Android 8.0 Oreo and Sony-xperia-XZ-Premium - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

Oreo dropped yesterday for the pixel etc. How quick or slow is Sony with getting out major releases?

dude watch your life, they will release it when it's ready..............

Predictions made here http://www.androidauthority.com/android-8-0-update-784308/
It will release when its ready Enjoy your device until then

I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.

Ha, what condisending replies. My life is good thank you and I already enjoy my device. Just trying to start a discussion on the matter.

Well it better arrives fast, the Bluetooth issue is really annoying me, can't enjoy the device as I wish I could.

At least three months
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Can't we get the bugs squashed in this version before we move on to another one? Everybody wants the latest greatest as if it will fix everything when in reality all it does is introduce new bugs and then this whole merry-go-round of complaints starts all over again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, etc., etc.
I think we get the point...at least I wish somebody would!

The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.

gee2012 said:
The official 8 release isn't even out yet, it's still in beta. OEMS only work with official releases.
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I don't know what rock you have been under but 8 is very much out since a few days back, and OEMs absolutely receive early versions to start preparations.

Since Oreo was only released 4 days ago and probably been uploaded to AOSP only 3 days don't expect Oreo on other devices for like 2-3 months at least..
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Xifar said:
I hope they implement Treble. Might mean we're able to root without messing up the camera.
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Treble is only to update faster. Messing with the camera quality when unlocking is a Sony thing

I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
xD

nomailx said:
I'd rather have sony update the device with better software for the camera and speakers than the crappy whatever they are using right now. Sony's hardware works like...
... you know when you have a device hooked to your PC and it basically works, but you can't use 100% of its potential because you're using Windows drivers and not the Device's proper drivers...
Well that's how Sony's "anything" works.
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I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers

decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/

Lazaros_K said:
Screen Mirroring is still here. Works perfectly with my Sony Bravia.
Edit: Apparently the Xperia Keyboard app dissappeared again from the PlayStore. It was available there a month ago :/
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Like it was siad...
xperia keyboard requires maintenance and reason why it´s no longer available. The cost strategy around SD is to CUT!!!

@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...

lebigmac said:
@decomposed
Nice list but I bet that this list is incomplete. They removed much much more features...
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Absolutely right! TrackID service has been killed which annoys me as nothing works as well, they are pushing us to use Shazam but the comparison between the two apps shows that TrackID is far superior to Shazam. But, if you go to APKMirror website and search for Sony apps, you can find most of the things they have removed as stand-alone APK's and they are compatible up to Android Nougat.
I just purchased my XZ Premium, it is due for delivery tomorrow and I am still using my immaculate Z5 Premium, but if there are lots of Sony apps missing that I am used to using on my Z5 Premium, I may have to send it back or rather not upgrade to Oreo and get the apps off APKMirror for Nougat.

Dual Shock 3 support is gone on 8.0?
Mines working now on 7.1.1

decomposed said:
I would say they are rather fast with updates now.
The reason for that is they cutting the costs policy which means they removed so many features / functiones we had in the past to cut the costs that it is almost ugly, stock Android...
Then they does not need to spend money on adopting all these features/functions to newer versions, so we paid them the money and not receiving what we paid for. Note this policy to cut the costs on software continue and we should expect even more features to be removed in time. Instead, they will provide useless 3D scanner, but I wonder what will be the number of new features Sony (and not Google) will provide versus the ones being removed. So far they removed more or less:
1. Small apps
2. Radio
3. Many good looking and useful widgets (including Album widget, previous Weather widget, camera widget, recent calls etc.)
4. Lock screen widgets
5. Most of dedicted apps for the camera (Burst, Info etc.) and even "+" button in camera app yahoo (even if you will download a Sony camera dedicated app from Google Play like Horror and install it it will not be visible in the systm or camera app, they need to prevent you from using it as they know better what you want to use, not you!)
6. Useful battery graph (now you do not know for how long your device is actually running, most important is some blind prediction for how long it still will be running - of course made of crystal ball)
7. Xperia keyboard, now you have pathetic swift without the option to use old one
8. Messages, the good messaging app was taken away, now we have stupid google one, where even so simple information like telephone number is not easily visible for each message thread, you need to dig into options as this important information is of course hidden now. New feature is that now both app icon and app itself is ugly like h ell.
9. Contacts - see point above
10. Calendar - see point above
11. Double tap to wake - yes, it has been taken away as well blush
12. Screen recording
13. My Xperia service (to locate your device), well you can download any crapware from Google play right? Why do you need this? Why do you need this phone at all? You can buy any other that has these features.
14. Screen mirroring
15. MHL
16. DualShock 3 support
17. Stock Android live wallpapers
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4 = from Google ( All Android phones after 6, not only Sony )
6 = agree with you, also you can installing the apps manually
7 = Xperia keyboard available to download, the bad thing swift keyboard can't be disabling or uninstall!
14 = they not removing this fetures, you can find it in ( setting > Device connection ) first one.
Some points , you can install the apps apk

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I have recorded on my XZP @ 4k 60fps 100mbps bitrate while I was playing @ 4k 60fps an HDR at the end of the movie.

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[APP] Prox: Control of The Force :) A new way to command your phone...

