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Hi...few queries about mate 9, ML00 128gb , 6 gb ram

I read a few threads here..the following are my queries...
hi all. im a new user of a huawei handset and a bit confused with few things..
1- notification sounds for telegram/whatsapp are inconsistent...sometimes i hear the notifications other times they dont sound off..the other important point is, my messages dont appear until i open the app (or click on it to open)....( there a few threads on this issue here and it seems like the problem has not been solved as i tried some of the offered solutions but didnt work)...
2- in the app drawer mode, how can i get the google voice command widget (ok google) on the screen? the widget disappeared when i went to the app drawer mode and it was not available in the widgets section.
3- there is an app called notepad which is huawei based i assume but its mainly for reminders. is there another app by huawei dedicated for taking notes which synchronizes with outlook??
4- does the app store close when downloading a large file? it happened to me everytime with certain large apps. anyone experienced the same? maybe a bug.
5- a HTC related question as someone may have tried it. is it possible to install the APK for blinkfeed on the mate 9? i tried but didnt work...anyone tried it with any success?
6. the final question i have... how do you get to see message notifications on your lock screen like on HTC phones for example??!! Is a similar function available ala HTC??!!
in general, the phone is very good. it has some nifty gestures which are actually handy and can be great in reducing time needed for doing things like the double knuckle action for screen freeze. also, the split screen and cut. very useful. didnt even know about it until i bought it!!!
as opposed to samsung gimmicks those are useful on the mate 9.
i ordered the Chinese version as i wanted 128gb + 6 gb ram.
thanks and advance.

> 5- a HTC related question as someone may have tried it. is it possible to install the APK for blinkfeed on the mate 9? i tried but didnt work...anyone tried it with any success?
I think theres an HTC launcher floating around. Have you checked apkmirror.com?

For Blinkfeed you'd need HTC Sense's framework. I found this, https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...blinkfeed-plugins-devices-08-03-2015-t3049438
Edit: It's post #2

Thanks for the HTC tip. Will try it afterwards
I found a solution to my second query. I deleted and reinstalled google now and somehow both google widgets appeared so its all good now.
However, the two with my highest concerns are queries 1 & 4.

I installed the apk for blinkfeed but the one for the social media were not available from mega!!
How do i actually use the sense/blinkfeed now i installed it??

App Store crash when downloading a large file
This is due to you didn't turn on storage access for google play store.
I don't know why the default permission for storage was off, but apparently if you turn that back on, it will fix the app store crash bug.
Sal_Al said:
I read a few threads here..the following are my queries...
hi all. im a new user of a huawei handset and a bit confused with few things..
1- notification sounds for telegram/whatsapp are inconsistent...sometimes i hear the notifications other times they dont sound off..the other important point is, my messages dont appear until i open the app (or click on it to open)....( there a few threads on this issue here and it seems like the problem has not been solved as i tried some of the offered solutions but didnt work)...
2- in the app drawer mode, how can i get the google voice command widget (ok google) on the screen? the widget disappeared when i went to the app drawer mode and it was not available in the widgets section.
3- there is an app called notepad which is huawei based i assume but its mainly for reminders. is there another app by huawei dedicated for taking notes which synchronizes with outlook??
4- does the app store close when downloading a large file? it happened to me everytime with certain large apps. anyone experienced the same? maybe a bug.
5- a HTC related question as someone may have tried it. is it possible to install the APK for blinkfeed on the mate 9? i tried but didnt work...anyone tried it with any success?
6. the final question i have... how do you get to see message notifications on your lock screen like on HTC phones for example??!! Is a similar function available ala HTC??!!
in general, the phone is very good. it has some nifty gestures which are actually handy and can be great in reducing time needed for doing things like the double knuckle action for screen freeze. also, the split screen and cut. very useful. didnt even know about it until i bought it!!!
as opposed to samsung gimmicks those are useful on the mate 9.
i ordered the Chinese version as i wanted 128gb + 6 gb ram.
thanks and advance.
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ba703863 said:
This is due to you didn't turn on storage access for google play store.
I don't know why the default permission for storage was off, but apparently if you turn that back on, it will fix the app store crash bug.
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Thanks. I forgot to update the above post. I have done that and it was fixed.

