavior is observed on an unrooted device.
I will dig deeper maybe i find more ideas on what i can do.
I'm running out of software options so this is pointing at something hardware.
I'll get back with updates when i find something else.
rickarrp said:
Ok so i did the following:
- unlock the bootloader
- flashed CWM
- installed superuser
- wipe battery stats
- wipe device
- calibrate battery with an application from market
The problem is still there.
I figured that when in bootloader first thing you can read is the S-ON/S-OFF. Before doing the unlock it was "LOCKED" and after "UNLOCKED".
I did a relock and the status changed to "RELOCKED" so this means the guy that had the phone before me didn't root which again means the theory that says this problem occurs when the user tries to root the device is not true because it seems the behavior is observed on an unrooted device.
I will dig deeper maybe i find more ideas on what i can do.
I'm running out of software options so this is pointing at something hardware.
I'll get back with updates when i find something else.
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probably it is htc's bug
the same happened to me after rooting the device
For now I will try to make some full cycles of the battery and see if anything changes. I usually use the phone at work and by the time I get home it's almost empty. Plug to charger and till morning it's full with a green light. I will have to monitor the charging times and get back with results.
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Well i did some full charging cycles and nothing changed, still the same long charge time(read by the phone) and with restart it bounces to 100%.
I had the original Android 4.0.3 with Htc Sense 3.6 at the time. Got 4EXT recovery and an 4.0.4 rom with Htc Sense 4.1. Did a full wipe and battery stats , installed the new 4.0.4 rom but the problem persists.
At this point i think the battery is the problem so the next thing to do is to change it. I will get back after i change it, hopefully sometime in november.
After a long time I managed to change the battery and after a few tests it seems the problem is still there. The time on battery improved as I expected but everything else is the same which means it's something hardware defective in the phone. Also did some tests with android 5.1 and the same results. Meantime I sold the phone and got a Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo. Hope this research gives some answers to someone at some point. Cheers.
Hi Guys, i'm noob, i wana ask about my htc sensation, after 2 year i'm using it, today i found
when battery charging (htc Senstaion) dismiss displaying percentage of battery after i restarting while charging.
****battery charging ------> Battery percentage displaying 60% then i restarting the phone while this situation
and then when phone finish restarting and ready to use battery precentage displaying 100%(full)
is it normal?
sorry my english bad
Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
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if not all many users(including me) have this situation
it is a htc's common issue after rooting the device
there is no a solution yet
it is just a percentage misreading
by the way i don't know if wipe battery stats will help
rzr86 said:
if not all many users(including me) have this situation
it is a htc's common issue after rooting the device
there is no a solution yet
it is just a percentage misreading
by the way i don't know if wipe battery stats will help
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After rooting??? R u sure about that ??
I was suffering same issue before rooting and after rooting..
Wipe battery status is useless here ..
Its HTC's fault....
Itsakash said:
After rooting??? R u sure about that ??
I was suffering same issue before rooting and after rooting..
Wipe battery status is useless here ..
Its HTC's fault....
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before rooting?
for me that never happened
also wipe battery stats is useless and indeed it is htc's fault
rzr86 said:
if not all many users(including me) have this situation
it is a htc's common issue after rooting the device
there is no a solution yet
it is just a percentage misreading
by the way i don't know if wipe battery stats will help
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Just a percentage misreading? But if the phone thinks it's at 100% won't it stop charging then?
emrvb said:
Just a percentage misreading? But if the phone thinks it's at 100% won't it stop charging then?
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probably it stops
i am not sure about that
edit: the point is the battery is increasing its percentage slower when it passes 60%-70%
but it charges the same
so if you reboot the device then it jumps at 90% or full charge
rzr86 said:
probably it stops
i am not sure about that
edit: the point is the battery is increasing its percentage slower when it passes 60%-70%
but it charges the same
so if you reboot the device then it jumps at 90% or full charge
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Is it known what causes this?
