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[APP][4.0.3+] Carbon Tweaks Installer V5.2 (Reloaded. Im Back.) [13/03/13]

Paid Version Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=carbon.assassin.tweaks
Free Version Link: http://www.carbonapplications.com/carbon-tweaks.html
Root access is needed!
Current Premium Version: V5.2
Current Lite (Ad Supported) Version: V5.1.1
Love One-Click Install? You'll love this app!
This is a simple app that will allow for easier installation of tweaks to speed up your system as well as adding other useful apps and Library's in a oneclick fashion.
This is a app i developed to help myself learn to code so please give me your opinions and there may be bits in the ui that don't fit on your phone (I designed it on a Galaxy Note). Any Feedback really is appreciated and even if one person finds this useful i will consider it a success
Main Features:
Designed for the Galaxy Note
Ability to Backup and Restore the init.d folder
Easy install of:
jBroid
Bravia Engine
All Galaxy Note Modems (18 in total)
ultimateRAMmanager
Beats Audio Library
AdBlocker
Dolby Sound Library
Carbon Booster
Other General Tweaks that AlignZips on boot (Only does this on unaligned zips) and boosts 3G speeds.
Current Bug List:
AdBlocker will NOT show up in the currently installed list .
Fill out a Bug Form here to help improve the app!
Please clear the init.d folder before using this app (You are able to do this in the settings part of the app)
Some Tweaks will take time to settle so remember you will not reach full performance for a few uses and boots. You should however notice a medium boost straight away which will improve with time.
Please comment and let me know what you think!
V1 of the app was released 18/5/2012
Want a good photo to test the bravia engine with? Use this!
ALL items on the second page require you to be connected to the internet! All items on the first page are contained within the apk and are offline installs.
I get Antutu scores of 6700 on the galaxy note running CM9 (This is with the sd read and write not being as high as they usually are for some reason, usually >50mb read)
Coming soon:
Compatibility checks
More scripts.
Improved InApp Icons (Some of them aren't great i know)
Smart Stay (Attempting to port)
ICS reloaded task bar (currently broken by CM9 nightly builds 18 and up so the addition of this has been suspended.)
Xloud (Addition of this has been suspended due to reports it can damage your speakers, Further reading is required)
50gb Dropbox free apk
Smurfed out script
Progress of next update:
30% done
Current Size of next update:
Unknown
Currently finished for next update:
Layout system completely revamped to dynamically scale (Prep for multi device)
Updated Hosts file for the ad blocker. (Great improvement in quantity of ads blocked)
Change Log:
Carbon Tweaks Premium 5.2:
Complete Revamp of entire layout system.
Some JB compatibility updates
JBroid removed due to being unstable
S2 Compatibility added and other device.
Fixed FC on no root. Proper warning now displayed
Carbon Tweaks Premium V5.1.3
Removal of old stuff.
Bugfix (Option 9 will now work in carbon booster).
Warning Message on Modems.
Carbon Tweaks Premium V5.1.2
Fixed Internal Update Bug.
General Optimization.
Carbon Tweaks Lite V5.1.1:
Ad network changed.
Updated to match all features of V5.1.1 Excluding Installed Item Checker.
Some Optimization.
Carbon Tweaks Premium V5.1.1
Removed items due to copyright and discussion with devs.
Carbon Tweaks Premium V5.1:
Changed to paid file hosting due to Blownco having to shut down his server
Carbon Tweaks Premium V5:
Added clearer background,
Added The ability to check whats installed
Smaller Apk
Optimizations
Small Gui Tweaks
Complete optimization of the app. Apk size cut down to 2.6mb
Updated ThunderBolt (For all app versions)
Carbon Tweaks 4.5
Added jBroid Engine
Fixed FC Issues (Definatly)
Reduced update check time
Added version number on splash screen
Optimized .png files for faster loading and a smaller Apk
Improved Bravia Engine Compatibility
Carbon Tweaks V4.2
Increased Compatibility so there should be less issues!
Minor Fix's
Added Ads (I'm sorry!) If you have donated PM me to receive a Ad Deactivating Code! But remember your are helping to support the development of this app!
Fixed FC Issue
Carbon Tweaks V4
Added Connectivity and Download checks to make sure files are downloaded correctly.
Extra Root Checks and new notifications if app doesn't have root access .
New file hosting
New Icon!
Added ThunderBolt Booster
Added Internal Donate Button
Very Minor GUI Adjustments (Aligning a few things)
Added splash screen which automatically checks for updates.
Added Preferences Menu (Press your menu Hardware Button)
Carbon Tweaks V3.5
Added 18 note modems.
Added Current Modem.
Added Bravia Engine.
Added Internal Updating (Find it in settings).
Carbon Tweaks V2.9
Removed some conflicting tweak values.
Temporarily removed S-Suite sue to the large amount of bugs!
Carbon Tweaks V2.8
Added Touchwiz for CM9 and AKOP Roms
Fixed S-Voice Bug
Fixed Reboot for Sounds bug.
Fixed signature error on Touchwiz
Carbon Tweaks V2.7
Working download services.
S3 Suite Added.
AdBlocker.
New transitions between pages (looks pretty xd).
Second menu page.
Fixed patching bug.
Carbon Tweaks V2:
Added settings menu
Added ability to Backup, Restore and Clear init.d folder
Added automated backup of services.jar when using services.jar patcher
Added ability to restore pre patched services.jar
Carbon Tweaks V1.5:
New GUI!
Ability to uninstall tweaks added!
Added the Dolby Sound Library!
Updated Descriptions of in app tweaks!
Carbon Tweaks V1.1:
Replaced V6 Supercharger for Carbon Booster (Work in the same kinda way)
Replaced Missing Script
Fixed in app download bug
Majority of problems seem to be on Stock Ics! You NEED a custom Kernal!.
Want it for GingerBread? Find the GingerBread Beta here!
Due to the nature of tweaks you may get a decrease for a few days! Please be patient! In my experience benchmarking becomes unreliable when using tweaks such as these!