Also the OK Google thing seems to be working after tweakings in the permissions etc.
I couldn't get the HTC blink feed to work. It seems like I have it but I don't know where to go to activate it!!
The big problem seems to be the notifications.

Android 8.0 Oreo and Sony-xperia-XZ-Premium

Oreo dropped yesterday for the pixel etc. How quick or slow is Sony with getting out major releases?

dude watch your life, they will release it when it's ready..............

Predictions made here http://www.androidauthority.com/android-8-0-update-784308/
It will release when its ready Enjoy your device until then

I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.

Ha, what condisending replies. My life is good thank you and I already enjoy my device. Just trying to start a discussion on the matter.

Well it better arrives fast, the Bluetooth issue is really annoying me, can't enjoy the device as I wish I could.

At least three months
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Can't we get the bugs squashed in this version before we move on to another one? Everybody wants the latest greatest as if it will fix everything when in reality all it does is introduce new bugs and then this whole merry-go-round of complaints starts all over again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, etc., etc.
I think we get the point...at least I wish somebody would!

The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.

gee2012 said:
The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.
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I don't know what rock you have been under but 8 is very much out since a few days back, and OEMs absolutely receive early versions to start preparations.

Since Oreo was only released 4 days ago and probably been uploaded to AOSP only 3 days don't expect Oreo on other devices for like 2-3 months at least..
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Xifar said:
I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.
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Treble is only to update faster. Messing with the camera quality when unlocking is a Sony thing

I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD

nomailx said:
I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD
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I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers

decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/

Lazaros_K said:
Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/
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Like it was siad...
xperia keyboard requires maintenance and reason why it´s no longer available. The cost strategy around SD is to CUT!!!

@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...

lebigmac said:
@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...
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Absolutely right! TrackID service has been killed which annoys me as nothing works as well, they are pushing us to use Shazam but the comparison between the two apps shows that TrackID is far superior to Shazam. But, if you go to APKMirror website and search for Sony apps, you can find most of the things they have removed as stand-alone APK's and they are compatible up to Android Nougat.
I just purchased my XZ Premium, it is due for delivery tomorrow and I am still using my immaculate Z5 Premium, but if there are lots of Sony apps missing that I am used to using on my Z5 Premium, I may have to send it back or rather not upgrade to Oreo and get the apps off APKMirror for Nougat.

Dual Shock 3 support is gone on 8.0?
Mines working now on 7.1.1

decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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4 = from Google ( All Android phones after 6, not only Sony )
6 = agree with you, also you can installing the apps manually
7 = Xperia keyboard available to download, the bad thing swift keyboard can't be disabling or uninstall!
14 = they not removing this fetures, you can find it in ( setting > Device connection ) first one.
Some points , you can install the apps apk

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I have recorded on my XZP @ 4k 60fps 100mbps bitrate while I was playing @ 4k 60fps an HDR at the end of the movie.

What is your wishlist for future Funtouch/system firmware updates ?

So it looks like Vivo seem to take some what good care about the updates so far and android 9 is promised to be delivered to us for Q4.
So what is your wishlist or recommendation that vivo should work on for future firmware updates ?
I have the chinese version myself and I realize that those with a global version have a vastly different experience then those global users with the Chinese rom.
So Please tell us what you are using also...some of the stuff is fixed in the global version.
Funtouch is getting a lot of criticism for being a iOS look a like, personally I find it not to be a negative thing, transparent UI feels more timeless to me, it looks more modern, while the android vanilla looks to me kind of dated and where not much have happen in the last 5 years. I also like that the design is kind of streamlined, I used textra sms app before but now I think the stock sms app looks better in conjunction with the rest of the UI experience. So I dont mind they dont use material design. I really like the control panel swipe from left button its more ergonomic and smart then swiping from top. I dont like the stock launcher, just as with the other chinese launchers like miui, emui etc I dont like the folders I dont want the folder to pop up in the middle of the screen its just less ergonomic and less easy to reach, that is why I use Rootless Pixel Launcher.

Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.
I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.
I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3
They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.
But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.
They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!
I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.
Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.
It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.
Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.
They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.
Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.
All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.
From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.
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Notifications from external applications are what is missing from the AOD. If not for the smartwatch, I do not know how I could do it without notifications.
I sorry for my English, I use Google Translator.

I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good:

paatha13 said:
Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.
I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.
I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3
They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.
But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.
They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!
I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.
Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.
It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.
Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.
They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.
Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.
All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.
From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.
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I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.
Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?
We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,

ruk21201 said:
I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good:
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If you have performance problem I think it might depend on what permissions you gave to the apps, I did try to give all apps with push notifcations "startup" permission I saw a drastic change in battery life, its this permission I think make it lay constantly in background and talk and syncing with all google apps in background constantly, with it on I got a more "normal" battery life from what I usually get from a phone sold in the west. Be also careful with what apps you give "allow high power consumption in background", in my findings, as long as you have the "autostart" permissions you dont need to have it added in the "allow high power consumption" list if its is chat apps, the only expection here is multimedia apps for video and audio this are the apps that most be added in this list otherwise to break..
When I added "Start up" permission to too many apps I did experience the phone to feel more "heavy" and not as fast...

blackinfinity said:
I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.
Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?
We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
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According to Vivo support the software update that supposedly brings support LDAC is fake.
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After latest update Vivo add LDAC support to device.
1.20.5 Chinese version
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/how-to/nex-global-rom-features-compared-to-t3821224/page7
So one major feature lack of Vivo software has been resolved.
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I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am

blackinfinity said:
I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
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I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.
It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.
When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.
I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.
To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.
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I'm all about the battery life. Even the battery is good got around 9h sot I'd like it to be more like 10-11h of sot. Everything else is solid.

paatha13 said:
I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.
It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.
When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.
I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.
To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.
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Thanks for the information I did read some other person who did disable wisdom engine without any problems but now I will not consider to disable it...

the main items on my wishlist:
- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp
- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo
- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60
- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme

Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.
Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.
So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.
Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
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paatha13 said:
Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.
Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.
So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.
Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
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i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:

hamdir said:
i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:
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I prefer more personalized communication with them so talking with them only via messenger support
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hamdir said:
the main items on my wishlist:
- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp
- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo
- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60
- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
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When I look at my global version of my vivo NEX S I don't see or feel an IOS device maybe change your launcher, this is android you have a choice.

Huawei community forums...how to file bugs on Huawei phones?

I've been trying to log into Huawei's community forums for a while, but no matter what I try, it results in an error page. It's the most extraordinarily frustrating experience. I wonder if anyone else has any tips to getting logged in.
My main reason for wanting to log in, apart from having a general look for tips, etc, is to find out how to inform them of a bug in their OS. Does anyone have any recommendations for how best to do that?

In fact, I often log in the community forum as my mobile phone is a Huawei device. I would like to help you report the bug.
You may post your bug description here. You can write in English or in Chinese.
If it is in English, I will translate it by myself before submit to the forum .

