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I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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I think you're confusing internal vs SD card storage. My understanding is it's 1GB internal, and they ship with 8GB SD card (originally they were going to ship with 4GB SD so that's why there are some sites with bad specs out there).
I have a ton of apps installed and I still have half my total internal available.
I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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I believe you were misinformed. And I stand corrected, it's got 768mb internal, and 8GB flash storage.
Actually it does have 4gb of internal memory, but you can only use slightly over 1gb. This was the same issue with the G2.
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And 768 is the RAM
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And 768 is the RAM
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I'm not sure this is accurate. What's on the 4gb ROM? Makes no sense to have 4GB of read-only memory on any device.
If the OS\support is generally under 300mb, and is housed within the 768mb, what takes up the 4GB ROM? That wouldn't make any sense. I know there was some bad info that went out when the phone first released.... I think this may have stemmed from that.
I know ot doesnt make sense bit thats what it is. Liok at all stat sheets for.the phone. There is a pile of memory that is rwad only holding a backup of some kind.
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The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.
And I believe the 768 of RAM is for running processes, for multi-tasking.
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The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.
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Sounds like the same engineers who designed the AT&T network had their hands involved in this phone's design process.
Let's put a 20 gallon gas tank on a car, but weld a divider down the middle so someone can only put 10 gallons of gas in it. LOL
There was the same issue withe the G2 when it came out. It confused the heck out of a lot of them.
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I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.
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I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.
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GSMARENA Inspire 4G
gsmarena also states 4GB INTERNAL STORAGE, not ROM specifically.
From their site...
Internal 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 8GB included, buy memory
There is a thread in this forum with this issue questioned, and some guy emailed HTC. The answer we are telling you is the same they tell every one. This is not AT&T HTC phones do this, look at the G2 the Thunderbolt. It isn't a lie they are telling every one. That is what they use the memory for, some sort of back up(I don't know exactly what it is backing up). HTC does this with all the newer phones.....
Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11
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Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11
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I call shenanigans haha
Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...
Twenty4 said:
Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...
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If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)
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If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)
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I agree, I just pretend it only came with one gig and honestly, with 93 apps (50 on Sdcard), I still have 650 mb left so it doesn't bother me too much.
why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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dude it comes with an 8gb microsd card stop crying
nccu_eagles said:
dude it comes with an 8gb microsd card stop crying
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I've been using one of these in my TMO US HD2 running Froyo NAND.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211535
Copilot, mp4 videos, lot 'o audio files.
Not a hiccup.
Haven't run any apps from the card other than map data but I might try a couple.
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I've been using one of these in my TMO US HD2 running Froyo NAND.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211535
Copilot, mp4 videos, lot 'o audio files.
Not a hiccup.
Haven't run any apps from the card other than map data but I might try a couple.
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How is ADATA as a card supplier? I've only ever used Kingston & SanDisk & never had any issues. I've been looking in to getting a class 10 16GB card for when tmous drops the Sensation on the 8th & newegg has this one (when it comes back in stock).
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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Supposedly it has 4GB but only 1GB is user accessible (1.1 from what others here have reported).
first android. start learn. 1gb is nand data partition. (4gb all nand, system, cashe, data) used for system data (contacts, sms, u.t.t.) and apps. cant used for downloads and media. not need more.
but it would be better to have 16gb internal storage cause flash storage is always faster than a sd card (at least in terms of access time)
Seriously guys....it's no problem.
I got my sensation 3 days ago, installed 35+ apps and it hasn't even made a dent in the internal memory.
It's not like the desire if people are thinking it'll come to that.
After 35+ apps, i still have 800mb left of memory. I've got big games installed.
Seems a lot automatically install onto SD card without even telling it.
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why did htc only put 1 gb of internal storage into this phone. does anyone know what the reasoning was by doing this.first reports had it with 4 gb of internal storage now its 1gb. i know you can add memory via sd card but why not just make the internal memory 16/32 gb. not bashing the phone, i have mine on preorder and cant wait. this will be my first android phone, but just would have liked it to come with that much onboard.
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They did it because it was cheaper to put a smaller amount of NRAM in the phone.
