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Canadian ROOT?

Dying to root my SM-G920W8 but Chainfire hasn't posted the files for our model. Has anyone succesfully rooted Canadian variant with a T-Mobile Chainfire autoroot file?
Thanks
EDIT: 920F Works for rooting! Bingo!

Hey just wondering are you on Rogers or a different canadian carrier? Was trying to use my Rogers S6 but it keeps failing on the write portion. Thanks!

nofilterdrake said:
Hey just wondering are you on Rogers or a different canadian carrier? Was trying to use my Rogers S6 but it keeps failing on the write portion. Thanks!
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It works on all Canadian carriers. Make sure you're using the latest version of Odin (3.10.6).

Brava27 said:
Dying to root my SM-G920W8 but Chainfire hasn't posted the files for our model. Has anyone succesfully rooted Canadian variant with a T-Mobile Chainfire autoroot file?
Thanks
EDIT: 920F Works for rooting! Bingo!
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Hey great to hear! also have a sm-g920w8 (canada, FIDO) , did you loose files and apps during the rooting process? Does it reset the phone to factory?
have you experienced any issues at all using 920F on 920w8 ?
Thanks!

ohandre said:
Hey great to hear! also have a sm-g920w8 (canada, FIDO) , did you loose files and apps during the rooting process? Does it reset the phone to factory?
have you experienced any issues at all using 920F on 920w8 ?
Thanks!
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It screwed up google. Had to factory reset but root remained.

Brava27 said:
It screwed up google. Had to factory reset but root remained.
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how so? Google now? google voice search? or apps in general like gmail/hangouts?
thanks for the reply.

ohandre said:
how so? Google now? google voice search? or apps in general like gmail/hangouts?
thanks for the reply.
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Store and Gmail lost connection. Anything I did didn't make it work.

Brava27 said:
Store and Gmail lost connection. Anything I did didn't make it work.
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So factory reset kept the root, however caused all your info (apps/files) to be erased?

CF-Auto-Root didn't cause me any issues with Google or other apps, but it did kill deep sleep. I flashed back the stock recovery and cleared the cache and now everything works 100%.

Doesn't wipe data. The 920F root works for Rogers after OTA.

Elisha said:
Doesn't wipe data. The 920F root works for Rogers after OTA.
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I want to do it but so hesitant.... It took courage when I used G925F root files on my G925W... but was successful.... worried about G920W.... as I already screwed a G920F......

Sorry new here
I have tried rooting my S6 edge with rogers I have latest odin 3.10.7 I used the proper kernel for my GSM925 w8......it failed.....when I put it in developer mode I see the video I saw he had an OEM on/off I don't see that for me just USB debugging. Anyone piont me in right direction or see my error?
Again sorry if I have posted wrong spot.
just tried again just in case.....custom binary(boot) blocked by a/l????

I have successfully rooted my Samsung Galaxy S6 from Rogers using the Skipsoft software.
I've been using a custom ROM while waiting for Rogers to upgrade to Marshmallow.
I understand Rogers is sending out updates now...Can anyone tell me whether or not I need to return to Stock to get the upgrade download?
thanks

[SM-G920R7] S6 Thread

My goal would be to install Cyanogenmod on my SM-G920R7, but haven't been able to find too much help. Any of the rooting methods that seem to work on rest of the S6 variants, doesn't seem to work on this one. There is no TWRP available that I know of.
I would really appreciate any possible help. Thanks in advance.

i have the same problem
I think that this version of the s6 (the cspire version) isn't widely available enough and no one has bothered to make a root for it - ive been searching for a long time and still haven't found anything

I'd like to at least be able to root this thing.. On 5.1.1 now.

