Is there a camera mod allowing an instant switch, while recording video, between 30fps normal speed, then temporarily 240fps slow mo and back to normal, 30/60fps? I was watching water fowl by the river today and having that possibility would make some great videos. Those cormorants and ducks flying low over the water surface are funny birds to watch and I was thinking that a video would make it even more funny: to let the bird approach at normal speed, switch to 240fps for a few seconds to make them appear in the video like suspended in the air and then quickly 'send them away' at the normal speed again.
First of all, you asking this in the wrong place because things like this need to be in the Questions section. 2nd, have you even tried the slo-motion setting in the camera app? Because you can record up to 1 minute and then you can pick the part which you want to use the slo motion effect on and the rest will play on normal speed.
RiTCHiE007 said:
have you even tried the slo-motion setting in the camera app? Because you can record up to 1 minute and then you can pick the part which you want to use the slo motion effect on and the rest will play on normal speed.
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I wasn't asking about video editing, I was thinking about some sort of a button on the screen to make an instant speed change, seamless, you know I can't make the duck to stop or slow down when it's flying in real life or have another 'take' like in staged scenes with hired actors.
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I wasn't asking about video editing, I was thinking about some sort of a button on the screen to make an instant speed change, seamless, you know I can't make the duck to stop or slow down when it's flying in real life or have another 'take' like in staged scenes with hired actors.
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Do you even understand how fps works? Of course there isn't just a button to switch on the fly because that would bug out the video when playing it back. I also dont get why you just dont use the slo-motion function where you can have full control on the speed and after the convert it will playback just fine
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Do you even understand how fps works? Of course there isn't just a button to switch on the fly because that would bug out the video when playing it back. I also dont get why you just dont use the slo-motion function where you can have full control on the speed and after the convert it will playback just fine
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Well, take it easy... I think such a 'switch button' will happen some day.
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Well, take it easy... I think such a 'switch button' will happen some day.
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I Highly doubt it that it will ever happen but who know and maybe you will get lucky but its more complicated then you think and real life use is minimal
RiTCHiE007 said:
I Highly doubt it that it will ever happen but who know and maybe you will get lucky but its more complicated then you think and real life use is minimal
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That was my whole point: to see if it has already happened.
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Is there a camera mod allowing an instant switch, while recording video, between 30fps normal speed, then temporarily 240fps slow mo and back to normal, 30/60fps? I was watching water fowl by the river today and having that possibility would make some great videos. Those cormorants and ducks flying low over the water surface are funny birds to watch and I was thinking that a video would make it even more funny: to let the bird approach at normal speed, switch to 240fps for a few seconds to make them appear in the video like suspended in the air and then quickly 'send them away' at the normal speed again.
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The original slow-mo recording sorta does this automatically, but well... it records more FPS at all times. Besides, I don't think it's possible to do what you're asking simply because recording in slow mo requires a lot more light.
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The original slow-mo recording sorta does this automatically, but well... it records more FPS at all times. Besides, I don't think it's possible to do what you're asking simply because recording in slow mo requires a lot more light.
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So, it would need better hardware(some sort of variable aperture) plus, even more processing power and Android could do it. One of the original concepts for a practical Android applications, before telephony, was a photo camera, then they figured: hey, we can put some radios in it, set up relay towers around and call it cellular.
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So, it would need better hardware(some sort of variable aperture) plus, even more processing power and Android could do it. One of the original concepts for a practical Android applications, before telephony, was a photo camera, then they figured: hey, we can put some radios in it, set up relay towers around and call it cellular.
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Again, what you want wont happen and like i said a the other person who replied in this topic.... its already kinda there with the slo-motion function! It records everything on 240/480 and then after you done recording you can pick your part to slow down and then it converts the rest to 30fps.
The feature you want is dynamic fps switching but this wont happen in a long time if ever.
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I haven't found anyone asking but is is possible to record slow motion video with sound?
i don't see the point why not because if you play in normal speed the sound should be "real" and when playing in slow motion one of those funny ones when you slow down a movie.
why was sound disabled in slow mo? any way to get it back with a modified camera app?
greganka said:
when playing in slow motion one of those funny ones when you slow down a movie.
why was sound disabled in slow mo?
