Only 3200mah? Wtf were they thinking? This is a bad case of form over function. My Mix2 battery life is "just" acceptable and instead of improving it they make it smaller. I'm definitely ordering the NexS. I may resume my Xiaomi love affair with the Mix4 if they come to their senses.
Yeah, agree 100 %, but the problem with the Vivo NEX S is that you have no root and no bootloader unlock.
Also, no Wireless Charging.
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Yeah, agree 100 %, but the problem with the Vivo NEX S is that you have no root and no bootloader unlock.
Also, no Wireless Charging.
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I don't root or tinker so it doesn't matter. I don't even care about wireless charging especially with a phone like the Nex which is easily a two day phone.
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Only 3200mah? Wtf were they thinking? This is a bad case of form over function. My Mix2 battery life is "just" acceptable and instead of improving it they make it smaller. I'm definitely ordering the NexS. I may resume my Xiaomi love affair with the Mix4 if they come to their senses.
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Calm down man, what did you expect with all those moving parts? BTW, did Xiaomi promise you anything before they announced the phone that you are so pissed now?
Calm down.
While the battery might be smaller than the Mi Mix 2's, the screen now is Oled instead of LCD. This should mean that you'll get more SOT than you currently do with the 2. The battery on the Mi Mix 2 is fine for regular usage (with my Mi Mix 2 reaching about 1,5 days of SOT, needing to be charged every 2-3 days), and I'm sure the battery for the 3 will be better than your current device.
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Calm down man, what did you expect with all those moving parts? BTW, did Xiaomi promise you anything before they announced the phone that you are so pissed now?
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Calm down? I'm not pissed, I'm disappointed. It's gone from 4400mah to 3400 to 3200. The NexS has similar specs and a 4,000mah battery. Huawei's Mate line is almost always 4,000mah. Compromising on battery life is a deal breaker for me.
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Calm down.
While the battery might be smaller than the Mi Mix 2's, the screen now is Oled instead of LCD. This should mean that you'll get more SOT than you currently do with the 2. The battery on the Mi Mix 2 is fine for regular usage (with my Mi Mix 2 reaching about 1,5 days of SOT, needing to be charged every 2-3 days), and I'm sure the battery for the 3 will be better than your current device.
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The NexS has the same oled and 4,000mah.
Btw I think you mean 1.5 days overall. No phone achieves 1.5 days (36 hrs) of sot.
Mix 1 4400 mAh 6.4 inch
Mix 2 3400 mAh 6 inch
Mix 3 3200 mAh 6.4 inch
So, we get 218g device with 8.3mm and only 3200 mAh. Amoled or not, this is trash.
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Mix 1 4400 mAh 6.4 inch
Mix 2 3400 mAh 6 inch
Mix 3 3200 mAh 6.4 inch
So, we get 218g device with 8.3mm and only 3200 mAh. Amoled or not, this is trash.
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Exactly
Not going to leave my note 9 4000 battery
For this trash 3200 battary
Galaxy with 4000 mAh = Xiaomi 3000 mAh
My Mi Mix 2s with 3400 mAh destroy the Mate 10 Pro with 4000 mAh, even without Amoled.
I totally agree with Twotems.
I can not understand that xiaomi installed such a small battery in his Flagship [emoji20]
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Only 3200mah? Wtf were they thinking? This is a bad case of form over function. My Mix2 battery life is "just" acceptable and instead of improving it they make it smaller. I'm definitely ordering the NexS. I may resume my Xiaomi love affair with the Mix4 if they come to their senses.
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I briefly had the NexS,I think you'll like it,but,if you haven't already,I'd take a look around the NEX forum here @ XDA before taking the plunge,especially if this is gonna be a long-term daily driver.
The software is definitely iOS inspired,but,manageable,a bit of tweaking is in order,especially if you want to use a 3rd party launcher.
Ditto for the Oppo Find X,I had that one for an even briefer amount of time before selling it (5 days),worst mfg UI experience EVER by a country mile.
The hardware on both are awesome,the Nex,while not a flashy,would be the one of the two I'd recommend.
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I briefly had the NexS,I think you'll like it,but,if you haven't already,I'd take a look around the NEX forum here @ XDA before taking the plunge,especially if this is gonna be a long-term daily driver.
The software is definitely iOS inspired,but,manageable,a bit of tweaking is in order,especially if you want to use a 3rd party launcher.
Ditto for the Oppo Find X,I had that one for an even briefer amount of time before selling it (5 days),worst mfg UI experience EVER by a country mile.
The hardware on both are awesome,the Nex,while not a flashy,would be the one of the two I'd recommend.
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Thanks for the advice. I've been on the Nex forums for a while and bought based on the comments there. The FindX slide to unlock made it a no no from the beginning.