James_Watson said:
In fact, I often log in the community forum as my mobile phone is a Huawei device. I would like to help you report the bug.
You may post your bug description here. You can write in English or in Chinese.
If it is in English, I will translate it by myself before submit to the forum .
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Well, that's very civilised of you. I'll write in English, since that's the only language I know
Actually, I have three bugs - well, I think they're bugs, except, perhaps, for the first one.
1. This one isn't really a bug, but I bet the people on the Huawei forums can help.
FYI, I use a sim card from CMLink - SIM #1 [1], which piggy back off EE in the UK, and CMCC in China, and provide useful roaming plans for use between the two countries. They only provide data plans limited by the month, and I have signed up for their 22GB plan. To track usage, I have a P10 and have been trying to set it up to automatically calibrate the data usage measure on a daily basis. I think it does this by sending an SMS containing simply 'Check' to CMCC's service number '10086', and extracts the data from the response (not 100% sure about that, but hey). There seems to be a 'calibrate' button in the settings to do this manually (under the usage graph), but when I try I get the message 'Incorrect network provider. Reselect and try again.' I'd really like to get this going.
2. Related to above, I've set the setting to show the usage under the notifications when you drag down from the top of the screen. I've configured my plan information - ie 22GB per month, and starts on the 17th of each month. However, while the 'Today' seems to increase appropriately, the 'Left' is stuck at the maximum. I imagine the 'Total' is supposed to stay at 22GB. I expect the 'Left' to go down as I use it throughout the month.
3. This one is unrelated to above. If I open a browser and go to my web mail site, there is an option on the menu to 'Add to Home screen'. As expected, when I select that option, it does add an icon to the homescreen. Since it is something I want on every page of the homescreen, I drag that icon onto the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. I do that for a couple of web pages - my email and my calendar. At this point, it all works swimmingly. However, if I reboot the phone, then those icons seem to be moved back onto the homescreen, and also are 'greyed out' and placed under the clocks (the clock widget) I have placed there. So, that's not 'expected'.
What do you think?
Max.
Device info:
Model: VTR-AL00
Build number: 9.1.0.201 (C00E75R1P12patch02) GPU Turbo
EMUI version: 9.1.0
Android version: 9
Android security patch: 1 August 2019
Kernel version: 4.9.148
Network (I selected things that might be helpful):
SIM 1 (my UK CMLink SIM): China Mobile, LTE, SMS centre number - a UK number
SIM 2 (my Chinese CMCC SIM): China Mobile, EDGE, SMS centre number - a China number
[1] ...and also a 2nd one, SIM 2, which is a local SIM

James_Watson said:
In fact, I often log in the community forum as my mobile phone is a Huawei device. I would like to help you report the bug.
You may post your bug description here. You can write in English or in Chinese.
If it is in English, I will translate it by myself before submit to the forum .
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You could also, if you would be so kind, help me fix my problems logging into the Huawei community forums...

davidmaxwaterman said:
You could also, if you would be so kind, help me fix my problems logging into the Huawei community forums...
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What's your question about logging into that forum?
But as I found, it seems a community forum in Chinese. Almost all posts there are in Chinese. So, will you get any effective response even if you can log in it?
Maybe it's better to contact a local Huawei customer service center in order to get some helps. Do you think so?
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davidmaxwaterman said:
Well, that's very civilised of you. I'll write in English, since that's the only language I know
Actually, I have three bugs - well, I think they're bugs, except, perhaps, for the first one.
1. This one isn't really a bug, but I bet the people on the Huawei forums can help.
FYI, I use a sim card from CMLink - SIM #1 [1], which piggy back off EE in the UK, and CMCC in China, and provide useful roaming plans for use between the two countries. They only provide data plans limited by the month, and I have signed up for their 22GB plan. To track usage, I have a P10 and have been trying to set it up to automatically calibrate the data usage measure on a daily basis. I think it does this by sending an SMS containing simply 'Check' to CMCC's service number '10086', and extracts the data from the response (not 100% sure about that, but hey). There seems to be a 'calibrate' button in the settings to do this manually (under the usage graph), but when I try I get the message 'Incorrect network provider. Reselect and try again.' I'd really like to get this going.
2. Related to above, I've set the setting to show the usage under the notifications when you drag down from the top of the screen. I've configured my plan information - ie 22GB per month, and starts on the 17th of each month. However, while the 'Today' seems to increase appropriately, the 'Left' is stuck at the maximum. I imagine the 'Total' is supposed to stay at 22GB. I expect the 'Left' to go down as I use it throughout the month.
3. This one is unrelated to above. If I open a browser and go to my web mail site, there is an option on the menu to 'Add to Home screen'. As expected, when I select that option, it does add an icon to the homescreen. Since it is something I want on every page of the homescreen, I drag that icon onto the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. I do that for a couple of web pages - my email and my calendar. At this point, it all works swimmingly. However, if I reboot the phone, then those icons seem to be moved back onto the homescreen, and also are 'greyed out' and placed under the clocks (the clock widget) I have placed there. So, that's not 'expected'.
What do you think?
Max.
Device info:
Model: VTR-AL00
Build number: 9.1.0.201 (C00E75R1P12patch02) GPU Turbo
EMUI version: 9.1.0
Android version: 9
Android security patch: 1 August 2019
Kernel version: 4.9.148
Network (I selected things that might be helpful):
SIM 1 (my UK CMLink SIM): China Mobile, LTE, SMS centre number - a UK number
SIM 2 (my Chinese CMCC SIM): China Mobile, EDGE, SMS centre number - a China number
[1] ...and also a 2nd one, SIM 2, which is a local SIM
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Your three question are really confused and difficult to understand for me as I never used a CMLink sim card.
But I will try my best to get to know your situations and help you as more as I can.
First, let's clarify your 3rd question.
On my Huawei phone, there are at most 5 icons on the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. Every icon here for apps on my device works fine even if I reboot my device. So, is it a defect of the couple of web pages - email and calendar?
Try to drag an icon of another app or widget there. Check if it will work well, please.