Someone above said "it is a htc's common issue after rooting". Is there any source on that? For all I know, percentage of charge of battery is determined by a combination of output voltage and amps, preferably referenced by a table taking battery age into account (correct me if I'm wrong though).
Rooting the device should not be an issue, unless HTC did something in their rom to detect this and let the battery percentage be wrong. Then again, most of us aren't on the stock rom. To be on another rom, the bootloader needs to be unlocked. Did HTC do something that unlocking the bootloader makes voltage/discharge readings unreliable? I doubt that...
I'm interested in this because I unlocked and flashed a Sensation XE for a friend of mine (SultanXDA's KitKat rom), but the battery discharges very, very fast, without an obvious cause. So I wonder whether it could be the battery is not fully charged and/or the phone decides it's empty to early.
"it is a htc's common issue after rooting"<- i said that
it was a source but i can't find it now
also i don't know if htc did something with unlocking the bootloader by purpose
if you flashed the rom recently don't judge the battery too early
give it 4-5 cyrcle charges until it settles down then see how it goes
emrvb said:
I unlocked and flashed a Sensation XE for a friend of mine (SultanXDA's KitKat rom), but the battery discharges very, very fast, without an obvious cause. So I wonder whether it could be the battery is not fully charged and/or the phone decides it's empty to early.
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I have exactly this problem.
It sounds like the same ROM, Saltan kit kat. I am using the latest kernal 3.4, having tried two kernals I get the same results. For example I charged the phone to full, and after 2 hours of use I'm down to 55%, WiFi on and browsing, gmail synced but not much else, screen brightness turned down etc.
I only flashed a couple days ago, will it improve massively over the next few days?
The phone was giving a days charge easily before flashing.
I am also noticing a message saying 'unfortunately process com.android.phone has stopped working' (or similar). When this happens and I click OK I notice the signal disappears for a few seconds before coming back. Could this be the cause of the problem?
Could it be he ROM?
I'm new to all this but managed to unlock, root, flash recovery, and flash the ROM thanks to the brilliant guides on XDA. Any help with the above would be appreciated.
Rob
i am facing the same problem , rather my problem is goes much further .
iam on stock ROM and not rooted my sensation. my device often restart automatically even when battery is about 90% or battery is 40% and it continue this from last 2-3 months.
and after restarting battery percentage is also changed, see attached pics.
i am tired of this rebooting , i observed that restaring is mostly when i connect to calls or text msgs.
can somebody pleeeeeeaase help me.
tAheEr73 said:
i am facing the same problem , rather my problem is goes much further .
iam on stock ROM and not rooted my sensation. my device often restart automatically even when battery is about 90% or battery is 40% and it continue this from last 2-3 months.
and after restarting battery percentage is also changed, see attached pics.
i am tired of this rebooting , i observed that restaring is mostly when i connect to calls or text msgs.
can somebody pleeeeeeaase help me.
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since you are completely stock then the only thing i can tell you is to check your battery if it fits correctly
also how old is it?
rzr86 said:
since you are completely stock then the only thing i can tell you is to check your battery if it fits correctly
also how old is it?
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thanks for ur reply ,
i have inserted plastic card behind battery for proper contact (adviced by many people at xda) but problem is not solved. my battary is 6 month old.
may be it is battery as i purchased from local market.
i have ordered new battery and soon will recive that . will let you know.
i have observed that mostly mobile got restart when i make/recieve calls and sms.
Spawn-uk- said:
I have exactly this problem.
It sounds like the same ROM, Saltan kit kat. I am using the latest kernal 3.4, having tried two kernals I get the same results. For example I charged the phone to full, and after 2 hours of use I'm down to 55%, WiFi on and browsing, gmail synced but not much else, screen brightness turned down etc.
I only flashed a couple days ago, will it improve massively over the next few days?
The phone was giving a days charge easily before flashing.