Sounds like you had the Chinese version which is a nightmare outside China. I ordered the global version (I hope!) and it's fine they say. I always change my launcher to FastKey or ZenUi especially on my Xiaomi's so the ios look won't be overwhelming. It's arriving next week so I'll know everything for sure then.
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Thanks for the advice. I've been on the Nex forums for a while and bought based on the comments there. The FindX slide to unlock made it a no no from the beginning.
Sounds like you had the Chinese version which is a nightmare outside China. I ordered the global version (I hope!) and it's fine they say. I always change my launcher to FastKey or ZenUi especially on my Xiaomi's so the ios look won't be overwhelming. It's arriving next week so I'll know everything for sure then.
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Yep, had the original (Chinese) versions of both.
I went in to the experience fully aware that things were different from the way most of us use our phones outside of China & baked-in Google services.
Still came out of it very surprised at how restrictive the user experience was.
I've heard the global ROMs offer a better experience.
Would be nice to have OnePlus' OOS on either,the best of both worlds.....
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Hi,
I am really struggling to make a decision.
Which one should I buy?
Mi5, should be released next month which will be a real flagship
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Mi5, should be released next month which will be a real flagship
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I hope the latest pictures aren't real, i dont want such a Samsung copy
I m pretty sad because of that redmi note 3. It was released two weeks after I bought mi4c. If u haven't buy yet, I would recommend u to go for redmi note 3.
Just pick the screen size you prefer. They are both top performers, Mi4c slightly faster.
Xiaomi Mi 4C VS Xiaomi Redmi Note 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYU5cohK12Q
Karly Johnston said:
Just pick the screen size you prefer. They are both top performers, Mi4c slightly faster.
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If you want a large phone, go for the Redmi Note 3, as it's nice and big, or wait for the Mi5. The Helio X10 is a nice processor on benchmarks, and apparently just barely beats the SD808 featured in the Mi4c. However, I doubt you will notice any lag or difference comparing the two phones, as Xiaomi does a nice job with MIUI7 for both phones. On the other hand, if you opt for a smaller screen size the Mi4c is probably for your.
If you're in the game to get most specs for the cheapest price, the Redmi Note 3 migth be right up your alley.
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I hope the latest pictures aren't real, i dont want such a Samsung copy
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I don't know what they're thinking by copying the Samsung button even if its just for a fingerprint scanner, just doesn't look good.
I am not keen to get 5.5 screen, would be ok with a smaller one as well. Generally I thought SD is better than MTK, but again, SD808 is prone to heat. On the other hand I am not really interested about the fingerprint sensor as it is just a gimmick now. I like the USB-C on the mi4c, but that can be a curse as well. However the quick charge can be a benefit on the mi4c.
I am not interested in the mi5 as it will be much more expensive (imho).
Also, I don't know if the note 3 will get the same level of developers love as the mi4c does.
Decisions, decisions...
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I don't know what they're thinking by copying the Samsung button even if its just for a fingerprint scanner, just doesn't look good.
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Agree. So i think i buy a Mi Note in black sometime. I like that design without Homebutton.
Obviously price of the phone will be a factor. I'm guessing £350 Max for 64gb.
SD is better than MT any day. And I won't buy any phone that has MT in it anytime soon.
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Obviously price of the phone will be a factor. I'm guessing £350 Max for 64gb.
SD is better than MT any day. And I won't buy any phone that has MT in it anytime soon.
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Despite the heat issues?
i got both here, i am happy with my mi4c but the redmi note 3 is really nice! The redmi note 3 i for a friend because 5,5 is to big for my.
i just got one problem with the redmi note 3, in the plastic on the back make some strange noise if you press it, sounds like a film under it witch wasn´t removed.....
I decided on the Mi4C instead. I liked the size, the snapdragon 808, and USB type C as I've grown accustomed to it now that my 6P has it.
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No heat issues if you can adjust the thermal config well, which Xiaomi didn't do, but easy to fix by taking one from other sd808 device that's proven to have solved that. I no longer have that issue since.
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No heat issues if you can adjust the thermal config well, which Xiaomi didn't do, but easy to fix by taking one from other sd808 device that's proven to have solved that. I no longer have that issue since.
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Where can I find some information in regards to this?
No heat issue on my Mi4C for my daily use. I'm not a heavy gamer though.
Sent from my Mi-4c using xda premium
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No heat issues if you can adjust the thermal config well, which Xiaomi didn't do, but easy to fix by taking one from other sd808 device that's proven to have solved that. I no longer have that issue since.
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http://en.miui.com/thread-197481-1-1.html
Doesnt the redmi note 3 have a ugly black border around the screen?
