Had to return my most recent phone for an unrelated reason. But I had a galaxy S5 from verizon that had svlte. It would let me make calls and use data without being connected to wifi. Phones like the G4 and note edge do not support this. And using advanced calling feature under settings is not an option for me since I use a straight talk sim card in the phone and verizon refuses to give access to advanced calling unless you're on a contract account. But yeah so I'm in the market for a different phone. And would like to know if anyone knows of a good list of phones out there for verizon 4g capable that support the svlte. I know there are other phones that have the VOLTE and the SVDO but I don't fully understand them. But I do understand that the s5 with the svlte did what I wanted it to do. And I know a LOT of the newer phones don't have the dual radio to support this. So yeah anybody know of a good list of phones? Because it seems this is either really hidden or not available knowledge on the internet.
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Had to return my most recent phone for an unrelated reason. But I had a galaxy S5 from verizon that had svlte. It would let me make calls and use data without being connected to wifi. Phones like the G4 and note edge do not support this. And using advanced calling feature under settings is not an option for me since I use a straight talk sim card in the phone and verizon refuses to give access to advanced calling unless you're on a contract account. But yeah so I'm in the market for a different phone. And would like to know if anyone knows of a good list of phones out there for verizon 4g capable that support the svlte. I know there are other phones that have the VOLTE and the SVDO but I don't fully understand them. But I do understand that the s5 with the svlte did what I wanted it to do. And I know a LOT of the newer phones don't have the dual radio to support this. So yeah anybody know of a good list of phones? Because it seems this is either really hidden or not available knowledge on the internet.
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32 views and then pushed off the board? Thought my title was pretty clear to where only people that knew would click on it. Guess not. But on top of that still looks like everyone knows as much as me. Phone companies should make this more well known. Or in my case verizon should make it more well known.
From what I've seen - AT&T only offers VoLTE/Wifi calling on AT&T authorized devices, so an unlocked Pixel is out of luck. I'm curious if there are any options or hacks on a rooted Pixel or anything else that can get around this AT&T limitation?? Thanks!
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From what I've seen - AT&T only offers VoLTE/Wifi calling on AT&T authorized devices, so an unlocked Pixel is out of luck. I'm curious if there are any options or hacks on a rooted Pixel or anything else that can get around this AT&T limitation?? Thanks!
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I have been hoping for something like this ever since I started using TMOBILE PHONES and then International Devices on the Att Nework. The option to be able to have root has surpassed my desire to have VOLTE speeds and Video Calling up to this point - but I would sure as hell love to get VOLTE Working.
Hopefully someone will make that happen. Way beyond my capabilities - but fingers crossed just the same.
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From what I've seen - AT&T only offers VoLTE/Wifi calling on AT&T authorized devices, so an unlocked Pixel is out of luck. I'm curious if there are any options or hacks on a rooted Pixel or anything else that can get around this AT&T limitation?? Thanks!
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My friend has Nexus 6p on AT&T which doesn't do VoLTE and also in the menu there was no option for it. When I put my T-Mobile sim card into his phone, then we were able to get VoLTE and WiFi Calling without issues. Changing carrier could be easier than experimenting I guess.
It's amazing these carriers still found a way to f*ck up unlocked phones with proprietary Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE. Hopefully they will add it at some point.
Good day all.
I'm looking for a better phone. First the circumstances.
My provider is Consumer Cellular and the network is T-Mobil because WiFi calling is a must where I live. ( poor service )
I am using a Samsung J7 which works fine but I miss my AMOLED screen and the pen of my former Note 3. While I can do everything on the Note 3 with the Tmo SIM it will not provide WiFi calling due to limitations in the contract between CC and ATT. AT&T will only support iPhones through resellers and I don't want one of those. Having been an ATT phone in its original life there was no WiFi calling function available at all.
I tried a Blackberry Priv the other day. I really liked the construction, features and feel of the phone and display was great. However! Could never get WiFi calling to activate making it a No Go. Had to return that phone.
I would not mind going to a Note 4, 5 or perhaps S5 or 6. But when searching there are so many variations I don't know how to tell I will get one that will work with WiFi on Tmo. I do know that if I see any hint of AT&T it will be a no-go. Full of bloat ware and non-functional for WiFi calling.
Many ads proclaim "unlocked" or "factory unlocked" but is there way to know if a specific model number has been a carrier phone or is truly unbranded and likely to have all the functions available based on the SIM/Carrier?
Thanks much.
paulckruger said:
Good day all.
I'm looking for a better phone. First the circumstances.