I have a rooted cellphone of this version (I purchased it rooted), is there any workaround to unlock GSM/LTE bands on this device?
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Edit... Okay, so I went back to fresh stock with SmartSwitch, then flashed twrp-3.0.0-0-zerofltespr and Unikernel-v9b-BOH1-920P-100815 via odin 3.10.7, and rooted again... any method to enable gsm on this device yet?

jfarreola said:
I have a rooted cellphone of this version (I purchased it rooted), is there any workaround to unlock GSM/LTE bands on this device?
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Edit... Okay, so I went back to fresh stock with SmartSwitch, then flashed twrp-3.0.0-0-zerofltespr and Unikernel-v9b-BOH1-920P-100815 via odin 3.10.7, and rooted again... any method to enable gsm on this device yet?
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How exactly did you root it again? Was it SM-G920R7?

phreak311 said:
How exactly did you root it again? Was it SM-G920R7?
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Yes, it was SM-G920R7... first, I flashed twrp-3.0.0-0-zerofltespr , then Unikernel-v9b-BOH1-920P-100815 , both via ODIN (you can google both files), note these files are NOT for r7 version (they're for sprint version *g920p*) but they'll root the phone.
I ended up getting rid of the phone as there's afaik no way to enable gsm on it

jfarreola said:
Yes, it was SM-G920R7... first, I flashed twrp-3.0.0-0-zerofltespr , then Unikernel-v9b-BOH1-920P-100815 , both via ODIN (you can google both files), note these files are NOT for r7 version (they're for sprint version *g920p*) but they'll root the phone.
I ended up getting rid of the phone as there's afaik no way to enable gsm on it
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That's not true. I finally rooted that model and got TWRP installed, and followed the steps to get the Sprint Galaxy S4 domestic SIM unlocked. I finally got data and texting working last night, but I can't get calls to work for some reason on an AT&T SIM card. It even shows up at AT&T as my provider. AFIK it is now SIM unlocked, the only thing not working is calls like I said. I'm sooooo close to getting this working. I need people with this phone that are doing the same thing i'm doing! I only paid $50 for it! lol

Can u help me get mine unlocked , ive already rooted the phone.

shykidd said:
Can u help me get mine unlocked , ive already rooted the phone.
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How did you root the phone thanks for any help

phreak311 said:
That's not true. I finally rooted that model and got TWRP installed, and followed the steps to get the Sprint Galaxy S4 domestic SIM unlocked. I finally got data and texting working last night, but I can't get calls to work for some reason on an AT&T SIM card. It even shows up at AT&T as my provider. AFIK it is now SIM unlocked, the only thing not working is calls like I said. I'm sooooo close to getting this working. I need people with this phone that are doing the same thing i'm doing! I only paid $50 for it! lol
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What model did you use and what recovery to root phone

makemesmile said:
What model did you use and what recovery to root phone
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use root for sprint or us cellular

DEXEIL said:
use root for sprint or us cellular
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What model will work with my phone I have my backup for if something goes wrong but if I charge the recovery and have some type of issue can I use the stock rom again thanks for your help I had a gs3 rooted and really like it now I got the sm-920r7 what model with sprint or us cellular will work

Root sm-g920r7
lazydude said:
my goal would be to install cyanogenmod on my sm-g920r7, but haven't been able to find too much help. Any of the rooting methods that seem to work on rest of the s6 variants, doesn't seem to work on this one. There is no twrp available that i know of.
I would really appreciate any possible help. Thanks in advance.
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use the cf auto root download this use google to search first one that comes up use that link go to model sm-g920p cspire and sprint uses
the same network . Use odin to install i have same phone and have mine rooted in this way. So far tried using the sprint version custom rom it will work but you can make phone calls but not the data side for phone internet.
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how did you root the phone thanks for any help
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use the cf auto root download this use google to search first one that comes up use that link go to model sm-g920p cspire and sprint uses
the same network . Use odin to install i have same phone and have mine rooted in this way. So far tried using the sprint version custom rom it will work but you can make phone calls but not the data side for phone internet. Make sure you go to phone settings under find my phone and turn off reactivation lock

Any way to get the G920P roms to work on this variant? I've had luck with them with other c-spire/ntelos/r7 phones in the past. I'd like to flash Renegade to it...

blazie151 said:
Any way to get the G920P roms to work on this variant? I've had luck with them with other c-spire/ntelos/r7 phones in the past. I'd like to flash Renegade to it...
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It works but the phone data Internet won't work can make phone calls and sprints annoying activation keeps posing up and even tried the pit file for cspire no change on that
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Wonder if anyone has got calls working using GSM sim card? I have the cspire G920R7 rooted with LTE data working using AT&T sim.
Won't receive calls (straight to vmail) and when placing calls dialer says CALL ENDED immediatly after dialing.
hmmm.