Hello all! I had a thread but it was locked because it was a paid app. Now, there is a free one to check out. It's called Prox Lite and it has just been added to the Android market.
Prox makes use of the phone's proximity sensor and accelerometer to initiate an action. Prox figures out what orientation you are holding the phone and then activates that action when you swipe your hand across the proximity sensor. Prox Lite has 4 actions:
*Flat - Emulate home button
*Toward - Expand and contract notification panel
*Left - Launch phone dialer
*Right - Launch browser (google.com)
All you have to do is turn on the service through the app and then tilt the phone in the direction you are trying to activate the action for and then pass your hand over the proximity sensor and it will activate the action for that direction.
You can amaze your friends, and feel like a Jedi. Imagine the look on your friend's faces when you do things without even touching the phone itself. Just to ease your mind, Prox is disabled when the screen is off and when you are in a call. Normal proximity sensor usage is preserved during these situations to you don't have to worry about Prox doing things when you don't want it to
Here are some thoughts about the app
Gizmodo best apps (June 10th)
Lifehacker App of the Day
Droid-Life App of the Day
Addictive Tips Post
Make Use Of Post
Here is a video of it in action (Pro version) if the description I have provided doesn't really make any sense Be sure to follow me on Twitter: @SemperGumbee for updates and support.
Here is another video made by one of our own members here at XDA. Thanks patrick848!
He also wrote a little write up here if you want to check it out.
And, here is a link to the android market
Download Prox Lite from Android Market
Download Prox Lite from GetJar
If you have an issue where it doesn't show up in the market or it says that your device is incompatible, I have made Prox Lite available to XDA peeps via direct apk. If your device will allow install from the market, please use the link above, otherwise, click here to download the apk directly. Downloading from the market allows for easier tracking so I would appreciate it if you would download it from there This is for the members that cannot find the version because of certain software...
P.S. Some users are having trouble with making this work properly. If you are having issues with the left and right actions, try just a slight tilt and then a swipe. Refer to the video for an example of this. Also, different phones have different proximity sensors and some of them just happen to work better than others. Give it a try to see what you think and don't forget to leave a rating in the market. I hope you enjoy this app
Reserved for Wants, Updates, and Changes to the OP...
UPDATES
* Direct apk download added to OP (7-29-2011)
* App added to GetJar (8-2-2011)
* Added ability to disable constant notification
* Added other apps page...
WANTS
*More intuitive orientations
Let me know what else to add here
This is really cool. My biggest concern right now, having only just tried it for a few minutes, is potential battery drain. If it doesn't end up being too bad, i may consider trying the full version. It would be nice to be able to hide the notification bar icon, but the full version may already have that.
Battery drain is really not all that bad. The listeners are unregistered when the screen goes off. During normal phone use during the beta a few months ago, Prox was only using around 3 - 4 % battery during a normal day. But alas, this depends entirely on how much you actually use the phone itself. If your screen is on for the better part of the day, then drain will occur. But under normal use, it really isn't that bad. Thanks for the feedback
Market says its incompatible with my hd2
hewlett777 said:
Market says its incompatible with my hd2
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Hmm. It should show up for anyone running android 2.1 and over. I will investigate...
fun idea, i'm going to have to try it even though i probably won't use it regularly.
orlandojumpoff said:
fun idea, i'm going to have to try it even though i probably won't use it regularly.
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Yeah. I was originally going to put it into the Productivity category on the market, but I think it's more of a novelty than an actual productive applications. It's just cool to show people. There are some things in the paid version that can be put to actual use though. There is a Timer mode that activates an action based on how long you cover the sensor. It could be useful in a car dock or a cradle at home.
What version of Android are you running?
hewlett777 said:
Market says its incompatible with my hd2
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Forgot to quote. What version of Android are you running?
I picked up the pro version. So far it's pretty solid. Battery drain is pretty much non-existent, maybe 2% with a lot of screen time.
Some things I would like to see:
Tasker integration (this would be the best addition by far).
A combination of the Timed and normal types so you could hold over the sensor longer for a different option.
Being able to hide the icon in notifications.
Media button options like Previous Track, Play/Pause, Next Track.
Simulating a long-press of the search button to bring up Voice Actions.
Profiles that automatically change based on what app you're in.
Thanks for making this, I've been using it a lot today, and it has already become habit. Keeps my screen cleaner, too.
Dungeon47 said:
I picked up the pro version. So far it's pretty solid. Battery drain is pretty much non-existent, maybe 2% with a lot of screen time.
Some things I would like to see:
Tasker integration (this would be the best addition by far).
A combination of the Timed and normal types so you could hold over the sensor longer for a different option.
Being able to hide the icon in notifications.
Media button options like Previous Track, Play/Pause, Next Track.
Simulating a long-press of the search button to bring up Voice Actions.
Profiles that automatically change based on what app you're in.
Thanks for making this, I've been using it a lot today, and it has already become habit. Keeps my screen cleaner, too.
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Im glad that you're liking it! A lot of the things you have mentioned have already been pointed out to me and I am thinking which ones will actually be possible. Some of the things will require root access. But I have a summer job atm (10 1/2 hour days) so I am not really tinkering with it right now. When I get back into school mode, you can pretty much expect to see some if not all of this added to the pro version. I appreciate the feedback and be on the lookout to some awesome future updates
P.S. please leave a comment and rating in the market
Do you have it on any other markets? AndroidPIT, SlideME or anything similar where I can buy it with a paypal account?
For some reason the Android Market site says it's only compatible with my Wildfire and not my Desire HD :S
GigiAUT said:
Do you have it on any other markets? AndroidPIT, SlideME or anything similar where I can buy it with a paypal account?
For some reason the Android Market site says it's only compatible with my Wildfire and not my Desire HD :S
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It is not currently on any other market but the Android Market. I may add it to some of the ones you have mentioned but it may be a bit before it gets there.
My portal says that it should show up as compatible for the Desire HD. I see that you are running MIUI so that may be the reason for it not showing up. Some custom ROMs and leaked builds of Android cause this and I have no reason why.
I love the camera holding thing.
And the app downloads at the moment, looks super awesome!
TriforceKommando said:
I love the camera holding thing.
And the app downloads at the moment, looks super awesome!
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Glad you got a kick out of it
Let me know what you think when you have had a chance to play with it a little
Amazing!!!
this is app is so awesome! the lite version works perfectly on my samsung vibrant running simply honey 4.0 revolution 2.3.4. im seriously amazed by how well it works. Good job man! im definitely getting the pro version!
Emalasto said:
this is app is so awesome! the lite version works perfectly on my samsung vibrant running simply honey 4.0 revolution 2.3.4. im seriously amazed by how well it works. Good job man! im definitely getting the pro version!
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Thanks dude! I hope you enjoy the Pro version!
I just bought the pro version, setup my loadouts and all I can say is awesome!
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