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Like when you hear a movie character going "Ooooohhhhh nooooooo" in slow motion? I think they rig the sound in a movie to isolate that. If you were to do it in a "real" video, you would hear every sound in the background stretched out in "slow motion", and it would be a garbled mess.
Or maybe there is that much more data being captured for a short period of "real time" that they just leave the sound out to allow the file to be smaller.
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Like when you hear a movie character going "Ooooohhhhh nooooooo" in slow motion? I think they rig the sound in a movie to isolate that. If you were to do it in a "real" video, you would hear every sound in the background stretched out in "slow motion", and it would be a garbled mess.
Or maybe there is that much more data being captured for a short period of "real time" that they just leave the sound out to allow the file to be smaller.
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Yeah slow motion sound can sound pretty crappy and choppy, so my guess would be they didn't want to put any post-processing in to make the slow-mo sound sound smooth.
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greganka said:
I haven't found anyone asking but is is possible to record slow motion video with sound?
i don't see the point why not because if you play in normal speed the sound should be "real" and when playing in slow motion one of those funny ones when you slow down a movie.
why was sound disabled in slow mo? any way to get it back with a modified camera app?
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Thanks for Posting this thread.
Slow Motion with sound is highly requested, but please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/slow-motion-phones-device-how-to-imo-t2998500
I cannot seem to make this work. I choose HD 60fps in the video camera options and yet when I play the video back it is not slow motion. Is anyone else having this issue?
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I cannot seem to make this work. I choose HD 60fps in the video camera options and yet when I play the video back it is not slow motion. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Is it playing back at 60fps?
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I wondered that too. But. When you go to the camera application, the one it shipped with, then press the video camera icon to switch it to video mode, on the bottom left a slide out toolbar is revealed. if the icon that looks like film negative is pressed, I get four options: normal video,video mms,slow motion, and time lapse. On pressing the slow motion button, "HD 60fps" is shown at the top left of the screen. When I press the record button, and play the resultant video back on the phone, It plays in real time. I copied the file to my computer and it played back on my computer; it plays in real time. Right clicking the file and then >properties>details showed 60fps. When I record in the "time lapse" mode, the resulting video plays as it should, fast, the clouds or what-have-you roll by. I called Motorola today, spent half an hour, talked to two customer service reps. Nothing. The second one went and got their "hands on Photon Q" He didn't even have a "slow motion" icon in the place I described. I then asked him if the firmware was updated on the phone. It was not. I have "77.8.10.XT897.Sprint.en.US" which is the recent update I believe. Would someone mind just trying this slow motion feature out and telling me whether is works for my piece of mind? Thanks!
Just checked this, an apparently when you record a video with 60fps mode, you then have the option to adjust the playback speed in the lower left corner (landscape orientation) from 1x to 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8. This option is missing on normal videos. Haven't tested yet how it translates off the phone on youtube or such. Maybe setting the playback speed sticks in the file?
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Wow! you are observant!
I did not notice the x factor in bottom left! I tapped it, changed the speed, exported the file to dropbox, played it back on my computer and it was in slow motion. Is this documented and i totally missed it? Even the Motorola folk were confounded...
****s awesome, I'm gonna have some sweet ass gifs for 4chan.
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****s awesome, I'm gonna have some sweet ass gifs for 4chan.
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That made me lol
Umm, I was mistaken
The video is apparently taken in 60p. It plays back in 60p which makes it real-time. The Photon can play it back at 30 which makes it 1/2 speed, and smooth. Exported, a player (VLC etc) wants to play it back at 60fps = realtime. As far as i can tell, you need to change the playback speed with an editing program to have it play back at another speed (say 30p) in a normal player. Hope this helps ...
Hey there,
it's really ridiculous. I'm either blind or disappointed on the play store and I really hope you can help me out. Until now I was driving with Camera MX that can take videos and pictures and has something called live shot, so I won't miss great moments. Unfortunately, it does not take continuous shots in full quality, instead it records a video and let allow me to select the frames I want to export as images.
This sucks in term of quality. I'm looking for an app that takes real shots. I rather want high quality with lesser shots per seconds, however most apps target for speed and decrease quality. Another big thing is I want to record videos with it, too. And this is the moment were every burst shotter fails.