TEC602 said:
Wonder if anyone has got calls working using GSM sim card? I have the cspire G920R7 rooted with LTE data working using AT&T sim.
Won't receive calls (straight to vmail) and when placing calls dialer says CALL ENDED immediatly after dialing.
hmmm.
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I'm working on this too. So far I've got the same situation as you, Data works but no calls/text.
in a few weeks the person who wants me to unlock this phone for them is switching carriers and plans on buying a new phone to use until I can unlock the S6, so I'll have more time to mess with it then.
There's a few things I want to try, but I can't post links here (XDA rules).
One involves Rooting and using a service code to unlock the bands (google "TeamUSCellular GSM unlock S6")
The other also requires rooting and involves using "galaxy tools" to unlock the bands (not sure if this app works with marshmallow, though) (google "theandroidsoul how to sim unlock sprint galaxy S6")
My hopes are not high for getting this phone to work fully. I've also been trying to get custom ROMs to work, but I can't get the cell radio to work at all on custom ROMs. Even with the stock SM-G920R7 Kernel straight from the latest update .tar

Sean89us said:
I'm working on this too. So far I've got the same situation as you, Data works but no calls/text.
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Thanks for the suggestion, yeah I have tried galaxy tools (GT) to change the phone mode to LTE/GSM auto and tried different CSC values, and accessed the hidden menus through there. The sim unlock in GT asks for a code which I dont know, but the phone doesn't seem to be locked anyway since it doesn't care when I try different sim cards. Weird thing is the GT app doesn't work very well (most hidden menus not working) on the current rom i'm using but worked better on the stock cspire rom. Note, I tried using MSL 000000 in ##3282# data menu and it works but most the settings in there don't seem to be applicable to GSM networks.
Currently I'VE been messing with the build.prop file, also tried the CDMA to GSM flashable zip which edits the build.prop but nothing has gotten better. One time after editing the build.prop the phone would only turn on with a blank screen and vibrate every few seconds, that was SCARY. Also was planning on flashing other radio/modem but having trouble finding many of those files and pulling them from roms seems difficult to get the correct file to flash on odin.

TEC602 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, yeah I have tried galaxy tools (GT) to change the phone mode to LTE/GSM auto and tried different CSC values, and accessed the hidden menus through there. The sim unlock in GT asks for a code which I dont know, but the phone doesn't seem to be locked anyway since it doesn't care when I try different sim cards. Weird thing is the GT app doesn't work very well (most hidden menus not working) on the current rom i'm using but worked better on the stock cspire rom. Note, I tried using MSL 000000 in ##3282# data menu and it works but most the settings in there don't seem to be applicable to GSM networks.
Currently I'VE been messing with the build.prop file, also tried the CDMA to GSM flashable zip which edits the build.prop but nothing has gotten better. One time after editing the build.prop the phone would only turn on with a blank screen and vibrate every few seconds, that was SCARY. Also was planning on flashing other radio/modem but having trouble finding many of those files and pulling them from roms seems difficult to get the correct file to flash on odin.
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I'm not sure you'll even be able to flash other models' modem..? I can't say I've ever tried.
Anyway, getting your hands on the firmware is easy. Just use SamFirm (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647)
To use it, just input the model number (SM-G920R7/R4/P/V/T/A) and the region code, then select "auto".
Region codes and model numbers:
C-Spire: ACG (SM-G920R7)
US-Cellular: USC (SM-G920R4)
Sprint: SPR (SM-G920P)
Verizon: VZW (Locked out from download, app can't download) (SM-G920V)
T-mobile: TMB (SM-G920T)
ATT: ATT (Locked out from download, app can't download) (SM-G920A)
This app downloads firmwares directly from Samsung servers, so the download is really fast and guaranteed to be perfect/stock.
**the SM-G920R7 is closest related to the SM-G920R4 (US Cellular) & SM-G920P (Sprint). The US Cellular one recently supports GSM Bands natively without any rooting/messing with hidden settings, so that's where i'd start. You may not even need the baseband/modem, just flash the rom? I'm not sure. Good luck dude It'd be awesome if you get it working
*** Also, make sure you have a backup of your EFS before messing with the modem. Apparently if you flash an incompatible modem you can erase/corrupt the EFS partition and lose your IMEI. Hell, make a FULL backup with TWRP, and make sure that backup is copied over to your computer before doing any flashing. You can't be too careful with this.