Give me good reasons to buy 8x

Hi, i'm coming from 2 years of htc desire HD, I'm interested to buy a new phone, i was wainting for htc m7, but 8x is really beautifull, but i'm a little scared about wp8 give me good reasons to don't be scared and to buy 8x.
Its a smooth phone. Me and my wife wasted our upgrades on a pair of 8x. Missing a lot of basic functions and apps, which I could deal with, but then stopped receiving texts, missing calls and random rebooting. I'm now back to my Inc 2 until I can afford to buy a used phone. Very bitter about the whole deal
Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
Reasons to want a 8x
1. Its a beautiful phone.
2. Very well made.
3. Screen is awesome.
4. Camera is up there with the 920, in my opinion.
5. WP8 is a great OS. Very fluid and just works.
6. iOS and Android users always moan about the Apps, I have been with WP since the beginning and have never had any problems. Some of the big names may be missing but the alternatives on WP are in my opinion better. I believe its quality over quantity.
7. Many moan about the live tiles being distracting. If they actually use a WP they would know that these tiles stop animating after two minutes of non use so not distracting at all.
Hope these small points help in your decision.
stephboyle127 said:
Reasons to want a 8x
1. Its a beautiful phone.
2. Very well made.
3. Screen is awesome.
4. Camera is up there with the 920, in my opinion.
5. WP8 is a great OS. Very fluid and just works.
6. iOS and Android users always moan about the Apps, I have been with WP since the beginning and have never had any problems. Some of the big names may be missing but the alternatives on WP are in my opinion better. I believe its quality over quantity.
7. Many moan about the live tiles being distracting. If they actually use a WP they would know that these tiles stop animating after two minutes of non use so not distracting at all.
Hope these small points help in your decision.
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Thanks, I know, it have a beautiful design, i'm afreid about the apps, and the personalization, i have the flash maniac syndrome , but, i'm considering it, because, i'll usually don't play games on phone, my use is, send sms some calls, music (very important) photo, and when bored going to Facbook,
SuFuS01dier said:
Its a smooth phone. Me and my wife wasted our upgrades on a pair of 8x. Missing a lot of basic functions and apps, which I could deal with, but then stopped receiving texts, missing calls and random rebooting. I'm now back to my Inc 2 until I can afford to buy a used phone. Very bitter about the whole deal
Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
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Maybe is better if you sell it, to recover some money.
Ease of use. Fluid system, reduced dependence.on apps, elegant design, OS quality (texts, emails, cloud integration) Xbox connectivity.
Now, flashing my old android several times, I was worried about that as well. But this phone, I honestly don't want to flash!
I was also worried about the lack of customization, but these live tiles and just the whole set up just seems to work!
There are some apps that you may miss, but outside of Alarm Clock Extreme, I have found I don't miss anything, or.found I don't ned it after all.
Easiest for me to say is that this phone just works, really well.
Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
jerrya said:
Ease of use. Fluid system, reduced dependence.on apps, elegant design, OS quality (texts, emails, cloud integration) Xbox connectivity.
Now, flashing my old android several times, I was worried about that as well. But this phone, I honestly don't want to flash!
I was also worried about the lack of customization, but these live tiles and just the whole set up just seems to work!
There are some apps that you may miss, but outside of Alarm Clock Extreme, I have found I don't miss anything, or.found I don't ned it after all.
Easiest for me to say is that this phone just works, really well.
Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
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Thanks.
To all: can someone here on the forum give me a link to a international online shop where to found a 8x at best price?
Can't help here. I paid 33 for mine, but that's with a new 2 year contract. I'm sure someone can help here.
Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
Design
I've been a long user of HTC ever since android. Before I loved the SE phones (in the time each phone came with its own OS)
It depends what you want to do with this phone, yet I found ALOT of problems with it and reverted to my old phone even though I like the phone physically less. (HTC Desire HD)
PRO:
* Very nice design, feels just right and light
* Pretty interface
* High quality
* Top notch technology
CONS:
* Connectivity is bad - all applications are "loading... loading..." you'll find yourself waiting alot (no issue with Wifi or 3G)
* Screens are often out of sync and reload...
* No USB drive (this means, you can't plug the phone in your car to listen to music)
* No decent navigation software
* The music application is confusing - where do you "play all" ?
* All screens sortof look the same - it might be a pro as all your social networks are seemlessly put together - yet it gets boring as all looks the same. It's not an engaging experience.
* No Sender or caller block
* No sync SMS/MMS with gmail
* No "Save MMS"
* Gmail application is rediculiously slow in incomplete
* The "cloud" and sync options seem scattered. There hasn't been a clear place where I could understand what is synced and how
* How much I would love to use the NFC - yet the software is a bunch of scatterbrainedness
* No settings button
* Personalisation is limited to changing the base color - which is from a picklist (not a colorwheel)
* Typing takes more effort as typing on the HTC Desire HD (more spelling mistakes - less well touch-prediction)
I really love how the phone feels in the hand and the design - I'm in love with it. But the software has been so annoying and breaking my flow I'm back to my old phone and selling (or hoping for improvements) this one.
Just thought I'd add my comments. I've been an Android fan for many years, but I really don't regret my choice of switching to the 8X.
Tivl82 said:
* Connectivity is bad - all applications are "loading... loading..." you'll find yourself waiting alot (no issue with Wifi or 3G)
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Never had that problem myself. On 4G+ and Wifi.
Tivl82 said:
* No USB drive (this means, you can't plug the phone in your car to listen to music)
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Neither does the iPhone, the Android, and most major phones. They're all MTP now.
Tivl82 said:
* No decent navigation software
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Nokia Drive.
Tivl82 said:
* The music application is confusing - where do you "play all" ?
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When you launch the Music app, at the bottom, there's a play button. That plays all of your music.
Tivl82 said:
* All screens sortof look the same - it might be a pro as all your social networks are seemlessly put together - yet it gets boring as all looks the same. It's not an engaging experience.
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It is the Metro look. I much prefer that everything looks the same than every app you download has it's own look. Just look at Android, a lot of apps doesn't really look good, weird icons, colors, etc.
Tivl82 said:
* No Sender or caller block
* No sync SMS/MMS with gmail
* No "Save MMS"
* Gmail application is rediculiously slow in incomplete
* The "cloud" and sync options seem scattered. There hasn't been a clear place where I could understand what is synced and how
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I do agree that most of the cloud syncing is a bit weird and incomplete. The problem is that Google needs to realize that there's a potential on WP8 and develop apps for it.
Personally, overall, I love that phone. It's, without a doubt, the fastest phone I've ever used. Even if the specs are slower than a lot of high-end phones out there, the software is just so much faster.
At the and i bought it, it' ok, but wp8 is missing a lot of things, one of that when i go to music, there's no way to find a single song by typing the name of it, really?
htctouchelfin said:
At the and i bought it, it' ok, but wp8 is missing a lot of things, one of that when i go to music, there's no way to find a single song by typing the name of it, really?
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yes, there are some basic elements missing, however, if you tap on the little squares at the top of each section, it brings up a way to quickly go to a section alphabetically. Hope that helps.
And don't give up on the phone whenever you have a problem, ask and there are a lot of people who can help you out!
Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
To find a single song.
1. Go into media
2. Select music.
3. Swipe right to songs.
4. Then just press letter of song name.
I know its not the quickest, but also not that hard.
stephboyle127 said:
To find a single song.
1. Go into media
2. Select music.
3. Swipe right to songs.
4. Then just press letter of song name.
I know its not the quickest, but also not that hard.
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Not what i was searching for but is ok thanks not dlna in wp8? is there a possibility to have it soon? in next realese maybe
tempted to get an 8X as a potential replacement if/when my S3 suffers the SDS fate. the thing that ticks me off is the fact that the 8S has a micro SD slot and the 8X doesn't.
removable battery is not so bad but i do feel that 16gb isn't a whole lot for a phone nowadays....especially since my S3 has 16 + a 64gb sd card. i could live with 32gb if they every offered it.
EDIT : i have used WP 7.5 before in the past and i like the (formally known as "metro") UI and really like it because it was different to android and iOS at the time.