Nice app mister!
I hope for more tweeks included in future!

eliashadow said:
Nice app mister!
I hope for more tweeks included in future!
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thanks will be adding more stuff soon, I'll also start working on the UI a bit more. Any feedback you have is really appreciated
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

I have to say that it looks very promising! Very good, Maybe you should add it to the Market after tweaking the GUI and adding more tweaks, try to keep it for the GNote for now so you can add more COMPATIBLE tweaks, also you should add SGSIII apps like S Voice and flipboard

Hell Guardian said:
I have to say that it looks very promising! Very good, Maybe you should add it to the Market after tweaking the GPU and adding more tweaks, try to keep it for the GNote for now so you can add more COMPATIBLE tweaks, also you should add SGSIII apps like S Voice and flipboard
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Yeah I have loads of features and ideas that I'm going to add. Adding S Voice is a really good suggestion and I will put it in soon. Thanks for the nice comments
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

There's no way it would ever be allowed in the market considering the Beats inclusion. That's proprietary and licensed.
That being said, when development moves further ahead on Bravia engine for Note, maybe include that in the future?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

rlaw said:
There's no way it would ever be allowed in the market considering the Beats inclusion. That's proprietary and licensed.
That being said, when development moves further ahead on Bravia engine for Note, maybe include that in the future?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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I think if I keep it off the market then I'll have a much wider range of stuff I can put in, and I'll look into the bravia engine. I mean the more in this app the better. I'm going to be updating really regularly so the suggestions are great!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

rlaw said:
There's no way it would ever be allowed in the market considering the Beats inclusion. That's proprietary and licensed.
That being said, when development moves further ahead on Bravia engine for Note, maybe include that in the future?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Good point!
Also bravia Engine would be great, Stuff like xLoud and Dolby Sound would also be amazing, i'm already excited about this ^__^

Once I start to add more stuff I'll add compatibility checks so stuff doesn't mess with other stuff, but at the moment everything is compatible with each other I will try this week to add the Dolby and xloud stuff in as well as improve the GUI because I know it needs doing XD
Sent from my GT-N7000 running CM9

Beautiful responsive screen and really smooth scrolling .Need to see battery temperature while using few apps and battery life. (LPF + root)

GREAT!!
Was looking for ways to 'V6 Supercharger' and '3G Turbocharger' for N7k since.. months. Thank you so much: you brought to me a very help!
You'll make it even more perfect by adding an 'UNDO'/'RESTORE TO BEFORE' per-tweak button.
I think that would turn your app into a more complete app.
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Also there should be a button to clear init.d (for this is the first recommandation in OP).

Look promising..Thanks in advance
V6 Supercharger & Beats Audio Library..etc.
Are there any option to uninstall/undo/reversible after you have flash it?

now this is a very interesting project, looking forward
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

Thanks for your work!
I'm not able to download services.jar after uploading. Any help would be great
Thanks in advance.

Currently on stock LPF, can I install this tweak?

You Read OP?
aezv said:
Currently on stock LPF, can I install this tweak?
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You did read OP right? And You do know what he meant by 4.0.3+ right? And you know what is KKA LC2 LPY LPF right?

V good app mate! Well done! I like the interface of the app.. You could make it look more like ICS themed And all the tweaks u mentioned ..not gonna add any at the moment lol

lewisteo said:
You did read OP right? And You do know what he meant by 4.0.3+ right? And you know what is KKA LC2 LPY LPF right?
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Of course I did read OP. I am referring 4.0.3 LPF.

