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Hi all!
When I bought my Gear 2 Neo to use with my HTC One M8, I knew it was not officially supported, but I read some encouraging posts here on XDA, so I decided to give it a go. So far, my overall experience has been completely dreadful:
Battery Life! When I saw 30% per hour drain on my Gear 2 (with not too much of "display on" time), I thought I've got a defective device. However, things came immediately back to normal when I disconnected the Gear from the phone. Did anyone else have such experience? Solved, issue with the specific custom ROM.
Using in conjunction with Bluetooth earpiece is a complete nonsense. I don't want to receive calls on the Gear when I have the earpiece connected to the phone. But guess what, you can't have them connected at the same time! WTF?
Where are the apps? All pre- and post-release materials suggested Gear 2 comes with plenty of useful apps, but where are they? I'm particularly interested in Runtastic, but, according to their Facebook page, their Gear 2-compatible app hasn't been released yet, and no ETA so far. Runtastic claims Samsung didn't ask if their app was available before putting its name on the press release. WTF?
No alarm functionality on the watch itself without a need in the phone, and non-Samsung phone alarm doesn't get propagated to the Gear.
I'd really appreciate if other Samsung and non-Samsung phone users could share their experiences with regards to the areas above.
Thanks!
mpogr said:
Hi all!
When I bought my Gear 2 Neo to use with my HTC One M8, I knew it was not officially supported, but I read some encouraging posts here on XDA, so I decided to give it a go. So far, my overall experience has been completely dreadful:
Battery Life! When I saw 30% per hour drain on my Gear 2 (with not too much of "display on" time), I thought I've got a defective device. However, things came immediately back to normal when I disconnected the Gear from the phone. Did anyone else have such experience?
Using in conjunction with Bluetooth earpiece is a complete nonsense. I don't want to receive calls on the Gear when I have the earpiece connected to the phone. But guess what, you can't have them connected at the same time! WTF?
Where are the apps? All pre- and post-release materials suggested Gear 2 comes with plenty of useful apps, but where are they? I'm particularly interested in Runtastic, but, according to their Facebook page, their Gear 2-compatible app hasn't been released yet, and no ETA so far. Runtastic claims Samsung didn't ask if their app was available before putting its name on the press release. WTF?
No alarm functionality on the watch itself without a need in the phone, and non-Samsung phone alarm doesn't get propagated to the Gear.
I'd really appreciate if other Samsung and non-Samsung phone users could share their experiences with regards to the areas above.
Thanks!
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Wow that's a lot. Let's see if I can come up with some answers..
1. I hear that battery drain is a known bug when connected to the HTC one. Not sure why it happens but it's been reported for mostly that device.
2. I'm pretty sure in order to use the Bluetooth earpiece with the Gear you need to connect the gear to your phone, go into Settings on your Gear 2, Go into Bluetooth, and connect it there so instead of having both attached to the phone, you have it Phone>Gear>Bluetooth (IE NOT Bluetooth>Phone<Gear|)
3. Samsung Apps store is not available on NON Samsung devices.
4. This is true and many people are looking for a fix. Nothing can be changed right now.
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Wow that's a lot. Let's see if I can come up with some answers..
1. I hear that battery drain is a known bug when connected to the HTC one. Not sure why it happens but it's been reported for mostly that device.
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Strange indeed. Could be related to the Sense flavour of BT stack. I have a spare Google device (Galaxy Nexus), will try the Gear with it to see if the battery drain issue is cured.
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2. I'm pretty sure in order to use the Bluetooth earpiece with the Gear you need to connect the gear to your phone, go into Settings on your Gear 2, Go into Bluetooth, and connect it there so instead of having both attached to the phone, you have it Phone>Gear>Bluetooth (IE NOT Bluetooth>Phone<Gear|)
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According to the process described here, the audio device needs to be paired with the phone and not the Gear, while the Gear is somehow able to make the phone switch between the phone audio coming through it to the earpiece. There is also this video describing how it works from the user perspective.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way with my HTC One M8. It looks like it uses ONLY the "Phone Audio" profile while connected to the Gear, which effectively disables any other device relying on the same profile (e.g. the earpiece) to connect to the phone. If, nevertheless, you force the phone to connect to the earpiece, the Gear gets disconnected. I suspect, on Samsung devices, a different BT protocol (probably BLE) is used for communicating to the Gear, so it can stay connected to the phone while the "Phone Audio" is taken by another device. This could also explain the power drain above, as BLE is supposed to be much more energy efficient. The question is, of course, how to make HTC One to use it (BLE is obviously supported by the device).
It is possible to connect my earpiece to the Gear, but only as media device (my earpiece supports this profile as well). In that case it can be used for listening to music played on the Gear. But it doesn't help in the phone call scenario. In any case, the "transfer to earpiece" operation described in both tutorials (you can see the corresponding icon on the right side of the Gear screen in the video above) is not available, no matter if the earpiece is paired to the phone or paired/connected to the Gear directly (the icon is greyed out).
Again, I'll try to put a custom BLE-enabled ROM on my Galaxy Nexus (standard ROMs don't enable BLE on that device, despite the fact the hardware is present) to see if it behaves any differently.
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3. Samsung Apps store is not available on NON Samsung devices.
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This is true, but there are good people around who can make them available for outsiders like us... The problem is Runtastic app for Gear 2 or Fit (not to be confused with Gear 1) is not available yet, according to Runtastic themselves, and no ETA so far. This is despite Samsung press releases. Had I known this before buying my Gear, I would have given it second thought...