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I am not keen to get 5.5 screen, would be ok with a smaller one as well. Generally I thought SD is better than MTK, but again, SD808 is prone to heat. On the other hand I am not really interested about the fingerprint sensor as it is just a gimmick now. I like the USB-C on the mi4c, but that can be a curse as well. However the quick charge can be a benefit on the mi4c.
I am not interested in the mi5 as it will be much more expensive (imho).
Also, I don't know if the note 3 will get the same level of developers love as the mi4c does.
Decisions, decisions...
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I seriously don't know if SD are better than MTK. Some MTK have beaten SD and vice versa. I guess the developers love SD, because (from what I've heard) the kernel have open source, which means that you can dig deeper when creating ROMS. But I'm not a developer, so I wouldn't know for sure.
My MI4c charges rather quickly... Maybe from a few % to 60% in about 30 minutes. The next takes maybe an hour or so, but at least I won't run out of juice... 60% is better than a few %, right?
Like you, I don't care about fingerprint scanner... It's just a gimmick using my precious battery...
Hey there!
So I've always been a Xiaomi fan for the past 4 years, although I've been offered either a Vivo Nex S or the Meizu 16th for my Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S + 90€...
Wondering if such a deal is worth it, and if so for which?
I love them both due to the screens and on-screen fingerprint reader so just looking for a more "in-depth" opinion...
Cheers!
i can tell you i had mi mix 2s and i sold it to buy vivo nex s in which is arriving in 2 weeks
2 things i did to want this
the battery on mi mix2s with 5-7 hours SoT due to the 3400mah and LCD IPS screen.
and the selfie camera which i dont use that often but when i did it annoyed me having to up side down.
the only thing ill probably going to regret is the lack of support towards roms, root and other mods.
But we will have to see and wait for Funtouch OS to get better in time.
About Meizu 16th can't say for certain but a 3010mah battery doesn't look promising and the design is also something i don't like in comparison to the vivo nex.
So i say VivoNexS>MiMix2s>Meizu16th
A flagship without battery kife is nothing that's the reason y i dintt got s9 or so plus
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Hey there!
So I've always been a Xiaomi fan for the past 4 years, although I've been offered either a Vivo Nex S or the Meizu 16th for my Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S + 90€...
Wondering if such a deal is worth it, and if so for which?
I love them both due to the screens and on-screen fingerprint reader so just looking for a more "in-depth" opinion...
Cheers!
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I replaced my Mix2 with the NexS and I'm loving it. Don't know much about the Meizu but it certainly won't match the Nex in battery life.
Thanks guys! Vivo it is!
EDIT: just got offered a 6T for 130€ more. Is it worth or should I. Keep with the vivo? Also, regarding to Roms, how's funtouch compared to MIUI or even OxygenOS?
Cheers
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Thanks guys! Vivo it is!
EDIT: just got offered a 6T for 130€ more. Is it worth or should I. Keep with the vivo? Also, regarding to Roms, how's funtouch compared to MIUI or even OxygenOS?
Cheers
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Despite what some might say Funtouch isn't all that bad, however OxygenOS for me is leaps and bounds better. However the Vivo Nex (international) is one very nice device, the battery life is just sublime, display also & camera's are very nice to......:good:
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Thanks guys! Vivo it is!
EDIT: just got offered a 6T for 130€ more. Is it worth or should I. Keep with the vivo? Also, regarding to Roms, how's funtouch compared to MIUI or even OxygenOS?
Cheers
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Coming directly from the Mix2 and MIUI I actually prefer Funtouch in many ways. I've never used Oxygen.
The Oneplus is a better known and more popular phone than the NexS but I don't think it's a better phone (especially with that horrible notch). I look at the NexS as a premium Oneplus since they're basically from the same stable but with a bigger full screen, battery, wow factor pop-up camera and exclusiveness. I think it's the most underrated phone of 2018.
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Coming directly from the Mix2 and MIUI I actually prefer Funtouch in many ways. I've never used Oxygen.
The Oneplus is a better known and more popular phone than the NexS but I don't think it's a better phone (especially with that horrible notch). I look at the NexS as a premium Oneplus since they're basically from the same stable but with a bigger full screen, battery, wow factor pop-up camera and exclusiveness. I think it's the most underrated phone of 2018.
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Wanted to take the time and "mini-necro" this to thank you guys for the suggestion. Vivo is just... wow... I still went for the 6T but traded it like 2 months later and couldn't be more satisfied.
Cheers
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Wanted to take the time and "mini-necro" this to thank you guys for the suggestion. Vivo is just... wow... I still went for the 6T but traded it like 2 months later and couldn't be more satisfied.
Cheers
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We told ya!