My provider is Consumer Cellular and the network is T-Mobil because WiFi calling is a must where I live. ( poor service )
I am using a Samsung J7 which works fine but I miss my AMOLED screen and the pen of my former Note 3. While I can do everything on the Note 3 with the Tmo SIM it will not provide WiFi calling due to limitations in the contract between CC and ATT. AT&T will only support iPhones through resellers and I don't want one of those. Having been an ATT phone in its original life there was no WiFi calling function available at all.
I tried a Blackberry Priv the other day. I really liked the construction, features and feel of the phone and display was great. However! Could never get WiFi calling to activate making it a No Go. Had to return that phone.
I would not mind going to a Note 4, 5 or perhaps S5 or 6. But when searching there are so many variations I don't know how to tell I will get one that will work with WiFi on Tmo. I do know that if I see any hint of AT&T it will be a no-go. Full of bloat ware and non-functional for WiFi calling.
Many ads proclaim "unlocked" or "factory unlocked" but is there way to know if a specific model number has been a carrier phone or is truly unbranded and likely to have all the functions available based on the SIM/Carrier?
Thanks much.
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An excellent place to look would be https://swappa.com
XDA uses this website as the official location to buy/sell devices, Take a look and hopefully you'll find what you need.
Thanks nice site but not much to pick from. I'll keep eye on post for other feedback to help me narrow my search to suitable phones. If I have some ideas as to model numbers that would be unbranded and can in the future be rooted and modded I will use that input to base my search. Not an emergency !
Hey all, considering getting a new phone, and this one seems like a beast. Currently have a pixel 2XL. On Verizon.
given that there aren't many choices for an unlocked bootloader on Verizon, how is this one running? Call quality okay? Any problems with the CDMA data? with all those things in mind, any advice on what model or what source I should use to purchase the phone? Thanks.
Running fine, the unlocked version works on all the carriers, popped a sprint Sim and it worked for 30 seconds before Sim locked up unforantly no support on sprint unless one plus 7 pro 5g. T-mobile was terrible what ever reason, full bars 1mb speeds or call couldn't be placed. Best place to buy is direct oneplus.com
Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
id love to know about the sim settings. im on verizon... phone works better than i thought it would. I expected more areas with poor to no reception... instead i basically get the same coverage i did with my s10, but if i can make it better, i sure want to.
thanks
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Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
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Likewise I would love to hear the tweaks for Verizon.
There is no cdma data. I've not missed it much except in the forests of Oregon. Turning on roaming got me service though on the extended network.
WiFi calling and Verizon video chat doesn't work.
Other than the pixel, about the only other choice on Verizon would be an unbranded Moto.
Are there any differences (Hardware like LTE, 5G Band differences or software differences) between AT&T and US Unlocked versions?
Hardware should be no difference. Radio bands should be the same. Software is different. The unlocked comes without carrier bloatware.
That is correct. The software is the only difference. I had the Samsung Note 10+ unlocked on AT&T. I couldn't get WiFi call or HD voice. This time I went the Note 20 Ultra AT&T version. Not a big deal. I just remove the bloatware from the phone using ADB. You can find articles on how to do it.
Weird that I was told by VZW that I couldn't wifi call on the unlocked version. But I can.
I had the U1 version on ATT. Worked great. Some menus missing, such as ability to choose VOLTE butncall quality was great. Has to call ATT to change to a 5g plan for 5g.
By the unlocked version, are you referring to the SM-N986B/DS? I am researching as well and I am on the AT&T network.
Edit: my bad misread title.
I had a U1 N10+ and as someone else mentioned, no wifi calling or HD Voice (VOLTE). Even flashing the U firmware. ATT typically has to Whitelist your phone to unlock those features. Running the U would unlock Video Calling (useless unless the other person is also on ATT) and Advanced Messaging (also an ATT only service). The day I got my N20Ultra, I popped my ATT activated sim, and no VOLTE / HD voice, and no wifi calling. Being on U1, the rest of the features weren't available (video calling, advanced messaging, vvm) which isn't surprising since it's debranded.
In another thread, it showed that Factory Unlocked N20Ultra will have HD Voice hut NOT wifi calling. That's fairly new, so YMMV. Saw the post earlier this week. Not sure it's it's live already or in the works. Some phones had support for WiFi calling and HD Voice, but the N20 series were showing only HD Voice at time of article.
I've since dumped att for Metro (Tmobile) for a few reasons, but primarily their reluctance for fully support a factory unlocked device. They are making a step in the right direction, but honestly, VOLTE and WiFi Calling should be standard features supported. Like why wouldn't you want me to call on wifi instead of clogging the wireless towers? Both work OOTB with Tmobile.
Edit: If you have no plans to switch carriers, I'd get it through att. Even if you run U1 for now, you can change your mind later and know all the features will work on U. If you buy factory unlocked, and need WiFi calling, there's no guarantee it'll work even if you load U firmware. In the past, the device has to have the IMEI specifically whitelisted on their end.
