Hi friends,
I am a bit unsure. At the moment I'm on OOS Open Beta 3. Now that the official Pie based OOS was released, I am wondering if I stay on Open Beta or change to official OOS.
What are you doing? Tell me. What are the cons and the pros?
Thank you!
btw.: If somewhere there's already a poll for this, then please tell me.
Open Beta = faster updates, less stable (at least this last declared from oneplus but i've noticed no difference)
Official = slower updates, more stable (but as i said up it's the same)
For updates i mean you get first the latest features that oneplus give us
RealZac said:
Hi friends,
I am a bit unsure. At the moment I'm on OOS Open Beta 3. Now that the official Pie based OOS was released, I am wondering if I stay on Open Beta or change to official OOS.
What are you doing? Tell me. What are the cons and the pros?
Thank you!
btw.: If somewhere there's already a poll for this, then please tell me.
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I'm pretty happy with open beta 3, so I'm sticking to the beta channel. I'm sure there will be a new beta soon, probably won't be a new stable build for a while.
Official here. That way I know magisk modules, kernels and mods will work.
xxBrun0xx said:
I'm pretty happy with open beta 3, so I'm sticking to the beta channel. I'm sure there will be a new beta soon, probably won't be a new stable build for a while.
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That's why I think I will stay on beta channel, too.
My understanding is once stable comes out, beta stops updating. I hope I'm wrong but we won't know til next week.
MrSteelX said:
My understanding is once stable comes out, beta stops updating. I hope I'm wrong but we won't know til next week.
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If you release program then there should be no updates, goes to your logic then
more_than_hater said:
If you release program then there should be no updates, goes to your logic then
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Incorrect statement!
The change log for official build is taken from Open Beta 2 change log.
Means that the open Beta 3 was released after the official build was certified.
That means that Open Beta will be parallel channel with Official builds.
MrSteelX said:
My understanding is once stable comes out, beta stops updating. I hope I'm wrong but we won't know til next week.
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No, there will still be open beta builds that introduce new features etc.
Funk wizard said 4-8 weeks each stable update, and either 1-2 or 2-4 I don't remember for open beta ota
I didn't expect that the most of you use the stable OOS. I mean: We're on XDA here!
Wow. Thank you!
Well, this is my 1st OnePlus device and i m super happy to be on Beta channel, i was little upset when i saw the stable release came so quick after 3 weeks of beta started. But when i saw the stable release has less feature than the OB3 I decided to stay on Beta channel.
But, yeah I m little comfused, whats new we will be getting on the beta channel after the stable pie has released?
And i want to know 1 thing, will our device always be uncertified till we are on Beta channel?
gitzz said:
Well, this is my 1st OnePlus device and i m super happy to be on Beta channel, i was little upset when i saw the stable release came so quick after 3 weeks of beta started. But when i saw the stable release has less feature than the OB3 I decided to stay on Beta channel.
But, yeah I m little comfused, whats new we will be getting on the beta channel after the stable pie has released?
And i want to know 1 thing, will our device always be uncertified till we are on Beta channel?
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No this is start of pie beta so some bugs & this type of things expected OnePlus make it certified in upcoming beta the stable build come so early cause people want it so bad everyday on OnePlus forums new thread open for pie till now first it was for OnePlus 6 now it for 5/5t 3/3t.
alimuhammadx said:
No this is start of pie beta so some bugs & this type of things expected OnePlus make it certified in upcoming beta the stable build come so early cause people want it so bad everyday on OnePlus forums new thread open for pie till now first it was for OnePlus 6 now it for 5/5t 3/3t.
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Ok, thanks for the info.
I want to know 1 more thing
Will there be no way to shift to stable without loosing data.
Like I stay on OB3 and there is stable beta 3 months later on, still the Stable package considered as downgrade?
whizeguy said:
Official here. That way I know magisk modules, kernels and mods will work.
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I prefer official also, but tarp and magisk do not work on Pie 9 official for me...
Probably going to wait a month until they work out most of the bugs. Still running 8.1.0, OOS 5.1.11
Why fix something that ain't broke?
Glsoto said:
I prefer official also, but tarp and magisk do not work on Pie 9 official for me...
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Not sure what tarp is, Magisk is all good here. If ur having issues use latest Uninstaller then flash magisk 17.2
gitzz said:
Ok, thanks for the info.