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How is ADATA as a card supplier? I've only ever used Kingston & SanDisk & never had any issues. I've been looking in to getting a class 10 16GB card for when tmous drops the Sensation on the 8th & newegg has this one (when it comes back in stock).
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Of the 8 or so Adata cards I have purchased over the years, (With 4 kids, a wife and my toys, MP3 players phones, cards for work) I have only had to RMA 1 card, one time and they had an amazingly great support group here in the US.
Very happy with their products!
Good to hear Barff1984. sorry but i am new to android so i though 1 gb of storage was not going to be enough for apps. this will be my first android/htc phone and just want a great first experience.
As a current Desire owner, internal memory is the real killer for me. I've not been able to install an app in months as there is no room left. I'm thinking about upgrading to a Sensation mainly because of this (and it's just SO fast!). Just wish it had an amoled screen like my Desire. It looks so washed out in comparison.
it's 100x better than the desire when it comes to apps. I'm running out of things to download now (V heavy app user) and still have 70%+ space left of internal
So yea, don't worry about the internal memory....I've yet to find an owner who said they've run out of space. Unlike the desire.
It's actually quite strange moving from a desire. I used to have to delete a lot of apps, then reinstall at a later date when i wanted them. My Appbrain account was constantly used to reinstall...with the sensation though, i just installed everything...I'm going app-happy
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Of the 8 or so Adata cards I have purchased over the years, (With 4 kids, a wife and my toys, MP3 players phones, cards for work) I have only had to RMA 1 card, one time and they had an amazingly great support group here in the US.
Very happy with their products!
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good to know, thanks. also great to see someone else from the tmonews hd2 forum over here
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good to know, thanks. also great to see someone else from the tmonews hd2 forum over here
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Yeah. Been hanging around here since '05!
Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Normal.
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Normal.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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It's 16gb total on the att version, international is 32. I believe it's about 2gb for apps and 5 for os and system junk that is allocated.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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32 is for the international HOX. You still have 16gb of internal memory, but obviously that's not all accessible, which should've been obvious from the get-go. The system takes up space and I believe 2gb is reserved for apps and there are other partitions too that take up space.
The One X does seem to allocate a lot more storage to the OS, Apps, and System than previous HTC Android phones.
My HOX shows 2.21 GB total internal storage and 9.93 GB phone storage. That adds up to 12.14 GB. That means the OS, Apps, and System take up almost 4 GB. My older HTC Inspire 4G used about half of that.
A 16 GB iPhone or iPad has about 14 GB useable. It really sounds like they have allocated some extra storage for future expansion on some of the partitions.
Titanium Backup shows:
System ROM: 1.05
Internal: 2.37
SD Card: 10.6
I'm not sure where the remaining 2GB are. Does Android have a swap partition?
The system ROM is in EEPROM storage and doesn't use the flash memory.
Just wanted to know if anyone is using a 128GB micro sd /xd card with the s5
if so have you had any issues? are you rooted? do you have an ext4 partition?
Im thinking of getting one this week using a 28GB ext4 partition and 100GB of extra storage and copying / expanding the partitions I have on my current 64GB variant
I'm using one, with no problems
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Using a cheap eBay 128gig got it for $30 works great pictures load a tad slow but not bad for the price
Oh didn't know the S5 supported SD cards that large.
I'd be very very surprised if that's really 128GB.
I would soak test it before you put data on above about 4-8GB. I would also have a good close look at the partition table.
Just speaking from experience unless that's a second user one that's about a half to a third of the best prices out there.
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Using top dollar sandisk 128gb card. works flawlessly. no issues at all. wish I could figure out how to get burst photos to go straight to card.
This is the card I'm using. Been running it for a few months with no problems whatsoever.
128 Gb works just fine. It's class 10 sdcard. No issues. Unrooted+rooted.
Tried this card on a lg g pro 2 though. There i had a lot of problems.
I thought the S5 could only handle 64GB memory cards? I'm using a 64GB sandisk one and it works perfectly! In my opinion thats more than enough and I got it at a good price :fingers-crossed:
Just got the 128 gig card, so far so good, no problems, actual available mem on the card is 119gig, Using it on the Sprint S5 variant
labeeqhussain said:
I thought the S5 could only handle 64GB memory cards? I'm using a 64GB sandisk one and it works perfectly! In my opinion thats more than enough and I got it at a good price :fingers-crossed:
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Its in the original specs from Samsung . Indeed supports 128GB ..
