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Wondering which battery to get of them two, I've read some users saying that the 3500M battery is actually smaller than the 3000M which would indicitate it has less capacity? They've also said that it doesn't live up to the rated capacity in terms of usage time. I'm leaning toward the 3000M battery as it seems to have a better reputation. I also don't really want to spend more than ~$15 on the new battery.
Also, which one has a better feel to it with the cover?
I was bought this one http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...rtmentProductId/42252157/shopGroupId/46205854
from renomierung distributer (know from many pasts ordering), and im very,very satisfacted.
Regards
Any picture of a battery that size in the sgs?
Hvala Miro. It's a bit expensive though.
I was thinking of one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3000mAh-Exte...Accessories&hash=item5add807a84#ht_4261wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3500M-EXTEND...Accessories&hash=item4aa5e7292d#ht_1727wt_905
none of those batteries really offer the advertized capacities, probably the 3500 will give you a few hours more than the 3000 but expect them to be like 75% or less of their real rated capacity.
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
au_stevo said:
Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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My battery is like on yor first link for ebay.
I can tell you:
With original SGS battery i have 1 day to 1,5 day battery life (im relativ middle to stronger user,GPRS,GPS,3G,etc. But with this 3000 mAh battery i have last about 4-5 days. SGS is doble dicker from original,but i have no care if i go on shorter travel without charger
Pozdrav
Best regards
are the batteries sold for I9000 usable for samsung vibrant?
Pickup the quality: Mugen I couldn't submit a link since im new
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Some people have said in other threads that the 3500m one is actually smaller than the 3000, which should mean that the actual capacity is lower?
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I purchased both from e-cell in UK. They look pretty much identical, the 3500 one has label only on one side and it's a little thinner. But they are higher capacity than the stock one, about twice the capacity.
Doing my usual test while communting on metro and train, reading news with screen at minimum brightness, with the standard battery I usually lose 20% in 1 hour, with the big battery I lose 10%.
The back cover is a little too big and there's a space between the battery and the cover, so it moves, I had to fill the gap with a piece of paper.
@vcespon
You have a 3000mAh and a 3500mAh battery?
Do you have now more experience in the differences?
Is here a owner of a 3000mAh Yoobao Accu?
It seems Yoobao is a "quality label"?!?
A comparison of budget 3500mAh and budget 3000mAh and Yoobao 3000mAh would very interesting.
Specifically, the running time for the same use (eg video loop).
The Yoobao battery costs three times more as the cheapest noname battery.
€7, the chepeast 3500mAh battery and €21 for the 3000mAh Yoobao.
Is the desk stand the only difference?
Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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Ah ok. Just noticed that I missed the whole accesories section indeed .
And the i9003 (1650mAh) battery will also fit.
Denizzje said:
Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
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If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
chandramohan1986 said:
If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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That's why I use external wall charger
I never charge high capacity batteries while plugged to the device
T_Frain_K said:
Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
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From what I've seen, most cheap, higher-capacity batteries are, simply not higher capacity. Someone over in the Captivate forum actually did some quantitative measurements. The results were that none of the cheap, 3rd party batteries came close to their listed capacity. Only the OEM batteries were close to their rated capacity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906611
Edit: The doubles-sized, extended batteries will certainly have more capacity than the OEM stock battery, but it's not likely to have anywhere near the capacity that it says it does. Oh, and, as far as I know, these tests were not done on any of the premium 3rd party batteries - just the cheap ones.
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
Chillaholic said:
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
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That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
Denizzje said:
That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743
Its mentioned in the first post.
You have to order by phone.
Here are all the partner shops in europe.
https://www.aswo.com/internet/ICM99_ENG.NSF/(html)/LinkFrame_4?OpenDocument
it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
senotrius said:
it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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The 1650 mAh battery you are talking about is the one for the galaxy SL? Does it fit into the sgs properly?
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The ones using 1650 mah batteries can you tell me that you realized longer battery life?
Since it is only 10 percent higher than the stock battery it should have only 10 percent more battery life. So the extension of battery life for me it is about 2 - 2.5 more hours MAXIMUM and that does not make sense to me.
It should be 10% but for me it feels more like 20-30%.
Maby I loaded my 1500mAh battery wrong,
but it seems to me to be a bigger different between both.
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
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Well the evo 3d battery is 3.8v and ours is 3.7v so that might mess up your phone.
And my extended battery not only is a tiny bit bigger but it also weighs more and gives me about 15 hrs a day.
If you can get the type of battery efficiency I get on a daily basis with normal usage then maybe I might believe you.
