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Hello all, thanks in advance for any suggestions
I have a Galaxy S5 that I will be taking back to the store since we haven't been able to get root on it yet, fairly satisfied with the phone.
I had an S3 and then a HTC Thunderbolt before that, both with removable batteries.
Removable batteries have been a huge pro for me, I am often very hard on battery using bluetooth and playing media for 12 hours at a time away from charger.
Really other than being a little tall the battery is what is keeping me away from the M8.
What options does a guy have to combat a non replaceable battery? I know the little pocket power cells have come a long way, and I currently always carry a spare battery now so maybe that is a lateral change. Are there some of those that charge very fast?
I tend to keep phones running a LONG time and pass them down to wife/kids and removable battery has always been a big pro to that.
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Hello all, thanks in advance for any suggestions
I have a Galaxy S5 that I will be taking back to the store since we haven't been able to get root on it yet, fairly satisfied with the phone.
I had an S3 and then a HTC Thunderbolt before that, both with removable batteries.
Removable batteries have been a huge pro for me, I am often very hard on battery using bluetooth and playing media for 12 hours at a time away from charger.
Really other than being a little tall the battery is what is keeping me away from the M8.
What options does a guy have to combat a non replaceable battery? I know the little pocket power cells have come a long way, and I currently always carry a spare battery now so maybe that is a lateral change. Are there some of those that charge very fast?
I tend to keep phones running a LONG time and pass them down to wife/kids and removable battery has always been a big pro to that.
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an external battery like you mentioned or a battery case. if you're worried about wearing out the battery, im sure you can replace it manually after 2-3 years by opening up the phone (there's teardowns posted already). I can't speak on either battery option though bc i have a charger at my desk.
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an external battery like you mentioned or a battery case. if you're worried about wearing out the battery, im sure you can replace it manually after 2-3 years by opening up the phone (there's teardowns posted already). I can't speak on either battery option though bc i have a charger at my desk.
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The M8 got a very poor repair-ability score from ifixit so a battery swap won't be a simple choice. Thus my being a bit cautious.
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I had an S3 and then a HTC Thunderbolt before that, both with removable batteries.
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Ditto, followed by a Galaxy S4.
Removable batteries have been a huge pro for me, I am often very hard on battery using bluetooth and playing media for 12 hours at a time away from charger.
Really other than being a little tall the battery is what is keeping me away from the M8.
What options does a guy have to combat a non replaceable battery?
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Probably no options are needed. I used to carry a spare battery (or two!) for my T-Bolt but found I could live with the S3 and S4 batteries by keeping a spare battery on a charger and swapping batteries around 6 PM each day.
I was VERY nervous about going to the M8 with the non-removable battery but it lasts and lasts and lasts....... I take it off the charger at 7 AM when I get up and have more than 50% when I go to bed, usually around midnight.
I have a car charger, never needed to use it, I have a USB cord plugged into my PC so I can charge while I'm typing this, never do though, it's not needed.
I can't speak to battery life 3 years down the road when cell phone batteries start losing life but in 3 years I suspect this phone will be as obsolete as a rotary dial phone is now and I'll be looking for the latest gee-whiz phone that is cosmic ray powered or ????
Don't worry about the battery, it'll be fine.
FWIW, rooted, TWRP recovery, running BoneStock ROM (thanks, AndyBones!) with power saver turned OFF!
xs11e said:
Ditto, followed by a Galaxy S4.
Probably no options are needed. I used to carry a spare battery (or two!) for my T-Bolt but found I could live with the S3 and S4 batteries by keeping a spare battery on a charger and swapping batteries around 6 PM each day.
I was VERY nervous about going to the M8 with the non-removable battery but it lasts and lasts and lasts....... I take it off the charger at 7 AM when I get up and have more than 50% when I go to bed, usually around midnight.
I have a car charger, never needed to use it, I have a USB cord plugged into my PC so I can charge while I'm typing this, never do though, it's not needed.
I can't speak to battery life 3 years down the road when cell phone batteries start losing life but in 3 years I suspect this phone will be as obsolete as a rotary dial phone is now and I'll be looking for the latest gee-whiz phone that is cosmic ray powered or ????