Looking at what's been released so far for 2019, I don't really see any compelling reason to replace my Nex. It's that good and the new phones are just adopting what the Nex already has.
I'll use this post to ask something else. I'm getting a phone for a mate's birthday. Thinking about a Mi Mix 3 or an S9 Plus. I can get 'em both for the same price. Which should I take?
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I'll use this post to ask something else. I'm getting a phone for a mate's birthday. Thinking about a Mi Mix 3 or an S9 Plus. I can get 'em both for the same price. Which should I take?
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Neither. Get something with better battery life like the Zenfone 6, Nex S or P30. I'm a Xiaomi fan btw.
guys i git nex at 26k used 8 days n now selling at 23k 5 months used so should i upgrade to oneplus 7 not pro putting 10k extra ( m also interest in roms n mods) isbtht 10k worth
i currently own a note 9. yes its power house with features but i hardly use the s-pen. i dont care for it.
its got expandable storage but 128 built in is fine for me and i could care less for expandable. 128 suffice for me.
i am VERY attracted to the full no bezel screen and the slider for the camera is a WOW for me. i love it.
my own only beef at the moment is WHY the battery is 3200mah?
the note 9 has 4000. thats the only thing pissing me off. a con for the mix 3 and a pro for the note 9.
and no i dont want the mi 9 (i dont want notches) so please dont recommend it.
at the current shop its going for $459. which means if i sell my note 9 for lets say $425 i only pay a difference of $34 dollars.
i am a fan of miui interface and its tweaks ...
however, since the battery is minuscule at 3200 you'd think xioami would add dark mode since it has an amoled screen thereby help conserving battery ... yet from what i am reading all over the web the feature is still missing. or is available only on the global beta. and another option would be to use dark themes which may cause issues on some apps.
i also noticed there are pixel aosp based roms with "Smart pixels" feature. is that the same as dark mode? and will installing such rom lose the sliding functionality?
i am not a gamer. i use basic apps. rarely facebook. whatsapp, telegram and the usual chrome and youtube-vanced (which can be themed to dark mode).
i am not gonna ask about rooting and magisk cause i know its doable.
please help me. will the battery disappoint me?
on a side note, i noticed the usb type c in mix 3 is type 2 not 3 while the note 9 is 3.1
also, the addition of the free wireless charger out of the box is very nice. but does it do fast charging?
if the battery that trouble you, watch this video
https://youtu.be/eKyYdMdTfD8?t=456
even with 800mAh difference, Mix 3 only lost for about 30 minutes to Note 9.
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https://youtu.be/aDcJI7q1TTE
Note 9 lost to Mix 3 about 1 hour :shocked:
cylent said:
i currently own a note 9. yes its power house with features but i hardly use the s-pen. i dont care for it.
its got expandable storage but 128 built in is fine for me and i could care less for expandable. 128 suffice for me.
i am VERY attracted to the full no bezel screen and the slider for the camera is a WOW for me. i love it.
my own only beef at the moment is WHY the battery is 3200mah?
the note 9 has 4000. thats the only thing pissing me off. a con for the mix 3 and a pro for the note 9.
and no i dont want the mi 9 (i dont want notches) so please dont recommend it.
at the current shop its going for $459. which means if i sell my note 9 for lets say $425 i only pay a difference of $34 dollars.
i am a fan of miui interface and its tweaks ...
however, since the battery is minuscule at 3200 you'd think xioami would add dark mode since it has an amoled screen thereby help conserving battery ... yet from what i am reading all over the web the feature is still missing. or is available only on the global beta. and another option would be to use dark themes which may cause issues on some apps.
i also noticed there are pixel aosp based roms with "Smart pixels" feature. is that the same as dark mode? and will installing such rom lose the sliding functionality?
i am not a gamer. i use basic apps. rarely facebook. whatsapp, telegram and the usual chrome and youtube-vanced (which can be themed to dark mode).
i am not gonna ask about rooting and magisk cause i know its doable.
please help me. will the battery disappoint me?
on a side note, i noticed the usb type c in mix 3 is type 2 not 3 while the note 9 is 3.1
also, the addition of the free wireless charger out of the box is very nice. but does it do fast charging?
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Don't sell the note 9 and contribute more for a phone that's half as good
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if the battery that trouble you, watch this video
https://youtu.be/eKyYdMdTfD8?t=456
even with 800mAh difference, Mix 3 only lost for about 30 minutes to Note 9.