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all phones have built in voltage control circuitry. 0.1v is not going to harm anything.
that is how phones can handle a stock battery going from ~4v to ~3v while it discharges.
3.8v vs 3.7v is just the nominal voltage of the battery. the voltage of the evo3d is higher since it's capacity is higher.
Well, sorry to rain on your PSA but I was running stock battery (and quite happy with the performance of the stock btw), I opted to try the Anker battery. With little to no expectations, I was really looking for an extra battery, so spending 12usd wasn't bad compared to my Seidio extended battery for my N1 that cost double of the Anker.
I was simply expecting stock performance and got a bit more than expected. Is it magic? Who the heck cares, it works!
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Well, sorry to rain on your PSA but I was running stock battery (and quite happy with the performance of the stock btw), I opted to try the Anker battery. With little to no expectations, I was really looking for an extra battery, so spending 12usd wasn't bad compared to my Seidio extended battery for my N1 that cost double of the Anker.
I was simply expecting stock performance and got a bit more than expected. Is it magic? Who the heck cares, it works!
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if it works for you, more power to you
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if it works for you, more power to you
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That's the point, no?
1000th POST LOL
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That's the point, no?
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haha yes, pun was intended. I'm curious: do you still have your stock battery?
Could you compare thickness with the Anker? if it is thicker, there's where your extra capacity is coming from.
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haha yes, pun was intended. I'm curious: do you still have your stock battery?
Could you compare thickness with the Anker? if it is thicker, there's where your extra capacity is coming from.
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Yes the Anker battery is a smidge thicker, not much to the naked eye. As posted in another thread, it's slightly heavier as well. And that could account for a bit more capacity.
The Anker battery without a doubt lasts alot longer than the stock battery!
I don't think all these stuff matter as long as user experience/reviews with the batteries prove positive.
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vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
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And what about a pentiline or normal AA battery that would fit in a mp3 player or kids toy or even a dildo? All same sizes and yet thy exists in different capacities?
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he's absolutely right. theres a very large capacity differential between standard batteries of varying internal composition. easiest reference, test out a lithium ion battery versus a nickel cadmium battery (both come in AA), which are exactly the same size, and tell me theres no more capacity in one than the other.
Electrical capacitance, as we have seen throughout history has nothing to do with size, so the OP is arguing against the progression of physics. 50 years ago, a battery capable of powering a sensation would have been as big as a book, and yet they used that "magic" you were saying didnt exist to "cram more mAH" into a smaller battery.
Size means very little. Internal construction and quality mean everything. I have seen D cell batteries that are really a AA inside a D cell case. Perhaps the HTC battery is built the same? I dont know, nor do I intend to find out.
If you drain the battery at a constant rate (no, not with your phone, but with more accurate equipment), then you can easily figure its capacity. There is no arguing with that...The aftermarket batteries have been found to have MUCH GREATER capacity than the HTC battery. That is confirmed, 100%.
Matt
However it may be my ChiChiTec battery permits me to go a whole day without charging whereas the stock did not. That's good enough for me.
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Stock battery is really crappy... I'm still waiting for a decent review about the aftermarket battery's
vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
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I got the seidio 1900mAh EVO battery and it does weigh a bit more but worth the extra juice on heavy usage days especially with right rom
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vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
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you are an idiot.. no offence intended but you havent read any of the threads on here about all the batteries availaible.
QUALITY OF THE CELLS MEANS EVERYTHING!
crap cells wont hold high amounts of energy, they wont hold as stable a voltage under load and wost of all heat up more than a quality cell.
my anker battery does weigh 2g more than the stock battery and is 0.2mm thicker but that amount of extra mass gets me 4-5 hours more use over the stock battery and thats to do with the quality of the cells more than the exta weight and size.
my stock battery heats up a lot and fast under load and causes the whole phone to get stupidly hot. Anker battery DOES NOT do this at all and only the lower part of my phone gets hot.
some cheap batteries are crap, but there are plenty of good ones too.
if you still think same size = same capacity then ask yourself this, why are some batteries worse than the stock one yet still the same size? if some can be worse then some can be better .... Right???
heres a whole website of information about batteries you can disagree with if you like.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Here is a size comparision between the stock battery (top) and the chichitec (bottom):
You guys are missing the point of the op. This is not about comparing 2 different battery chemistries. We are comparing an OEM Li-ion battery to an after market one.
The only evidence of an aftermarket battery ever being superior ( in the case that they are the same size and weight) has only been via anecdotal perception of the buyer.
