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Hi,
I have a Samsung Omnia 7 unlocked but originally I bought it from T-mobile, and I was wondering if it's possible to remove the T-mobile splash screen from the start-up? Really annoying.
Thanks!
btw: i switched from iphone 4. never gonna go back.
afraid not. the carrier would of loaded it as part of the rom. give it time and you may find that you can flash a new rom on, but for now it's not possible.
Guess I'll have to live with it for now.
Thanks for the quick reply!
mkaan said:
Hi,
I have a Samsung Omnia 7 unlocked but originally I bought it from T-mobile, and I was wondering if it's possible to remove the T-mobile splash screen from the start-up? Really annoying.
Thanks!
btw: i switched from iphone 4. never gonna go back.
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how often are you reseting your phone? I've only seen that screen about 3 times in 3 weeks.
I didn't reset the phone, just let the battery go off before recharging fully again. Just to make sure battery life will be perfect. Did this 3-4 times so far.
mkaan said:
I didn't reset the phone, just let the battery go off before recharging fully again. Just to make sure battery life will be perfect. Did this 3-4 times so far.
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Ok. So you are using a 20 year old nickel cadmium battery in your phone?
des163 said:
Ok. So you are using a 20 year old nickel cadmium battery in your phone?
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Not this again, some people myself included prefer to power cycle their batteries a few times. I don't care what anyone says but I always see an improvement after 2-3 charges. HD7 was crap for battery before I charged it a couple times.
May just be in my head...
bernaserra said:
Not this again, some people myself included prefer to power cycle their batteries a few times. I don't care what anyone says but I always see an improvement after 2-3 charges. HD7 was crap for battery before I charged it a couple times.
May just be in my head...
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New phones tend to "learn" a new battery. That may be what gave you the improvement.
bernaserra said:
Not this again, some people myself included prefer to power cycle their batteries a few times. I don't care what anyone says but I always see an improvement after 2-3 charges. HD7 was crap for battery before I charged it a couple times.
May just be in my head...
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This is exactly how I think.
mkaan said:
This is exactly how I think.
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You guys should be allowed to do whatever you want with your phones, but you should also know that there is absolutely no reason to cycle lithium-ion batteries.
question answered. the guy asked, i answered. no need to ask why or whatever.
mod, please just close thread. this debate goes on as bad as the android debates.
Hi guys! Iam tempted on buying the gear S3 here but its ridiculously expensive where i live and therefore it needs to be near perfect for me to justify the purchase! My main concern is battery life (more so the actual phone then the watch) I understand the theory that your inclined to check your phone less and therefore your phones battery goes further but iam interested in how much actual screen on time your losing!! For example.... If you charge your phone to 100% and you connect your gear s3 to it and leave it for 24hours and in that time you don't use your phone at all! How much would your battery have dropped after 24 hours?
Iam a massive battery junkie and i love how good my phones battery is and for me personally i would rather not use the gear s3 if its gonna kill my phones battery! Even a 1% drop an hour to me would bordering on too much as that would equate to a 24% drop on your phone in 24hours without using ur phone at all!
I normally get 4 days use out of my battery, however I recharge after about 3 days.
neils31 said:
I normally get 4 days use out of my battery, however I recharge after about 3 days.
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iam talking about the impact it has on your phone?
Blaalad12 said:
iam talking about the impact it has on your phone?
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It's insignificant unless you're using GPS. I really notice no difference at all.
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It's insignificant unless you're using GPS. I really notice no difference at all.
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Literally no difference? So it virtually uses no battery??
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Literally no difference? So it virtually uses no battery??
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Not literally none obviously, but it is so little that I don't notice it. Less than 1% per hour.
I did a six hour hike the other day, logging the hike on the watch and S-health did take a more noticeable hit on the battery. Like more than 10% but I don't recall that happening on other hikes.
I think the S3 is the best smartwatch currently available. I've had mine for six months and am still very happy with it. But you said a couple of things in your post that give me pause. While I'm OK with spending $350 USD on what is essentially a phone accessory, the S3 is far from the "near perfect" that you may be expecting. Furthermore, your obsession with battery efficiency is a trait that you may find very irritating with smartwatches. Obviously you can do what you want, but I would be remiss if I didn't suggest caution regarding your expectations.
4% per night without wearing
First of all. I truly hate the battery drain threads, as I never had issues with it before.