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-6033.php
kjfan985 said:
Using a cheap eBay 128gig got it for $30 works great pictures load a tad slow but not bad for the price
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curioct said:
I'd be very very surprised if that's really 128GB.
I would soak test it before you put data on above about 4-8GB. I would also have a good close look at the partition table.
Just speaking from experience unless that's a second user one that's about a half to a third of the best prices out there.
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Please do that check before you start taking irreplaceable pictures. This is what I use, takes forever, but well worth the wait.
h2testw – Gold standard in detecting fake capacity flash
Oditius said:
Please do that check before you start taking irreplaceable pictures. This is what I use, takes forever, but well worth the wait.
h2testw – Gold standard in detecting fake capacity flash
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thanks I will look into testing it
Adata 128gb sdhc??
so this is the card that I bought off ebay. Ebay you say...... well its a huge piece of ****. to start it is a fake, found that out when I started to write to it and after it reached around 8GB it started to overwrite what was already there! SD card test app confirmed it. check before you buy, some fakes can be identified easily. below is what ADATA replied to me when I had asked them WTF was wrong my damn card. like it mentions below, check the manufacturers website for any pictures of the cards and related packaging and descriptions. bottom line is you get what you pay for. A $20 card is far from a $100. for me the card was cheap so I was willing to risk it, but I saw some Samsung cards as high as $80 and they were also fakes. Ill wait for the price to go down, and get it from a local reputable retailer.
Thank you for contacting ADATA.
You mentioned that you have a 128GB MicroSDHC memory card. However, ADATA has not manufactured any MicroSD memory cards that has exceeded the capacity of 64GB (please visit the following link to our current memory card product offerings):
http://www.adata.com/index.php?action=product&cid=7&lan=en&cid1=3
Also, MicroSD memory cards with capacities of 64GB and above are categorized as MicroSDXC, not MicroSDHC.
There’s a suspicion that you might have purchased a counterfeit product. To verify, please compare your item against the product images we have listed on our web pages. We could assist you with identifying the product as well if you could send us images of your product.
no, i haven't fill up my 16 gb internal yet :v
Using 128GB Class 10 on my Verizon S5 and have no issues at all.
Biggest problem I had was transferring files from previous 32GB to the 128GB (A lot of files, took a while).
I am also rooted and I have to say being rooted is better with the bigger (or any) SD card that way you can use the SDFix app and allow file browsers to write to SD.
I'm using a SanDisk Ultra 64 GB card for now but will jump to 128 GB sooner rather than later since it seems everyone has had good luck with using legit cards. I'm kind of waiting for a sub-$100 deal, though.
Anyone find any discounted 128gb SD cards on Amazon or anything?
Active_Matrix said:
Just got the 128 gig card, so far so good, no problems, actual available mem on the card is 119gig, Using it on the Sprint S5 variant
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It should just work, storage is storage. I am not sure what in the software, memory IO, or processors would make much of a difference. My 64GB samsung Class10 card works in the oldest of old devices that I have as far as android phones go, no problem. Even back in the android 2.3 OS. My Mifi hotspot even accepts and shares my 64gb sd cards' contents over DLNA.
I bought 128 micro sd adata and I have one problem whit videos, when I copy or move any video from my internal memory to micro sd that videos don't play on my s5 video player. Anyone has solution for this problem??
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Recommendations would be most appreciated.
I got a SanDisk 128 GB and it has been working great so far.
The Samsung pro plus or sandisk extreme pro lines are what you are looking for. Enjoy
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I would recommend you Samsung MicroSDXC 64GB PRO Memory Card. Also other Samsung cards are great.
Very good read/write speeds.
I put a Lexar 128 GB 1000x in my MXP and it is functioning great.
I'm considering purchase of this phone - sounds like support for a micro SDcard works well, so is there any benefit to buying the 64 or 32GB internal storage models vs. the 16GB model? I can capture video and do TWRP backups to the (relatively inexpensive) SDcard, so what am I missing on a cheaper 16GB phone?