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Note 9 lost to Mix 3 about 1 hour :shocked:
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so the first video, battery life, the mix 3 died at 5 hours and 19 minutes. note 9 5 hours and 46 minutes. 27 minutes difference. not a big deal to be honest.
the note 9 and the mix 3 share the same processor, sd 845. yes, samsung has lots of bloatware crap and it may drain faster than the mix 3.
still though, i want to enable dark mode as i have gotten accustomed to it on the note 9 of using it.
furthermore, i have my note 9 set to the lowest resolution at hd+ (1480 x 720). not sure what the default is on the mix 3. (set to dark mode always on)
i plan on rooting and using titanium backup to freeze apps so i will tinker to my hearts desire to save battery!
Anyways, price wise,
i found the phone even cheaper at $445 (mix 3) as opposed to the shop at the mall of $459 which says he gives a year warranty. i dont give a damn about warranties cause i am always in the mood to switch phones. funny thing is its the same company with a branch shop at the mall. i guess they charge more cause of the mall.
i dont know. i may take the bullet and go for it.
the latest offer i got for my note 9 is $425 dollars. so i'd be adding only $20 dollars to purchase the mix 3.
would you do it?
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so the first video, battery life, the mix 3 died at 5 hours and 19 minutes. note 9 5 hours and 46 minutes. 27 minutes difference. not a big deal to be honest.
the note 9 and the mix 3 share the same processor, sd 845. yes, samsung has lots of bloatware crap and it may drain faster than the mix 3.
still though, i want to enable dark mode as i have gotten accustomed to it on the note 9 of using it.
furthermore, i have my note 9 set to the lowest resolution at hd+ (1480 x 720). not sure what the default is on the mix 3. (set to dark mode always on)
i plan on rooting and using titanium backup to freeze apps so i will tinker to my hearts desire to save battery!
Anyways, price wise,
i found the phone even cheaper at $445 (mix 3) as opposed to the shop at the mall of $459 which says he gives a year warranty. i dont give a damn about warranties cause i am always in the mood to switch phones. funny thing is its the same company with a branch shop at the mall. i guess they charge more cause of the mall.
i dont know. i may take the bullet and go for it.
the latest offer i got for my note 9 is $425 dollars. so i'd be adding only $20 dollars to purchase the mix 3.
would you do it?
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Don't pay to downgrade
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Don't pay to downgrade
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true true. but day after day my note 9 decreases in price so next week i may get a crappier offer.
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true true. but day after day my note 9 decreases in price so next week i may get a crappier offer.
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And it will still be better than the mix 3 which will also drop on price next week.
Only benefit over note 9 is the smaller bezels but they aren't that much smaller
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And it will still be better than the mix 3 which will also drop on price next week.
Only benefit over note 9 is the smaller bezels but they aren't that much smaller
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There's not much I like in the note 9 that the mix 3 doesn't already have expect for the battery.
I hate the s pen.
I hate the bezelz on the note 9 and they are not small.
I gave the guy who wants my note 9 a final price of 440$. If he accepts ill go for it.
If not, I'll stick to my note 9.
What I do like about the mix 3 is the slider. It's an absurd reason to do the trade. ? Plus as I said it shares all the same hardware expect for the battery.
Furthermore, I tend to like miui more Samsungs one ui crap interface.
On a side note I also considered the honor magic 2 but it lacks wireless charging so that's out of the question.
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There's not much I like in the note 9 that the mix 3 doesn't already have expect for the battery.
I hate the s pen.
I hate the bezelz on the note 9 and they are not small.
I gave the guy who wants my note 9 a final price of 440$. If he accepts ill go for it.
If not, I'll stick to my note 9.
What I do like about the mix 3 is the slider. It's an absurd reason to do the trade. ? Plus as I said it shares all the same hardware expect for the battery.
Furthermore, I tend to like miui more Samsungs one ui crap interface.
On a side note I also considered the honor magic 2 but it lacks wireless charging so that's out of the question.
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Screen to body ratio for note 9 is approx 83.4% while mix 3 is 85%, not really much difference. Mix 3 still has bezels.
Will lose IP rating, better build quality, better components, UI that works etc
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Screen to body ratio for note 9 is approx 83.4% while mix 3 is 85%, not really much difference. Mix 3 still has bezels.
Will lose IP rating, better build quality, better components, UI that works etc
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I suppose the 83.4 and 85 on paper might not seem big but in the hand and visually it looks better (the mix 3)
IP rating of water resistance you mean?
I don't go diving in swimming pools all day ?
Better components such as what? The build quality on both is on par. I literally compared them both at the store.... Not an issue.
UI that works? I stated I hated one ui which is samsungs ui and prefer miui.
Anywho. I think I am closing the question as I am not in the mood to do the switch and lose $25 for one. Then I have to install a beta version of miui just to get the dark mode feature.
And, my whole attraction to the sliding gimmick I gave to get over. I hardly take selfies so how is the slider benefiting me?
I just saw the phones next to each other and the mix 3 looked so much nicer. That's really it.