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4. This is true and many people are looking for a fix. Nothing can be changed right now.
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This is particularly annoying. What I really don't understand is why any other app notifications do get to the Gear, but alarms (even from 3rd party apps) don't. I'm completely baffled by that!
I have my gear connected to my HTC m7 and I got three days of battery out of a single charge
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I have my gear connected to my HTC m7 and I got three days of battery out of a single charge
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Is that w/the GEAR2/NEO or,w/the original GALAXY GEAR?
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Is that w/the GEAR2/NEO or,w/the original GALAXY GEAR?
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gear 2 neo
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gear 2 neo
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THX,that's encouraging to hear. :good:
One thing I've noticed w/my M8 & GEAR FIT:
If I'm not using the FIT (leave @ home etc...., out of range), the battery life takes a little bit of a hit. Otherwise, yesterday for example, battery life was stellar, still @ 50% after 18 hrs of total phone on-time.
Apparently, the FIT MANAGER app cannot be force closed, only disabled, so, I'll just do that when not using the FIT.
As for the GEAR MANAGER (for GEAR/GEAR2/NEO) it can be force closed.
So,I'm remaining optimistic regarding battery life once my GEAR2 arrives, especially since such is a YMMV, not only w/this discussion, but battery life in general.
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THX,that's encouraging to hear. :good:
One thing I've noticed w/my M8 & GEAR FIT:
If I'm not using the FIT (leave @ home etc...., out of range), the battery life takes a little bit of a hit. Otherwise, yesterday for example, battery life was stellar, still @ 50% after 18 hrs of total phone on-time.
Apparently, the FIT MANAGER app cannot be force closed, only disabled, so, I'll just do that when not using the FIT.
As for the GEAR MANAGER (for GEAR/GEAR2/NEO) it can be force closed.
So,I'm remaining optimistic regarding battery life once my GEAR2 arrives, especially since such is a YMMV, not only w/this discussion, but battery life in general.
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I was quite surprised and satisfied with it as well!
I downloaded the sdk and was able to view the log of the gear and I can see there are a lot of errors for s health and other samsung services so if official support comes through from samsung, id imagine battery life will get better.
OK, reading all the replies, it is apparent nobody else has the same kind of dreadful battery life. So it must be the custom M8 ROM I'm using (Insert Coin). I'm going to reflash a different one (will try Android Revolution HD, as this one is supposed to be as close as possible to stock) and see how it behaves.
I did try flashing a BLE-supporting ROM to my old Galaxy Nexus, but it couldn't connect to the Gear. The Gear Manager was stuck forever while attempting to connect.
OK, with Android Revolution HD 5.0 for HTC One M8 the battery life is MUCH better, I think it'll stretch to 2-3 days the way it's going now. So one annoyance is solved.
However, the others are still pending resolution. The one I'm particularly annoyed by is the issue with Bluetooth earpiece. I just can't use the Gear if I have to answer the phone on it or on the phone, as I've been using Bluetooth earpieces for the last 12 years (since they appeared on the market more or less) and don't see myself changing it just because of this Gear stupidity. I'm investigating possible solutions (e.g. using Tasker or similar apps). Will post results here.
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
have anyone try the gear 2 with xpeira z1 or z2
iread in some website that the z ultra is work
but ineed the z1 or z2
can someone try it
bluetooth switching
mpogr said:
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
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hi may i know which tasker application did u use to resolve this?
thanks
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dericion said:
hi may i know which tasker application did u use to resolve this?
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btw i m using xperia z ultra
mpogr said:
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
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Could you please do a step-by-step guide on this mate? Just like me, there are many of us non Sammy users who are facing the same dilemma. Cheers.
HTC M8 & Gear2
HTC ONE M8 and Gear2 neo
flyguye said:
Could you please do a step-by-step guide on this mate? Just like me, there are many of us non Sammy users who are facing the same dilemma. Cheers.
HTC M8 & Gear2
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So does anyone have a doc'd process and prerequisites on how to make these two devices even work. I have seen countless youtube videos with people walking through what the thing does and even paired to a htc one m8. I have done all the side loading of the APK's etc. Staging stuff where they suggested and so on. Still coming up with it not working. There is some magic that I am missing some where.
so far I have done:
Installed the Stubpak.apk one by one. Then installed Gear Manager, The phone see's that gear2 then pops up a Parsing Error and goes into the gear manager app pairing screen for ever. Nothing happens after that.
If anyone can shed some light that would be great.
Thanks in Advance.
how do you do it?
mpogr said:
Another update, just found what seems to be a perfect way around the Bluetooth earpiece problem. A combination of Tasker and Secure Settings allows me to switch from Gear to my earpiece on incoming or outgoing call and then back to Gear when the call is finished. Seems to be working very smoothly! At least now I can wear the Gear throughout my workday and handle phone calls normally.
Looking for resolving other outstanding issues, the next most pressing one is alarm notifications.
Hoping to get working Runtastic when the company releases the app.
Last, having all these health functions (sleep tracker/pedometer/HR) and not being able to use them on the phone is pretty annoying. Hoping to get S Health eventually working on non-Samsung phones...
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Hi I'm new to tasker just wondered what the steps were to make it do this phase thanks so much
I tested on HTC One X running CM 11. Battery drain is like 40-50% in 6 hours.
fibs said:
I tested on HTC One X running CM 11. Battery drain is like 40-50% in 6 hours.