Similar IPhone Tweaks on S7 Edge

Hey guys,
I just placed an order on Amazon for the International S7 Edge version. I was looking on the xda forum and the Playstore for certain tweaks that will help with the transition from an iPhone 6 Plus to S7. I will admit it's this is overwhelming for me, it's like learning a whole new language.
These are the apps and tweaks that I mostly use on my iPhone. Can you tell me if there is anything similar to these.
- Cydia - All in one app for mods, tweaks, torrent client, etc.
- Protecti+ - Allows me to only show you want I want to show you when someone uses my phone. I can choose to hide apps, pictures, text messages, etc. I can use an command to bring everything back like hitting my home button three times.
- GV Mobile+ - I use this app if I am selling something on Craigslist and I don't want to give out my real phone number. I am able to use a different phone number for texting and calling by using my real number but it's masked with my fake number.
- AppCake - it's a pirated site for crack apps. Just an FYI, I do purchase all of my apps and tweaks through Cydia but I have learned my lesson to try it out before buying.
- TorrentBox - Just an app I use to download torrents.
For torrent Client - flud has no rival.
For torrent search - Use torrent search app from the playstore
For cydia - there are a lot of applets outlet on Android. Do your search when you get your phone.
Protecti+ - Use guest mode on Android or use security apps to hide whatever secret you've got. Your best bet here will be to use the guest mode.
To hide/mask a number, there are a lot of apps that do similar things on Android. You might want to root and discover new ways of doing that. Google search and you'll find virtually all the steps needed to do whatever you want to do to your phone. Make google your friend.
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Thanks for the info. If I root my phone will I still be able to use the finger print login? I hear mix reviews about Samsung pay not and is working with international phones.
JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks for the info. If I root my phone will I still be able to use the finger print login? I hear mix reviews about Samsung pay not and is working with international phones.
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I'm not sure about Pay, but fingerprint will definitely work. Moreover, there is a private mode by default which hides gallery, music, voice recorder and files. If this isn't enough, you can easily find new apps on the play store. Most of them have free versions, so you don't have to buy (at least at first).
If you do root your device, you can install xposed and get almost all the network & location spoofing done. I haven't personally needed an app like GV Mobile+, so I'm not sure about it.
thedisturbedone said:
I'm not sure about Pay, but fingerprint will definitely work. Moreover, there is a private mode by default which hides gallery, music, voice recorder and files. If this isn't enough, you can easily find new apps on the play store. Most of them have free versions, so you don't have to buy (at least at first).
If you do root your device, you can install xposed and get almost all the network & location spoofing done. I haven't personally needed an app like GV Mobile+, so I'm not sure about it.
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Thanks, I'll check out xposed for location spoofing.
Google Voice is great if you don't want to give out your real phone number. You can make calls using a Google number which will call you to your real phone number then once you pick up it will then call the number your trying to call so it only shows that Google phone number not your real number.
I'll checkout Guess Mode. I only hide personal apps like my back account, settings, shopping apps or anything someone can go in and make changes.
Just going through these post on here is crazy. So much to learn. I just hope the auto correct and multi tasking is great on the Samsung. Right now my phone reboots 8 times a day when I
Multitask with my iPhone 6 Plus.
For Cydia equivalent, use Xposed, it works almost the same but you don't need to add source like cydia does.
I don't think we have any AppCake equivalent source/module, but most of the Xposed module came free with a complete feature.
for Torrent, uTorrent on the playstore would do the trick, no need to root, just install it.
pitopika13 said:
For Cydia equivalent, use Xposed, it works almost the same but you don't need to add source like cydia does.
I don't think we have any AppCake equivalent source/module, but most of the Xposed module came free with a complete feature.
for Torrent, uTorrent on the playstore would do the trick, no need to root, just install it.
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Thanks, so xposed is not a location spoofing app but more like a Cydia, gotcha. I am familiar with uTorrent on my PC so that would work.
I don't think I need to root my phone. I am not trying to change the color my my keyboard or make changes to my layout. I just like certain tweaks like different multi-tasking options, hiding apps, location spoofing for apps and much more.
Xposed is what you want. Root using the guide on xda id stick to stock rom for now and flash the xposed files
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Ausboy 2011 said:
Xposed is what you want. Root using the guide on xda id stick to stock rom for now and flash the xposed files
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Thanks,
Do you need to root your phone to load xposed and use tweaks?
Having used appcake I don't think xposed is really equivalent at all. Xposed will give you more control over our os and installing mods. You'd probably want something like blackmart or apptoid which are more similar to appcake. You can find these apks by doing a Google search. Once you download an apk it installs like a normal app. Doing this is called side loading and you have to go into your security settings and check allow from unknown sources.
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JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks,
Do you need to root your phone to load xposed and use tweaks?
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Yes you need root. You will want to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery first thing. They're some great guides on here on how to do that.
Keep in mind, once you root, you'll never get to use Samsung pay, which does work on international devices. Where are you located?
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JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks, I'll check out xposed for location spoofing.
Google Voice is great if you don't want to give out your real phone number. You can make calls using a Google number which will call you to your real phone number then once you pick up it will then call the number your trying to call so it only shows that Google phone number not your real number.
I'll checkout Guess Mode. I only hide personal apps like my back account, settings, shopping apps or anything someone can go in and make changes.
Just going through these post on here is crazy. So much to learn. I just hope the auto correct and multi tasking is great on the Samsung. Right now my phone reboots 8 times a day when I
Multitask with my iPhone 6 Plus.