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I suppose the 83.4 and 85 on paper might not seem big but in the hand and visually it looks better (the mix 3)
IP rating of water resistance you mean?
I don't go diving in swimming pools all day ?
Better components such as what? The build quality on both is on par. I literally compared them both at the store.... Not an issue.
UI that works? I stated I hated one ui which is samsungs ui and prefer miui.
Anywho. I think I am closing the question as I am not in the mood to do the switch and lose $25 for one. Then I have to install a beta version of miui just to get the dark mode feature.
And, my whole attraction to the sliding gimmick I gave to get over. I hardly take selfies so how is the slider benefiting me?
I just saw the phones next to each other and the mix 3 looked so much nicer. That's really it.
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IP isn't just for water...
Build quality goes beyond looks. The wobble on the mix 3 is an example. Slider will get scratched
No point downgrading for a slider you'll hardly ever use
You don't need to install the beta as the theme store has identical themes to what the dark mode would do, pretty pointless feature to introduce in the system
Miui breaks notifications etc
Mix price is cheap for a reason
Mackay53 said:
IP isn't just for water...
Build quality goes beyond looks. The wobble on the mix 3 is an example. Slider will get scratched
No point downgrading for a slider you'll hardly ever use
You don't need to install the beta as the theme store has identical themes to what the dark mode would do, pretty pointless feature to introduce in the system
Miui breaks notifications etc
Mix price is cheap for a reason
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What do you mean by the slider will get scratched? The phone comes with a back cover.... Isn't that enough to somewhat protect it?
I don't consider it a downgrade unless you're talking battery capacity. As far as cpu, gpu, ram, internal storage... These are the same. As well as the screen which is also amoled.
Dark mode has made a huge battery difference in my note 9.as you may know amoled screens don't need to spend power to make the pixel white or any other color. If its black then the pixel is turned off thus conserving power. I don't know about the themes cause some use dark grey or near black and not true black. The whole dark mode feature is a true turn off the pixel.
Also, what do you mean by miui breaks notifications? I had a pocophone before and didn't have this issue.
cylent said:
What do you mean by the slider will get scratched? The phone comes with a back cover.... Isn't that enough to somewhat protect it?
I don't consider it a downgrade unless you're talking battery capacity. As far as cpu, gpu, ram, internal storage... These are the same. As well as the screen which is also amoled.
Dark mode has made a huge battery difference in my note 9.as you may know amoled screens don't need to spend power to make the pixel white or any other color. If its black then the pixel is turned off thus conserving power. I don't know about the themes cause some use dark grey or near black and not true black. The whole dark mode feature is a true turn off the pixel.
Also, what do you mean by miui breaks notifications? I had a pocophone before and didn't have this issue.
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You'll get grit and dirt between the screen and the back and over time when you slide you'll get scratches, potentially on the front cameras.
Screen might be amoled but it's not super amoled like the note 9 which is superior.
Have a look at the threads here where people moan about miui notifications.
If you're going to upgrade just to shave 1 or 2mm off the bezel then in my opinion it's a waste. I'll be going back to bezels with next phone later this month.
If you like the phone, just buy it and enjoy it. It's a good phone.
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If you like the phone, just buy it and enjoy it. It's a good phone.
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so i found the answer.
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix_3_5g-9602.php
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G
guess i'll have to wait.
decided not to sell the note 9. its a power house. literally!
Buying the Mix 3 5G might be the worst of the three options. Which 5G carrier are you planning to use it on??
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Buying the Mix 3 5G might be the worst of the three options. Which 5G carrier are you planning to use it on??
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Why? It has a 3800 mah battery + better features. A better cpu and gpu.
See comparison
https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9378&idPhone2=9602
I am in the middle east and its either 4g or 3.9g. That's not important for me. It's the bigger battery and other improvements
There aren't any improvements. The bigger battery is required to support the beta hardware, with a separate modem and antennas. You also indicated that price was very important to you. You also mentioned you're not a gamer, so I'm curious what you're going to do with all that extra CPU & GPU horsepower. I've yet to find anything, including games, that the 4G version can't handle perfectly already.
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There aren't any improvements. The bigger battery is required to support the beta hardware, with a separate modem and antennas. You also indicated that price was very important to you. You also mentioned you're not a gamer, so I'm curious what you're going to do with all that extra CPU & GPU horsepower. I've yet to find anything, including games, that the 4G version can't handle perfectly already.
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Hmm. I suppose you're right. So is my note 9 with 4000mah battery overkill?
You're making a good argument here. But then comes an important question: what's better at better battery management.... Miui or Samsungs one ui?