Which is
aezv said:
Of course I did read OP. I am referring 4.0.3 LPF.
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Which is why I asked those questions ???

dbjc said:
GREAT!!
Was looking for ways to 'V6 Supercharger' and '3G Turbocharger' for N7k since.. months. Thank you so much: you brought to me a very help!
You'll make it even more perfect by adding an 'UNDO'/'RESTORE TO BEFORE' per-tweak button.
I think that would turn your app into a more complete app.
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Also there should be a button to clear init.d (for this is the first recommandation in OP).
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Thanks for the suggestion and will try to add it soon. I agree its something that it could use
Sent from my GT-N700 running CM9 and Carbon Tweaks

Bare Bones Touchwiz rom?

Hi, I was just wondering if there was a touchwiz rom that had everything that is replaceable via app store removed. But it keeps all core functions working (ie: status bar functions, lock screen functions, etc) I love the way touchwiz works, but it's slow, too slow. I have tried AOSP roms, and I get worse signal in all of them on various radios, plus I like the camera app better. If anyone knows of a rom like this, or can tell me what apps to remove from a stock rom to create it. That would be great, thanks!

Comet1966 said:
Hi, I was just wondering if there was a touchwiz rom that had everything that is replaceable via app store removed. But it keeps all core functions working (ie: status bar functions, lock screen functions, etc) I love the way touchwiz works, but it's slow, too slow. I have tried AOSP roms, and I get worse signal in all of them on various radios, plus I like the camera app better. If anyone knows of a rom like this, or can tell me what apps to remove from a stock rom to create it. That would be great, thanks!
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I've been working on debloating my own rom, but I just haven't had time lately. There is a list of apps safe to remove floating around here, and there is also a flashable debloat tool, too. So far I have my rom down to about 800 mb.

metalfan78 said:
I've been working on debloating my own rom, but I just haven't had time lately. There is a list of apps safe to remove floating around here, and there is also a flashable debloat tool, too. So far I have my rom down to about 800 mb.
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Alright, thank ya, can I get a link to your latest build?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3060106
[ROM]MetalROM_5.0_OA6_v1.4.1 (6-2-15)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3043479
URWsoft Barebone Cleaner [v.5.9.5] for [TW 5.0.x ROMs] Profile based Extreme Debloat

Oreo vs Nougat

Guys whom have updated, is it any better?
Any key differences

after updating to OREO everything works fine for me.
nothing is missed.
big differences:
* newer security patch level and better battery performance
* (and if it should work: ) project treble
BTW:
dirty over vs. new installation = in most cases it seems to make no differences (my experience)
:good:

Better multitasking, smoother transitions, menus are changed a little bit but overall it looks almost the same as emui 7. There are a lot of under the hood improvements such as notification settings better memory management and battery life.

Visually it's different (because new Android version).
What I found is that the lockscreen notifications for audio and video players have a visual bug - the controls are slightly off to the right so the 'next' button goes over the thumbnail and is hard to see.

Definitely better battery life. Don't really care for the new System settings layout but who cares, you only use it rarely? Never use stock launchers, so again who cares? Other than that it is great.

Better battery life for me ! All is working great.

Thanks gents

Still on the beta 321 version (567 US version)...STILL WAITING
But, the 321 version for me is stable

Oreo has all better things compared to Nougat except custom rom and magisk as well as xposed. It has only root with SuperSU, not enough for me. Will come back to Oreo later if Xposed is compatible

lemonade747 said:
Oreo has all better things compared to Nougat except custom rom and magisk as well as xposed. It has only root with SuperSU, not enough for me. Will come back to Oreo later if Xposed is compatible
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What are you using xposed for may I ask.
I used to run magisk to get YouTube ad free and ad blocker but there are ways around that now

sutty86 said:
What are you using xposed for may I ask.
I used to run magisk to get YouTube ad free and ad blocker but there are ways around that now
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I use xposed for many reasons as well as functions cuz no phone is perfect. And with xposed I can transform my phone to its hidden perfect mode lol It contains wide range of useful modules so it always make you feel interested in exploring and enjoying.

I am experiencing a few little issues that I am hoping will be addressed soon, though to be fair I think the problem is because of EMUI 8. Main problem is some of my widgets wont update. Oreo has some little features like app shortcuts which are cool but I wouldnt rush to upgrade.