I've had all pixels xl, and most of the nexus phones.
With the pixel line, I had never been so happy with battery, specially pixel 2 xl. Battery would last 1.5 to 2 days for me (I am very conservative in usage)
However, with the 3 xl, at the end of the day yesterday, I had 39%> This was a day I did not use the phone except for 10 sms, quick stock checks, 2 emails, no phone calls, 15 minutes of music with bt headphones in the metro.
Last night, I put it in safe mode, charged it. TODAY, I took away from the charger at 6am, checked emails, back in the pocket. At 8 am, I had 90%.
Removed from safe mode at 8 am. Checked some messages, spoke for 10 minutes over the phone, checked emails and stocks. It is now 9:20am and my battery is at 80%
Not good. I am really disappointed.
Could I have a defective unit? Am I spoiled with my excellent pixel 2 xl? I did see one youtuber complaining about his battery.
I am afraid mine is defective. If not, I want to go back to the pixel 2 xl.
If you have yours, and had a pixel 2 xl, please let me know how you feel about it please!
Thanks
UPDATE 12/17/18: Nothing really changed much. Pixel 3 XL is horrible with the battery when compared to Pixel 2 XL. What a disappointment in this phone, all over the place. Battery, Buggy, Notch, Audio Recording, Video Recording, Face Unlock, Gestures, etc. What a waste of hard earned money. Of all Pixels and Nexus, this is together with the Nexus 6, the most I have been disappointed.
I truly love these phones, what they represent and all, but after years with the 'google phones', it might be time to try something else.... seriously.... with this phone, the fact that I still did not receive a $50 credit from google, and all these $300 discounts, with free pixel wireless charger and pixel earphones, after 2 months from launch, it makes me extremely disappointed of being an early adopter. Next year I am definitely waiting until January, after reading all reviews and trying it out first before I buy, or just getting a different brand phone.
I am very disappointed this time around.
Hmm I haven't noticed that yet on mine. So far the standby drain has been pretty solid. I haven't had a lot of time to test it obviously, but so far it isn't standing out as an issue for me yet.
largeselection said:
Hmm I haven't noticed that yet on mine. So far the standby drain has been pretty solid. I haven't had a lot of time to test it obviously, but so far it isn't standing out as an issue for me yet.
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Hopefully I will have more responses like yours. If I do I will just exchange the phone with a new one. My unit is really draining fast. From my original post to now, with standby and NO USE of the phone, I am down 2% to 78% (I am using a desktop with the forum).
Thank you.
karikian said:
Hopefully I will have more responses like yours. If I do I will just exchange the phone with a new one. My unit is really draining fast. From my original post to now, with standby and NO USE of the phone, I am down 2% to 78% (I am using a desktop with the forum).
Thank you.
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Before you exchange it, you might try conditioning the battery. Use it until it dies, fully charge it, use it again until it dies, and then one more cycle. If you .are still observing issues after that, then definitely return it.
I only suggest this as conditioning the battery is likely easier than an RMA.
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Before you exchange it, you might try conditioning the battery. Use it until it dies, fully charge it, use it again until it dies, and then one more cycle. If you .are still observing issues after that, then definitely return it.
I only suggest this as conditioning the battery is likely easier than an RMA.
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I just spoke to customer service. They told me to factory reset and try again. When I mentioned that it got ward when setting up the phone, they even offered a device replacement, but I told them I am willing to try the factory re-set. I will try this and then your suggestion, kill 2 birds with the same shot.
I am so disappointed, really am... but alright, let's try this again!!!
karikian said:
I just spoke to customer service. They told me to factory reset and try again. When I mentioned that it got ward when setting up the phone, they even offered a device replacement, but I told them I am willing to try the factory re-set. I will try this and then your suggestion, kill 2 birds with the same shot.
I am so disappointed, really am... but alright, let's try this again!!!
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Sounds defective to me. 2nd day of having it I got 8 hours screen on time and it went 18 hours before needing a charge. Good luck though...I'm honestly super impressed with this phone and want everyone to have the same experience!
TheBobMiller said:
Sounds defective to me. 2nd day of having it I got 8 hours screen on time and it went 18 hours before needing a charge. Good luck though...I'm honestly super impressed with this phone and want everyone to have the same experience!
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Thats what I got on my second charge. I got more on Pixel 2XL in the beginning of course.