> I never used a CMLink sim card
I don't think there's anything special about the CMLink, except that it works in either country pretty much the same as the other. It is the same as any other SIM card with a monthly limited data plan. So, you could consider that it is the same as a Chinese SIM card, I suppose.
> So, is it a defect of the couple of web pages - email and calendar?
Well, I guess I don't know exactly what the problem is, of course. My impression is that they hadn't considered this use-case much at all - I notice the Huawei browser doesn't have this 'add to homescreen' functionality at all.
However, you prompted me to experiment a bit more, and it doesn't happen with all web pages. Previously, I had my email and calendar on there, and they both were moved back onto the homescreen underneath other icons/widgets and greyed out (and didn't actually work to launch the web pages). However, now, the calendar page does seem to stay on there, and works when I click it. I also have tried both Chrome and Brave, and they both seem to show the same problem. I can't really see how it could be a web page problem, since nothing is being launched. I suppose it could be a web *manifest* problem, since that is where the icons usually come from...though looking in chrome devtools, I see that it has no manifest, and so the icons must be taken from the <meta> in <head>. The calendar, which does seem to be staying on the quick launch bar, also doesn't have a manifest file - so not that then.
It's pretty easy to reproduce though:
1. open your browser (chrome, probably) on https://www.fastmail.fm/
2. click on the menu and select 'Add to homescreen'
3. 'Add' on the dialog
4. 'ADD on the next dialog
5. go to the homescreen and locate the shortcut
6. drag and drop it onto the quick launch bar.
7. restart
Well, that's frustrating - I was writing those down as I did them, and when I restarted, it looked fine :/ I wonder if it makes any difference which position the icons are in on...ah, yeah, it looks like it is more reproducible if the shortcut is the left-most. Arghh. This time I lost a *native* app I had on there too - WeChat of all things - you'd imagine they'd make sure that works fine. Actually, it wasn't the WeChat app I had on there, but a shortcut to one of the contacts - you can add a wechat contact from the menu on their item in the wechat contacts list - 'Add to Desktop' it is in English. Hrm I notice that, while the web page shortcuts get moved back onto the homescreen, the WeChat contact shortcut is just gone....and I can't even add it again from WeChat - it says it is, but nothing appears :/
Gosh, it's really a bit of a mess. Perhaps it's too broken and inconsistent to even bother filing any bug. I'm tempted to apply for a job there to try and help, but in any case, I can't see too many Westerners being happy with such issues I suppose Chinese people just don't do this sort of thing.