MIUI 10 VS Android Pie

Hello everyone, I am looking everywhere to find a proper review of the MIUI 10 VS android Pie experience but no where i could find. Previously I did participate in some thread to ask similar question but I guess it is not in depth enough and it is not accessible to everyone, so here I would like to do a simple comparison between the 2 OS that I have been using so far. To be fair to developer, I would not mention which custom rom I am on for those as on both, i dont face any major bug that will break as daily driver. AFAIK, everything works fine in both MIUI 10 and Android Pie.
1.)Battery
- this is the most well discussed topic in all ROM. So i will put it as the first topic. From my experience of using both. MIUI 10 have better idle battery time and also usage time. People reporting android Pie have much higher SOT but from my experience. Nop. But of course, one thing i notice obviously is how consistent the Pie drain battery. Unlike MIUI10, it can stay at the 90-100 mark for long time, but then when it drops down to 80+ it will drain quick until 30-50% and then start showing slower drain again. Im not sure is it MIUI 10 done it purposely so people will have that placebo effect of "great battery life", but after all, the final SOT and idle time still show longer time in MIUI 10.
Winner: MIUI 10
2.) User friendliness
- MIUI gesture
Swipe up from bottom to back home. Swipe left or right from edge to Back, Swipe up and hold for like 0.5s for recent. then finally, swipe longer and hold for previous apps.
- the good: It is ergonomic, fast, seamless, and never ONE time failed me.
- the bad: especially in youtube or any landscape mode apps, the gesture will mess up sometimes, sometimes instead of following the screen rotation, it stays in the portrait mode of gesture, but sometimes it DOES change accordingly to the screen rotation. Plus if landscape + fullscreen video. 50% of the time I mess up on the gesture. but it dont takes more than 2 tries to get it correct.
Pie's Pill gesture
middle still act as home button. left navigation still act as back button, but with the missing recent button. It switched to the swipe up of the pill to get you to the recent screen. And by holding and sliding left and right on the pill will allow you to scroll around all your apps just like how you Alt-tabbing your window apps.
- the good: you can copy words/sentence from one page of the the pill pull up to another page. The page is not only a graphical image of your last used apps, but you can interact with the content within. Also the swipe up for recent had gotten faster and easier now to switch between apps. From my usage, switching between apps has become effortless with Pie, slightly ahead of MIUI 10 in this segment.
- the bad: the pill left and right sliding seems like a gimmick to me, I don't use it as often as it seems the recent will do the job. The pill left/right sliding require your finger to be on the screen all the time while sliding, and then release to the apps you landed. The problem here is that you don't often land at the right spot, it scrolls fast sometimes, and the other times, its skipping app to app, one by one.
Winner: MIUI 10
3.) Exclusively Features
- Digital Wellbeing by Pie
This is the best awesome thing I can say happened to Pie. Many of us here are obsessed with our phone. Picking up almost every second our mind went blank or free for a second in our daily life. Digital Wellbeing is one of the apps that I hope it will be matured one day enough to allow us to use our phone in a mindful state. Not to be obsessed with it but not to throw it all together to get left behind the technology.
- Remote control by MIUI
The next best thing that I can do with my Redmi note 5 (whyred) is with the IR, i can control most home appliances like my TV and aircond. Which further improve the minimalism of my dream home because I manage to hide and keep all the controller in the drawer and control all with just my phone. And this is where MIUI did great at. Maybe there are 3rd party apps that function the same, but i dont bother to search one for it as the xiaomi build in one are just great.
- Google feed by Pie/oreo
This is the second most visited place for me in my phone. the google feed, I love reading article, update with newest update, world news, etc.... and this just made my life so much easier. Just scroll the the left of my phone and there i got it. LOVE
- vault by MIUI
The previous MIUI 9 i am using, have integrated (seems of) google feed in the app vault. It function the same by scrolling to the left of your homescreen but ever since I update to MIUI 10. the google feed is gone and no where to be found or make it available. I have tried many way but no. So the temporary solution is to place a shortcut of Goggle app on the home screen. Which is quite pain in the eyes to me.
-Drawer
Speaking of home screen minimalism. MIUI 10 do not offer drawer, while Pie does. So to make a clean and minimalist homescreen with Pie is just a breeze. But not that bad on MIUI 10 either. I group 4 folder. Junk, Google app, Tools, Daily. and just with 4 folder my MIUI 10 is clean. But of course I prefer one with drawer. After some understanding of the MIUI 10 gesture that I love of, it make sense that a slide up drawer like the Orea/Pie will not be able to work fluently. SO ya, we have to sacrifice something else to get the thing we want more.
-Alarm
This is a small issue here. Both winner here on MIUI 10 and Pie. Why? Because MIUI 10 has a smart alarm, which give me gentle wake comparing to those old school alarm we got. The smart alarm offered by MIUI 10 is great and amazing. First, it plays soft music, then it will report the current time, today's weather, and remind you to be happy today. (all spoken in chinese). Yes I am chinese so I understand what it says. I cant find anywhere else to change setting for the smart alarm (language, type, sound, etc) So I will assume it only speak chinese for now. XD
While at the same time, Pie implemented a new clock that the alarm is sync with spotify! Here, I can make one playlist, with all gentle wake up music as my alarm, so my alarm will not sound the same anymore. It's very difficult to comment which is better alarm here. MIUI 10 alarm give me a smile on my wake up time. and the weather today, so I know how i need to wear to my office. while the Pie one give me a fresh new alarm everyday.
-Clock
A quick one here, the clock in Pie remain the same except the alarm+spotify, but the clock in MIUI 10 almost got a complete overhaul. The timer especially, have a build in Zen function to me. You can choose the sound to play thruout the timer you set from Campfire, sea breeze, to forest sound.... Which is a very fast and simple companion apps for me to practice my meditation.... very very very practical to me. Not at all a gimmick feature
Winner: Both, I wish there is a rom that I can mix and match with aroma and to get the best out of both world. Both have their own signature here. especially the Pie with their new Digital wellbeing.
4.) Responsiveness
-First, I don't like to compare the "free available ram". For me this is bs. The ram is there for a reason and the purpose of ram to be there is for you to store temporary memory, so why clear or why you need to have a lot of "free available ram"? Those are unused memory and its just a waste. So as long you are using your phone and your ram still able to cope with your number of "active app" opened .... then you are good to go.
- The responsiveness I am talking here is the buttery and fluidity of the phone. The scrolling seems to be a tad bit smoother in MIUI 10. But the animation of Android Pie is unbeatable. The moment you pull up the recent with the pill, and select any apps, the apps just trigger and fire up seamlessly almost like instant. You still see tiny stutter in MIUI 10 edge gesture especially if you pull up to return to home gesture.
Winner: Still MIUI 10, because of how buttery it is scrolling social apps like insta or facebook.
REMEMBER... this is not a bias review nor an 100% accurate review. It is all base on my personal experience. I have been flashing and trying rom and kernel since many years ago, and I know much or less, and I know what thing is BS and what not. Currently I am still on Pie, but seems like Masik just release their new Masik X. I am very eagerly to jump back to MIUI 10.
For your info. Im a die hard fan of pure android, since the samsung galaxy nexus, to nexus 4, the redmi note 3, and now note 5. I swear by how much I love pure android experience. But today, MIUI 10 is really catching up the game. Be open minded.