TheBobMiller said:
Sounds defective to me. 2nd day of having it I got 8 hours screen on time and it went 18 hours before needing a charge. Good luck though...I'm honestly super impressed with this phone and want everyone to have the same experience!
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When did you turn on the battery saver? From the beginning? At the end?
I did reset to factory, now am waiting for it to fully drain and will try again tomorrow... let's see how it goes...
Thank you!!
karikian said:
When did you turn on the battery saver? From the beginning? At the end?
I did reset to factory, now am waiting for it to fully drain and will try again tomorrow... let's see how it goes...
Thank you!!
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Battery saver automatically came on at 15%. I was actually shocked that I got that much SO time with it. Haven't gotten quite that again but close.
TheBobMiller said:
Battery saver automatically came on at 15%. I was actually shocked that I got that much SO time with it. Haven't gotten quite that again but close.
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Thanks. I did recycle the battery, did the factory reset, etc, still having issues. Google is shipping me a new phone Hopefully that will help.
I did see some videos on youtube of people complaining about the battery life, also notice an article that shows that Pixel 2 XL lasts about 1:20 hours more than the 3 XL. Pretty disappointing...
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-3-vs-Pixel-3-XL-battery-life_id110162
But still, mine is performing way worse than that. Let's see what the new phone will give me... Thank you!
Restricting Pixel Ambient Service from running in the background helped a little for me and I haven't noticed it interfering with anything yet. Ambient Display seems like it uses more battery on the 3 XL than on my old 2 XL. I didn't even know you could restrict the Pixel Ambient Service but you can. I also don't use Adaptive Battery because it doesn't make a difference in battery for me.
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Restricting Pixel Ambient Service from running in the background helped a little for me and I haven't noticed it interfering with anything yet. Ambient Display seems like it uses more battery on the 3 XL than on my old 2 XL. I didn't even know you could restrict the Pixel Ambient Service but you can. I also don't use Adaptive Battery because it doesn't make a difference in battery for me.
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I will try that.
I had a definitive test today, while I wait for my new phone.
From 9 AM, and fully charged phones, I got the following after 4 hours and 30 minutes:
PIXEL 2 XL: 96%
PIXEL 3 XL: 73%
VERY disappointing... Thumbs down to my new phone...
karikian said:
I will try that.
I had a definitive test today, while I wait for my new phone.
From 9 AM, and fully charged phones, I got the following after 4 hours and 30 minutes:
PIXEL 2 XL: 96%
PIXEL 3 XL: 73%
VERY disappointing... Thumbs down to my new phone...
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Wow...that's significantly different!!! I've had SOT of 2:55 today and have 35% left? I honestly expected better battery life than my old s7 edge...
awilson1818 said:
Wow...that's significantly different!!! I've had SOT of 2:55 today and have 35% left? I honestly expected better battery life than my old s7 edge...
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Exactly my point... the new phone should really have better battery life...
If my replacement behaves the same way, I will have to wait with my 2 XL for another year...
karikian said:
I will try that.
I had a definitive test today, while I wait for my new phone.
From 9 AM, and fully charged phones, I got the following after 4 hours and 30 minutes:
PIXEL 2 XL: 96%
PIXEL 3 XL: 73%
VERY disappointing... Thumbs down to my new phone...
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This almost sounds like an Adaptive Battery issue. After a week of playing with this device, it has picked up on my habits and the battery performance started getting better over time.
Im getting 0.8%/hr standby and 10%/hr screen on. Is that OK?
Seiga said:
This almost sounds like an Adaptive Battery issue. After a week of playing with this device, it has picked up on my habits and the battery performance started getting better over time.
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I've had it for 6 days as well
lollyjay said:
Im getting 0.8%/hr standby and 10%/hr screen on. Is that OK?
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The great kernel developer known as Flar2 once told me that if your active drain is under 12% and your idle drain is under 1%....your doing good. :good:
Badger50 said:
The great kernel developer known as Flar2 once told me that if your active drain is under 12% and your idle drain is under 1%....your doing good. :good:
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Thanks. That's good to know. I really respect flar2.
Badger50 said:
The great kernel developer known as Flar2 once told me that if your active drain is under 12% and your idle drain is under 1%....your doing good. :good:
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My active drain is 11.8 and my standby is 1.8. The AOD is definitely using more battery on the 3 XL than it did on the 2 XL. I wish I still had my 2 XL so I could test them side by side.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
I do this on my devices religiously... And while my wife does not, after 18 months with our previous Pixel 2's... Mine carries a noticeable advantage in battery over hers.