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Yes. Looks like you've learnt a lot already! And yes, in iPhone terms, xposed is like Cydia
Keyboard, I'll either suggest the Google Keyboard or Switkey. Both are free, so you can try them. Swiftkey has a special mode for the edge screen which is kinda helpful for me, so keys don't overflow to the edges of the screen. And it learns your typing patterns damn well including where you press for each key.
As for multi-tasking, its quite epic with the 4GB of ram. You should be able to do all your work. No reboots at all here!
I hope you have the International variant! Because it has a lot more support and is easily unlockable / rootable. If you do root though, you trip a security switch called Knox. This will harm your validity, which is why Samsung Pay would mostly likely not work (people might find a way around it). But in normal day usage, rooting has no effect whatsoever.
If your banking apps can see that you've rooted and refuse to work, there are modules in Xposed that can help you hide it. So its a negligible.
Anything else?
Thanks guys,
I will mess with the phone this weekend and see what I can come up with. I know it's going to be a learning curve for me but I am sure in the end it will be worth it. If not then I always have my jailbroken iPhone I can use.
Appcake on iOs, Blackmarket on Android. I can get any latest version apps(from the other country) when it still not available for my country. On Appcake you cant update your apps, need to reinstall it (cmiiw)
JoeFromSFO said:
I will admit it's this is overwhelming for me, it's like learning a whole new language.
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And then a handful of people in here goes on to tell you to root and install Xposed. Right. I would NOT root or do any heavy modifications to the device at first. You're coming from an iPhone and Android is completely new to you, so I would recommend you to get to know Android first, and then after a month or so when you've learned how to properly use the thing, then start looking for alternative apps, services, mods etc. Don't look at a product you haven't touched yet and ask your self "how can I improve this?", when you don't know what to even improve.
People around here will, of course, tell you to root, tweak the battery and launch it on a rocket to mars. Don't listen to them. You are however interested in some alternative apps to the one's you used on your iPhone.
- Cydia = Xposed, but the latter is much more powerful, and thus much more dangerous. It's a fun app to use, but it requires root, which will void your warranty, and Samsung Pay will be long gone. It'll trigger KNOX, and your phone will forever be marked as modified. You won't be able to make it completely stock again. Ever. So I would hold off with root and Xposed for now.
- Protecti+ = Private Mode, which you can find in the drop down notification center. You can toggle it on and off there, and you can set photo albums, files etc. to private, and the files will only be visible when you tap the Private Mode-toggle, access it with your fingerprint, and then all the files will be visible in the Gallery, file explorer and so on. When you want to hide it again, just exit Private Mode by tapping the Private Mode-toogle again.
- GV Mobile+ = No idea, but it's a Google Voice number, so I guess there's a solution out there. I don't use it myself, so I don't really have an overview over what's going on in that area.
- AppCake = Piracy is something that is really easy to do on Android, and it's a serious problem for the devs, so please don't do it. The Google Play Store has a refund function, which means that if you buy an app and you're not happy with it, then just tap "Refund". Voila. That's it. You can use the refund-button for about 2 hours after you've bought the app (or more), but you can easily get a refund after a month to if you really want to. The point here is that there's no reason to pirate any app. Pirating an app is also risky, since the APK can be modified with malware and so on. This is literally how malware spreads on Android. Cheap people who can't spend a buck.
- TorrentBox = Flud. Simple as that. It looks great, and it works great.
Again, just use your S7 Edge! Just use it and get used to Android. Are you bothered by something? Alright, it can probably be tweaked. Don't like the default messaging app? Okay, so just install a different one. Don't like the browser? Install a different one. Don't like the look of things? Download a theme or two from the Theme Store. You have no reason to root right now. At all. If you do, I'm sure we'll read a Q&A thread from you soon where something has gone horribly wrong, and you have no idea what to do, since you have no idea how things work
J.biden is 100% right get used to s7 edge before you start playing with tweaks and root.
Once you root you can never go back to complete original firmware as out of the box and you will void warranty. To some including myself that doesn't matter but many it does especially those new to android.
Don't rush it just tske your time.
J.Biden said:
And then a handful of people in here goes on to tell you to root and install Xposed. Right. I would NOT root or do any heavy modifications to the device at first. You're coming from an iPhone and Android is completely new to you, so I would recommend you to get to know Android first, and then after a month or so when you've learned how to properly use the thing, then start looking for alternative apps, services, mods etc. Don't look at a product you haven't touched yet and ask your self "how can I improve this?", when you don't know what to even improve.
People around here will, of course, tell you to root, tweak the battery and launch it on a rocket to mars. Don't listen to them. You are however interested in some alternative apps to the one's you used on your iPhone.
- Cydia = Xposed, but the latter is much more powerful, and thus much more dangerous. It's a fun app to use, but it requires root, which will void your warranty, and Samsung Pay will be long gone. It'll trigger KNOX, and your phone will forever be marked as modified. You won't be able to make it completely stock again. Ever. So I would hold off with root and Xposed for now.
- Protecti+ = Private Mode, which you can find in the drop down notification center. You can toggle it on and off there, and you can set photo albums, files etc. to private, and the files will only be visible when you tap the Private Mode-toggle, access it with your fingerprint, and then all the files will be visible in the Gallery, file explorer and so on. When you want to hide it again, just exit Private Mode by tapping the Private Mode-toogle again.
- GV Mobile+ = No idea, but it's a Google Voice number, so I guess there's a solution out there. I don't use it myself, so I don't really have an overview over what's going on in that area.
- AppCake = Piracy is something that is really easy to do on Android, and it's a serious problem for the devs, so please don't do it. The Google Play Store has a refund function, which means that if you buy an app and you're not happy with it, then just tap "Refund". Voila. That's it. You can use the refund-button for about 2 hours after you've bought the app (or more), but you can easily get a refund after a month to if you really want to. The point here is that there's no reason to pirate any app. Pirating an app is also risky, since the APK can be modified with malware and so on. This is literally how malware spreads on Android. Cheap people who can't spend a buck.