Just gonna put this here for y'all

That screenshot !
Which ROM are you running on with such a mammoth screen on time

WorstNightmare said:
Which ROM are you running on with such a mammoth screen on time
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PE pie with derp 2.6.
P.S Its still going

LeekGeek said:
PE pie with derp 2.6.
P.S Its still going
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77175633&postcount=111 I have achieved 12hours of SOT in MIUI
If we do WiFi browsing we can achieve 10+ hours SOT easily but if we do 4G browsing then it is not possible to achieve 10+hours SOT
With 4G browsing maximum I have achieved is 8hours SOT

LeekGeek said:
PE pie with derp 2.6.
P.S Its still going
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Thanks for showing the image. My review is not to beat out one of those. I love both of it but some bit from each of them. But from your image, i think it will be misleading if you dont explain clearly. SOT depend on usage a lot. it varies from user to user. Plus it depends on ur signal strength on both wifi and 4g. and from your picture, it seems that you are not on your data. and probably thats is the reason you have strong battery life.

SunilSuni said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77175633&postcount=111 I have achieved 12hours of SOT in MIUI
If we do WiFi browsing we can achieve 10+ hours SOT easily but if we do 4G browsing then it is not possible to achieve 10+hours SOT
With 4G browsing maximum I have achieved is 8hours SOT
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I agree with this post. Much more informative. Else it can mislead many newbie and newcomer who dive into the world of flashing and tweaking.

kuance said:
Thanks for showing the image. My review is not to beat out one of those. I love both of it but some bit from each of them. But from your image, i think it will be misleading if you dont explain clearly. SOT depend on usage a lot. it varies from user to user. Plus it depends on ur signal strength on both wifi and 4g. and from your picture, it seems that you are not on your data. and probably thats is the reason you have strong battery life.
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Its mixed usage.. when I'm out I use 4g signal is low to medium its never excellent.
Used 4g for like 3-5 hrs

LeekGeek said:
Its mixed usage.. when I'm out I use 4g signal is low to medium its never excellent.
Used 4g for like 3-5 hrs
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thanks for the info. It's logical if that is the case. Normally some user like me have 4g on mostly all of the time which ranging from 25-35 hours of phone usage per charge.

For me:
- Pie better: battery, temperatures, smoothness, memory management
- Miui 10 better: features ( remote, dual apps, VoLTE, dual 4G, themes... ), mobile signal, stability, stock camera, some Miui based Rom has good enough customizable

Zanr Zij said:
For me:
- Pie better: battery, temperatures, smoothness, memory management
- Miui 10 better: features ( remote, dual apps, VoLTE, dual 4G, themes... ), mobile signal, stability, stock camera, some Miui based Rom has good enough customizable
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Im just curious how everyone say Pie got better battery. Mind to share experience? I tried both. clean flash, no root, no magisk. same apps and same usage pattern. Both battery seems similar to me with MIUI 10 idle drain seems much significantly better than Pie.

Zanr Zij said:
For me:
- Pie better: battery, temperatures, smoothness, memory management
- Miui 10 better: features ( remote, dual apps, VoLTE, dual 4G, themes... ), mobile signal, stability, stock camera, some Miui based Rom has good enough customizable
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Mobile signal should be the same in all the roms (same modem if we want to stay in arb3). However MIUI is more optimist with the indicator.