Don't worry about the battery, it'll be fine.
FWIW, rooted, TWRP recovery, running BoneStock ROM (thanks, AndyBones!) with power saver turned OFF!
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Thanks for the input! Glad to hear very good and optimistic reviews of the power, thanks for sharing what you are running rooted wise and the like, I am missing being able to do that already on the S5.
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Thanks for the input! Glad to hear very good and optimistic reviews of the power, thanks for sharing what you are running rooted wise and the like, I am missing being able to do that already on the S5.
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YW, hope it helps. You know what works for one may not work for another, right?
When Samsung and VZW locked down the S4 (and later the S3) I knew I wouldn't be buying another Samsung phone, us flashaholics GOTTA FLASH!
I was in the same boat as you. I almost went with an S5 because of the non-removable battery. Not being able to remove the battery is a stupid, and lazy, design idea. I watched a few videos about the battery and went for it. I have to say its at least 50% better than my TBolt. At the end of the day my TBolt usually was at about 30-45%. Now with the same exact usage patterns the M8 ends at 98%. Yeah I seem to only use 2% over an 8 hour work day. I use it on breaks of course. I plan on buying one of those portable batteries for emergency charging and I've got at least 3 chargers in various places. I used my phone at a family event for about an hour and a half. I watched 3-4 youtube videos ranging from 10-20 minutes each at max quality and did some web browsing and that brought it to 75%. Tethering with the WiFi Router app can suck it down pretty fast though. All in all Im happy with how well the battery holds up. Im sure someone will sell a better battery you can replace down the road with a little disassembly.
Concerns about a non-removable battery are overblown now days. If you're going to carry around extra batteries, you can just as easily carry around an auxiliary battery. The smaller ones are the size of a lipstick and are rated around 3000 mah, enough to double the capacity of nearly any device currently on the market. If that's not enough for you they go all the way up to 12000 before they start getting too large to carry around. By the time the battery actually needs replacing, you will likely have moved on to another phone.
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I was in the same boat as you. I almost went with an S5 because of the non-removable battery. Not being able to remove the battery is a stupid, and lazy, design idea. I watched a few videos about the battery and went for it. I have to say its at least 50% better than my TBolt. At the end of the day my TBolt usually was at about 30-45%. Now with the same exact usage patterns the M8 ends at 98%. Yeah I seem to only use 2% over an 8 hour work day. I use it on breaks of course. I plan on buying one of those portable batteries for emergency charging and I've got at least 3 chargers in various places. I used my phone at a family event for about an hour and a half. I watched 3-4 youtube videos ranging from 10-20 minutes each at max quality and did some web browsing and that brought it to 75%. Tethering with the WiFi Router app can suck it down pretty fast though. All in all Im happy with how well the battery holds up. Im sure someone will sell a better battery you can replace down the road with a little disassembly.
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how do you expect a 90% metal phone to have a removable battery? i don't see this as possible. you're gonna get tabs that break off very easily or something else that fails bc you want to take your battery out easily.
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
Well, I recharge it every night with no worries. If the battery loses its capacity to a point that it cannot handle a full day I'll just buy another one.
Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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That's the beauty of having a removeable battery. You can charge everynight without worries of shortening the battery's lifespan.
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Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.
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sbm888 said:
The GN3 is an amazing phone - I love it, even with stock rom it easily lasts 2 days with about 3-5 hours screen time - which makes me ask, do/should you still charge every night?
For Note 1 and Note 2, going 2 days was pushing it, so I always charged nightly, but with Note 3, I'm wondering whether I shouldn't charge as much since it easily does 2 days?
the reason I ask is, the myths about charging too much, or leaving charged for too long, etc may ruin or reduce the life of your battery.
I still charge every time I'm next to a charger (at the office) even though I know my phone will last me another day or so.... I just like to see the battery over 50% - but is this going to ruin my batter quicker? always charging? and unplug and replug many times a day....
what does everyone else do? to charge or not to charge?