In regards to the price sure it's important. Xiaomi can get away with cheaper price and they don't include a few necessities like headphones or a otg adaptor which comes in the box with the note 9. These two accessories are important.
Does the Note 9 come with a 20W wireless charger? And are you telling me you don't already have headphones that will work with the Mix? I think the OTG adapter I bought some time ago was about $5. Also, define "better" when it comes to battery management. MIUI is about the best I've seen for battery management in terms of battery life, but not the best for killing background processes (which is how battery life is extended). The PE rom does a better job of battery management for me, battery life is about the same, but it's not as zealous when it comes to killing background processes. Unless I'm running secure DNS, the battery on my phone doesn't get below 50% by the end of the day.
Both are about the same price here so not an obvious choice..
i mostly care bout holy trinity of great cam+great batt+updates so one would argue its a no-brainer but still considering asus for some reason..
why did you go for Z6 instead of pixel?
Honestly, between the two the perceived value is the biggest thing for me. The Pixel 3a XL costs £470 vs the Zenfone 6's £500 price tag.
The Pixel has: OLED screen, expected quicker/longer support, great camera.
The Zenfone 6 has: More powerful chipset, more ram, larger screen, FM radio, 128gb vs 64gb (at mentioned prices), expandable storage, better front cam, generally better battery life ( according to GSMArena, only loses in video playback).
If the Pixel 3a XL was priced below £370 instead of £470 I'd probably get it and deal with that tiny storage for the sake of OLED, camera and quick updates. The current price just seems way too high even though 90% of the time I likely won't notice the chipset difference it's nice to have the option for things like emulation or just brute forcing against slowdown over the years.
I'm at the choice between 3a XL @ £450 VS Z6 @ £370 so..
Also "life" drain test like this makes it not an easy choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_TvN5Aw6Q
dezz said:
Also "life" drain test like this makes it not an easy choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_TvN5Aw6Q
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Don't take this test so seriously. For example he didn't disabled power hungry Facebook and Facebook services on ZF6.
Better to look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-6-2019/review/screen-time-t3932140
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I'm at the choice between 3a XL @ £450 VS Z6 @ £370 so..
Also "life" drain test like this makes it not an easy choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a_TvN5Aw6Q
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Where are you seeing the Z6 at £370?
So do you think gcam app can get as any closer to the pixel quality. It is the only concern I can think off work Z6
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Both are about the same price here so not an obvious choice..
i mostly care bout holy trinity of great cam+great batt+updates so one would argue its a no-brainer but still considering asus for some reason..
why did you go for Z6 instead of pixel?
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Camera, back cam shall be a bit(small may be) better than Z6 with gcam.
Camera selfie, DxO score for selfie is highest for Z6. If selfie is important, Z6 beat pixels/samsung due to flip cam.
Z6 beat others in battery life too (min 2 days and reach 3+ days for medium usage). Better processor than pixel 3a as u know already. Trust me, you will never be disappointed with Z6. I moved from s10+ to Z6 for better battery and selfie cam and I am happy with it.
So I actually got the Pixel 3a XL despite my original comment because I couldn't keep waiting. The camera is great (rear cam for standard shots seem better than the Z6) but you lose out on wide-angle, so got to think how much you'll miss that. Battery life is pretty good. Probably a lil bit worse than Zen 6 in most real world use but I get 9 hours SoT (mix of reddit, discord, maps, youtube, snapchat, whatsapp). I haven't had any issues with ram or speed like I was concerned, if you don't care about games the 670 will probably feel about the same as the 855 99% of the time.
If I could have the choice to switch to the Zenfone 6 free of charge now... I'm not 100% sure I would take it over the bit better rear camera and guaranteed and fast updates. The Zenfone 6 is definitely the better value + power, but for my casual use I don't think it matters that much to me now I have it. That said, if I owned neither and had both in front of me I'd probably buy the Zen 6 just because of the better value
E: Biggest downside is not being able to keep films and shows on storage because of the measly 64gb :'(
I ordered Z6 but after handling it for few hours sent it back and waiting for 3a XL to be delivered.
After so many positive reviews on the hinge mechanism I was disappointed how flimsy and rattle it turned out to be.
Another issue that I guess was decisive was the aosmark - I got burned twice with LG promising timely and long term support for their products (even opened dedicated r&d center) Its ok first few months up until new model comes out and support for the previous years one gets slower and disappears completely. Maybe it wont be that way this time but figured I don't have stomach for that.
I'm between buying the Samsung Galaxy S10e and Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro. Their prices in my country are 400€/330€ respectively.
The things I mostly care about in order: Display/Battery/Camera.
I don't care about games much, I use the phone for media consumption/creation and for professional use (web dev).