If an aftermarket battery is larger/heaver, there's a chance it could out perform the OEM unit, but when tested using capacity measuring test equipment, It will usually test well below the label mAh rating, unlike the OEM cell which is usually within 3% of its labeled mAh rating.
That's not to say these batteries are not a good value for the money, they are. $12 for a replacement battery is a really good value, especially if its at least as good as the OEM unit.
The real snake oil is in the high capacity multi cell batteries, where the manufacturers have been caught (by me) to have intentionally over stated the mAh rating.
If you get better phone life from your 1700-1950mAh aftermarket battery, that's great! But I doubt you're getting more than 80% of the capacity that's stamped on the label.
I have not seen any independent tests of Sensation batteries yet, no less one that shows an after market battery delivering its labeled capacity.
After reading the many positive reviews of the Anker 1900mAh battery, I just ordered one. Lets see how it measures.
Hey I have gt i9500 rooted with custom rom. (i have never done overclock and never touched voltage settings)
I have just found awesome battery for out galaxy s4 3450mah on ebay.
however, im afraid it may be exploded or something
someone more expert than me can tell me if its ok buying this kind of battery?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Golden-..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item20e03794d0
These kind of batteries are not what they promise. You can buy them on every Chinese warehouse site.
They won't explode, but they wont offer 3450 mAh by a long shot.
I Think they will provide around 2200 mAh. Look around for reviews on proper batteries from bigger companies.
Zerolemon has the highest tested capacity battery 3000 mAh ( real life 2900mAh) as far as I know.
If the battery looks to good to be true, it probably is.
Yeah I would NOT trust that. 95% of unbranded Japanese cell phone batteries do not match up to their advertised capacity. As the person above said, look into Zerolemon's batteries. I personally do not own one myself yet but it's the closest you will get to getting a true 3000mAh capacity. If it was possible to get more than 3000mAh into a battery that will fit with the original stock battery cover, most of XDA would know about it. Do not trust the 3450mAh.
Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.
mgbotoe said:
Anyone found a descent (great) extended battery that still goes with our phone ? They got a few for the note 3 that I wish were also made for our phone!
I have seen a few on ebay but I find them hard trusting.
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How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.
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How is an extended battery going to fit under the original battery cover? Greater capacity means greater size.
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Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete
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Anything beyond stock is extended. Companies made them plenty for the note 3. I don't care for 10k or 5k for that matter. But I found one...mod can close / delete
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which one did u get?
Any of those batteries claiming to be high capacity yet OEM sized are probably dangerous (Google cheap lithium batteries) and nowhere near the capacity they claim. If you want to risk your expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap nasty battery that could explode go for it.....
Yes, what Joey2o11 said is correct. A battery that's the same size as the factory battery will have the same, or less, mah as the factory battery. Any company claiming their factory-sized battery has more mah is simply lying so they'll sell more batteries. You can read where many different unaffiliated companies test batteries from manufacturers and 3rd parties, and you'll see the results are always the same. Bottom line - if you want more mah, you'll need a bigger battery.
Also, you made a thread asking the community to share info about batteries. So when you found one to purchase you should have shared your findings with the community, not asked a moderator to close the thread. XDA is all about sharing information with the community, not keeping it to yourself...
Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.
twe69 said:
Not 100% true as I remember the higher capacity battery for my old Sony Xperia phone lasted longer than the oem battery even though it was stock size.
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So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?
Joey2o11 said:
So no actual solid evidence then other than you seem to remember it lasted longer... If it was possible to make batteries with a higher capacity for the same size do you not think the likes of Sony, Samsung etc would have done it themselves in the first place?
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I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.
twe69 said:
I had the Sony Xperia Play mobile phone, the extended battery was quoted to be only 200mAh higher but made a difference. 6 months on the standard battery versus 6 months on the extended battery I could tell the difference. It was also talked about here on xda when it was the 'in' phone.
I do know that most batteries quoted are not genuinely that much higher or better than stock with the same dimensions but I can say that the statement was incorrect in my opinion from my experience for that one occasion.
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That phone was never the "in" phone and anyone who thinks any cheap chinese third party battery is gonna compare to a stock oem battery is delusional. They are expensive for a reason, even after you trim off the excessive markup.
That sums things up nicely
If there was a way for extra mAh to be crammed into the same space, Samsung would've done it themselves. And even if there was a way and some other company made such batteries, the production costs would be through the roof, so the retail price would reflect that.
The best you can expect from a cheap battery is to be on par with the OEM (although unlikely), but it's simply unrealistic to expect it to be better.