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I had a U1 N10+ and as someone else mentioned, no wifi calling or HD Voice (VOLTE). Even flashing the U firmware. ATT typically has to Whitelist your phone to unlock those features. Running the U would unlock Video Calling (useless unless the other person is also on ATT) and Advanced Messaging (also an ATT only service). The day I got my N20Ultra, I popped my ATT activated sim, and no VOLTE / HD voice, and no wifi calling. Being on U1, the rest of the features weren't available (video calling, advanced messaging, vvm) which isn't surprising since it's debranded.
In another thread, it showed that Factory Unlocked N20Ultra will have HD Voice hut NOT wifi calling. That's fairly new, so YMMV. Saw the post earlier this week. Not sure it's it's live already or in the works. Some phones had support for WiFi calling and HD Voice, but the N20 series were showing only HD Voice at time of article.
I've since dumped att for Metro (Tmobile) for a few reasons, but primarily their reluctance for fully support a factory unlocked device. They are making a step in the right direction, but honestly, VOLTE and WiFi Calling should be standard features supported. Like why wouldn't you want me to call on wifi instead of clogging the wireless towers? Both work OOTB with Tmobile.
Edit: If you have no plans to switch carriers, I'd get it through att. Even if you run U1 for now, you can change your mind later and know all the features will work on U. If you buy factory unlocked, and need WiFi calling, there's no guarantee it'll work even if you load U firmware. In the past, the device has to have the IMEI specifically whitelisted on their end.
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I spoke to AT&T for hours and they whitelisted my international Note20 Ultra IMEI. I still don't have Wi-Fi calling and they absolutely don't know why... I regret switching from T-Mobile to AT&T... but unfortunately have to stay with AT&T for 2 more years because of iPhone deals we got...
Guys, all you have to do is flash the U Home CSC for and you'll have all the features on ATT and still have U1 firmware on your U1 device. At least for me on this phone and two previous, the Samsung devices were already "whitelisted" with ATT
Can a US CSC be flashed to another snapdragon model, namely 9860?
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Can a US CSC be flashed to another snapdragon model, namely 9860?
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My guess is no .... But not sure
So if I have a at&t version and flash the u1 firmware would I have wifi calling?
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So if I have a at&t version and flash the u1 firmware would I have wifi calling?
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No. If you're on the AT&T version, stay there.
I can't believe AT&T would whitelist all Samsung Unlocked devices, that would really surprise me. You can buy AT&T locked Galaxy phone and unlock it with AT&T since you bought it outright, and then of course it would be whitelisted.
Still Less Features for Factory Unlocked Models?
Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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They cannot. Att and att based subsidized carriers. Do not allow byod on votle or wifi calling. I have a trick to make it work for a couple hours. So I know its possible. But after a few hours their systems reprovision your device and shut them back off.
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They cannot. Att and att based subsidized carriers. Do not allow byod on votle or wifi calling. I have a trick to make it work for a couple hours. So I know its possible. But after a few hours their systems reprovision your device and shut them back off.
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Too bad. Thanks for the reply. Feel better about passing up the sale especially since it will probably be a common sale price during Xmas sales.
And WiFi Calling is too important a feature to trade for a discount of a hundred or even two.
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Too bad. Thanks for the reply. Feel better about passing up the sale especially since it will probably be a common sale price during Xmas sales.
And WiFi Calling is too important a feature to trade for a discount of a hundred or even two.
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Yea. If you provision volte and wifi on a actual att phone and sim swap they work for a while. Usually around 4 or 5 am. Then it shuts off and never works again. Till sim swap and reprovision
VoLTE on unlocked Samsung S20 and Note20 series phones is set to "on" by default, but unchangeable (greyed out). As of right now, there is no ability to select WiFi calling until Samsung decides to grace those of us with unlocked phones that ability.
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Read through this thread and tried digging around in all other logical forums and it seems that it's still the case that one cannot get WiFi calling on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked model?
Asking because Amazon is selling the Note 20 Ultra 512GB Factory Unlocked today for $1,200.
Found a Reddit thread that has people stating there will be a Samsung update that addresses this.
Have seen various posts in various places about flashing file(s)/ROM to enable this.
Any authoritative answer as to whether WiFi Calling (and Voice Over LTE) can be enabled on AT&T with a Factory Unlocked Note 20 Ultra? Or authoritative assurance it will, soon?
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There is a long term method but it involves calling att, and getting your IMEI registered so you can get VOLTE and wifi calling. Ask customer service. I can't remember the name of the department you need to request. It takes a couple of weeks and then you suddenly get a weird sms (something like IMEI provisioned) and then it works. Did it on note 9.