I am also noticing a message saying 'unfortunately process com.android.phone has stopped working' (or similar). When this happens and I click OK I notice the signal disappears for a few seconds before coming back. Could this be the cause of the problem?
Could it be he ROM?
I'm new to all this but managed to unlock, root, flash recovery, and flash the ROM thanks to the brilliant guides on XDA. Any help with the above would be appreciated.
Rob
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Does anyone have any ideas? Today the phone lasted around 12 hours but with minimal use which isn't really good enough. I thought rooting and flashing would improve battery life but so far I am disappointed. I may try another ROM tomorrow.
Rob
i'm try to buying new original batery but still same problem,
now i'm trying viver rom sc.5.1, with last Sebastian FM kernel
this rom verry awesome i'd like this but baterry percentage still problem:
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DEVICE: HTC Sensation Z710e
PREVIOUS ROM:Rooted Stock Rom ICS Sence 3.6
CURRENT ROM:ViperS 5.1.0 JB Sense 5
FIRMWARE:3.32.401.5
PREVIOUS KERNEL: htc kernel
CURRENT KERNEL:kernel 3.4.10 by SebastianFM
BOOTLOADER:unlocked
HBOOT VERSION:1.27.0000
RECOVERY:4EXT recovery touch v.1.0.0.6 RC1
S-ON
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tAheEr73 said:
thanks for ur reply ,
i have inserted plastic card behind battery for proper contact (adviced by many people at xda) but problem is not solved. my battary is 6 month old.
may be it is battery as i purchased from local market.
i have ordered new battery and soon will recive that . will let you know.
i have observed that mostly mobile got restart when i make/recieve calls and sms.
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This really sounds like your battery, especially if it's not the original or equivalent. But, it could also be an app on the background, keeping your phone from "deep sleep". Bad cell coverage (very low signal) also drains your battery relatively quickly when you're on 3G. A good WiFi connection consumes less power than 3G with bad signal. Another possibility could be (but unlikely) is that your phone is intended for another region and thus having trouble communicating with the GSM network.
- Check your battery.
- Check what your battery is used for.
- Check your battery time with network set to GSM only.
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rzr86 said:
"it is a htc's common issue after rooting"<- i said that
it was a source but i can't find it now
also i don't know if htc did something with unlocking the bootloader by purpose
if you flashed the rom recently don't judge the battery too early
give it 4-5 cyrcle charges until it settles down then see how it goes
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Still you keep saying "after rooting" which is significantly different from unlocking the bootloader and flashing. Furthermore, to me it seems far more people report "better battery life" with their new roms.
About initially flashing the rom: i thought format of system, data and cache (including dalvik cache) ought to be enough. It has had somewhere between the 10 and 20 charge cycles by now. Battery life improved a little, but it's still far from acceptable. The battery percentage between reboots should only differ marginally between reboots (might need a few minutes of usage to become accurate). Also notable: over 20% difference in percentage reading between rom and recovery.
I wouldn't mind investigating this. So I wonder if anyone with "proper" battery life could provide me a "dumpsys" for the battery service and would perhaps have the time to take a look at /proc with me.
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Still you keep saying "after rooting" which is significantly different from unlocking the bootloader and flashing. Furthermore, to me it seems far more people report "better battery life" with their new roms.
About initially flashing the rom: i thought format of system, data and cache (including dalvik cache) ought to be enough. It has had somewhere between the 10 and 20 charge cycles by now. Battery life improved a little, but it's still far from acceptable. The battery percentage between reboots should only differ marginally between reboots (might need a few minutes of usage to become accurate). Also notable: over 20% difference in percentage reading between rom and recovery.
I wouldn't mind investigating this. So I wonder if anyone with "proper" battery life could provide me a "dumpsys" for the battery service and would perhaps have the time to take a look at /proc with me.