- TorrentBox = Flud. Simple as that. It looks great, and it works great.
Again, just use your S7 Edge! Just use it and get used to Android. Are you bothered by something? Alright, it can probably be tweaked. Don't like the default messaging app? Okay, so just install a different one. Don't like the browser? Install a different one. Don't like the look of things? Download a theme or two from the Theme Store. You have no reason to root right now. At all. If you do, I'm sure we'll read a Q&A thread from you soon where something has gone horribly wrong, and you have no idea what to do, since you have no idea how things work
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Well put JBiden??
I wasn't planing on rooting the phone at first. I need to learn how to switch between apps, learn the settings and learn how to use other functions.
With my iPhone I don't even use custom themes. I just like Protecti+, Intube, Flex2, and TypeStatus.
I only use AppCake to try out paid apps and if it's something I like and does what they claim then I will delete the app and pay for it. But honestly I don't buy that many apps at the App Store because everything I need is free but I do but a bunch of tweaks and apps from Cydia. I just hate it when developers don't update their tweaks.
Can I download custom app switchers / Multi-Tasking tweaks?
Is there Visual voicemail on the International S7 Edge?
JoeFromSFO said:
Thanks, I'll check out xposed for location spoofing.
Google Voice is great if you don't want to give out your real phone number. You can make calls using a Google number which will call you to your real phone number then once you pick up it will then call the number your trying to call so it only shows that Google phone number not your real number.
I'll checkout Guess Mode. I only hide personal apps like my back account, settings, shopping apps or anything someone can go in and make changes.
Just going through these post on here is crazy. So much to learn. I just hope the auto correct and multi tasking is great on the Samsung. Right now my phone reboots 8 times a day when I
Multitask with my iPhone 6 Plus.
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One biggest thing that I am still trying to find a good resolution to is group mms messaging and with pictures video mail. Imessage was great and reliable and didn't compress images and videos.
U should shut off imessage and FaceTime on your iPhone a few days prior to porting that number over to Android.
I also had an issue that if people sent me a text to a thread that was when I had imessage enabled, it didn't go through. I needed to have my family erase and start brand new text messages to me in order to receive them.
I am not sure if any of the 3rd party SMS apps out there work better with group messages, picture mail and videos. I think either one u use, your carrier will compress the file.
Hangouts and whatsapp is only good if everyone installs.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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JoeFromSFO said:
Well put JBiden??
I wasn't planing on rooting the phone at first. I need to learn how to switch between apps, learn the settings and learn how to use other functions.
With my iPhone I don't even use custom themes. I just like Protecti+, Intube, Flex2, and TypeStatus.
I only use AppCake to try out paid apps and if it's something I like and does what they claim then I will delete the app and pay for it. But honestly I don't buy that many apps at the App Store because everything I need is free but I do but a bunch of tweaks and apps from Cydia. I just hate it when developers don't update their tweaks.
Can I download custom app switchers / Multi-Tasking tweaks?
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Typestutus was cool tweak but not something available off imessage platform.
There is also an ad blocker for Samsung browser on playstore that works pretty good.
I miss youtube+ on iPhone as that blocked ads and allowed u to fast forward or rewind ten seconds with a push of a button.
I haven't found a good YouTube replacement on my s7 edge yet that.
I would suggest fooling around with default apps prior to installing 3rd party ones. I used android allot in 2012 and I had a replacement app for all default ones. Coming back to Android especially with Samsung there r big improvements.
I am.currently using the default keyboard and touchwiz. U have all those themes u can download to theme keyboard as well as touchwiz. Touchwiz has many options but.if u still feel that's not enough nova launcher is all I hear about when reading.
I used to love the tweak on iph
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Iphone where u could slide cursor by sliding on keyboard. There is an option with the default keyboard to do that which was surprising.
Amazed how many options default KB has.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
One biggest thing that I am still trying to find a good resolution to is group mms messaging and with pictures video mail. Imessage was great and reliable and didn't compress images and videos.
U should shut off imessage and FaceTime on your iPhone a few days prior to porting that number over to Android.
I also had an issue that if people sent me a text to a thread that was when I had imessage enabled, it didn't go through. I needed to have my family erase and start brand new text messages to me in order to receive them.
I am not sure if any of the 3rd party SMS apps out there work better with group messages, picture mail and videos. I think either one u use, your carrier will compress the file.
Hangouts and whatsapp is only good if everyone installs.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Typestutus was cool tweak but not something available off imessage platform.
There is also an ad blocker for Samsung browser on playstore that works pretty good.
I miss youtube+ on iPhone as that blocked ads and allowed u to fast forward or rewind ten seconds with a push of a button.
I haven't found a good YouTube replacement on my s7 edge yet that.
I would suggest fooling around with default apps prior to installing 3rd party ones. I used android allot in 2012 and I had a replacement app for all default ones. Coming back to Android especially with Samsung there r big improvements.
I am.currently using the default keyboard and touchwiz. U have all those themes u can download to theme keyboard as well as touchwiz. Touchwiz has many options but.if u still feel that's not enough nova launcher is all I hear about when reading.
I used to love the tweak on iph
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Iphone where u could slide cursor by sliding on keyboard. There is an option with the default keyboard to do that which was surprising.
Amazed how many options default KB has.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Thanks for this. I was trying to figure out how to move my curser using the keys on the keyboard. This helps out a lot.
The only thing I am struggling with is finding a way to hide selected apps with a gesture. I have been looking at a bunch of guest mode and privacy apps at the App Store but I don't like them. I also can't find a activator to enable and disable an app.
How can I hide apps and where can o get an activator?
Thanks.