I'd like to have aperture, ISO value, and exposure time settings for better night photos, too. Half of the apps did not even adjust brightness on my LGG4 (CM13), but none of them fulfilled my expectations.
I really hope anybody can help me out with that. Thank you!
For anybody who came here for the same reason, I found this website: https://softwarerecs.stackexchange....ith-shutter-mode-easy-manual-config-and-video
At the end I decided to go for OpenCamera, because A Better Camera seems not to work on CM.
OK, now I feel like a newb but this is my first Pixel device and the Google camera seems simple enough but I can't find how to set my video framerate to 1080p 60fps. I have it on 1080p and the only options I can find are on the top bar with color temp and flash and all it gives me is Auto and 30fps. Auto seems to go anywhere between 120 and 30 fps, I can't figure out the logic behind how it chooses. I really just want to lock it to 60fps for 1080p. Can someone help me out?
Turn off video image stabilization?
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jamgam said:
Turn off video image stabilization?
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I turned off IS and am still not seeing it, I tried 720p too and nothing but auto and 30fps. Open Camera and Filmic both give me 60fps.
I'm thinking anything over 30 fps is "slow motion" only. Still looking around myself b/c I'd love the 240 fps for videoing my golf swing
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I'm thinking anything over 30 fps is "slow motion" only. Still looking around myself b/c I'd love the 240 fps for videoing my golf swing
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The Pixel 2 camera has 240 in slow motion.
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Woah. This is a near deal breaker here. I can't seem to find 60fps on my $850 phone.
Update I found the place where you set the framerate, but unlike the Pixel 2 (which shows 30 and 60), the Pixel 3 only shows Auto or 30. W. T. F. This "auto" icon is located in the lower left when in video mode.
For what it's worth, I've gotten near the proper framerate with 3rd party apps. Both Open Camera (free) and Filmic Pro (paid) hit 59.667 on 60fps mode. The proper framerate is 59.94 (60,000/1001). Filmic Pro can do an exact even 60fps too if you force the framerate. I may try to gen some answers from Google directly if I don't figure this out over the weekend.
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For what it's worth, I've gotten near the proper framerate with 3rd party apps. Both Open Camera (free) and Filmic Pro (paid) hit 59.667 on 60fps mode. The proper framerate is 59.94 (60,000/1001). Filmic Pro can do an exact even 60fps too if you force the framerate. I may try to gen some answers from Google directly if I don't figure this out over the weekend.
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I tried open Camera, and it looks like 30fps when I force 60fps. It just says about 30.095, Min 22.222 and max 43.103 in Media Info. This is fail.
Can't find it myself! help
Was wondering the same thing. Selecting info on a recorded video doesn't show framerate either.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
Automatic FPS Switching
First, a new option to automatically switch FPS during video recording has been added. According to a Product Manager that we spoke to at the event, people have trouble deciding what the best framerate is before recording a video. This new feature lets the Google Camera app decide what framerate to record at – either 30 or 60 fps – depending on what’s on screen. The feature can even switch framerates in the middle of a recording. It doesn’t work with 4K videos, though.
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bartolo5 said:
Can't find it myself! help
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Was wondering the same thing. Selecting info on a recorded video doesn't show framerate either.
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Hold the phone horizontal and select video mode. On the lower left corner you will see a little icon "A". Touch this icon and you will see "Auto" or "30fps".
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
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Great, so 30fps is working as intended on an $850 phone. Thanks for finding this gem. Glad I don't have to wait 6 months to a year for this quote from Google to find out it essentially will never be fixed. Hopefully they don't regress on the Pixel 2, because this isn't a improvement in my book. How about Auto, 24, 30, 50, 60 option on an $850 phone?
This is not acceptable.
I want to be able to lock it to 60fps, not to leave Google device the frame rate for me.
Guys, we need to send feedbacks via the Camera app and try to involve the media (@madebygoogle on Twitter).
That's the only thing we can do to hope they'll release an update enabling 60fps selection.
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This is not acceptable.
I want to be able to lock it to 60fps, not to leave Google device the frame rate for me.