Haven't had any luck flashing stock firmware or modems from other models using Odin, errors with a security message or something, tried G920A and G920R4. Probably for the best I suppose. Flashing custom roms has not been a problem, even if the don't work properly. Wonder if there is a test mode or way to use logcat to see why calls don't proceed like normal. Never worked on going CDMA to GSM before, I always did CDMA to CDMA in the past.

Screwed up my SM-G930VL, please help!!

Hi,
I bought a SM-G930VL (tracphone branded, but verizon compatible) galaxy s7 for a pretty good price, however the advanced and wifi calling were not options (even though verizon told me they were before I purchased). I decided I would try to flash the VZW firmware from sammobile through odin, but it did not work. It originally gave me the ext4 error, but then flashing the csc fixed that. I then flashed the AP file, but it finished very quickly (about 3.5 min) and now will only boot into recovery when powered up.
Is there anything I can do to save my phone, or have I permanently screwed it up?
Thanks

holy sh*t got it working. Flashed the BL, AP, CP, and CSC files and it booted to welcome screen!!
Thanks all (and hopefully this helps anyone in the future who runs into this predicament)
It is currently checking wifi connection so hopefully all is well!
Edit: Is there a way to edit the title? That way this could be maybe help the next person rather than getting ignored.

whatnow275 said:
holy sh*t got it working. Flashed the BL, AP, CP, and CSC files and it booted to welcome screen!!
Thanks all (and hopefully this helps anyone in the future who runs into this predicament)
It is currently checking wifi connection so hopefully all is well!
Edit: Is there a way to edit the title? That way this could be maybe help the next person rather than getting ignored.
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Hi, want to ask a few questions. were you able to fully flash the Verizon firmware to this model with no issues? The phone is also supposed to be factory unlocked per my connections with reps.
Did the phone fully change to a SM-G930V, showing in settings and in Odin mode?

Yes I was able to fully flash Verizon and I have working wifi calling and advanced calling. In settings it shows up as V not VL as well. As far as I understand it is the exact same hardware just different software running on it
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whatnow275 said:
Yes I was able to fully flash Verizon and I have working wifi calling and advanced calling. In settings it shows up as V not VL as well. As far as I understand it is the exact same hardware just different software running on it
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Great, i flashed one yesterday for a friend via teamviewer and even changed the model as SM-G930V in odin mode. So I guess due to this the phone has now a locked bootloader and ended up being converted to a full Verizon galaxy S7. Only thing it did not take his Metro PCS sim card. Unsure it would take any other carrier sim cards.

aromerblz said:
Great, i flashed one yesterday for a friend via teamviewer and even changed the model as SM-G930V in odin mode. So I guess due to this the phone has now a locked bootloader and ended up being converted to a full Verizon galaxy S7. Only thing it did not take his Metro PCS sim card. Unsure it would take any other carrier sim cards.
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Was the boot loader originally unlockable? I was under the impression that all SD versions were locked down right. That's great that you got it to work also!
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whatnow275 said:
Was the boot loader originally unlockable? I was under the impression that all SD versions were locked down right. That's great that you got it to work also!
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It seems it was as it allowed me to flash the verizon bootloader and full firmware. Normally tracfones only allow to flash part of a firmware and rejects all bootloader partitions.