Otarie004 said:
Mobile signal should be the same in all the roms (same modem if we want to stay in arb3). However MIUI is more optimist with the indicator.
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It's possible to update the modem while your on arb3, without updating the bootloader itself so you can stay on arb3. People on arb4 modems would be all different depending on which update there currently on.

Otarie004 said:
Mobile signal should be the same in all the roms (same modem if we want to stay in arb3). However MIUI is more optimist with the indicator.
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Maybe it just indicator. I will try again next time. With me after updated to latest Bootloader, phone seem perform a bit better. Older Bootloader useless for me because I will never lookback ARB3 fimrware.
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Alister. said:
It's possible to update the modem while your on arb3, without updating the bootloader itself so you can stay on arb3. People on arb4 modems would be all different depending on which update there currently on.
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You can update modem only
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kuance said:
Im just curious how everyone say Pie got better battery. Mind to share experience? I tried both. clean flash, no root, no magisk. same apps and same usage pattern. Both battery seems similar to me with MIUI 10 idle drain seems much significantly better than Pie.
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Nothing special for me: format, wipe all, flash Rom + Magisk, restore apps by Titanium Backup, using L Speed to get better Doze

Zanr Zij said:
Maybe it just indicator. I will try again next time. With me after updated to latest Bootloader, phone seem perform a bit better. Older Bootloader useless for me because I will never lookback ARB3 fimrware.
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You can update modem only
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Nothing special for me: format, wipe all, flash Rom + Magisk, restore apps by Titanium Backup, using L Speed to get better Doze
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If you mean the icon that represents the signal strength, in android they can be flawed and aren't reliable indicators, need to look at SIM status where it says Signal strength -108 dBm 32 asu that's an accurate number.
Not sure if that's what you meant, yeah modem, and dsp, and bluetooth can all update without the bootloader. :good:

Plus if landscape + fullscreen video. 50% of the time I mess up on the gesture. but it dont takes more than 2 tries to get it correct. @kuance in fullscreen setting there is a option, during fullscreen video or game gesture require two swipe to take effect that maybe the reason

SunilSuni said:
Plus if landscape + fullscreen video. 50% of the time I mess up on the gesture. but it dont takes more than 2 tries to get it correct. @kuance in fullscreen setting there is a option, during fullscreen video or game gesture require two swipe to take effect that maybe the reason
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Yes, thats the reason but i do not want to turn that off because i need to secure my video experience just in case i accidentally swipe it off.

@kuance well mate, I totally agree with you. I was a huge Nexus fan but I have to admit that Google has lost is way. Google gesture are ridiculous, they have simply redisigned the old navbar. No gesture at all, no full screen use, no killer feature compared to other OEM.
I would like to consider also security of a rom, and Xiaomi is pretty quick in merging monthly security update.
I have bought whyred to run Los or other custom rom, but I can just say that now I can't find any good reason to change MIUI 10 with any other rom in xda. And it's just because MIUI 10 is simply amazing.
I think that sooner or later Xiaomi wil be involved in some privacy issue, cause I'm pretty sure that a lot of user info are sended to Xiaomi servers. But I'm not an idiot, and I know very well that using a smartphone, any Smartphone, your privacy simply does not exist.

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@kuance well mate, I totally agree with you. I was a huge Nexus fan but I have to admit that Google has lost is way. Google gesture are ridiculous, they have simply redisigned the old navbar. No gesture at all, no full screen use, no killer feature compared to other OEM.
I would like to consider also security of a rom, and Xiaomi is pretty quick in merging monthly security update.
I have bought whyred to run Los or other custom rom, but I can just say that now I can't find any good reason to change MIUI 10 with any other rom in xda. And it's just because MIUI 10 is simply amazing.
I think that sooner or later Xiaomi wil be involved in some privacy issue, cause I'm pretty sure that a lot of user info are sended to Xiaomi servers. But I'm not an idiot, and I know very well that using a smartphone, any Smartphone, your privacy simply does not exist.
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Yo bro, im glad that someone understand the intention of me doing this comparison. I am not here to bash how bad Android Pie is or whatever bad thing it has. As I said, i am a die hard fan of nexus and pure android experience. I remembered my Redmi note 3 pro. The first day I unbox my phone is also the first day I switch to pure android. In the meantime, trying to switch to MIUI trying to "give a chance" to the so called "bloated" OS.... I cant. I give up, and still back to pure android. But it's different today. It seems that the chinese has closed the gap (if not ahead) of what their big brother is doing now... Cheers.
ps: i still hope Google did something amazing like what they have in the past. Well, the new digital wellbeing is great.... and thats all.... even the smart alarm from MIUI 10 is amazing. But that's special case for me because I know that theres not a lot of chinese here.

Why Aren't Custom Roms Devs Doing This?