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Have a look at this thread.
matthot69 said:
Hi I'm new to tasker just wondered what the steps were to make it do this phase thanks so much
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Have a look at this thread.
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Have a look at this thread.
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Hmm I thought your "solution" was a different custom ROM? Even if I sync an account with few (10) contacts it's the same issue for me...
dlog_system only shows Power Manager messages all day e.g.
06-04 13:05:36.359 303 303 I POWER_MANAGER: core.c: default_trans(1381) > S_LCDOFF -> S_SLEEP : check fail
Hello All,
I'm trying to decide which smartwatch I want to buy and I'm torn between samsung gear s2 and huawei watch.
I think, I already watched almost all of tests /reviews but none of them had answers for my questions related to samsung gear s2. Please help me with them ,so I could finally made my decision
1) Notifications - no one never tell/show how the notification is working. As assume that when I receive any notification, watch will turn on and vibrate will be on. But what happen when I miss it?
I heard that there is some "orange" notification? How it looks like ? Can we see it in ambient mode?
Is there any "you go XX notification" counter or its more like you have new notification scroll the dial to see how much and from what apps?
I came back from garmin vivosmart band where once it receive notification it show it on screen, then goes black but when I wake it up it show mail icon with number of unread notifications.
2) Ambient mode - I didn't see it on person in samsung gear s2. On Huawei Watch its look sharp and very detailed but on pictures on net ambient mode in gear s2 looks less sharp and limited. Not downgraded "ambient mode" like moto360 but I get a feeling that is less detailed. Is that tue or ambient mode is the same sharp/crisp like normal watchface but in black/white mode?
3) Ambient mode #2 - I like that on huawei watch ambient mode is very detailed and can stay always on. I read that there is potential issue with samsung that after some time, while still wearing watch on hand it will turn black, even if there is always on ambient mode enabled. Is that true ? Thsi is a major sells point because I want to have it always on when I have it on my wrist.
4) Endurance - Most of you have this watch for a long time now. Is there are any problem with battery, screen burn in ect on it? Again my vivosmart have oled screen issue that start to show black pixels after 5-9 months ( depending on the usage) and this is now a known hardware problem that happen on all the devices. So I would know if there are "known" hardware issues that could pop-up after a while or not.
Thanks in advance for your help.
wiilczek said:
Hello All,
I'm trying to decide which smartwatch I want to buy and I'm torn between samsung gear s2 and huawei watch. HUAWEI IS OK BUT TOO THICK FOR ME. I LIKE THE FEEL OF THE GEAR. PLUS BATTERY LIFE IS ALOT WORSE ACCORDING TO FORUMS. tHAT'S A SHOW STOPPER FOR ME.
I think, I already watched almost all of tests /reviews but none of them had answers for my questions related to samsung gear s2. Please help me with them ,so I could finally made my decision
1) Notifications - no one never tell/show how the notification is working. As assume that when I receive any notification, watch will turn on and vibrate will be on. But what happen when I miss it?
I heard that there is some "orange" notification? How it looks like ? Can we see it in ambient mode? NOTIFICATIONS WORK JUST LIKE YOU DESCRIBE - VIBRATE AND AN NOTICE ON THE WATCH FOR AFEW SECONDS. IF YOU MISS IT, YOU MISS IT. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SWIPE RIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE YOUR NOTIFICATION. THE ORANGE DOT THING ISN'T IN THE US YET, IF YOU ARE HERE.
Is there any "you go XX notification" counter or its more like you have new notification scroll the dial to see how much and from what apps? NOT ON A SCREEN WHERE YOU CAN SEE (AT LEAST THAT I HAVE FOUND) BUT THERE ARE WATCH FACES YOU CAN GET THAT DO THAT. JUST NOT STOCK.
I came back from garmin vivosmart band where once it receive notification it show it on screen, then goes black but when I wake it up it show mail icon with number of unread notifications.
2) Ambient mode - I didn't see it on person in samsung gear s2. On Huawei Watch its look sharp and very detailed but on pictures on net ambient mode in gear s2 looks less sharp and limited. Not downgraded "ambient mode" like moto360 but I get a feeling that is less detailed. Is that tue or ambient mode is the same sharp/crisp like normal watchface but in black/white mode? THERE ISN'T AN AMBIENT MODE AS YOU DESCRIBE. THERE IS AN ALWAYS ON MODE WITH LESS INFO BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE SIMPLY DIM THEIR SCREENS. IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE WITH ME.
3) Ambient mode #2 - I like that on huawei watch ambient mode is very detailed and can stay always on. I read that there is potential issue with samsung that after some time, while still wearing watch on hand it will turn black, even if there is always on ambient mode enabled. Is that true ? Thsi is a major sells point because I want to have it always on when I have it on my wrist. THERE IS AN ALWAY ON MODE BUT IT EATS UP BATTERY AND THE DETAIL ISN'T THE SAME.
4) Endurance - Most of you have this watch for a long time now. Is there are any problem with battery, screen burn in ect on it? Again my vivosmart have oled screen issue that start to show black pixels after 5-9 months ( depending on the usage) and this is now a known hardware problem that happen on all the devices. So I would know if there are "known" hardware issues that could pop-up after a while or not. HAD MINE FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS. NO SCREEN BURN, BATTERY IS FINE BECAUSE I'M NOT CALCULATING THE NATIONAL DEBT EVERY 5 MINS AND I DON'T USE THINGS I DON'T NEED. I GET ABOUT 2 DAYS.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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wiilczek said:
Hello All,
I'm trying to decide which smartwatch I want to buy and I'm torn between samsung gear s2 and huawei watch.