> What's your question about logging into that forum?
>
> But as I found, it seems a community forum in Chinese. Almost all posts there are in Chinese. So, will you get any effective response even if you can log in it?
> Maybe it's better to contact a local Huawei customer service center in order to get some helps. Do you think so?
Well, the question is where I can get help with logging in - but, if it is all in Chinese, I would modify my question to be: where can I find forums that are in English, and corresponding community support? Since there is a huge market for English speakers, I imagine they have somewhere for us to learn how to use it, and ask questions and report problems, etc?

davidmaxwaterman said:
> What's your question about logging into that forum?
>
> But as I found, it seems a community forum in Chinese. Almost all posts there are in Chinese. So, will you get any effective response even if you can log in it?
> Maybe it's better to contact a local Huawei customer service center in order to get some helps. Do you think so?
Well, the question is where I can get help with logging in - but, if it is all in Chinese, I would modify my question to be: where can I find forums that are in English, and corresponding community support? Since there is a huge market for English speakers, I imagine they have somewhere for us to learn how to use it, and ask questions and report problems, etc?
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Yes, your requirement is very reasonable.
When I posted some questions about mobile phone usage here, there would be someone would replied to my thread and tried to get more detailed info to help me. They said they were the Huawei official staff.
I will post a thread about "where for you to ask questions and report problems in English" for you soon.
On the other hand, you can access the forum either via web application (mobile web as well as computer web) or via an official app. You can also try the app. If you need it and can not find the apk, I will show you the link.

James_Watson said:
Yes, your requirement is very reasonable.
When I posted some questions about mobile phone usage here, there would be someone would replied to my thread and tried to get more detailed info to help me. They said they were the Huawei official staff.
I will post a thread about "where for you to ask questions and report problems in English" for you soon.
On the other hand, you can access the forum either via web application (mobile web as well as computer web) or via an official app. You can also try the app. If you need it and can not find the apk, I will show you the link.
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Thanks. I look forward to finding out if there is a forum for English language users somewhere. I do kind of feel like they could spend more attention to this requirement, unless, of course, I'm just not looking hard enough. I remember when I was using a ZTE phone - they were very popular due to having front-facing speakers, and so had a pretty good US based forum and it was very useful. [Side note - I wish Huawei would produce a phone with front-facing speakers].
I don't think an app will get me very far...I probably have it on my phone already - I see one called 'HiCare', for example, and there's the top line on the settings. It's all very unfamiliar and things so often don't seem to quite work as expected. I kind of wish the Huawei stores had 'help' sessions like they do (or did anyway) in Apple stores.

davidmaxwaterman said:
> I never used a CMLink sim card
I don't think there's anything special about the CMLink, except that it works in either country pretty much the same as the other. It is the same as any other SIM card with a monthly limited data plan. So, you could consider that it is the same as a Chinese SIM card, I suppose.
> So, is it a defect of the couple of web pages - email and calendar?
Well, I guess I don't know exactly what the problem is, of course. My impression is that they hadn't considered this use-case much at all - I notice the Huawei browser doesn't have this 'add to homescreen' functionality at all.
However, you prompted me to experiment a bit more, and it doesn't happen with all web pages. Previously, I had my email and calendar on there, and they both were moved back onto the homescreen underneath other icons/widgets and greyed out (and didn't actually work to launch the web pages). However, now, the calendar page does seem to stay on there, and works when I click it. I also have tried both Chrome and Brave, and they both seem to show the same problem. I can't really see how it could be a web page problem, since nothing is being launched. I suppose it could be a web *manifest* problem, since that is where the icons usually come from...though looking in chrome devtools, I see that it has no manifest, and so the icons must be taken from the <meta> in <head>. The calendar, which does seem to be staying on the quick launch bar, also doesn't have a manifest file - so not that then.
It's pretty easy to reproduce though:
1. open your browser (chrome, probably) on https://www.fastmail.fm/
2. click on the menu and select 'Add to homescreen'
3. 'Add' on the dialog
4. 'ADD on the next dialog
5. go to the homescreen and locate the shortcut
6. drag and drop it onto the quick launch bar.
7. restart
Well, that's frustrating - I was writing those down as I did them, and when I restarted, it looked fine :/ I wonder if it makes any difference which position the icons are in on...ah, yeah, it looks like it is more reproducible if the shortcut is the left-most. Arghh. This time I lost a *native* app I had on there too - WeChat of all things - you'd imagine they'd make sure that works fine. Actually, it wasn't the WeChat app I had on there, but a shortcut to one of the contacts - you can add a wechat contact from the menu on their item in the wechat contacts list - 'Add to Desktop' it is in English. Hrm I notice that, while the web page shortcuts get moved back onto the homescreen, the WeChat contact shortcut is just gone....and I can't even add it again from WeChat - it says it is, but nothing appears :/
Gosh, it's really a bit of a mess. Perhaps it's too broken and inconsistent to even bother filing any bug. I'm tempted to apply for a job there to try and help, but in any case, I can't see too many Westerners being happy with such issues I suppose Chinese people just don't do this sort of thing.
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1. About CMLink, okay, I just posted a thread for you to Huawei community about how to report issue about Huawei phone usage for those speak English. Wait for their response, please.
2. Now I have gotten to know the feature 'Add to Home Screen'. In my Firefox Focus browser, I found it. I will have a try soon.