So far, I have installed over 9 custom roms, and none of them has Dark Mode for Messages & Phone apps. (except OOS port)
devs have been focusing on dark theme all across the device, yet not a single rom has dark messages & phone app.
And no, downloading Phone & messages from google play isn't a solution.
Is it actually difficult to implement?

IIABODEII said:
So far, I have installed over 9 custom roms, and none of them has Dark Mode for Messages & Phone apps. (except OOS port)
devs have been focusing on dark theme all across the device, yet not a single rom has dark messages & phone app.
And no, downloading Phone & messages from google play isn't a solution.
Is it actually difficult to implement?
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Of the 9 custom ROMs you have tried, did you try flashing Pixel Experience? The stock Messages app can be set to Dark Mode. The Phone app automatically becomes dark when you set dark mode on PE.
I think it's also implemented in other custom ROMs, and MIUI has it in their beta.
A simple use of your Google-fu will lead you to Substratum, which themes ROMs
Also, devs have their own timetables that we should respect. If the frameworks they work with don't allow it, then you should probably politely ask and wait for them. Before asking them if it is difficult, ask yourself if you have Google-d enough or used the search bar at XDA more.
Please check your custom ROMs CAREFULLY. Or maybe try Pixel Experience.
Hope that helps.

Did you even flash GApps?

IIABODEII said:
So far, I have installed over 9 custom roms, and none of them has Dark Mode for Messages & Phone apps. (except OOS port)
devs have been focusing on dark theme all across the device, yet not a single rom has dark messages & phone app.
And no, downloading Phone & messages from google play isn't a solution.
Is it actually difficult to implement?
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Ow man Just flash Pixel Experience ROM for Poco

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Of the 9 custom ROMs you have tried, did you try flashing Pixel Experience?
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Yes I have. Great effort by the devs but definitely the worst experience a user will have if they want any type of customization.
I came to the Poco from Pixel 2 xl and I had the pixel for only month and sold it because of its terrible UI. why? because what kind of software makers take a step back when improving a software? for as far as i remember, the recents clear button has always been .25 second away from clicking the recents button. But Pixel UI went out of their way to make the clear button at the end of the list and you have to swipe through all your recent apps to hit that button! OOS and MIUI kept the button on the same place where it was in Oreo, except Pixel!
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The stock Messages app can be set to Dark Mode. The Phone app automatically becomes dark when you set dark mode on PE.
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Same can happen in other custom roms if I download the messaging and phone apps from google play
My question was the stock messaging and phone app on the custom roms
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A simple use of your Google-fu will lead you to Substratum, which themes ROMs
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I know about substratum but why would a user who installs a custom rom need a third-party app to theme stock messaging and phone apps when they should be dark by default when enabling dark mode all cross the device?
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Also, devs have their own timetables that we should respect. If the frameworks they work with don't allow it, then you should probably politely ask and wait for them. Before asking them if it is difficult, ask yourself if you have Google-d enough or used the search bar at XDA more.
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I do respect their timetables. And I have no idea whether the framework allows, hence why I started this thread to have input from different people.
Why do you sound annoyed by me asking if it's difficult? you know a developer can come to this thread and literally say yes its difficult and that would be enough to know why the idea is not being implemented.
And trust me, I googled enough and used the search bar.
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Please check your custom ROMs CAREFULLY. Or maybe try Pixel Experience.
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I have checked my ROM's CAREFULLY, just like I have been doing since 2011.
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Hope that helps.
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Thanks for your input

djdelarosa25 said:
Did you even flash GApps?
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Yes?

armuttaqin said:
Ow man Just flash Pixel Experience ROM for Poco
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don't understand why people call the PE a custom rom when nothing about it is custom

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don't understand why people call the PE a custom rom when nothing about it is custom
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In the context of the Poco F1 (or any other phone that is not the Pixel 1/2/3/3a and XLs for that matter), Pixel Experience is a custom ROM for these reasons:
Pixel Experience is not a GSI image that we just put in Pocophone. It also has its code based off Lineage with Pixel sources too (and with CAF, Qualcomm-specific code).
Try flashing MIUI stock straight on top of PE. You'll see lots of errors, simply because the frameworks are different. Stock ROM for Poco is MIUI. You can try checking the Poco out of the box.
Expounding on the topic, xiaomi.eu is considered a custom ROM because it has system level changes for the removal of ads and Chinese localization (apart from the fact that it is deodexed). If xiaomi.eu is a custom ROM in itself, then by what claim can we say that PE is non-custom?
Please have a look at this changelog for the CAF version of PE (I think AOSP has it too) : https://github.com/PixelExperience/..._caf_beryllium-9.0-20190505-2106-OFFICIAL.txt
Of course, you might have a different view of what "seems custom", but the vast difference of the PE ROM from the MIUI ROM speaks for itself that it is indeed custom (BTW, there's a high chance that ROMs that require you to flash them through TWRP is custom).
My apologies for a rather harsh attitude earlier. I'm here to inform and respectfully agree or disagree with what I know. Have a good day.
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IIABODEII said:
Yes I have. Great effort by the devs but definitely the worst experience a user will have if they want any type of customization.
I came to the Poco from Pixel 2 xl and I had the pixel for only month and sold it because of its terrible UI. why? because what kind of software makers take a step back when improving a software? for as far as i remember, the recents clear button has always been .25 second away from clicking the recents button. But Pixel UI went out of their way to make the clear button at the end of the list and you have to swipe through all your recent apps to hit that button! OOS and MIUI kept the button on the same place where it was in Oreo, except Pixel!
Same can happen in other custom roms if I download the messaging and phone apps from google play
My question was the stock messaging and phone app on the custom roms
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Legit concerns. I personally like how Huawei implemented EMUI and OOS on Oneplus. However, I did answer the mere question of the existence of a dark mode, as the Messages and Phone apps on PE is bundled as its default.
I will concede that Android Messaging apps are a mess, whether through their inconsistencies and their UI. But we can only hope for better things.