I want to know 1 more thing
Will there be no way to shift to stable without loosing data.
Like I stay on OB3 and there is stable beta 3 months later on, still the Stable package considered as downgrade?
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No for now because stable build is build on beta 1 & we are running on beta 3 so data loss is must if in future stable come a version up then you can go to stable without loss.
alimuhammadx said:
No for now because stable build is build on beta 1 & we are running on beta 3 so data loss is must if in future stable come a version up then you can go to stable without loss.
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If you have twrp you can flash without loss of data.. I did. I just dirty flashed it.
whizeguy said:
If you have twrp you can flash without loss of data.. I did. I just dirty flashed it.
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I don't recommend dirty flash because sometimes it starts creating issue on your device.your device working fine so good luck i face issues with my older devices so i don't recommend anyone dirty flash because if you get issues factory reset is the last option for you.
whizeguy said:
Not sure what tarp is, Magisk is all good here. If ur having issues use latest Uninstaller then flash magisk 17.2
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Sorry TWRP..
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I want to give my unused nexus 5 for a friend, but it's been almost a year since I visited these forums. I want to give him nougat if possible, but are those ROMs stable? Basically I need a stable ROM with good battery life and that's it. What would you recommend?
I recommend flashing the phone with the latest stock MM so it will receive security updates.
Stock will be the most stable.
audit13 said:
I recommend flashing the phone with the latest stock MM so it will receive security updates.
Stock will be the most stable.
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Thanks. But he doesn't really need security updates. And when I was using it, I'm sure XtraStock and XtraSmooth were really stable, no reboots and no bad stuff happenning. Also, multi window support would be cool, so what is the most stable Nougat ROM?
ashirviskas said:
Thanks. But he doesn't really need security updates. And when I was using it, I'm sure XtraStock and XtraSmooth were really stable, no reboots and no bad stuff happenning. Also, multi window support would be cool, so what is the most stable Nougat ROM?
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Try PureWhite6.0.1 Rom, it is very stable as it is based on stock rom.
I am using it since long time.
It's a Nexus, they're all stable. Some have some bugs, but I cannot consider any of these ROMs unstable, like so many of them were on my Galaxy S back in 2011. Me personally, I use Nitrogen 7.1.1, and not only is it stable, I can't even find any bugs in it.
AOSP 7.1.1 by @Santhosh M is great. Also The Fakenexus 7.1.1 is going yo get update soon i think. it was my favourite rom, but i lacked updates for last month. Right @ganachoco ?
audit13 said:
I recommend flashing the phone with the latest stock MM so it will receive security updates.
Stock will be the most stable.
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Sure? I thought the N5 won't receive any security updates any more.
The n5 won't get nougat but I thought it would receive security patches for a little while longer.
Edit: Looks like the n5 was supposed to stop getting updates three years from the date of introduction or 18 months from when it stopped being sold. Maybe the security updates have stopped?
They have.
I am also searching for a ROM for my N5. I dont want to flash again and again. Lets say I want to choose between AOSP 7.1.1 by @santhoshm and the LineageOS Rom. What are the differences? For Updates: I think the LinageOS will have an integrated Update Feature. And in the Rom by SanthoshM I will have to flash manually in TWRP each Update? And besides that, one is completely the Stock Rom and CM hat some extra features but looks ans feels nearly the same as stock. ...?
Thank you guys!
I'm on the last stable release of oxygen and I keep getting the update for pie and it keeps failing
anyone else?
Nice, but how about AOSP android P ?
Stock trash ROM from oneplus is unacceptable.
Why is it so hard for oneplus to make a normal fully functional AOSP for their device ?
and let people to choose what they prefer.
Good news!
looks like Oxygen Pie is on the way XD
Are you on beta?
Rev.X said:
I'm on the last stable release of oxygen and I keep getting the update for pie and it keeps failing
anyone else?
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Where are you located?
I second the person above...Where are you located?
OPs profile says he is from the U.S
Fake from a troll.
Fake...
Rev.X said:
I'm on the last stable release of oxygen and I keep getting the update for pie and it keeps failing
anyone else?
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False alarm :laugh: OOS P is not pushed yet
Sent from my CPH1871 using XDA Labs
I'm getting Android 9,5 almost 10.:laugh:
My OP6 just updated to Touchwiz. I now have an S-Pen.
x111 said:
Nice, but how about AOSP android P ?
Stock trash ROM from oneplus is unacceptable.