Guys, we need to send feedbacks via the Camera app and try to involve the media (@madebygoogle on Twitter).
That's the only thing we can do to hope they'll release an update enabling 60fps selection.
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I just confirmed on their support chat that there is no option for 60fps, like we didn't already figure that out. They suggested going to 'settings -> about phone -> send feedback about this device' and sending feedback that way. I am already posting what I can on social media as well. Wish we could get this in the front page of xda.
I just used Open Cam set to 60fps and the Google Cam on auto to record the same scene and I must admit that they look identical. I cannot see the difference with my naked eye.
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I just used Open Cam set to 60fps and the Google Cam on auto to record the same scene and I must admit that they look identical. I cannot see the difference with my naked eye.
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This is exactly my observation. Which means, this could be a limit of the new hardware and/or part of the Visual Core stuff which might be a harder thing to fix. We shall see how Google responds.
I think it will be "working as intended" or the hardware is limited to auto, because (insert some sort of white wash excuse). I would prefer darker video of 60 fps over brighter 30fps variable frame rate hogwash.
So today at my son's baseball game I used open Cam locked in at 60fps and goggle at 1080 auto and the open Cam video looks choppy and looks like it skipped frames. The Google Cam video looks very smooth like 60fps does. So I'm gonna say that Google Cam does a dang good job of chosing the best fps.
Video recording is an afterthought on the Pixel series. Stabilization is top tier, but everything else (image quality, audio quality, etc) takes a back seat. I'm actually not upset since I rarely ever record videos, and when I do, they are short clips at home that have ZERO production value. I'd be willing to be 95% of consumers are the same way.
Heck, have you noticed how every amateur video that goes viral on the news is shot in portrait mode and not landscape?! #PetPeve
Just wondering if there's any way I can get an astrophotography time lapse greater than 1 second? I would love to have 60 seconds, but I know it would probably take 4 hours or something.
Just wondering if this is possible or there's any third party apps that might be able to do this (take a longer exposure than the 4 minutes that astrophotography takes)?
I don't think it is possible, the astro time-lapse is made up from the images used to and then stacked for the astro image itself so you would end up with shed loads of images as well.
Have you tried just using the normal time-lapse option in the video settings?
Exactly, take a normal night video and then slow it down with editing software.
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Exactly, take a normal night video and then slow it down with editing software.
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The dude is talking about astrophotography and long exposure shots for a reason. What will a "night video" do good? And timelapse is not slowing down the video. lmao
That is my mistake, I totally read his post wrong.
Thing is the astro time laps is made up of the individual shots taken when Astrophotography mode is active so those individual image have been taken at f1.85, if you just did a normal time lapse using the main lens the video will still be at f1.85 and with a bit of post processing it should work.
The other way around it is to just take a night mode photo every 30 seconds for 2 hours using a timer and a Bluetooth remote.
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Thing is the astro time laps is made up of the individual shots taken when Astrophotography mode is active so those individual image have been taken at f1.85, if you just did a normal time lapse using the main lens the video will still be at f1.85 and with a bit of post processing it should work.
The other way around it is to just take a night mode photo every 30 seconds for 2 hours using a timer and a Bluetooth remote.
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You're talking about Aperture that is FIXED and completely irrelevant in this case. It's not like you have a variable aperture on the lens so you can adjust it.
What matters in his case is the shutter speed and the exposure time.
And no, normal timelapse WON'T work because the shutter speed will be low (fast) and the phone will try to compensate by pushing the ISO high. You'll end up with very dark scenes and TONS of noise.
And what makes Astro mode very important is the FRAME STACKING. Frame stacking reduces the overall noise and increases the "quality" of the image.
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Just wondering if there's any way I can get an astrophotography time lapse greater than 1 second? I would love to have 60 seconds, but I know it would probably take 4 hours or something.
Just wondering if this is possible or there's any third party apps that might be able to do this (take a longer exposure than the 4 minutes that astrophotography takes)?
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Not with stock camera.
You can try MotionCam Pro for that. It has a timelapse option where you can set your exposure time even to 15 seconds.
MotionCam is mainly for RAW video recording, but you can do photos and time-lapses. The output is absolutely GREAT. You're working with a RAW VIDEO basically and the quality is not comparable to ANY other app.