pakpaker said:
In the context of the Poco F1 (or any other phone that is not the Pixel 1/2/3/3a and XLs for that matter), Pixel Experience is a custom ROM for these reasons:
Pixel Experience is not a GSI image that we just put in Pocophone. It also has its code based off Lineage with Pixel sources too (and with CAF, Qualcomm-specific code).
Try flashing MIUI stock straight on top of PE. You'll see lots of errors, simply because the frameworks are different. Stock ROM for Poco is MIUI. You can try checking the Poco out of the box.
Expounding on the topic, xiaomi.eu is considered a custom ROM because it has system level changes for the removal of ads and Chinese localization (apart from the fact that it is deodexed). If xiaomi.eu is a custom ROM in itself, then by what claim can we say that PE is non-custom?
Please have a look at this changelog for the CAF version of PE (I think AOSP has it too) : https://github.com/PixelExperience/..._caf_beryllium-9.0-20190505-2106-OFFICIAL.txt
Of course, you might have a different view of what "seems custom", but the vast difference of the PE ROM from the MIUI ROM speaks for itself that it is indeed custom (BTW, there's a high chance that ROMs that require you to flash them through TWRP is custom).
My apologies for a rather harsh attitude earlier. I'm here to inform and respectfully agree or disagree with what I know. Have a good day.
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Legit concerns. I personally like how Huawei implemented EMUI and OOS on Oneplus. However, I did answer the mere question of the existence of a dark mode, as the Messages and Phone apps on PE is bundled as its default.
I will concede that Android Messaging apps are a mess, whether through their inconsistencies and their UI. But we can only hope for better things.
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No hard feelings. I came to learn.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.

IIABODEII said:
No hard feelings. I came to learn.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
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No worries. XDA is a great place to learn, and I am also learning. I enjoyed this discussion. Feel free to ask anytime, I'll try to be more kind if I can be of help in informing. :good:

use substratum
I don't really care about miui theme or stock aosp themes since always on custom rom with subs since they can't themes third party apps
now i'm happy with aosip+ pitch black substratum for everuthing

IIABODEII said:
So far, I have installed over 9 custom roms, and none of them has Dark Mode for Messages & Phone apps. (except OOS port)
devs have been focusing on dark theme all across the device, yet not a single rom has dark messages & phone app.
And no, downloading Phone & messages from google play isn't a solution.
Is it actually difficult to implement?
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The aim of LOS is near stock android. The stock android is just AOSP, if you use aosp, google can't make money from it as it's open source. If you use their Google services they can make money. If stock android's Messaging app and Phone app has the good features (dark theme, call screening etc) like Google's Messaging app or phone app, every one will prefer that and google might face a loss. As los is based on aosp (for some extent) you can't have dark mode there. Each and every custom ROM is based on LOS, so no you can't have dark mode. You can either use PE which has Google's messenging and calling app or use substratum theme engine.
I'm not 100% sure. If I made a mistake please correct it. Thanks ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

Have you tried to use Google Phone and Messages apps? I'm using them on lineageos and they has dark mode
Just use these apps.

if you're already flashing gapps, why dont just enable Google's Phone and Message app since they have dark mode and just a lot better than any of the custom rom's counterpart? And their dark mode is not tied to the ROM, ever.

Shished said:
Have you tried to use Google Phone and Messages apps? I'm using them on lineageos and they has dark mode
Just use these apps.
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Yes I have, that is pretty much the only choice left
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if you're already flashing gapps, why dont just enable Google's Phone and Message app since they have dark mode and just a lot better than any of the custom rom's counterpart? And their dark mode is not tied to the ROM, ever.
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Yes I have, that is pretty much the only choice left

IIABODEII said:
Yes I have, that is pretty much the only choice left
Yes I have, that is pretty much the only choice left
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Why do you want to use AOSP apps instead of Google apps?