I think, I already watched almost all of tests /reviews but none of them had answers for my questions related to samsung gear s2. Please help me with them ,so I could finally made my decision
1) Notifications - no one never tell/show how the notification is working. As assume that when I receive any notification, watch will turn on and vibrate will be on. But what happen when I miss it?
I heard that there is some "orange" notification? How it looks like ? Can we see it in ambient mode?
Is there any "you go XX notification" counter or its more like you have new notification scroll the dial to see how much and from what apps?
I came back from garmin vivosmart band where once it receive notification it show it on screen, then goes black but when I wake it up it show mail icon with number of unread notifications.
2) Ambient mode - I didn't see it on person in samsung gear s2. On Huawei Watch its look sharp and very detailed but on pictures on net ambient mode in gear s2 looks less sharp and limited. Not downgraded "ambient mode" like moto360 but I get a feeling that is less detailed. Is that tue or ambient mode is the same sharp/crisp like normal watchface but in black/white mode?
3) Ambient mode #2 - I like that on huawei watch ambient mode is very detailed and can stay always on. I read that there is potential issue with samsung that after some time, while still wearing watch on hand it will turn black, even if there is always on ambient mode enabled. Is that true ? Thsi is a major sells point because I want to have it always on when I have it on my wrist.
4) Endurance - Most of you have this watch for a long time now. Is there are any problem with battery, screen burn in ect on it? Again my vivosmart have oled screen issue that start to show black pixels after 5-9 months ( depending on the usage) and this is now a known hardware problem that happen on all the devices. So I would know if there are "known" hardware issues that could pop-up after a while or not.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'll try to answer you. I've had my Classic since December 26.
If the watch is on your wrist, it will vibrate when a Notification arrives. Different apps handle and send notifications differently. GoogleApp will only show last one. SMS will only show last one. (But, the Message App will let you scroll through all of them). TypeApp will show last one, but will also show a number of emails. If you click on that you can scroll through emails. There is a separate "queue" of email notifcations for each email account I have synched.
Each app has it's own notification queue. You can access them by scrolling wheel to the left. Or, swiping to the right. You can get rid of the notification by swiping to the top.
In the version in the US, with the current firmware, we don't have the orange notification. The version is Korea seems to have it, but I don't know if the version rolling out in Europe does.
The ambient mode watch face is a separate watch face that the watch designer designs. It doesn't have to look like the normal watch face. The intent is to be a low power mode only white pixels used. Mine never turns off when the watch is on the wrist, but some have reported issues with theirs going completely black. I have the setting for Always On. I also have the setting turned on for the Wake Up Gesture. This wil turn on the full watch face when you flick your wrist. Can be disconcerting in the cinema or driving at night, to have your watch turn on. Especially if you use a mostly white face like I do. (I currently use Pavilion by Liongate - mostly because it has a good ambient mode)
I've been wearing my watch every day, all day long and "it takes a licking, and still keeps ticking". I get a good 2 days on a full charge. But, most days I recharge when I sleep.
Thank you rlichtefeld and rogerperk for your kind reply !
It seems that samsung in term of functionality is the best option. However based on my experience with samsung device ( I had several smartphones) I worried that after a year, support for samsung gear s2 will be droped and the apps/firmware for "new" samsung watch will not be compatible with this model. Android wear is more "update proof" as still you can update the system on older moto360. What I geeting from review and this forum is that gear s2 is a "great device but lack of apps/support" . Well.. it would be simpler if this "companion devices" for smartphones was little bit cheaper, because at this price point its not that easy to decide.
And speaking about the price, currently after a little price drop by huawei (in Europe) I can buy huawei watch silver/black band model in the same price as samsung gear s2 classic. So its even harder to choose "best" option.
wiilczek said:
Thank you rlichtefeld and rogerperk for your kind reply !
It seems that samsung in term of functionality is the best option. However based on my experience with samsung device ( I had several smartphones) I worried that after a year, support for samsung gear s2 will be droped and the apps/firmware for "new" samsung watch will not be compatible with this model. Android wear is more "update proof" as still you can update the system on older moto360. What I geeting from review and this forum is that gear s2 is a "great device but lack of apps/support" . Well.. it would be simpler if this "companion devices" for smartphones was little bit cheaper, because at this price point its not that easy to decide.
And speaking about the price, currently after a little price drop by huawei (in Europe) I can buy huawei watch silver/black band model in the same price as samsung gear s2 classic. So its even harder to choose "best" option.
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As with anything dealing with electronics, if you wait long enough there will always be something cheaper and more powerful. However, while you wait, you don't get to use the tools/toys that you can get right now.
The S2 Classic is what I wanted in a smart watch. It is the correct size for me, and the rotating bezel works extremely well. I also wanted a watch where I could switch out the watch band.
Everyone has different wants and needs. As my grandfather used to say: "If everyone all liked the same thing, there would have been a big fight over your grandma".
Could the watch be better? Certainly. But, it is a very, very good smart watch.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
As with anything dealing with electronics, if you wait long enough there will always be something cheaper and more powerful. However, while you wait, you don't get to use the tools/toys that you can get right now.
The S2 Classic is what I wanted in a smart watch. It is the correct size for me, and the rotating bezel works extremely well. I also wanted a watch where I could switch out the watch band.
Everyone has different wants and needs. As my grandfather used to say: "If everyone all liked the same thing, there would have been a big fight over your grandma".
Could the watch be better? Certainly. But, it is a very, very good smart watch.