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The number of recharges (the lifetime of the battery) is clearly limited so if possible I am charging in a very conservative way - once every 2 days if it works that way. But that is not always possible (and in some days I charge after a single day), plus as a backup I have a 2nd battery (fully-charged) in my backpack.
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Yes there are limited life cycles to a batery so you have to charge smart. Well if you use it... you should at least once a month use up all the battery and leave it uncharged for 4 to 6 hours after it shuts down. If it turns on its not the time to charge ot yet... let it rest another couple of hours. That way you always have the full battery at your disposal, not only a part of it... thats my experience...
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Yeah, actually the worst you can do to an modern battery is to discharge it to deep...This will kill lifetime everytime you're doing this.
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Read this: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Only empty the batterie once! (at first start to calibrate the phone)
Charge before below 30%
Charge as slowly as possible
Use google before posting nonsense
Thanks to the rest who know what they're talking about!
ps. This can be noticed when charging when dead it will be dead within a day after 2weeks of letting the batterie die everytime.
If you then charge every night again it will recover some and last longer after a while.
Let's bust a few myths here, first.
Drain cycle: Not needed. On the old batteries, you needed to do a full drain every month or some because it build up a memory. That's ancient history. It is infact very bad for your battery to do so on these new ones. Refrain from fully draining it unless you're having issues with the calibration. (Ex. if it shuts down at 20%.) Drain it once the very first time you get it. Not ever again after that without serious cause.
Best to keep at 100%: Hell no. Fully charged, particularly keeping it at fully charged, is actually quite bad for a Lithium-Ion battery.
Lithium-Ion batteries in consumer products last about 300-500 full charges before they start showing serious degradation in strength. The fuller you charge it and the longer you keep it on the charger, the lower that number becomes. Charging from 50% to 90% might make you 800 charges, where 10% to 100% will only last 300 charges.
It is best to keep the device between 30% and 90%. It is also better to charge small increments than long charges. So it's preferable to charge from 70 to 90% each time as opposed to waiting 3 days and charging from 5% to 100%.
There's been quite a number of threads all over XDA for various devices with this same question
Technology is always evolving.
But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.
That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...
We all want to learn something...
Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.
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jvarzim said:
Technology is always evolving.
But when you post a link to a specialist website you must have seen the first link who talks exacly of what I was talking about.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
None the less it's possible, and I agree with the last post (it makes perfect sense) that things are now diferent.
That's why we use foruns in the first place. There are not smart users, and the others...
We all want to learn something...
Thank you for bringing some new knowledge to me.
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If my battery level below %50 I do.
Hi guys,
I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?
Thank you
Biker1121 said:
Hi guys,
I've a short time my note 3 but Im a little bit dissapointed because of battery life, I have note 3 for 3 days and battery life is terrible, I did factory reset and now it seems look good. Just tell me if this is normal that Android system drains battery almost like display. Is this stats good ?
Thank you
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Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.
A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that.
ShadowLea said:
Yes, that's normal. It's a KitKat thing. Most people have it sitting somewhere around 25%, so 15% is nice.
A highly inaccuate KitKat thing, at that. Yesterday I played Oh Edu! Towns (a town building game that's quite heavy) for 8 hours straight, and it(stock, BBS and GSAM) said the game used 2% and Android OS 22%. Somehow I doubt that.
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Do u think that custom rom like Omega will solve problem with battery life? I've got root I will just flash rcovery and rom.
I'm charging whenever I have the chance, always need to be on a high-level charge, preferably 90% and more.
There are some myths regarding charging habits that might extend the life span of the battery, one of which is to unplug the phone when the charge level hits 100%.
That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013
I charge it several times a day after the KitKat update. My HTC one was great with the update, yet my Note 3 battery life took a dive. I used to get well over a day (24 hours and some minutes) with about 4-5 hours screen time with jelly bean. Now I get 14 or so with 3 hours screen time. I've factory reset, tried greenify (no root, sucks) disabled everything and still don't get much more.
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Lets be honest, most of the people here tend to upgrade to the newer phone when it comes out, depending on how much better it is of course, so we tend to have a phone for 2 years or less...