Is bootloader locked after flash g930v firmware. Or can I flash back to straight talk?

Cherb1990 said:
Is bootloader locked after flash g930v firmware. Or can I flash back to straight talk?
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haven't tried flashing back as have no reason for that. To top it off the firmware has not been released yet.

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haven't tried flashing back as have no reason for that. To top it off the firmware has not been released yet.
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I'm currently on Verizon switching to T-Mobile this week. Is it possible to flash to G930T? I flashed g930VL to G930V. But wasnt sure if I could. If of the phone would be compatible with T-Mobile

Cherb1990 said:
I'm currently on Verizon switching to T-Mobile this week. Is it possible to flash to G930T? I flashed g930VL to G930V. But wasnt sure if I could. If of the phone would be compatible with T-Mobile
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There were reports of someone flashing the phone to an SM-G930U (Unlocked US S7). So apparently they are interflashable. I however have not gone to that extent as am yet to get my one to thinker with. I flashed previously to a SM-G930V via teamviewer for a friend. You can search the threads and verify.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...0t1-metro-pcs-flashed-g930t-firmware-t3358941

aromerblz said:
Great, i flashed one yesterday for a friend via teamviewer and even changed the model as SM-G930V in odin mode. So I guess due to this the phone has now a locked bootloader and ended up being converted to a full Verizon galaxy S7. Only thing it did not take his Metro PCS sim card. Unsure it would take any other carrier sim cards.
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You probably figured it by now, but MetroPCS is the only retarded carrier that locks SIM to IMEI. So if you want to use MetroPCS on any other phone than the one you currently have it on, you need to call customer service and give them your new phone's IMEI. Then your new phone will start working. If you want to switch back to your old MetroPCS phone you need to call them again and give them that IMEI, which is retarded. I don't know why they do that but it's really annoying if you frequently switch phones.
I have a 935V (S7 Edge Verizon) and now have 935U ROM on it using Tracfone. Initially I have Tracfone's Verizon service but I wanted the freedom to easily move from one phone to another so I converted it to a Tracfone-GSM(ATT) and been using it in my Verizon S7 Edge (with 935U ROM) and iPhone SE without any problem.

whatnow275 said:
Hi,
I bought a SM-G930VL (tracphone branded, but verizon compatible) galaxy s7 for a pretty good price, however the advanced and wifi calling were not options (even though verizon told me they were before I purchased). I decided I would try to flash the VZW firmware from sammobile through odin, but it did not work. It originally gave me the ext4 error, but then flashing the csc fixed that. I then flashed the AP file, but it finished very quickly (about 3.5 min) and now will only boot into recovery when powered up.
Is there anything I can do to save my phone, or have I permanently screwed it up?
Thanks
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Could you add links to everything you used? I have the same model using straight talk and I want to be able to have a backup firmware to flash in case I ever mess up my phone (which seems to be a trend). And have you had any issues at all? Like, does everything work okay?

whatnow275 said:
Hi,
I bought a SM-G930VL (tracphone branded, but verizon compatible) galaxy s7 for a pretty good price, however the advanced and wifi calling were not options (even though verizon told me they were before I purchased). I decided I would try to flash the VZW firmware from sammobile through odin, but it did not work. It originally gave me the ext4 error, but then flashing the csc fixed that. I then flashed the AP file, but it finished very quickly (about 3.5 min) and now will only boot into recovery when powered up.
Is there anything I can do to save my phone, or have I permanently screwed it up?
Thanks
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I too would like to know if you could please provide links. Im rather new to this, the only other phone ive ever flashed rooted and put custom rom on was a Evo. But alls im looking to do is get my s7 rooted and it would be nice to have it flashed to Verizon first seeing as there root guide is for verison phone and firmware.