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i unlocked the bootloader and root the device at the same period and i stayed for months with the stock rom
i don't know which one is responsible for percentage misreadings
also don't get confused
i am talking only for percentage misreadings and not for better battery life
and only when you charge the device.not unplugged
of course i had(and i still have) very good battery life with whatever rom i have flashed
by the way i have noticed the percentage difference between recovery and rom but i don't remember if it was 20%
rzr86 said:
i unlocked the bootloader and root the device at the same period and i stayed for months with the stock rom
i don't know which one is responsible for percentage misreadings
also don't get confused
i am talking only for percentage misreadings and not for better battery life
and only when you charge the device.not unplugged
of course i had(and i still have) very good battery life with whatever rom i have flashed
by the way i have noticed the percentage difference between recovery and rom but i don't remember if it was 20%
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Alright, thanks for clearing that up. I really want to solve this issue, so I'm quite keen on getting the facts straight.
Back to my issue then (yeah I'm effectively hijacking this thread): is it possible the percentage misreading is causing the battery not to fully charge and/or discharge? Or should I direct my search to another cause?
This is what I found (or did not find) so far:
- Stand-by time seems great, the drain occurs when the screen is on.
- There is nothing in the normal battery usage (usage goes to screen)
- I was unable to detect an obvious culprit with better battery stats.
- I did notice that when I do a dumpsys, service battery shows voltage in V, while my Sony shows it in mV.
- I tried offline charging for about an hour today (light still orange), after boot the battery indicator showed 100%. It dropped to 86% in 7 to 8 minutes.
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I tried offline charging for about an hour today (light still orange), after boot the battery indicator showed 100%. It dropped to 86% in 7 to 8 minutes.
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probably never truly reached the full charge(100%) when charged it in that one hour
by the way how old is your battery?
did you try with a new one?
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since you are completely stock then the only thing i can tell you is to check your battery if it fits correctly
also how old is it?
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please see attached screenshots
what do u think , is this battery or some hardware etc fault??
Hello community,
So, I've got myself a Nexus 5.
Problem (?):
When I'm charging my N5 and the battery indicator reaches 96%, the charging led goes green, indicating that it's fully charged. It doesn't STOP to charge at 96% like to prevent overcharging, it just shows green led at 96% and continues to charge to 100%. It thought the problem may be the stock kernel that comes with Cataclysm ROM, so I've flashed ElementalX kernel (Without wiping anything, do I have to wipe?) and the problem's still there.
Is that behavior normal?
Here are details about my phone:
Cataclysm ROM, 5.1.1 (Jun 20, 2015, stable build)
ElementalX Kernel, latest version for 5.1.1 (4.04)
I got my N5 one or two months ago, I rooted immediately but I believe it had this issue right out of the box. And I'm using the stock wall charger & usb cable which I received with my N5.
Thanks to anyone trying to help me.
Regards
I remember a Marques Brownlee Youtube video where he was talking about Li-On battery overcharging - they don't apparently, since there is circuitry in the battery to regulate the charging. From memory, he described it as a sort of "bounce" effect, where the charging gets close to 100%, cuts out, then says "Maybe a bit more" and starts again - and it may do that a number of times. So I reckon that this behaviour is what you're seeing, and you don't have any problem.
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I remember a Marques Brownlee Youtube video where he was talking about Li-On battery overcharging - they don't apparently, since there is circuitry in the battery to regulate the charging. From memory, he described it as a sort of "bounce" effect, where the charging gets close to 100%, cuts out, then says "Maybe a bit more" and starts again - and it may do that a number of times. So I reckon that this behaviour is what you're seeing, and you don't have any problem.
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Thank your for your reply
Now I know that everything's behaving normal. I almost thought that I have to replace the battery - and it's non removeable, so that would be a hard nut for me to crack, even with the right tools.
Last question, if I would replace my current N5 battery with another (original) battery, would the 'problem' vanish? Now I know, everything's OK.. but I'm a sorta perfectionist when it comes to devices. In other words, is that behavior related to the battery?