Various questions about Note 10

Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
7. With Mediapad X2 the data roaming was not working – if I have UK sim card and go abroad – mobile data does not work. I hope it does work with Note 10, doesn’t i?
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
Many thanks for your help!
astuntas said:
Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
7. With Mediapad X2 the data roaming was not working – if I have UK sim card and go abroad – mobile data does not work. I hope it does work with Note 10, doesn’t i?
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
Many thanks for your help!
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Hi,
I can only answer 2 questions, as I don't own the device, but looking into the specs, this phone does not have band 20, used by O2 and Vodafone here in the UK, so you will only get 3G+ speeds, Three UK and EE will get 4G+ speeds. Nova Launcher should run just fine, had Huawei/Honor CN models before and Nova launcher was running fine on them.
Still not decided in ordering one, I had the Vivo NEX before and that was just on the limit size wise for me, if you get it, let us know how do get along with it.
Have a good one.
Many thanks for your input. If you or anybody else will have any additional input on these topics please share it. If I will get the phone I will write my feedback as well, at the moment I am not sure what to get ...
1. Notifications work fine for me as long as I go into "settings -> apps" and then individually change the battery setting for each and every desired app. Going into phone manager alone and change app launch permissions is not enough.
3. Works as well as on any other phone I've had.
5. 3G/4G works as intended in bigger citys. In the countryside 4G will suffer and will not be available mostly. I'm in Sweden.
8. I don't see any chinese at all after setting it all up and disabling stuff I don't want.
9. No issues at all. Works just fine.
10. It has a notification light. and the possibility to turn on the screen when notifications arrive. The always on display they have is worthless and only shows time and battery.
dannejanne said:
1. Notifications work fine for me as long as I go into "settings -> apps" and then individually change the battery setting for each and every desired app. Going into phone manager alone and change app launch permissions is not enough.
3. Works as well as on any other phone I've had.
5. 3G/4G works as intended in bigger citys. In the countryside 4G will suffer and will not be available mostly. I'm in Sweden.
8. I don't see any chinese at all after setting it all up and disabling stuff I don't want.
9. No issues at all. Works just fine.
10. It has a notification light. and the possibility to turn on the screen when notifications arrive. The always on display they have is worthless and only shows time and battery.
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Big thanks for your detailed input, highly appreciate your effort.
May I ask you (or anybody else who would be willing to contribute) to to check how well an Open camera/CameraMX work on this phone?
astuntas said:
Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
7. With Mediapad X2 the data roaming was not working – if I have UK sim card and go abroad – mobile data does not work. I hope it does work with Note 10, doesn’t i?
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
Many thanks for your help!
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Got my note 10 from Liaow to Ireland in about 4 days. Nfc payment in stores does not work. Tried everything. Safety net app keeps failing. Google does not play nice with Huawei either. No ability to wake device from screen off or lock screen like my previous Galaxy s8 plus. Google Assistant also will not recognize what's app contacts for voice texts. Google maps location history will not turn on either so it's not possible to share your ongoing location with friends and family. Great phone all the same just wish it played well with Google for the reasons mentioned above.
ScottMaglace said:
Got my note 10 from Liaow to Ireland in about 4 days. Nfc payment in stores does not work. Tried everything. Safety net app keeps failing. Google does not play nice with Huawei either. No ability to wake device from screen off or lock screen like my previous Galaxy s8 plus. Google Assistant also will not recognize what's app contacts for voice texts. Google maps location history will not turn on either so it's not possible to share your ongoing location with friends and family. Great phone all the same just wish it played well with Google for the reasons mentioned above.
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Many thanks for the input. After a lot of thinking I have decided to get Samsung galaxy S9+ instead of Note10. I bought from ebay (used but condition as new for 600£), phone is designed for UK market and still has 18 months of warranty. The main reasons which have driven me away from Honor was that water resistance, local warranty, headphone jack, better camera with OIS and no dust, etc. I also wanted a slightly smaller phone but this wasn't a major factor.
All the best for you Honor users! :angel:
PS I will still keep my Honor X2 for watching news at home etc.
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
It works fine, notifications are displayed
2. In some reviews I have seen that camera support for external apps is limited. Have you tried using Open camera or CameraMx, or other camera apps – what is your experience?
CameraMX and OpenCamera work but do not support all the features of the Note10 (example 60fps video)
3. I want to use Nova launcher – how well does it work on this device? Does it have any glitches?
Nova launcher works fine and the previous version (5.4) also supports forced scroll background)
4. Please comment on Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity – do you ever get any issues?
Never had problems (both 2.4 and 5.8). Excellent signal on both routers and drones
5. Please comment on mobile radio connectivity – did you get any problems with call quality? How well does the internet work 3G / 4G? Does anybody use it in Europe and can comment on this? What are the download / upload speeds that you get? I am in UK
Work well on the two 3G / 4G fronts and switch from one band to another fast
6. How well does the GPS work? Do you have any issues with google maps and/or any other navigations?
GPS is fast. Only problem (perhaps it depends on the CHINESE ROM) does not work the Google Maps history.
8. After selecting English as a menu language – do you still get much Chinese left over in the OS?
Italian version
9. Do you have any issues with google play and any other apps?
No problem with the Google APP and third-party APP
10. Does this phone have a notification light or a possibility to show notifications on the screen when the screen is off?
It should have it, but I do not use it so I can not answer with certainty
In conclusion it is an EXCELLENT phone, I would buy it again.
The only sore point ... Bootloader BLOCKED!
astuntas said:
Hi,
I've had similar concerns before buying my last X2, and xda community was really helpful to clarify a few things. I hope you can help me decide again, I will appreciate your input on the following topics:
1. I have read many times that the OS is killing background apps, therefore gmail, whats app, facebook and other notification do not get received. I have also seen many advices on how to solve it, but some people still have problems. What is your experience with these notifications?
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I've found notifications to be on the whole unreliable unless you go through the various steps to get notifications to come through plus locking the apps in the recent tasks windows (this last part was what worked for me).
Overall though, the experience is nowhere near as bad as the one I had on the Oppo Find X Chinese ROM.
I can also confirm the phone works fine in 4G with EE.
Any of you can play Netflix in HD (no modded apk version) ? It looks like someone can play Neflix only in SD with this device.
Thanks
Anyone know how to get Google assistent to work.
Every time i have set it up, it goes back to start where it tell me to allow it for use [emoji21]
SmartPhonesFan said:
Hi I have Note 10 and has many pluses and some minuses like all smartphones :
1.It is NOT killing apps make sure wifi is always on and mobile data is always on too and notifications are handled auto..
2.Just checked camera MX and works normally as it should
3.Why nova launcher ? u can change home in settings and have home screen style and you will have drawer ..
4.Perfect no issues at all
5.No absolutely no issues perfect quality if u call huawei to huawei u will hear person like is standing next to you ..
6.No gps issues at all all perfect maps all good but BEST app now is WAZE there are cameras warnings , crash warnings , police cars warnings
7.No problems if u enable data roaming all works .. but some sim cards u need to set up APN manually depends of your provider ..
8.No chinese you can remove all of them except app gallery and hi care but when u select your country it will switch to english or your language .
9.No issues with google play only issue with google pay..
10.Ys it has notification light it has always on display clock
Cons :
Problems with google pay - but contacted google chat and they told me to ask for call request and then call bank and make group call and google person will have to speak with bank person .. wil be doing it tomorrow .
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once again, many thanks for such a detailed input, highly appreciate it. However as I mentioned in other thread I have decided to go with samsung s9+, mainly because it is waterproof, has UK warranty, also I was a little afraid seeing these posts with dust in camera. BTW - iris scanner is also a great thing when you want to unlock the phone with gloves on. On the other hand, damn I miss the big keyboard from Honor X2 ...
Anyway, there is no such thing as perfect phone - its always a compromise between different options. But thanks again for detailed review, I am sure it will be useful for other people
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does Barclays backing app work plz

What is your wishlist for future Funtouch/system firmware updates ?