Most batteries will live that long with no problem and by the time you're ready to offload you "old" phone for an upgrade, batteries cost a few $on ebay so even if it requires a new battery it isn't too expensive...
A battery should easily last you for the amount of time you're going to be using it barring of course power surges, misuse or just a faulty battery....
Charge away and be happy. If it dies it's replaceable...
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That works for me so far, I have been charging this way since July 2013
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Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013..
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Impressive, considering this phone was announced 4 September 2013..
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Oh Man, sorry for that...
I own a Note 3 and a S4, and I just wanted to share my experience with the battery charging habits of the S4, since in this category I'm quite sure it applies to the Note 3 also.
BTW, I've been doing the same (Battery charging) for the Note 3 also.
I do but usually at 500mah when I sleep.
I've had a note 1 and currently use the note 3. I NEVER get more than 12 hours out of my phone. in fact, I carry 2 batteries with my note 3, the note 1 was even worse, I had to carry at least 3 batteries with me to keep me going for the day, and when I say the day, i mean like 18 hours. I'll freely admit that I use my phone more like a netbook than a telephone. I very rarely actually talk on the phone, instead using my phone mostly as a tablet for use with facebook, feedly, web browsing, a couple games, taking notes (evernote ftw), twitter, foursquare, pandora and maps, the occasional email, taking photos. with the battery drain level of the note 3, I'd really have liked to see a battery with roughly twice the capacity to keep me happy for a day, possibly a day and a half with slightly more casual use.
that having been said, yes, i charge every night, because one battery is dead and the other is at 5% or so when it's time for bed. - thankfully I invested in a charge dock which charges the battery in my phone while it charges a spare.
For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
I do this on my devices religiously... And while my wife does not, after 18 months with our previous Pixel 2's... Mine carries a noticeable advantage in battery over hers.
On occasion, I will let it fully charge, but not for very long, and never plugged in overnight.
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
fury683 said:
Use your phone and enjoy it. I don't think any efforts like this are worth it, personally.
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You are not wrong.
I have been on both sides of this fence over the many years I have been running Android phones. Phones that I ran for 3+ years and swollen/poorly performing batteries if they weren't babied have both went the way of the dodo bird so to speak. My wife and I ran the OG Pixel and Pixel XL pretty much from the beginning until the 3s were released. They basically lived on a charger when not in use, and neither had any depreciation in performance. My only real strict battery usage rule for the past close to 3 years (including some other devices that belong to me, my wife and my sons) is to NEVER use the device while it is charging. The batteries are better as are the chargers and OS battery implementation, and the odds of me using a device long beyond 2 years is pretty slim. Some things like using the right charger and not messing with charging settings are pretty obvious to me. I will admit that I have my own OCD device things like daily reboots and cleanup, but as far as the battery goes I agree with fury that the device is to be used. If I am losing my time and device performance trying to milk a better SoT that doesn't really mean $hit, I am using the device wrong.
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For the first time ever on my phone, I'm babying the battery on the Pixel 3. I'm only allowing the battery to be in the 50-80% range. Occasionally it will get out of that range but I try not to let that go on for too long. Will this have a noticeable impact on the longevity of my battery? Has anyone ever tried it on a Pixel or Android phone?
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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Yes, that works, but to what end? Are you planning on keeping your phone for 3 years or so you upgrade every year? It's a good technique for those who want to keep their phone for years.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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I just find it to be disappointing and a loss of value that I notice clear degradation every six months or so. When your phone is new and you're away from an outlet for 24 hours, no problem! Fast forward 18 months and that same scenario is a major problem. After 24-30, months I feel I HAVE to upgrade because the battery performance is so mediocre (if not outright poor). That's why I want to know if babying the battery pays noticeable gains in the future.
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I think that's a hard correlation to make. Usage changes over time. Your battery might last 24 hours no problem on day one, but then you add in a new app that uses more data, or you start playing a game more that uses more battery and you feel like it doesn't last as long. A lot of people say "no, I use all the same apps" and that might be true for 95% of the apps, but all it takes is one to change the battery life.