Rob
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Thank you again for your kind answer. You are absolutely right with waiting . I appreciate your argument , but finally I decided and bought.. huawei watch. What can I say? Samsung gear S2 is a very good smartwatch (for todays standard) but when I had an opportunity to take in both hands samsung gear s2 and huawei watch (price was not a factor because in the store they cost more/less the same), samsung feels more like sport active watch (similar to garmin watches) and huawei feels more like a classic watch.
And this is what I need. A smartwatch that replicates classic feeling, and with the great skymaster pilot watchface I'm more than happy now.
wiilczek said:
Thank you again for your kind answer. You are absolutely right with waiting . I appreciate your argument , but finally I decided and bought.. huawei watch. What can I say? Samsung gear S2 is a very good smartwatch (for todays standard) but when I had an opportunity to take in both hands samsung gear s2 and huawei watch (price was not a factor because in the store they cost more/less the same), samsung feels more like sport active watch (similar to garmin watches) and huawei feels more like a classic watch.
And this is what I need. A smartwatch that replicates classic feeling, and with the great skymaster pilot watchface I'm more than happy now.
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i actually just switched from huawei watch to gear s2. huawei watch has consistent performance issues, even after rooting. connection issues too. it also weighs a ton and looks like some kind of insane homing beacon you would attach to a walrus or something. battery life isnt the greatest either, and i found it to be erratic, despite my actual SOT or quantity of messages. some days i would get home with 65% left and some days 25%, which i found to be the stupidest of the stoop as far as features go. best feature was voice command... when it worked.
gear s2 pretty much performs the same all the time, which is pretty well. i havent had any connection issues with it either. it connects fast and stays connected (note 4 - CM13). it weighs about what a normal watch would weigh and is the perfect size. doesnt protrude from the wrist like the walrus beacon. the sensor in it is so fast that i can actually leave ambient-mode off and strictly rely on flicking my wrist to turn the screen on. huawei watch sensor was slow so i always ambient mode on. s-voice leaves something to be desired, but the functionality and battery life (which is also very consistent) are really awesome on this watch. i dont regret switching one bit.
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i actually just switched from huawei watch to gear s2. huawei watch has consistent performance issues, even after rooting. connection issues too. it also weighs a ton and looks like some kind of insane homing beacon you would attach to a walrus or something. battery life isnt the greatest either, and i found it to be erratic, despite my actual SOT or quantity of messages. some days i would get home with 65% left and some days 25%, which i found to be the stupidest of the stoop as far as features go. best feature was voice command... when it worked.
gear s2 pretty much performs the same all the time, which is pretty well. i havent had any connection issues with it either. it connects fast and stays connected (note 4 - CM13). it weighs about what a normal watch would weigh and is the perfect size. doesnt protrude from the wrist like the walrus beacon. the sensor in it is so fast that i can actually leave ambient-mode off and strictly rely on flicking my wrist to turn the screen on. huawei watch sensor was slow so i always ambient mode on. s-voice leaves something to be desired, but the functionality and battery life (which is also very consistent) are really awesome on this watch. i dont regret switching one bit.
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Thanks WaxyDargle for your comment. My shop give me 10 days back policy if I want to return huawei watch. To reply to your comment I will try to answer objectively what I thought about huawei after 2 days ( I paired it with samsung S5 with custom Rom)
Performance issues - for me I didn't accounter any but maybe its to soon to comment.
Connection issues - again I had few problems (about this later) but the connection itself was solid.
Battery - I take it to office at 7:50 AM yesterday and today at 4 PM it says " you got 5% battery". From this moment watch turn of "always on mode" and "wifi mode" and the brightness was way below minimum you can set . Still watch finally give up just after 20 PM . So first impression: battery is acceptable. During that time I receive several calls, mails, facebook notification so I can say that I use it a lot.
watch design&look - You said that it "weights a ton" but for me its very very light and I didnt see any noticible differents in weight to samsung gear s2. During a day I forget that I had it on the wrist. Regarding thickness - it doesnt look thick when you put it on a wrist.
voice command - yup. Working 2 out of 10 but when its recognize voice its working correctly. "WHEN" ...
Biggest Pros so far: Please check attachments where I put my ambient and normal mode. IT LOOKS GREAT . Its stay that way and it didn't went to black when I have it on the wrist .To add more my co-worker that was sterring at my watch for a while didnt notice that was a smartwatch unitl screen light on to show a message.
Biggest cons : Samsung vibration is just BETTER. I mean compared to huawei watch I need to use special 3rd party app on huawei just to set vibration pattern to be noticable . Now it's OK but not "Great". "Out of the box" you definitelly will miss more incoming messages in huawei than in samsung.
Android Wear has several issues : sometimes not every message will show on a watch and in current 1.4 release there is 3 seconds (!!!) delay to incoming call after it will show on the watch. Downgrading to version 1.2 will solve this issue (no delays) but some other notification will/could not show up. Overall to not get too deep into issues, after reading several post here on the XDA I menaged to (hopefully) "solve" all of them but I believe that for customer who is no technician/dont know XDA or dont have a time to solving android issues (that currently exist on android wear) this would be a major let down. If Samsung is stable in synchronizing incoming notification - I would recommend samsung/tizen for most people.
So in the end currently I still prefer huawei but it have it flaws and not everyone will like it.
wiilczek said:
Thanks WaxyDargle for your comment. My shop give me 10 days back policy if I want to return huawei watch. To reply to your comment I will try to answer objectively what I thought about huawei after 2 days ( I paired it with samsung S5 with custom Rom)
Performance issues - for me I didn't accounter any but maybe its to soon to comment.
