4k hdr playback. Help! - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

How to know if I am playing 4k hdr. In youtube its [email protected] with lot of frame skips. I did play some downloaded 4k hdr videos using the default player and it doesn't take control of the brightness like youtube does while playing hdr,also it does not show any notification or message that the video is hdr.

SATZDAS said:
How to know if I am playing 4k hdr. In youtube its [email protected] with lot of frame skips. I did play some downloaded 4k hdr videos using the default player and it doesn't take control of the brightness like youtube does while playing hdr,also it does not show any notification or message that the video is hdr.
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Same here. Also, sometime they're lag when playing 60 fps video with X reality engine on. Hope they fix this in the in android P.

jose van gaal said:
Same here. Also, sometime they're lag when playing 60 fps video with X reality engine on. Hope they fix this in the in android P.
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Have you successfully played any hdr video outside YouTube?

SATZDAS said:
Have you successfully played any hdr video outside YouTube?
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I never do that before, but the stock video work for me.

jose van gaal said:
I never do that before, but the stock video work for me.
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But how do you know its playing on hdr.It simply plays 4k.I don't see the brightness change that happens in youtube

SATZDAS said:
But how do you know its playing on hdr.It simply plays 4k.I don't see the brightness change that happens in youtube
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When you are playing HDR video, drag the notification bar down and you can see that the grey color is lighter than usual.
But 4K 60 fps is not playing smoothly as it used to in Nougat. Hope Sony fixes it in Pie!

nirai06 said:
When you are playing HDR video, drag the notification bar down and you can see that the grey color is lighter than usual.
But 4K 60 fps is not playing smoothly as it used to in Nougat. Hope Sony fixes it in Pie!
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Bro you just solved the problem I have been looking for like forever.I wish sony included a hdr notification or a tag along with the video.Yeah I hope they fix this issues in pie, fingers crossed. And thanks a lot BTW.But one question still. It Confuses me why it does not change the brightness while playing hdr like youtube does(YouTube hdr is just horrible)

If u try to play a hdr 4k video with MX Player Pro (idk if in the normal version hdr works) it will work well and smooth

Elysiumx said:
If u try to play a hdr 4k video with MX Player Pro (idk if in the normal version hdr works) it will work well and smooth
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Yeah I have mx player pro and it supports some audio codec which is not supported by the default player.All the 4k hevc 60fps demos are working fine with both mx and default player.Only youtube sucks

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60fps YouTube on Android?

Now that YouTube supports videos at 60fps, is there an app that supports viewing at that framerate? I'd love to be able to utilize this new feature on my phone.
YouTube released it yersterday. We have to wait
vaindil said:
Now that YouTube supports videos at 60fps, is there an app that supports viewing at that framerate? I'd love to be able to utilize this new feature on my phone.
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ask yourself one all important question.. does your device support playing vids at 60fps?
simms22 said:
ask yourself one all important question.. does your device support playing vids at 60fps?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you trying to inject logic into a conversation on xda?! You should know better than that!
#stayparanoid
Pirateghost said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you trying to inject logic into a conversation on xda?! You should know better than that!
#stayparanoid
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LMFAO
simms22 said:
ask yourself one all important question.. does your device support playing vids at 60fps?
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I believe the Nexus 5 does, doesn't it? I managed to manually download a 60fps video, and the VLC app confirms that the framerate is 60fps. I noticed a distinct difference when watching that video compared to the 30fps version. Am I crazy to have noticed a difference? Does the Nexus 5 not support 60fps playback?
vaindil said:
I believe the Nexus 5 does, doesn't it? I managed to manually download a 60fps video, and the VLC app confirms that the framerate is 60fps. I noticed a distinct difference when watching that video compared to the 30fps version. Am I crazy to have noticed a difference? Does the Nexus 5 not support 60fps playback?
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FATALITY
i also notice a difference between 30 and 60fps video. does the n5 not support it?
lucasgta95 said:
FATALITY
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Awfully helpful, thank you.
This thread seems to indicate that 60fps is possible, at least in the boot animation.
Unless the refresh rate is being locked to 30Hz, hardware wise there shouldn't be anything to stop it from displaying 60 frames of video in a second. However I don't think the app has been updated to support it yet.
well, everywhere i have read, it says nexus 5 can do 30fps while playing video. now i do know that we can get 60fps in gaming. is it a hardware limitation? that i cant answer..
simms22 said:
well, everywhere i have read, it says nexus 5 can do 30fps while playing video. now i do know that we can get 60fps in gaming. is it a hardware limitation? that i cant answer..
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I think even a 2011 device can run at 60fps
Try downloading a 60fps video, watch on native or mx player and see for yourself
For those still interested. Yes the Nexus 5 can play 60fps video.
As for watching 60fps YouTube, I have finally found an app for it.
Simply install Viral Popup from the Play Store.
Open the app and open the Settings from the menu dropdown in the top-right. Enable "Dash Player".
Now back out of Settings and find a 60fps video. Select the video and once it starts playing, pause the video, then click the [Gear] button and you'll see a list of qualities. Scroll down and you should see two 720p options, choose the second one. Rewind the video and hit play.
Enjoy 60fps YouTube on Android
NOTE: Not all 60fps videos will work in the app yet. It seems 1080p 60fps videos will not load at all.
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Does this still work? I can't find the option anywhere anymore in Viral from the play store, nor in Viral from the developers Google+ page...
japzone said:
For those still interested. Yes the Nexus 5 can play 60fps video.
As for watching 60fps YouTube, I have finally found an app for it.
Simply install Viral Popup from the Play Store.
Open the app and open the Settings from the menu dropdown in the top-right. Enable "Dash Player".
Now back out of Settings and find a 60fps video. Select the video and once it starts playing, pause the video, then click the [Gear] button and you'll see a list of qualities. Scroll down and you should see two 720p options, choose the second one. Rewind the video and hit play.
Enjoy 60fps YouTube on Android
NOTE: Not all 60fps videos will work in the app yet. It seems 1080p 60fps videos will not load at all.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Yes the nexus can play 60 fps since all my videos from the note 3, note 4 and galaxy alpha play fine. YES i do record in 60 fps
Plus you should check this out, https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera

4K Video Playback with HEVC - 10bit

Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
I downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with MX player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
fartyparty said:
i downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with mx player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
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use mx player
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
kot5nik said:
I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Kot5nik, in my opinion, changing the resolution that android runs is not the proper way to go. Since XZ Premium is a device that supports 4k/HDR i shouldn't have to resort to "adb" to watch a 4k video in another app. Plus, by doing that, battery drain increases a bit, phone dialer app does not work, app switching does not show thumbnails etc.
FartyParty said:
Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
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FartyParty, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. I took screenshots of both MX and Sony apps and the look identical. Only one difference though. It seems that MX Player doest not utilize HDR. There is a noticeable difference in contrast. You can see the attachments if you want to.
Liltman said:
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
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Here is what i found from testing the device for 4K HDR videos
the device can and will play 4K H265 10bit and even HDR videos but there are things that need to be done to play perfectly
first you need to check for the containers to be mkv or mp4
second using sony app will not allow to play surround sound file like dts, ac3, AAC 5.1 or AAC 7.1
third which i think is very odd and stupid from sony is that how such a powerful device can't play mkv with AAC sound track no matter what stereo or surround.
The trick for this to use software where they can switch container without the need for converting the whole file from mkv to mp4.
Hi everyone,
I have to also agree with @Liltman and say that the MX Player does play video content in 4k however there is a very noticeable difference between the stock Sony album player and the MX player.
Sadly the Sony video player doesn't support truehd aac files so the video will play flawlessly without the sound :crying:
The MX Player on the other hand WILL play the sound but the quality of the video seems to take a small hit as it's not as vibrant as the Sony album player. This is because MX Player supports 4k but not HDR
I hope that Sony added codecs to make TrueHD sound files compatible with the Sony gallery player on Oreo but I am not very confident about that.
I would appreciate it if someone can find a way around this annoying issue. What software is @HYPER-RX referring to?
Thanks!
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
MX Player definitely does support HDR. You can tell because in HDR videos, if you try taking a screenshot, the screenshot will simply come out as black, whereas in SDR videos, you'll get a normal screenshot.
RJASSI21 said:
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
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Hi I just tried VLC and you was spot on. I can see that it actually does support HDR however I'm still having audio issues with the sound. Especially the HEVC Atmos 7.1. Do I need to download a codec pack or something?
It's a shame because the video quality is incredible!
Working perfectly
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
nirai06 said:
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
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Thanks was this on Oreo? And the sound file was it 5.1 or 7.1?