James_Watson said:
1. About CMLink, okay, I just posted a thread for you to Huawei community about how to report issue about Huawei phone usage for those speak English. Wait for their response, please.
2. Now I have gotten to know the feature 'Add to Home Screen'. In my Firefox Focus browser, I found it. I will have a try soon.
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Awesome. That's very cool of you, thanks Maybe I'll try Firefox too...
Max.

davidmaxwaterman said:
Awesome. That's very cool of you, thanks Maybe I'll try Firefox too...
Max.
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I tried Firefox Focus just now.
When I opened a simple web page, then selected 'Add to Home screen' from the menu, entered some words for the icon title, tap 'Add' at last.
But it was so strange that then I couldn't find this icon on the home screen at all. It must be a bug of Huawei EMUI system. The QC engineers should ignore this use case.
Btw, it's time to home for me. I will try to help you tomorrow. Would you like to support my apps available on Google Play? Thanks in advance.

James_Watson said:
I tried Firefox Focus just now.
When I opened a simple web page, then select 'Add to Home screen' from the menu, entered some words for the icon title, tap 'Add' at last.
But it was so strange that then I couldn't find this icon on the home screen at all. It must be a bug of Huawei EMUI system. The QC engineers should ignore this use case.
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Ah, I hit this too. I suspect it is simply that you need to grant the app permissions to add to homescreen in the phone's settings in the Apps->permissions...or somewhere like that.
It's a bit odd that they don't get this automatically...I never had this issue with Google Android phones.

James_Watson said:
I tried Firefox Focus just now.
When I opened a simple web page, then selected 'Add to Home screen' from the menu, entered some words for the icon title, tap 'Add' at last.
But it was so strange that then I couldn't find this icon on the home screen at all. It must be a bug of Huawei EMUI system. The QC engineers should ignore this use case.
Btw, it's time to home for me. I will try to help you tomorrow. Would you like to support my apps available on Google Play? Thanks in advance.
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You are right. I granted the app permission 'add to homescreen' to Firefox Focus, and then tried the feature again.
The function works well. Even after rebooting, the icon is still there on the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. So, I misunderstood that feature.

James_Watson said:
You are right. I granted the app permission 'add to homescreen' to Firefox Focus, and then tried the feature again.
The function works well. Even after rebooting, the icon is still there on the row on the bottom of the screen that is shown on every page. So, I misunderstood that feature.
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Cool. It seems like it might be working better for you than for me. I've not tried firefox yet, but chrome and brave both seem to lose any shortcuts on the quick launch bar, but not always. It is also quite curious what has happened to the shortcut from wechat...since that's a native android app :/
Perhaps you're on a more recent Android/EMUI version? What kind of phone are you using?
TBH, I'm seriously considering the P30 Pro 5G when I get back to the UK, and this is sort of a test run with a hand-me-down phone which I presume is very similar in UI/UX, so it is all 'influencing' my decision.

davidmaxwaterman said:
Cool. It seems like it might be working better for you than for me. I've not tried firefox yet, but chrome and brave both seem to lose any shortcuts on the quick launch bar, but not always. It is also quite curious what has happened to the shortcut from wechat...since that's a native android app :/
Perhaps you're on a more recent Android/EMUI version? What kind of phone are you using?
TBH, I'm seriously considering the P30 Pro 5G when I get back to the UK, and this is sort of a test run with a hand-me-down phone which I presume is very similar in UI/UX, so it is all 'influencing' my decision.
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In fact, my phone is an old model, Mate 8 with EMUI/Android 8.0. I also have a wechat installed on my device.
Btw, would you like to leave a 5-star for my app which is available on Google Play? Thanks.