Why is it so hard for oneplus to make a normal fully functional AOSP for their device ?
and let people to choose what they prefer.
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I completely agree with you. OnePlus is on their way of fcuking Oxygen OS. Waiting for a stock AOSP rom or Pixel experience rom to flash it on my device and get rid of this ****.
that is not Oxygen OS interface(UI)
yashpatel99 said:
I completely agree with you. OnePlus is on their way of fcuking Oxygen OS. Waiting for a stock AOSP rom or Pixel experience rom to flash it on my device and get rid of this ****.
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Why didn't you just get a pixel?
I'm getting an update to OOS 5.1.11 - for real!
yep 5.1.11 started rolling out, but still not Pie, this is almost the same changelog for the last HydrogenOs
Rev.X said:
I'm on the last stable release of oxygen and I keep getting the update for pie and it keeps failing
anyone else?
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I just did the update to OOS 5.1.11 and sorry buddy but it is not Pie. It is just an update for Oreo.
yashpatel99 said:
I completely agree with you. OnePlus is on their way of fcuking Oxygen OS. Waiting for a stock AOSP rom or Pixel experience rom to flash it on my device and get rid of this ****.
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Stop crying. You bought it and I don't think OnePlus promised to you that you're gonna get AOSP...
If you change the build.prop to Pixel 2, you can receive Pixel Pie update, but you can't install, It happened to me to have this window of update because of that
So uh, after Faust's kernel died I decided to maintain it for a while since I like Nougat and Oreo is too buggy (and ugly). Got a good scolding from him after his thread was shut down so I took his advice and made a new thread.
Please be warned that I don't update it that often due to real life commitments ( and Linux+CAF updates have slowed down) so if you're impatient then this kernel probably isn't for you. It's stable enough anyway so I don't expect complaints at any rate.
Kernel has been updated to Shinsoo_r8_Final.
As some of you may have known, Linux kernel 3.18.y has now reached the last update at 3.18.140. So, as promised, I am now stopping support for the Nougat kernel and will focus on Android 9 instead.
There's nothing much for me to say except it's been a good ride seeing Nougat through the end, and it's now time to move on to better things.
Changes:
Updated to Linux 3.18.140
Updated anykernel2
Upstreamed F2FS
Some fixes and updates from kerneltoast
Under-the-hood changes
Download link (Click me)
Features:
KCAL
F2FS
Maple scheduler
Updated CAF tags + Linux upstream
Wakelock blocker
Adreno idler
Things I won't do:
EAS (sources are blasted out the furry poophole of a miserable street rat)
OC
UC
UV
Acknowledgements:
XDA
Linux
Faust
The random devs around here
My laptop
My OCD
XDA:DevDB Information
Project Fatalpulse, Kernel for the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
Contributors
Watanabe_You
Source Code: https://github.com/ArbitraryFox/Shinsoo_Pie/tree/Shinsoo
Kernel Special Features: It's a kernel.
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: R8
Stable Release Date: 2019-05-20
Created 2018-09-24
Last Updated 2019-05-20
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with nougat rom are u using right now ?
khangcobra said:
with nougat rom are u using right now ?
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Latest AEX by adesh15: https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=206413
i tried it yesterday and i noticed that the default setting of this kernel is making some cores offline even while in gaming and making my gaming laggy
Make one for MIUI 9 / 10 pls ?
Mr.PureNoEnergy said:
i tried it yesterday and i noticed that the default setting of this kernel is making some cores offline even while in gaming and making my gaming laggy
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Oh that, try this and use spectrum app's gaming profile. It'll make 6 CPUs online and turn on adrenoboost.
QuinNExotic said:
Make one for MIUI 9 / 10 pls
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Can't make a kernel for a ROM I don't use. (or have a working source for that matter)
What bugs have you encountered in oreo that made you stay with nougat?
seijuro572 said:
What bugs have you encountered in oreo that made you stay with nougat?
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Magisk won't work properly, it's constantly losing root or the manager won't hide itself. Then there are random processes that will pop up errors and the devs seem to ignore or take too long to fix these.
Basically less commitments, and now they're raving about pie when oreo is still buggy. These kinda ethics make me sick so I'm staying here.
Watanabe_You said:
Magisk won't work properly, it's constantly losing root or the manager won't hide itself. Then there are random processes that will pop up errors and the devs seem to ignore or take too long to fix these.