As others said, if you intend to keep the phone for 2-3+ years, the battery life may be a concern, but if you're planning to upgrade once a year or every other year, I don't think you will see any noticeable gains from worrying about the battery.
When my battery is low, I charge it. I have a Pixel Stand on my desk at work and it sits there most of the day. When I get home I use the phone and plop it on a Choetech wireless pad at night so it's 100% in the morning. It's also on power (albeit low/slow) with Android Auto in my car during my commute both ways. I also have days where I'm away from battery for hours and lose about 1% per hour (fairly standard with Always on Display). I've been doing more or less this same routine with all three of my Pixel XL devices (OG, 2 and now 3) with no issues. The only change with the 3 is that it has wireless charging which makes charging much more seamless.
Hope you enjoy your new phone, however you decide to use it! :good:
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Why not just spend the $80 and replace the battery after a year or so? If I liked the device that much or I couldn't afford a new one for almost a grand then I'd certainly give that a shot. I think the Pixel 3 replacement is pretty easy and you can do it yourself. I'd drive myself crazy watching the battery level all day long. I think the apps on the device are more important anyway. After a year, a factory reset will probably get more life than a year of what you are doing.
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The problem with this is alot of manufacturers will stop producing batteries around the same time they stop producing the phones. With my experience I've had a hard time finding batteries that were oem quality, and even if you do, who knows how long that thing has sat on the shelf?
If you're all curious how your battery is degrading over time, download an app called Battery Health. It's a very simple app that tells you what % of the total battery capacity is still available for use. It only took about 2 months for mine to drop into the 90's.
I've been an avid follower of Accubattery and keeping my battery from degrading...BUT I'm curious if anyone knows, is this still a thing in 2020 with the N20U?
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
They appear to have sound research on it but wondered if anyone else has information about it?
Huh? I've been charging my phones to 100% since 2008. Don't worry about it.
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I think it stands for old batteries and chargers, that charged them at a constant rate while lithium ones are sensitive to heat (at least) and need variable voltage and current depending of their actual charge level or they degrade faster over time.
And that exactly what the Power Delivery standard does which Samsung phones are compliant since the Note 10 if I'm not wrong.
So i wouldn't mind charging to 100%
I've been charging my phones to 100% and leaving them on the charger overnight for years! I've never seen any noticeable degradation of the battery life due to this.
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Huh? I've been charging my phones to 100% since 2008. Don't worry about it.
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Pretty much this lol.
I try not to leave them on the charger all night these days but I did that for years also and no issues either.
Not worth the hassle for me. I've had slight battery degradation if I keep a phone two years, but hardly worth daily struggles. I usually upgrade after a year anyway, haha.
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Pretty much this lol.
I try not to leave them on the charger all night these days but I did that for years also and no issues either.
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We also change phones every 6-12 months [emoji1787]
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We also change phones every 6-12 months [emoji1787]
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Haha yeah thats a good point...never have one long to even think about battery issues lol
I charge my Note 10+ to 80% and Accubattery shows battery health at 99.95%
I have noticed battery health falling about 8% in one year of use if you always charge to 100%. That being said, I think Samsung has improved batteries a lot and Note10+ onwards use special battery that degrades slower than previous devices
The old 40%-80% was for older technology batteries. Even then it only extended the battery life marginally, and only over many years. it's not like it's a magic cure to make your battery last a significantly long time.
Just charge the phone to 100% whenever you need to, and don't worry about how often yo need to charge it. Battery technology has come so far, and it doesn't matter how often you charge them or how high. There's technology in there to stop charging once it reaches 100% so that it doesn't overcharge.
On the Tab S tablet and under the charging setting there's a protect battery toggle where it will charge the battery to 85%.
I don't know why they don't have this option on their phones but I'm not sure how necessary it really is.
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I still do the 20%-80% thing...lol...
I'm kinda OCD
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I had great success on my note 9 with the 80 percent charge. Over the long haul it seemed to me to keep getting better. I am doing it now to see how it goes . I also avoid fast charging as much as possible to see if that helps as well. I wasn't aware that they made changes since the note 9 ,so maybe it's all for nothing.