Connection issues - again I had few problems (about this later) but the connection itself was solid.
Battery - I take it to office at 7:50 AM yesterday and today at 4 PM it says " you got 5% battery". From this moment watch turn of "always on mode" and "wifi mode" and the brightness was way below minimum you can set . Still watch finally give up just after 20 PM . So first impression: battery is acceptable. During that time I receive several calls, mails, facebook notification so I can say that I use it a lot.
watch design&look - You said that it "weights a ton" but for me its very very light and I didnt see any noticible differents in weight to samsung gear s2. During a day I forget that I had it on the wrist. Regarding thickness - it doesnt look thick when you put it on a wrist.
voice command - yup. Working 2 out of 10 but when its recognize voice its working correctly. "WHEN" ...
Biggest Pros so far: Please check attachments where I put my ambient and normal mode. IT LOOKS GREAT . Its stay that way and it didn't went to black when I have it on the wrist .To add more my co-worker that was sterring at my watch for a while didnt notice that was a smartwatch unitl screen light on to show a message.
Biggest cons : Samsung vibration is just BETTER. I mean compared to huawei watch I need to use special 3rd party app on huawei just to set vibration pattern to be noticable . Now it's OK but not "Great". "Out of the box" you definitelly will miss more incoming messages in huawei than in samsung.
Android Wear has several issues : sometimes not every message will show on a watch and in current 1.4 release there is 3 seconds (!!!) delay to incoming call after it will show on the watch. Downgrading to version 1.2 will solve this issue (no delays) but some other notification will/could not show up. Overall to not get too deep into issues, after reading several post here on the XDA I menaged to (hopefully) "solve" all of them but I believe that for customer who is no technician/dont know XDA or dont have a time to solving android issues (that currently exist on android wear) this would be a major let down. If Samsung is stable in synchronizing incoming notification - I would recommend samsung/tizen for most people.
So in the end currently I still prefer huawei but it have it flaws and not everyone will like it.
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one thing i did on the huawei that almost completely fixed the connection issue was to install android wear 1.3 on my phone. version 1.4 made those issues drastically worse.
WaxysDargle said:
one thing i did on the huawei that almost completely fixed the connection issue was to install android wear 1.3 on my phone. version 1.4 made those issues drastically worse.
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True . They massed it up in new version, but its android fault not a huawei itself - "Blame the game not the player". For now after few "extra tricks" from XDA its working ok. However If the problem will reappear in upcoming days I will consider to switch on samsung. Will see.
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True . They massed it up in new version, but its android fault not a huawei itself - "Blame the game not the player". For now after few "extra tricks" from XDA its working ok. However If the problem will reappear in upcoming days I will consider to switch on samsung. Will see.
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honestly, i am just waiting for android to get it right. im not a huge fan of samsung, and will probably just return it for an android wear later on as part of my protection plan. samsung is better right now but wont be for long
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honestly, i am just waiting for android to get it right. im not a huge fan of samsung, and will probably just return it for an android wear later on as part of my protection plan. samsung is better right now but wont be for long
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This week huawei should receive android wear 6.0.1 with speaker support. Supposedly it works better. I will post an update after this upgrade will arrive via OTA if it was worth the wait.
Hi all users,
Can someone confirm if this is a real device issue or only my device
Purchased nato-straps which has the strap under the watch and cover the sensor and also lift up the watch a bit from the skin.
Had the nato-strap some days now and it was working fine. Notifications was vibrating and phone calls had sound.
Yesterday vibrations and sound during phone calls just didn't work anymore. Happened midday out of nowhere.
Now, if i put back a different strap, which don't cover the sensor, all works perfectly.
Can som please tell me what is happening here? I can't be the only one who has noticed this. Does the watch think its not worn because of the minor liftup caused by the strap under the watch?
Feel the wear overrides this and make it work with all straps. But I really want it to work..... Just as.... Before?!
Any ideas, suggestions why this is happening would be very very helpful.
/Best regards
DuoPad said:
Hi all users,
Can someone confirm if this is a real device issue or only my device
Purchased nato-straps which has the strap under the watch and cover the sensor and also lift up the watch a bit from the skin.
Had the nato-strap some days now and it was working fine. Notifications was vibrating and phone calls had sound.
Yesterday vibrations and sound during phone calls just didn't work anymore. Happened midday out of nowhere.
Now, if i put back a different strap, which don't cover the sensor, all works perfectly.
Can som please tell me what is happening here? I can't be the only one who has noticed this. Does the watch think its not worn because of the minor liftup caused by the strap under the watch?
Feel the wear overrides this and make it work with all straps. But I really want it to work..... Just as.... Before?!
Any ideas, suggestions why this is happening would be very very helpful.
/Best regards
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Your watch most definitely thinks it is not being worn. The strap is not a "minor liftup". It will completely block the sensors not to mention making charging a complete PITA. Go to Settings --> Apps and Notifications and see if "Do not disturb when off wrist" is turned on. If so then turn it off.
My watch auto locks whenever it comes off my wrist since I have Pay setup and that requires locking. IMO the kind of strap that runs under the watch is a non-starter for this watch. It also renders the HRM useless too.
Thanks so much for the update. I think you made my day just so much better! It was turned on!?
Yes, i quickly realized that these are PITA =)
Will try if this helps.