So it looks like Vivo seem to take some what good care about the updates so far and android 9 is promised to be delivered to us for Q4.
So what is your wishlist or recommendation that vivo should work on for future firmware updates ?
I have the chinese version myself and I realize that those with a global version have a vastly different experience then those global users with the Chinese rom.
So Please tell us what you are using also...some of the stuff is fixed in the global version.
Funtouch is getting a lot of criticism for being a iOS look a like, personally I find it not to be a negative thing, transparent UI feels more timeless to me, it looks more modern, while the android vanilla looks to me kind of dated and where not much have happen in the last 5 years. I also like that the design is kind of streamlined, I used textra sms app before but now I think the stock sms app looks better in conjunction with the rest of the UI experience. So I dont mind they dont use material design. I really like the control panel swipe from left button its more ergonomic and smart then swiping from top. I dont like the stock launcher, just as with the other chinese launchers like miui, emui etc I dont like the folders I dont want the folder to pop up in the middle of the screen its just less ergonomic and less easy to reach, that is why I use Rootless Pixel Launcher.
Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.
I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.
I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3
They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.
But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.
They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!
I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.
Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.
It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.
Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.
They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.
Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.
All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.
From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.
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Notifications from external applications are what is missing from the AOD. If not for the smartwatch, I do not know how I could do it without notifications.
I sorry for my English, I use Google Translator.
I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good:
paatha13 said:
Unfortunately I found 3 months now Vivo not listening at all user base customer of their product.
I’ve requested many time contacting through Facebook messenger support to add LDAC support but refuse to implement it saying that’s its hardware related but I know that Google implemented native LDAC support to core Android OS so what’s Vivo says it’s just cheap excuse only.
I told them also that since don’t provide led notifications should provide much more complete always on display feature with unlimited third party app notifications just like many other OEM does like Samsung,LG,HTC,OnePlus and even recently Xiaomi with mi8 and even Sony with XZ3
They always answer that Chinese users don’t use third party app that’s why refuse to provide support to AOD.
But that’s not matter of Chinese or global rom but to provide to all customers as much more complete,functional and customized feature not half baked as do today.
They also told me that I can use flashlight notifications but that works only with incoming calls and SMS!!!!!!
I also suggested if could change the position of control center gesture and make it like iOS 11/12 style swipe down upper right corner.
Current version they are having is iOS 10 style that even Apple has remove it over 2 years.
It’s kind off odd and ridiculous having a feature that neither Apple or all other Android OEM device offer today.
Not to mention the stupid restrictions needed Vivo account with Chinese number to install third party app.
They must understand that Android OS is preferred by user because of its plenty off choices and flexibility offer with freedom off customization to meet our personal needs and preferences.
Also getting pop up messages from time to time that I must replace the home screen launcher is just hilarious or the other stupid red bar color pop up when activate developer option.
All those restrictions has nothing to do with the nature of Android OS.
From the other hand it’s very stable,smooth and reliable the OS provide but they must change 3-4 parameters of their skin and listen more the customer feedback as all we requested is reasonably and logical and not any kind science function.
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I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.
Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?
We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
ruk21201 said:
I'd love the same notification light that's on the oppo find X where the screen illuminates around the edge as we have no notification hardware , I'd also please please please like a black theme like what's on the 1+6 ,, I don't mind funtouch OS coming from the vivo V9 so I'm not looking for anything drastic , just improve performance and maybe overclock and squeeze more Ram for day to day operations even though 8gb is ample (greedy) , oh and maybe try and tinker with the fingerprint scanner as it a little hit and miss, apart from that I'm more than pleased with my purchase. :good:
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If you have performance problem I think it might depend on what permissions you gave to the apps, I did try to give all apps with push notifcations "startup" permission I saw a drastic change in battery life, its this permission I think make it lay constantly in background and talk and syncing with all google apps in background constantly, with it on I got a more "normal" battery life from what I usually get from a phone sold in the west. Be also careful with what apps you give "allow high power consumption in background", in my findings, as long as you have the "autostart" permissions you dont need to have it added in the "allow high power consumption" list if its is chat apps, the only expection here is multimedia apps for video and audio this are the apps that most be added in this list otherwise to break..
When I added "Start up" permission to too many apps I did experience the phone to feel more "heavy" and not as fast...
blackinfinity said:
I would also like more swipe options for navgation, swipe from sides like xiaomi is preferable more ergonomic.
Regarding LDAC , I thought I did read the latest chinese rom got LDAC support if I dont remember wrong ?
We can all agree on the stupid restrictions needing a vivo account to do things, but yeah as long as you live in china I guess its not a problem, problem is global versions dont come with 256 gb so many buy the chinese version just to get the biggest memory model. me included,
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According to Vivo support the software update that supposedly brings support LDAC is fake.
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After latest update Vivo add LDAC support to device.
1.20.5 Chinese version
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/how-to/nex-global-rom-features-compared-to-t3821224/page7
So one major feature lack of Vivo software has been resolved.
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I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
blackinfinity said:
I wish in future updates an ability to turn on and off wisdowm engine, I am consider to disable it in asb...
I still have problems when using chromecast with apps that the apps shuts down while it chromecast, the video stream is intact to the tv but I have to re open the app all the time.
I think it is wisdom engine to blame, which I am
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I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.
It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.
When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.
I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.
To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.
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I'm all about the battery life. Even the battery is good got around 9h sot I'd like it to be more like 10-11h of sot. Everything else is solid.
paatha13 said:
I don’t recommend disable wisdoms engine as you will have notifications issues from various app plus widget from app doesn’t work properly on notifications center.
It keeps disappearing after few minutes put phone to standby.
When re open the screen after a while and it’s gone.
I’ve had to made hard reset to restore wisdom engine and setup the phone from beginning.
To me wisdom engine does not cause any kind issue with my working scenario.
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Thanks for the information I did read some other person who did disable wisdom engine without any problems but now I will not consider to disable it...
the main items on my wishlist:
- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp
- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo
- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60
- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.
Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.
So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.
Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
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paatha13 said:
Keep I’m mind everyone that every missing feature you want or any kind improvements ask you should all talked directly via social media channel Facebook messenger etc.
Vivo representatives don’t read XDA at all neither support team.
So it’s good idea mention over here,but all of you should talk directly with them.
Only by giving feedback directly they gone listen and maybe workaround issues having with our phones.
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i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:
hamdir said:
i am using the included feedback app as if i am a vivo tester :laugh:
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I prefer more personalized communication with them so talking with them only via messenger support
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hamdir said:
the main items on my wishlist:
- Fix WhatsApp Voice Messages mic volume, i know the mic is very loud and clear from the stock sound recorder but WhatsApp seem to be applying aggressive noise cancellation which is muting the volume, usually the OEM can take care of such a problem instead of WhatsApp
- Camera needs a lot of work, color balance is way off, tinted in low light and detail is killed to hell, they need to rethink their camera app processing, apply proper AUTO HDR multi-frame stacking and detail extraction like Google and HTC does, right now the camera hardware is killed by a trashy processing, thankfully GCam port of the pixel 3 is here to rescue but it still good to be addressed by Vivo
- Camera app missing 1080p60 and 4k60
- Re-theme their iOS like UI, yes copying the functionality of iOS is not a bad thing especially when its so well done and rock solid like it's done here, but copying the exact same look of those apps is not okay and they should at least offer an alternative global theme
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When I look at my global version of my vivo NEX S I don't see or feel an IOS device maybe change your launcher, this is android you have a choice.

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