James_Watson said:
In fact, my phone is an old model, Mate 8 with EMUI/Android 8.0. I also have a wechat installed on my device.
Btw, would you like to leave a 5-star for my app which is available on Google Play? Thanks.
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LOL, well I would be happy to, except I don't have Google Play on my phone...or Google anything, I think....except Chrome, of course. I'm a web app developer, so I prefer to use web apps than native android apps.

davidmaxwaterman said:
LOL, well I would be happy to, except I don't have Google Play on my phone...or Google anything, I think....except Chrome, of course. I'm a web app developer, so I prefer to use web apps than native android apps.
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I posted a thread in that forum for you yesterday. https://club.huawei.com/thread-21560821-1-1.html
But till now, I have not gotten any response. So, I sent a PM to the ADMIN just now.
You may try to log in the web app or the native app for the community forum. There you might post a thread in English as your device language is English. Have a try, please. Good luck to you.

Yesterday, I managed to contact the CEO of Huawei Consumer Business Group, Richard Yu, through his social network account. But till now I have not gotten his reply to my PM.
I suggest you post your issues on the Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/ . Good luck to you.

RealMe Q - 3rd party messaging app, PC SMS, Start Up Manager issues...

First off, I love this phone and reason why I got the Q China version was because it had the 6GB RAM which the 5 pro does not have with a price gap difference. 90% of this phone is perfect, the other 10% I can live with and hopefully they will make these changes in future updates. For you all looking at this Q model in North America, might want consider this before you get the Q version.
1. Using 3rd party messaging apps, this is basic stuff, why would any company lock you from using another sms app other then the stock one, this is only on the Q models I believe. It's like I'm back using and Iphone again lol. If you go the default settings, it will not list any other installed messaging app. I've been using ChompSMS for years and I love it, not I'm stuck using Q's messaging app, which is not bad but no where close to Chomp. Also, if I'm forced to use their messaging app, at the very least make it more customizable, ie. separate contact tones, pop up quick reply window etc. In ColorOS 6, it use to not even allow me to use another launcher but that got changed/fixed in UI 1.0, thank God, now you can use Nova Prime or your own launcher.
2. PC SMS, I work from home and use my PC to text constantly either with PushBullet or MightyText, with this Messaging app constriction, every time use these PC apps, it asks for a TXT message verification on my phone either face id or fingerprint, kind of defeats the purpose of texting on your PC. I wish there was away around this or a setting, I've looked everywhere in the phone settings and set every damn permission, nope.
3. Startup Manager... great idea to reduce battery use, but only limit to 5? come on. At least give us the option to set how many start up limits we want and just give us a warning that the more we use the more power it drains. Again, back to the Iphone days lol.
Other then these, I'm keeping my phone for all the pros, it's fast, screen looks good, these things are just really annoyances that I hope Oppo/RealMe or whoever will fix in the next OS update. I've seen some post of using custom rom on this Q model but also seeing a lot of glitches, I don't think it's worth having this issues for these minor annoyances. I've been using custom roms on other phones and tablets for years now, some with great luck and some I almost end up throwing the device through my window due to custom rom glitches lol.
If anyone finds a solution(s) for these annoyances other then using custom ROMS, please let me know I'll buy you a coffee and donuts lol.

Sorry, i can't read all of this!!!!
Plz make a short thread

hsm90 said:
Sorry, i can't read all of this!!!!
Plz make a short thread
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This is the short version lol How are you not able to read all of this?