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It worked to disable. Thanks again. You saved an angry phone call for Huawei support =)
DuoPad said:
Thanks so much for the update. I think you made my day just so much better! It was turned on!?
Yes, i quickly realized that these are PITA =)
Will try if this helps.
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It worked to disable. Thanks again. You saved an angry phone call for Huawei support =)
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Why an angry call to Huwaei support? You are clearly covering all the sensors. The watch thinks it's off your wrist and what about the heart rate monitor? Why even dream of covering that?
Ok.
Humor. A joke. In the end I would have had to contact support since I didn't realize there was a sensor. Now I know.
Don't care about heart rate. I use garmin for serious running. All running apps can't match up a real Garmin with all of the features (intervall training etc). Yes i use two watches while running (4g version)
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Anyone who owns the Gear Sport, can tell me if the vibration is good enough for waking you up, like the alarm clock?
Im about buying it, but i dont want to be disappointed with the "intensity" of the vibarion. i read some that said its weak even when put on "high", and someone replay to him that an update software somehow fixed it...
It is quite reasonable. You can easily feel it.
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It is quite reasonable. You can easily feel it.
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Did you tried it?
im looking for it, this is the only thing that stopping me from buying it.
I own both an LG G Watch R, and a gear sport. The vibration on the gear sport is a lot stronger than my LG.
Would it wake you up? That depends on how heavy you sleep I guess. I use it with the "sleep as android" app and have my watch vibrate one minute before the alarm sounds. 9 times out of 10 it wakes me up from the vibration before the alarm sounds.
I use smartwatch since the orignal LG Watch (yeah, that square one) and I got hooked with that new gadget.
Since than I owned all of those devices:
LG Watch, LG Watch R, Moto 360 1 and 2, Fossil Gen 5, Gear S3/Classic, Galaxy Watch, Galaxy Watch 3, Galaxy Watch 4, Apple Watch 3,4,5.
I mostly went with android (owned all note phones) and then I got the iPhone 11 and then 12. I used then the apple watch and it was just a blast compared to all the others.
But then I went with the Fold 2 and I couldnt go back to any other phone. I knew then that nothing will come close to the apple watch (at least softwarewise) and I went with the galaxy watch 3.
I was pretty happy with it exept for some things like sometimes it would lag and software wasnt that great. But then I had big hopes for the galaxy watch 4.
I really like the design but the battery life is just laughable, even compared to my watch 3 which would last 2 days with AOD, continious HR etc.
The Watch 4 is laggy ( or not faster than the watch 3) and the battery life is just crazy bad for me.
I can BARELY get through the day (46mm classic) and if I do ANYTHING with it you can see the battery go down by the minute.
I really wanted to love this watch. I dont know if my watch is broken or something because I seem like the online one with these problems. The new wear os sounded promising but in my experience its just the "good" old wear os with a samsung skin. Still bad battery and still lots of hiccups in performance.
And no I have never been a fanboy for any brands I just like to use the products I like the most but the apple watch sadly is not available on android and it seems like the best option is the galaxy watch 3 or 4.
I think that you have a problem... I have a battery corruption of about 3/4% hour... I can do all the day and I still have battery... I use it even to sleep...
About speed... I don't have that issue... Is fast and furious
Absolutely more faster than my galaxy 3.
Yeah somethijng not right, this 46mm classis 4 lte I have is certainly snappier than my 3 lte, and battery life is about the same as the 3 lte.
Always on display, using Pujie black watch Face, lte enabled on auto, WiFi on auto,and use it to sleep track, have about 20% after wake up and pop it on charge while I have breakfast and shower and pop it back on.
Motawa88 said:
I use smartwatch since the orignal LG Watch (yeah, that square one) and I got hooked with that new gadget.
Since than I owned all of those devices:
LG Watch, LG Watch R, Moto 360 1 and 2, Fossil Gen 5, Gear S3/Classic, Galaxy Watch, Galaxy Watch 3, Galaxy Watch 4, Apple Watch 3,4,5.
I mostly went with android (owned all note phones) and then I got the iPhone 11 and then 12. I used then the apple watch and it was just a blast compared to all the others.
But then I went with the Fold 2 and I couldnt go back to any other phone. I knew then that nothing will come close to the apple watch (at least softwarewise) and I went with the galaxy watch 3.
I was pretty happy with it exept for some things like sometimes it would lag and software wasnt that great. But then I had big hopes for the galaxy watch 4.
I really like the design but the battery life is just laughable, even compared to my watch 3 which would last 2 days with AOD, continious HR etc.
The Watch 4 is laggy ( or not faster than the watch 3) and the battery life is just crazy bad for me.
I can BARELY get through the day (46mm classic) and if I do ANYTHING with it you can see the battery go down by the minute.
I really wanted to love this watch. I dont know if my watch is broken or something because I seem like the online one with these problems. The new wear os sounded promising but in my experience its just the "good" old wear os with a samsung skin. Still bad battery and still lots of hiccups in performance.
And no I have never been a fanboy for any brands I just like to use the products I like the most but the apple watch sadly is not available on android and it seems like the best option is the galaxy watch 3 or 4.
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I agree with you, the battery life is much less than my old watch active2 (i used to charge it every other day but with the watch4 i have to do it every day)
the performances are worse too... when my alarm rings in the morning i have to wait for the screen to wake up in order to stop it ant it takes some seconds .
but i'm finally able to use google pay instead of samsung pay and i hope that the software will improve over time
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Always on display, using Pujie black watch Face
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Wow thanks for this hint. Forgot completely about Pujie black. Bought it 5 years ago and had Galaxy watches for the past 4 years or so. Just installed it. But there is no data from Samsung health yet. Any info about that?