Here's the Marques Brownlee video I mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrcbcm11830
So the answer to your question is: no, a new battery will (most likely) make no difference at all - a lot of trouble, risk and expense for nothing. I leave my phone on a charging pad every night, on a timer switching off around 03:00, and it's usually around 95-97% in the morning. Like you, I'd much prefer 100%, but I've learned to live with it, especially as my Nexus 6 very rarely drops below 50% during the day - I'm a light user.
And a word of warning to anyone reading this. We tend to go looking for solutions to problems we've already suffered, when it can be too late. I managed a few months ago to drain my Nexus 5 battery down to zero, and when I recharged it the radio was stone dead - no SIM recognised, no data service (but wifi ok), no phone calls, no texts. There are many people reporting the same thing, so beware:
DON'T LET YOUR NEXUS 5 BATTERY DRAIN TO ZERO!!!
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Now I know that everything's behaving normal. I almost thought that I have to replace the battery - and it's non removeable, so that would be a hard nut for me to crack, even with the right tools.
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There is no need for you to replace your battery - the percentage issue might be solved with a simple battery calibration.
But just to answer your question, the hardest part when replacing the battery is getting the old one out since it's glued in pretty hard.
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There is no need for you to replace your battery - the percentage issue might be solved with a simple battery calibration.
But just to answer your question, the hardest part when replacing the battery is getting the old one out since it's glued in pretty hard.
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Can you please forward me to some sort of instructions of how to calibrate properly? Can't find anything but the batterystats.bin hoax.
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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disccharge from 100% until your phone shuts down, then charge it to 100% while it is off
As far as I know, this issue is software side, not hardware. Have you ever encountered this problem before ? On my ROM (which is SAOSP), the LED started turning green at 95%. This could also mean that the green LED is set to appear at 95% - 96% charge.
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As far as I know, this issue is software side, not hardware. Have you ever encountered this problem before ? On my ROM (which is SAOSP), the LED started turning green at 95%. This could also mean that the green LED is set to appear at 95% - 96% charge.
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Yes, I've thought about that too. The LED could be the problem. Is there some sort of workaround for this?
And no, I'm encountering this for the first time. I've rooted and flashed Cataclysm ROM right after I unpacked my N5, so I don't know if the problem was on stock too.
Unbenannt, I would say that you need to stop looking at this as a problem - it doesn't seem to be one. You'll spend a lot of time and energy on this (you already have...) and the concensus seems to be that it's not worth the trouble. If you run down your battery you risk bricking the radio (and I know that GtrCraft is saying only until the phone shuts down, not drained to zero) but really, why take the risk of damaging a beautiful device for such a minor reason?
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When I'm charging my N5 and the battery indicator reaches 96%, the charging led goes green, indicating that it's fully charged.
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did you said charging LED ? wooh I've been using this device for 2-3 months and never seen LED blink when full charged !!
you are using any app or something for that ? bcz i'm on stock and i can't see any option to turn it on and No charging light for me at all !
does all people see it on stock ?!
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did you said charging LED ? wooh I've been using this device for 2-3 months and never seen LED blink when full charged !!
you are using any app or something for that ? bcz i'm on stock and i can't see any option to turn it on and No charging light for me at all !
does all people see it on stock ?!
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I'm running a custom ROM (Cataclysm), so that's probably why.
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Unbenannt, I would say that you need to stop looking at this as a problem - it doesn't seem to be one. You'll spend a lot of time and energy on this (you already have...) and the concensus seems to be that it's not worth the trouble. If you run down your battery you risk bricking the radio (and I know that GtrCraft is saying only until the phone shuts down, not drained to zero) but really, why take the risk of damaging a beautiful device for such a minor reason?
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Yeah, maybe you are right.
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I'm running a custom ROM (Cataclysm), so that's probably why.
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Oh..i thought you were fully stock before flashing custom kernel.
After further tests and results shared by others, it seems this doesn't fix the problem, feel free to share your placebo results.