Basically less commitments, and now they're raving about pie when oreo is still buggy. These kinda ethics make me sick so I'm staying here.
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Sidenote: It ain't that bad. I'm pretty sure you've been using wrong or not proper Magisk / Rom / Kernel. I've tried 6 or more Oreo roms but after I got my hands on Magisk 16.0 vcustom version since then I've encountered zero problems or bugs. I'm using Lineage 15.1 latest Oreo rom with Magisk 16.0 vcustom and random kernel for months now (I change my kernel almost daily to test battery and performance [ Mainly Kud Kernel, Electra Blue, Franco Kernel, Englezos and Stormguard]). No bugs, no crashes, no freezes or any functional errors. I'm no Android developer but if I managed to do this I'm pretty sure you could do if you wanted to. What I'm trying to point out is that you did not choose Nougat because of the instability of Oreo but because you felt more comfortable with it than the newer Android thus didn't put much effort to negate the side effects of a poorly optimized Magisk.zip or ROM. Which are not Oreo's fault. Oreo is stable as hell. The badly managed system modifications that tamper with it will make the system instable, naturally. Either way thank you for maintaining this kernel. When there wasn't out any official/stable Oreo roms I loved to use Faust. Kudos.
You tell us the Oreo's ROM's is buggy, but you use very old unofficial build. Your ROM, doesn't have most of newest changes for Nougat from AEX Team, and security patches from Google...
Please flash latest Unofficial build by piskor, or latest Official build, test it, and come back to this thread aftet test's...
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greenys' said:
Sidenote: It ain't that bad. I'm pretty sure you've been using wrong or not proper Magisk / Rom / Kernel. I've tried 6 or more Oreo roms but after I got my hands on Magisk 16.0 vcustom version since then I've encountered zero problems or bugs. I'm using Lineage 15.1 latest Oreo rom with Magisk 16.0 vcustom and random kernel for months now (I change my kernel almost daily to test battery and performance [ Mainly Kud Kernel, Electra Blue, Franco Kernel, Englezos and Stormguard]). No bugs, no crashes, no freezes or any functional errors. I'm no Android developer but if I managed to do this I'm pretty sure you could do if you wanted to. What I'm trying to point out is that you did not choose Nougat because of the instability of Oreo but because you felt more comfortable with it than the newer Android thus didn't put much effort to negate the side effects of a poorly optimized Magisk.zip or ROM. Which are not Oreo's fault. Oreo is stable as hell. The badly managed system modifications that tamper with it will make the system instable, naturally. Either way thank you for maintaining this kernel. When there wasn't out any official/stable Oreo roms I loved to use Faust. Kudos.
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Some parts I can agree with, the last time I tried Magisk was the beta and stable before v17 came along so it might be the case. But bottom line still stands that I encountered problems and the solutions didn't seem to apply at that time.
This was a month ago, I'd have wait for a few more before I have the opportunity to retry them again.
bykumza said:
You tell us the Oreo's ROM's is buggy, but you use very old unofficial build. Your ROM, doesn't have most of newest changes for Nougat from AEX Team, and security patches from Google...
Please flash latest Unofficial build by piskor, or latest Official build, test it, and come back to this thread aftet test's...
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Continuing on from up there, I'm well aware of that. I've tried piskor's once, didn't pan out well. I'd retry them again after a few batches of updates though, can't flash often since I'm on work call at any time.
Watanabe_You said:
Oh that, try this and use spectrum app's gaming profile. It'll make 6 CPUs online and turn on adrenoboost.
Can't make a kernel for a ROM I don't use. (or have a working source for that matter)
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oh i see. i will try it again next time when i flash nougat aosp coz im using miui right now. keep it up
greenys' said:
Sidenote: It ain't that bad. I'm pretty sure you've been using wrong or not proper Magisk / Rom / Kernel. I've tried 6 or more Oreo roms but after I got my hands on Magisk 16.0 vcustom version since then I've encountered zero problems or bugs. I'm using Lineage 15.1 latest Oreo rom with Magisk 16.0 vcustom and random kernel for months now (I change my kernel almost daily to test battery and performance [ Mainly Kud Kernel, Electra Blue, Franco Kernel, Englezos and Stormguard]). No bugs, no crashes, no freezes or any functional errors. I'm no Android developer but if I managed to do this I'm pretty sure you could do if you wanted to. What I'm trying to point out is that you did not choose Nougat because of the instability of Oreo but because you felt more comfortable with it than the newer Android thus didn't put much effort to negate the side effects of a poorly optimized Magisk.zip or ROM. Which are not Oreo's fault. Oreo is stable as hell. The badly managed system modifications that tamper with it will make the system instable, naturally. Either way thank you for maintaining this kernel. When there wasn't out any official/stable Oreo roms I loved to use Faust. Kudos.