Dano5674 said:
I too would like to know if you could please provide links. Im rather new to this, the only other phone ive ever flashed rooted and put custom rom on was a Evo. But alls im looking to do is get my s7 rooted and it would be nice to have it flashed to Verizon first seeing as there root guide is for verison phone and firmware.
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It's been a very long time but I'll try to remember lol. Been in iPhone land for about a year (now I'm back with the good guys tho )

Help lol
whatnow275 said:
It's been a very long time but I'll try to remember lol. Been in iPhone land for about a year (now I'm back with the good guys tho )
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I bricked my SM-930VL too and it's not letting me flash anything back to stock. No clue what to do

How to Install another Model's Firmware w/o Changing IMEI?

I have an American model S7 Edge, but would like to install the firmware of my region so that I can get access to our 4g network. The bands are capable, so this phone is for sure able to access this, it's just my model is region locked, and to one specific carrier.
I was told there is a chance that this will result in altering the IMEI, which is not what I want at all, I just want to alter the firmware.
Is this at all possible? I tried before, but it only resulted in errors on Odin.

If you unlock it, does it access full network?
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ere1nion said:
If you unlock it, does it access full network?
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Yes. Before my phone crashed it was using the firmware of another country's model.

What if you try flashing the G930U firmware? It's the US's International version and I know it's able to be flashed onto the G930/5V (Verizon variants) with no problems at all. Maybe give that a try and see where you're at.

Outbreak444 said:
What if you try flashing the G930U firmware? It's the US's International version and I know it's able to be flashed onto the G930/5V (Verizon variants) with no problems at all. Maybe give that a try and see where you're at.
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Thank you, I shall try that version next!

help me about galaxy s4

hi
i have galaxy s4 i want to flash it
but
i dont know my model because
in setting and under battery show gt-i9505
and in download mode show sph-720t
so im confused witch frimware is valid for my phone

hey
does your phone turn on?
which android version are you using if it does?
why do you need to know what you asked for?
explain maybe i can further help you.
are you using verizon or at&t phone? (probably not since you said it's i19505)

Dan-Ruckz said:
does your phone turn on?
which android version are you using if it does?
why do you need to know what you asked for?
explain maybe i can further help you.
are you using verizon or at&t phone? (probably not since you said it's i19505)
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yes its turn on im on 5.0.1 stock rom
i want to know right model to download right frimware

very simple, go to settings, and scroll down to where it says about phone or info or something, then click software info, and you can find everything there. it is probably i9505.

dan-ruckz said:
very simple, go to settings, and scroll down to where it says about phone or info or something, then click software info, and you can find everything there. It is probably i9505.
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yes but in odin mode show sph-720t not gt-i9505
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ok your firmware is sprint, what Odin showing is the correct one, search for cwm for sph-720t.
DO NOT FLASH ROM VIA ODIN, flash new cwm or twrp recovery, then flash new rom through recovery. your firmware is most likely sph-720t which is sprint

dan-ruckz said:
ok your firmware is sprint, what odin showing is the correct one, search for cwm for sph-720t.
Do not flash rom via odin, flash new cwm or twrp recovery, then flash new rom through recovery. Your firmware is most likely sph-720t which is sprint
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can get it back to gt-i9505 because my phone is gt-i9505

is your phone carrier locked, or is it unlocked?

Dan-Ruckz said:
is your phone carrier locked, or is it unlocked?
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i think is unlock because any sim card work and i leave in algeria not in us

your phone might not be original, because if you bought it in Algeria it should be the international version, basically i think it is the sprint version, if Odin says so, you should look for your sprint firmware, but also for android 5.0.1

Dan-Ruckz said:
your phone might not be original, because if you bought it in Algeria it should be the international version, basically i think it is the sprint version, if Odin says so, you should look for your sprint firmware, but also for android 5.0.1
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it is original i know that
can i flash boot loader for gt-9505
then flash full frimware
i think say in odin that beacuse old owner flash it with sph-720t bootloeader

I think you can, but i am not sure. im sorry but i cant know certainly, try to google it and see, i think you can but not 100% sure