Thanks Martin
Martin7404 said:
Wow thanks for this hint. Forgot completely about Pujie black. Bought it 5 years ago and had Galaxy watches for the past 4 years or so. Just installed it. But there is no data from Samsung health yet. Any info about that?
Thanks Martin
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You can have both Samsung health and Google fit running at the same time, what I do!
My new GW4 battery goes down with about 5%-6%/hour, so roughly 15-20hrs (this with sleep tracking on, snore detection, all notifications on, some exercise (e.g. one hour swimming) and some new apps installation though not too many - maybe 5-10 new apps installed and NO/WITHOUT all time on display.
So not too happy with battery compared to my GW3 which I may reconsider keeping.
Also I was expecting more from Wear OS, notifications on Tizen were straight out of the box, here I had to install an additional Bluetooth notifying app so that all messages (esp. for Whatsapp, Messenger etc to ensure messages and photos come through)...
So first impressions not so good (also spo2 tracking whilst sleeping not working for me even though switched on)
Will keep evaluating but was expecting more, no WOW effect at this time...
I got the watch today. First thing I did was put it on my Watch 3 charger. It says charging, then after about 20 seconds says charging paused.... I have a NEW (less than 2 months old) Z fold 2 and when trying the wireless power share, it does the same thing. This is a huge deal breaker for me.
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Yeah somethijng not right, this 46mm classis 4 lte I have is certainly snappier than my 3 lte, and battery life is about the same as the 3 lte.
Always on display, using Pujie black watch Face, lte enabled on auto, WiFi on auto,and use it to sleep track, have about 20% after wake up and pop it on charge while I have breakfast and shower and pop it back on.
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How do you use Pujie Black with the Galaxy Watch 4? I installd the app both in my phone and the watch but the phone app still says "install on watch"
daavm said:
How do you use Pujie Black with the Galaxy Watch 4? I installd the app both in my phone and the watch but the phone app still says "install on watch"
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I have no problem with PB, after installing everything i went Galaxy Wear and applied the watch face
stakoz said:
My new GW4 battery goes down with about 5%-6%/hour, so roughly 15-20hrs (this with sleep tracking on, snore detection, all notifications on, some exercise (e.g. one hour swimming) and some new apps installation though not too many - maybe 5-10 new apps installed and NO/WITHOUT all time on display.
So not too happy with battery compared to my GW3 which I may reconsider keeping.
Also I was expecting more from Wear OS, notifications on Tizen were straight out of the box, here I had to install an additional Bluetooth notifying app so that all messages (esp. for Whatsapp, Messenger etc to ensure messages and photos come through)...
So first impressions not so good (also spo2 tracking whilst sleeping not working for me even though switched on)
Will keep evaluating but was expecting more, no WOW effect at this time...
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What app did you find that allows notifications from those apps you mentioned?
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What app did you find that allows notifications from those apps you mentioned?
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Informer: messages for Wear OS - Apps on Google Play
WhatsApp voice messages, call notifications, message history, vibration patterns
play.google.com
bishop0114 said:
I got the watch today. First thing I did was put it on my Watch 3 charger. It says charging, then after about 20 seconds says charging paused.... I have a NEW (less than 2 months old) Z fold 2 and when trying the wireless power share, it does the same thing. This is a huge deal breaker for me.
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Something is wrong with your watch. Don't have any issues with my. In fact, the Watch 3 charger is exactly the same charger as the one that comes with Watch 4.
Mine (44mm) only uses ~20% overnight (8 hours) and that is with all the sensors going to continuously measure HR and SPO2. I have the Samsung Trio charger and just toss it on there prior to showering and getting dressed. Seems to work pretty well (shrug).
So with my 40mm LTE i got around 35hrs without Aod, Lte, Wifi, Gps and 10min hr - sleepmode/offline mode at night.
Now I replaced it with a 44mm LTE and I get around 40hrs with aod, gps, continuous hr, stress, etc. but LTE and Wifi off. Only on my 2nd charge though.
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Informer: messages for Wear OS - Apps on Google Play
WhatsApp voice messages, call notifications, message history, vibration patterns
play.google.com
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Btw, you don't need this, those notifications you want ARE all there. Just click more under the apps that show up in the phone app, then the drop-down above that says most recent, then click on it and select all. All there!
Yes however not All notifications pass through normally, there is no notification history, e.g. if you decide to reply to a message later, and there are no photos visible sent via WhatsApp, messenger, etc.
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Yes however not All notifications pass through normally, there is no notification history, e.g. if you decide to reply to a message later, and there are no photos visible sent via WhatsApp, messenger, etc.
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Does all the whatsap function like voice message and voice call works perfectly without any issue? Is it worth purchasing?
Anyone have any issues using the speaker on the watch? It's a hit or miss for me when it works or not either using Spotify or music I transferred via Galaxy wearable app
I've given my GW4 a good shot, but I've now gone back to my Watch 2.
The watchfaces available for the 4 are not good. Few have click-through to apps. Resetting is a chore because backup doesn't restore watchfaces or apps. But majorly the battery life is a real disappointment. I was getting 24 hours if I was lucky and not using it much for workout tracking etc.
Google Maps, Google Keep and Gpay were useful to have on my wrist but didn't outweigh the downers. I'll keep hold of the 4 and hope that software updates improve it.
Pity. I was really looking forward to Galaxy Watch 4.