On occasion, I will let it fully charge, but not for very long, and never plugged in overnight.
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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You are not wrong.
I have been on both sides of this fence over the many years I have been running Android phones. Phones that I ran for 3+ years and swollen/poorly performing batteries if they weren't babied have both went the way of the dodo bird so to speak. My wife and I ran the OG Pixel and Pixel XL pretty much from the beginning until the 3s were released. They basically lived on a charger when not in use, and neither had any depreciation in performance. My only real strict battery usage rule for the past close to 3 years (including some other devices that belong to me, my wife and my sons) is to NEVER use the device while it is charging. The batteries are better as are the chargers and OS battery implementation, and the odds of me using a device long beyond 2 years is pretty slim. Some things like using the right charger and not messing with charging settings are pretty obvious to me. I will admit that I have my own OCD device things like daily reboots and cleanup, but as far as the battery goes I agree with fury that the device is to be used. If I am losing my time and device performance trying to milk a better SoT that doesn't really mean $hit, I am using the device wrong.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I think that's a hard correlation to make. Usage changes over time. Your battery might last 24 hours no problem on day one, but then you add in a new app that uses more data, or you start playing a game more that uses more battery and you feel like it doesn't last as long. A lot of people say "no, I use all the same apps" and that might be true for 95% of the apps, but all it takes is one to change the battery life.
As others said, if you intend to keep the phone for 2-3+ years, the battery life may be a concern, but if you're planning to upgrade once a year or every other year, I don't think you will see any noticeable gains from worrying about the battery.
When my battery is low, I charge it. I have a Pixel Stand on my desk at work and it sits there most of the day. When I get home I use the phone and plop it on a Choetech wireless pad at night so it's 100% in the morning. It's also on power (albeit low/slow) with Android Auto in my car during my commute both ways. I also have days where I'm away from battery for hours and lose about 1% per hour (fairly standard with Always on Display). I've been doing more or less this same routine with all three of my Pixel XL devices (OG, 2 and now 3) with no issues. The only change with the 3 is that it has wireless charging which makes charging much more seamless.
Hope you enjoy your new phone, however you decide to use it! :good:
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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The problem with this is alot of manufacturers will stop producing batteries around the same time they stop producing the phones. With my experience I've had a hard time finding batteries that were oem quality, and even if you do, who knows how long that thing has sat on the shelf?
If you're all curious how your battery is degrading over time, download an app called Battery Health. It's a very simple app that tells you what % of the total battery capacity is still available for use. It only took about 2 months for mine to drop into the 90's.
Hi everyone
I'd like to have the charging limited to 90%. For that I need to know what the config file is where charging can be disabled.
I have tried /sys/class/qcom-battery/restrict_chg but it doesn't seem to be working.
Does anybody know whether I can make this work and how?
Don't bother, since this phone has a buggy pmic.
Aw crud...
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/input_suspend seems to be working in principle.
Why do you want to limit the charge to 90%? Do you think it will make your battery last longer? Because it's not, I have been discharging to around 15% 5-6 days a week (while at work) and then leaving the phone charging over night (7+ hours), and first time I felt my battery is getting weaker was after like year and a half maybe more, so just don't bother, Lithium batteries are much more durable to a point that limiting your charge and not charging to full and similar nonsense will likely make your battery last even less.
Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
Yea, year and a half before I started to see signs of the battery weakening, I changed it after almost 3 year in my old Mi A2 Lite, before I bought Poco, I think three years is fine, don't you?
I have never owned a phone that went more than two years of adequate charge. The first was mi Mi Max 3 which I charged every other day and never more than 90%. Didn't notice any lost charge after more than 3 years.
Also once the app works, it doesn't cost me anything to do so why wouldn't I?
Try using acc and acc settings
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Try using acc and acc settings
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I have found the file that works. At least so far. Haven't noted any defective chip as someone else suggested... well aside from it not charging very quickly but I mean, I charge over night... I don't care if it doesn't quick charge... should help longevity as well.
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Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
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My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
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My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
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That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
Marco2G said:
That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
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The comparison is very poor, because in the worst case you buy a new battery for €15.