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I seem to be on a “how to” kick this AM .... so I understand the debate about 80 vs 100
But how in the heck do you guys actually accomplish only charging to 80%?? I’m so busy I can’t remember to do half the stuff that I really need to remember , let alone remember to take my phone off the charger.
Also do you guys just turn of all 3 of the “fast charging” options in the settings , unless you need them at a particular time?
jcrompton said:
I seem to be on a “how to” kick this AM .... so I understand the debate about 80 vs 100
But how in the heck do you guys actually accomplish only charging to 80%?? I’m so busy I can’t remember to do half the stuff that I really need to remember , let alone remember to take my phone off the charger.
Also do you guys just turn of all 3 of the “fast charging” options in the settings , unless you need them at a particular time?
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I used to turn of all fast charging options. I also would find a routine where the time needed to charge matched the time I was doing something without the phone. For me in the morning when getting ready for work was the best time . Had it down to a science, and the alarm from accu battery helps me as well. It does go kinda rough at first, but after a month or so , I did notice that the charges to 80 lasted longer, then it was down to once a day.
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I bought this nifty little gadget called a Chargie (chargie.org). DHL/USPS still jerking me around on delivery so I've not yet received it, but oddly excited about trying it.
Have you guys noticed with wireless charging the phone is still warm after reaching 100 percent.
Chargi
k.babymamma said:
I bought this nifty little gadget called a Chargie (chargie.org). DHL/USPS still jerking me around on delivery so I've not yet received it, but oddly excited about trying it.
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Woow this is exqactlz i was looking for thanks
borijess said:
Have you guys noticed with wireless charging the phone is still warm after reaching 100 percent.
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Did you finally get and does it work well as advertised?
I opened a separate thread some time ago and people advised to use 30-80 range. I also have Accubattery and follow this principle religiously. However, no matter how I do it, the power charge cycle goes up like crazy. My phone is 2 weeks old and the cycle is now 15 whilst it says the average life is 400-500 cycles. I never bothered about this with my previous phones but don't know what to do with this one. I want it to serve for at least 2 years before I upgrade.
Hi everyone
I'd like to have the charging limited to 90%. For that I need to know what the config file is where charging can be disabled.
I have tried /sys/class/qcom-battery/restrict_chg but it doesn't seem to be working.
Does anybody know whether I can make this work and how?
Don't bother, since this phone has a buggy pmic.
Aw crud...
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/input_suspend seems to be working in principle.
Why do you want to limit the charge to 90%? Do you think it will make your battery last longer? Because it's not, I have been discharging to around 15% 5-6 days a week (while at work) and then leaving the phone charging over night (7+ hours), and first time I felt my battery is getting weaker was after like year and a half maybe more, so just don't bother, Lithium batteries are much more durable to a point that limiting your charge and not charging to full and similar nonsense will likely make your battery last even less.
Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
Yea, year and a half before I started to see signs of the battery weakening, I changed it after almost 3 year in my old Mi A2 Lite, before I bought Poco, I think three years is fine, don't you?
I have never owned a phone that went more than two years of adequate charge. The first was mi Mi Max 3 which I charged every other day and never more than 90%. Didn't notice any lost charge after more than 3 years.
Also once the app works, it doesn't cost me anything to do so why wouldn't I?
Try using acc and acc settings
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Try using acc and acc settings
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I have found the file that works. At least so far. Haven't noted any defective chip as someone else suggested... well aside from it not charging very quickly but I mean, I charge over night... I don't care if it doesn't quick charge... should help longevity as well.
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Wow... a whole year and a half...
Yeah, I think you and I have very different strategies in terms of mobile phones.
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My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
thorin0815 said:
My oldest phone, which is still in use, has been almost completely discharged and then fully charged since 2016 without there being a noticeable reduction in battery capacity.
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That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
Marco2G said:
That's so very good for you. See, I've been cancer free for over 40 years now... want me to go tell that to someone dying of cancer to make them feel inferior?
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The comparison is very poor, because in the worst case you buy a new battery for €15.