I had one Astro timelapse from it but I can't seem to find it now. It's sh**y weather outside now so can't do even a short one. I could do just a daylight one so you can see what quality I'm talking about here.
Uploaded a screenshot of the viewfinder. As you can see on the SS, you can adjust the ISO and shutter speed (among many other things) and do a timelapse.
This is basically taking RAW shots that you can later post process with various editing software like, Davinci Resolve, Adobe Premiere, Vegas, etc...
What you get is a video quality on the level of a DSLR and BETTER because there is no post-processing involved on the phone, it's basically RAW DNG images taken (sequence) that you can export (render) into a video at your QUALITY choice with YOUR post-processing involved.
Here is one sample I shot at and rendered to 4k60 (no color grading, just stock output).
Keep in mind that this is YOUTUBE, the quality of the original video is FAR better.
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You're talking about Aperture that is FIXED and completely irrelevant in this case. It's not like you have a variable aperture on the lens so you can adjust it.
What matters in his case is the shutter speed and the exposure time.
And no, normal timelapse WON'T work because the shutter speed will be low (fast) and the phone will try to compensate by pushing the ISO high. You'll end up with very dark scenes and TONS of noise.
And what makes Astro mode very important is the FRAME STACKING. Frame stacking reduces the overall noise and increases the "quality" of the image.
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I know the aperture is fixed that's why i said it should work given the astrophotography mode time lapse is made up from the 16 images taken when the mode is active and not once the images have been stacked in to a single image. Given the way you talk you of all people should appreciate just how fast f1.85 is, not a single one of my Canon L lenses is that fast or even comes anywhere close to it.
The OP has nothing to lose by giving it a go before recommending extra software and shooting raw (it is raw BTW if we are getting picky, it isn't an acronym for anything).
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I know the aperture is fixed that's why i said it should work given the astrophotography mode time lapse is made up from the 16 images taken when the mode is active and not once the images have been stacked in to a single image. Given the way you talk you of all people should appreciate just how fast f1.85 is, not a single one of my Canon L lenses is that fast or even comes anywhere close to it.
The OP has nothing to lose by giving it a go before recommending extra software and shooting raw (it is raw BTW if we are getting picky, it isn't an acronym for anything).
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Where did I say ANYTHING against the fixed aperture of F1.85? I just said that since it's fixed, it's not relevant to the "settings" he uses since he CAN'T change the aperture value anyway.
It's not about "losing" anything, it's about the technical part of understanding that your recommendation won't work because it doesn't use long exposure shutter speeds or frame stacking.
By NOT using frame stacking, the noise will be horrible and there is little much you can do with post-processing without killing completely the "details" on the photo by suppressing both luma and chroma noise.
Another thing is that regular timelapse doesn't push long exposures...It's just not meant to be used for "astro", that's all.
Erm ok fella but how do you think this was all done before Google and its wonderful computational photography came along?
My point about the aperture is it is very fast so it being fixed is not irrelevant at all given it is the only chance of this even working, the OP may have tried it at 0.5x or 5x where the apertures are much slower, the OP has absolutely nothing to lose by giving it a go, it might be crap, you might end up with only the brightest objects in the sky, you might end up with a noisy mush and yet it might be good fun who knows.
Sadly there is always one person that comes along and stomps on the parade because they know best though isn't there?
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Erm ok fella but how do you think this was all done before Google and its wonderful computational photography came along?
My point about the aperture is it is very fast so it being fixed is not irrelevant at all given it is the only chance of this even working, the OP may have tried it at 0.5x or 5x where the apertures are much slower, the OP has absolutely nothing to lose by giving it a go, it might be crap, you might end up with only the brightest objects in the sky, you might end up with a noisy mush and yet it might be good fun who knows.
Sadly there is always one person that comes along and stomps on the parade because they know best though isn't there?
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It was done in a way that results were not even close to what we have today. Why use "outdated" methods when we have these VERY capable devices?
The app I suggested is great and has exactly what is he looking for.
Your logic of "How did we do this before XY time" is equal to "Let's just ride horses instead of cars because that's how we did it before". lmao