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What's the best kernel you've tried so far in terms of performance/ui fluidity/ux without compromising much on battery too?
seijuro572 said:
What's the best kernel you've tried so far in terms of performance/ui fluidity/ux without compromising much on battery too?
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Y'know... I'm pretty sure you couldn't have asked me a harder question. As I said I change kernel according to my mood. Almost. I could write an essay about each of these kernels and we still wouldn't have gotten any closer to a clean solution/answer so... Let's say Electra Blue holds the palm.
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Watanabe_You said:
Some parts I can agree with, the last time I tried Magisk was the beta and stable before v17 came along so it might be the case. But bottom line still stands that I encountered problems and the solutions didn't seem to apply at that time..
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As I said I've been testing almost each an every Oreo Rom & Kernel but I found approximately zero bugs. I'm confident that it's because I always wiped my whole device before a new ROM flash except for Micro SD and used that specific Magisk 16 vcustom that is extremely stable with Oreo roms. I use this version even today. I'd highly recommend you to give another chance to Oreo and try full wipe/Lineage OS+Magisk 16 vcustom+Electra Blue kernel for massive stability. But I'd not want to talk you out of developing this kernel. These are just my experiences and those are yours.
greenys' said:
Y'know... I'm pretty sure you couldn't have asked me a harder question. As I said I change kernel according to my mood. Almost. I could write an essay about each of these kernels and we still wouldn't have gotten any closer to a clean solution/answer so... Let's say Electra Blue holds the palm.
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As I said I've been testing almost each an every Oreo Rom & Kernel but I found approximately zero bugs. I'm confident that it's because I always wiped my whole device before a new ROM flash except for Micro SD and used that specific Magisk 16 vcustom that is extremely stable with Oreo roms. I use this version even today. I'd highly recommend you to give another chance to Oreo and try full wipe/Lineage OS+Magisk 16 vcustom+Electra Blue kernel for massive stability. But I'd not want to talk you out of developing this kernel. These are just my experiences and those are yours.
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I use v17.3 magisk it works very well and no bugs so far
Good job OP. This kernel and Lilblinx's Advanced LineageOS rom is a match made in heaven for me. Yeah I too don't like Oreo or Pie yet so I'm sticking with Nougat. Don't mind the "y u no try oreo/pie" people. Keep up the good work.
seijuro572 said:
I use v17.3 magisk it works very well and no bugs so far
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Is it stable or beta? I don't dare to use beta. You know what they say. If it works you don't want to fix it
No OC/UC/UV/Oreo/Pie
Next release: No kernel
Faust kernel was best in nougat days. now on pie. hope it will come to pie too
Hi all,
Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere (I'm obviously not searching for the right thing!) but wondered if users on Q beta 6 will receive an official OTA with the full Android 10 release, or whether we'll need to go back to Pie first? I can't be bothered to reset everything
I'm guessing the final Android 10 will be an official OTA once released
We've had an OTA from last beta to official release last year (and for Oreo's beta program it was like that as well iirc), so yes. Anything else worrying you that we could ease?
JujuYuki said:
We've had an OTA from last beta to official release last year (and for Oreo's beta program it was like that as well iirc), so yes. Anything else worrying you that we could ease?
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Nope, that sounds very promising! Cheers
Yes, always an OTA update to turn beta to official. Sometimes just less than 100MB.
If im in 10.0.6 then im jump to beta 15. Then OP release 10.0.7 so can i jump back?
quyn157 said:
If im in 10.0.6 then im jump to beta 15. Then OP release 10.0.7 so can i jump back?
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Will yes as long as the security update is newer. When moving from beta to newer stable it'll delete your data but can be done.
@soka said:
Will yes as long as the security update is newer. When moving from beta to newer stable it'll delete your data but can be done.
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Actually if you get the whole OS release and do a loves upgrade it will not wipe your data.
You can go from stable to beta and back as long as the version is newer AND you use a local upgrade.