The reason I haven't already pulled the trigger is because I don't like the 9T's size. It's too big for my liking and the S10e is just a tad bigger than my previous phone.
However, I've read some really bad stuff about the Exynos variant battery. Plus the camera differences are noticeable.
The extras like camera OIS, expandable storage, IP certifications are all nice but if the battery sucks then it's not worth it, especially at a higher price.
Can I expect at least 6,5hours SoT with medium use?
I think 5 to 5.5 hours is more realistic. You can squeeze out a bit more in power saving mode, but performance will be less. Small phones also have small batteries...
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I think 5 to 5.5 hours is more realistic. You can squeeze out a bit more in power saving mode, but performance will be less. Small phones also have small batteries...
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I've read that the snapdragon version lasts for about 45 minutes longer than the exynos version which is my main concern. Would you recommend the 9T Pro in that case? As far as I can tell it has just as good cameras (as the exynos version at least), a much better battery life, a great display.. and it's cheaper. Having a bigger phone vs a mediocre battery life.
I guess you would have to be able to accept the Xiaomi software.
I avoid them because of that.
The S10e has a lot of good business grade stuff but a bigger battery would be nice. Mine was fine, had surprisingly good battery life even after updating into Android 10 but the latest security update seems to have damaged battery life, not sure why. I really hope they sort that out.....
So I can't advise you on your decision at this point, but the S10e is a nice phone with a lot of capability. Mine is a work phone.
I still enjoy my personal Axon 7 though, it's like a diamond in the rough. Hits the spot, although the OS is so much simpler.
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I guess you would have to be able to accept the Xiaomi software.
I avoid them because of that.
The S10e has a lot of good business grade stuff but a bigger battery would be nice. Mine was fine, had surprisingly good battery life even after updating into Android 10 but the latest security update seems to have damaged battery life, not sure why. I really hope they sort that out.....
So I can't advise you on your decision at this point, but the S10e is a nice phone with a lot of capability. Mine is a work phone.
I still enjoy my personal Axon 7 though, it's like a diamond in the rough. Hits the spot, although the OS is so much simpler.
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Thanks for your input. How much SoT would you say your S10e gives you currently?
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I'm between buying the Samsung Galaxy S10e and Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro. Their prices in my country are 400€/330€ respectively.
The things I mostly care about in order: Display/Battery/Camera.
I don't care about games much, I use the phone for media consumption/creation and for professional use (web dev).
The reason I haven't already pulled the trigger is because I don't like the 9T's size. It's too big for my liking and the S10e is just a tad bigger than my previous phone.
However, I've read some really bad stuff about the Exynos variant battery. Plus the camera differences are noticeable.
The extras like camera OIS, expandable storage, IP certifications are all nice but if the battery sucks then it's not worth it, especially at a higher price.
Can I expect at least 6,5hours SoT with medium use?
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Sold a 9T pro a couple of days ago... There some things that are very bad with that phone. The speaker is super bad quality. Very tinny compared to the s10 speakers. The screen is not on par. The build is OK. MIUI is not my kind of software, but there is Pixel experience... I think s10e is a better choice.
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Sold a 9T pro a couple of days ago... There some things that are very bad with that phone. The speaker is super bad quality. Very tinny compared to the s10 speakers. The screen is not on par. The build is OK. MIUI is not my kind of software, but there is Pixel experience... I think s10e is a better choice.
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Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it mate. I'm almost sold to the S10e. Will decide today. Thanks again.
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Thanks for your input. How much SoT would you say your S10e gives you currently?
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I really couldn't tell you. I just go by the ease of getting my day out of it and it used to do fine but just after the last update it nosedived and now I look at settings, uninstalls etc. Even went back to stock launcher in case that was the issue.
Next is backup, reset and set up again but really, I don't want to do that **** with a work phone.
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Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it mate. I'm almost sold to the S10e. Will decide today. Thanks again.
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I had both phones for a couple of days. Got the Mi 9T Pro to flash Pixel experience ROM and replace my S10e, but I couldn't do it. Xiaomi really cheaped out in some areas. The only thing better is the battery.
And I don't think the Exynos in S10 is bad. The single core performance is pretty good. The multi core is not bad. I personally am satisfied with the battery, for a compact phone.
I'm considering the Oneplus 7 pro. Just can't get past the huuuuge size.
With the latest update, my S10e with Exynos battery is pretty good. Only lost 2% overnight with Wifi on! OneUI 2.0 is one of the best Android Experience now, much better than buggy MIUI. Glad I switched from MI 9T.
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With the latest update, my S10e with Exynos battery is pretty good. Only lost 2% overnight with Wifi on! OneUI 2.0 is one of the best Android Experience now, much better than buggy MIUI. Glad I switched from MI 9T.
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What update, january or february?