Hey guys, I need testers for this fastboot command to figure out if it fixes inconsistent battery charging/discharging pattern.
So far I noticed a longer charging/discharging time and battery is starting to behave like other regular phones. I just need to know whether it is a placebo or actual improvement.
A simple command to fix battery, too good to be true.
DISCLAIMER:
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU ARE TRYING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK AND THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE OF BRICKING YOUR DEVICE IF YOU GIVE RANDOM OEM COMMANDS (THESE COMMANDS CAN BYPASS BOOTLOADER SECURITY AND CAN BE USED IN KERNEL INJECTIONS) EVEN IF YOU ARE ON STOCK WITH A LOCKED BOOTLOADER.
DON'T TEST THIS IF YOU HAD WATER DAMAGE OR CHARGING PROBLEMS.
THANK YOU
Command to get current value (does not change anything):
fastboot oem config battery
The value is shown between <VALUE></VALUE> and you will notice stock value is empty.
Command to test for:
fastboot oem config battery "no_eprom"
Please note and share the battery percentage before and after making the change, then follow up with charge cycle changes if any.
Command to return to stock setting in case it becomes worse:
fastboot oem config battery ""
Command to AVOID:
fastboot oem config "test"
With this option the battery percentage seems to get stuck at 52%(don't recommend trying), this option is dangerous as it can cause the battery to overcharge or discharge under operating voltage and can cause data corruption/loss.
Utag description:
Name="battery"
protected="false"
description= battery detection control
"test" or "no_eprom"
Thanks and in case someone who knows what exactly this command does please share the knowledge.
Happy to test if this is for the erratic battery discharging problem? Coz mine has this problem and I've tried anything and everything I've come across on the internet. Now I am on the last and final attempt and have ordered a replacement battery from AliExpress to try and replace it myself. If that too fails, the phone is going into the bin (e-Waste one though).
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Happy to test if this is for the erratic battery discharging problem? Coz mine has this problem and I've tried anything and everything I've come across on the internet. Now I am on the last and final attempt and have ordered a replacement battery from AliExpress to try and replace it myself. If that too fails, the phone is going into the bin (e-Waste one though).
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I just too bought a $10ish Ali battery the other day. This issue is ridiculous. I swear it had to do with the Oreo update, because these battery charging/symptons were acute only immediately after the update a few months ago. Only say this because my buddy who had his Z since around release also started having the same issues around the same time as me, but I only been using mine for about a year.
Anyways I tried this no_eprom command. Moto Z Droid Edition (Verizon), locked bootloader of course, but the command/value sticks. Don't have much faith though since my battery drained 15% just typing this message...
Tested... unfortunately no change in battery charge/discharge behavior... It is as weirdly random as before.
Yeah after 2 charging cycles it started behaving irregularly again. Had some hope it would at least fix the way battery percentage is read.
Unfortunately it seems this is indeed a hardware problem, probably dead cells in the battery which cause sudden drop in percentage.
Currently my battery drops to 80 from 100 (after full charge) and from 24 to 4 (before low battery shutdown).
It's definitely related to system load (which is why people blamed the 7.1.1 update, as system updates tax the system pretty hardcore for 30 minutes or so). For me, I started noticing an issue with my new Hasselblad mod. The camera uses a ton of battery - namely zooming and the flash is horrendous. It's a shame that a battery wasn't included in the mod (or at least a capacitor array).
I believe the "best" fix would be to limit the processor in some way - or if possible - limit the battery draw in software. This is why you'll see a drop from 80 to 20% or shut offs at lower percentages. The system incorrectly assumes that the sudden voltage drop is indicative of percentage and signals a poweroff. In my case with the hasselblad, the camera tries to pull more volts than the battery can provide.
So the real fix is to either get a new battery (the issue is that Moto is squeezing the lithium too thin) or figure out a software solution to limit it to like 2volts or something (which would make it laggy as all get out)