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EmperorX said:
The Samsung pro plus or sandisk extreme pro lines are what you are looking for. Enjoy
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Is the Moto X a UHS-I or UHS-II compatible host device? The extra cost of these higher-end sdcards would be wasted otherwise, correct?
Edit - I googled this topic and found this post: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8cda627ead . In short, it confirms that the Moto X benefits from / takes advantage of a UHS-1 U3 microSD card. @EmperorX makes a good suggestion.
I still want to know if I really want to spend extra for a 32 or 64GB Moto X, given that I can buy a 32GB UHS-1 U3 card for US $15.
Both cards are UHS-I class U3
It does support uhs-1 from what I've read. We'll see, my wife's card gets here on Wed and I'll test out. Sandisk extreme pro.
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I see you've read what I read.
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UHS-1 U3 microsd card support even better in Android M
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Both cards are UHS-I class U3. It does support uhs-1 from what I've read. We'll see, my wife's card gets here on Wed and I'll test out. Sandisk extreme pro.
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If there's a good Android M ROM available yet, see about formatting it as phone-specific "internal" storage... See: https://www.androidpit.com/android-m-release-date-news-features-name#performance
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If there's a good Android M ROM available yet, see about formatting it as phone-specific "internal" storage... See: https://www.androidpit.com/android-m-release-date-news-features-name#performance
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That's the entire reason I went for one of these cards
Stoked on it!
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Problem
and what the maximum amount of the SD card can be used as system memory? I have a card to 64GB, and when you try to make it a system unit for a long time it formats, but it is empty and then says that the card is damaged, but if you use it like a regular card, it works fine and displays. Do not tell me what could be the problem?
device xt1575 android 6.0
how do the best microSD card options compare to internal storage (performance-wise)?
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That's the entire reason I went for one of these cards
Stoked on it!
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Can you report on the relative performance of your higher-end microSD card vs. the internal storage? For example:
compare the time it takes to do a TWRP backup of the whole phone to internal vs. the microSD card
Capture full QHD video directly to the microSD card
etc.
Thanks!
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Can you report relative on the performance of your higher-end SD card vs. the internal storage? For example:
compare the time it takes to do a TWRP backup of the whole phone to internal vs. the microSD card
Capture full QHD video directly to the microSD card
Thanks!
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Unfortunately there was an error in shipping.... So we had to reorder and now are waiting until next week or as late as the 15th for it to arrive... Never had an issue like this with Amazon prime before.. Lmao.
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Unfortunately there was an error in shipping.... So we had to reorder and now are waiting until next week or as late as the 15th for it to arrive... Never had an issue like this with Amazon prime before.. Lmao.
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Amazon has been really dropping the ball lately. I haven't had a package come on time in about a month or two, even with "guaranteed delivery by". Lol
Soul Monkey said:
I got a SanDisk 128 GB and it has been working great so far.
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I second that
Soul Monkey said:
I got a SanDisk 128 GB and it has been working great so far.
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Yup. Anyone splurge on a 200GB card yet?
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I use a 32gb Samsung Pro+
I've got a generic 32gb class 10 and I have it as internal and its really laggy when I use Facebook, twitter etc so at the moment I just chuck my games on there. If I get a San disk extreme or pro will that eliminate the lag?
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Maybe... But don't expect it to. Internal memory is much faster than even the fastest SD card. If you must use your SD card as internal storage for apps due to space, then move low usage apps to external card and heavy use ones to internal
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Yup. Anyone splurge on a 200GB card yet?
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I would like to know this too. There was some user who was successfully using a 200gb card in his phone. But since then I havent read of anyone else doing it. It would be great if we could use a 200gb card in our phone. Someone who is using it, kindly give your feedback.
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I would like to know this too. There was some user who was successfully using a 200gb card in his phone. But since then I havent read of anyone else doing it. It would be great if we could use a 200gb card in our phone. Someone who is using it, kindly give your feedback.
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Probably me, I have a Sandisk Ultra 200GB card. Works fine, no issues at all, ends up around 180GB usable. I've formatted it in both ext4 and exfat, both work fine. I did some benchmarks in another thread around here somewhere. Any questions, feel free.