H265 Playback

so i recently purchased a Xperia XZ premium. I was really exited since i already have a massive library of 4K movies , and i get to watch them on the go. But sadly i found out the default Video player does not support H265 codec and i had no choice but to use VLC & MX player. so my problem is do i get the same level of HDR play back performance and up-scaling level with VB frame rate sync with these 3rd party players? because iv heard that the default video app has all of those options that i have pointed out.
Also please Let me know which player you use.. Thank you :angel:
But it must suppurt it becuase device can record 4k h265 by it self and can play that.
Blackghosthm said:
But it must suppurt it becuase device can record 4k h265 by it self and can play that.
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Sadly the phone is only allowing us to run 4K files at H264 codec using the OEM app
That is not true. You can play h265 hevc movies with the album app. Also mkv files.
Blackghosthm said:
But it must suppurt it becuase device can record 4k h265 by it self and can play that.
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Inerent said:
That is not true. You can play h265 hevc movies with the album app. Also mkv files.
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im not saying it cant.. but it lags like crazy.. ( stutters every frame. heck it even skip frames) fyi im on oreo ( 47.1.A.12.145)
No, it don't lags! You should check the thread download from Oreo to Nougat the back to oreo... It seems it is a problem with partition fragmentation... Or google play services... You can try to become beta for google play services, if not helps just downgrade to Nougat then update again to oreo
Inerent said:
No, it don't lags! You should check the thread download from Oreo to Nougat the back to oreo... It seems it is a problem with partition fragmentation... Or google play services... You can try to become beta for google play services, if not helps just downgrade to Nougat then update again to oreo
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Heck... so you are saying i can run 2160p 10 bit h265 HDR mkv files without a lag on default video player and the lag im getting is due to a software fragmentation? bruhhh.... sony why you do this.
 @Inerent also my man i didnt get this part of what you said "You can try to become beta for google play services" care to explain ^_^
Nope it is not software dependent, actually it is the way the file encoded causes the problem. Try to shoot a video with 4K HEVC from your camera, you can play it without lag.
As far as I know it doesn't lags in 8bit, and unless you have OLED display (XZP has IPS) you can't really tell the difference. -- No you can tell the difference but sadly this doesn't change the situation.
MX Player is the greatest one in terms of playback, but VLC is Ad-Free and open source.
Here
I can record my video at 4k in h265 and I can see it

laggy playback on youtube on HDR videos

first of all, why is it very laggy now, playing HDR videos on youtube?
plus why if im watching HDR there is no more than 1080p option? my phone is 4k HDR why doesnt it give me such options?
but my most important issue here is the first one, why is it laggy like that?
I don't see any lag on YouTube. Maybe you have stamina turn on??
raven213 said:
I don't see any lag on YouTube. Maybe you have stamina turn on??
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If you play [email protected] 60fps video, it doesnt lag at all? Smooth 60fps?
Could you try this video and report back please?
https://youtu.be/tO01J-M3g0U
madshark2009 said:
first of all, why is it very laggy now, playing HDR videos on youtube?
plus why if im watching HDR there is no more than 1080p option? my phone is 4k HDR why doesnt it give me such options?
but my most important issue here is the first one, why is it laggy like that?
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I don't have any probleme in 1080, 1440 p hdr 60 fps. Only in 4k hdr but I have a lower connexion.
Ps: I don't use youtube app, only in chrome or firefox in Web mode. Firefox is better, nothing lag
I have very small lag too, but only with hdr youtube video
I tried time ago to put on the phone some 4k hdr videos and they were smooth without any lag
So i think it's a youtube problem
I remeber 4K HDR on My Devices worked just smooth and without Problems but it started lagging one day without any Reason and YouTube just blocked 4K HDR on Android Devices. Very sad about that since i know that it can Work...

Question No HDR streaming in Amazon Prime Video, yet works fine with YouTube and Netflix

Does anyone have issues with Amazon Prime Video not playing HDR content? It plays max at 1080P
gt610 said:
Does anyone have issues with Amazon Prime Video not playing HDR content? It plays max at 1080P
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Does not seem to be a common issue.
Check settings on your device related to display, video playing, etc.
It_ler said:
Does not seem to be a common issue.
Check settings on your device related to display, video playing, etc.
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Everything looks good in settings, I've also tried reaching out to Amazon support, but they are no help!
gt610 said:
Does anyone have issues with Amazon Prime Video not playing HDR content? It plays max at 1080P
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why are you so sure that it isn't playing in HDR? I mean it says HD right below the selection
from my knowledge If it's says HDR it's displaying in HDR.

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