Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)(MSM8974PRO-AA)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
-Slippery
-SD card problem //fixed
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
If I'm right also oneplus x lacks in 800 Mhz LTE band
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No. Oneplus x for eu include band 20. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
I was thinking of getting the opx for a family member but I think the mi4c is better due to what you mentioned, bigger battery, Wi-Fi ac, USB C, ir blaster which is a bonus and the soc. Camera is very good and fast. Maybe wait for opx review with camera samples.
Custom roms may be slow but there is a cm12.1 rom which is a daily driver except a few minor bugs.
Touch problem was only there on the first ROM. All roms after that had no problems with it. We get weekly updates aswell but probably won't get official marshmallow soon (custom rom, 99% sure though), so you're pretty much set on the software part. I'd say the screen is very good, it has high contrast rates and looks very bright. You can control the saturation etc. so blue (cold) and warm colors is probably what they are reporting.
The advantage to OPX I'd see is band 20, it looks a bit better (just my opinion, but build quality is solid on both), has AMOLED and it has MicroSD.
I already have mi 4c and its better than even one plus two
One plus x is average phone.
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I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
geko95gek said:
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
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Apparently xiaomi release source a few months later? When it does, it will be the better phone.
I'd wait for camera samples so that way youll have an all rounder phone
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
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Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
andrew551 said:
Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
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If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
cowithgun said:
If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
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Agree. I pick Mi4C because once I spend money, I want to use hardware for as long as possible. Mi4C is more future ready with USB-C, WiFi-ac, 64bit compliance and cost. AMOLED is one thing that I'd miss but guess that's a minor negative.
shangxor said:
Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
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No tweaks but aggressively toggling settings like aeroplane mode when on my train journey to/from work (no reception), only turning sync on when I connect to WiFi and then only connecting to WiFi occasionally to check emails. No bluetooth, location (yes, locking on is buggy for me but can get it eventually)
I love my Mi4C, the power, the battery life, the design and the display is awesome (and its not blueish) before I'd buy One Plus X, I would rather buy a Xiaomi Mi4
I just wish the Mi 4c had either 64GB or SD card support as well as band 20, I don't care about NFC. If it had those it'd be the perfect phone for me!
The Mi 4c is superior but if you really need band 20 e. g. you instead have to use 2G there's no way around the one plus x
either way both are solid phones
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
geko95gek said:
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
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Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
ermacwins said:
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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Totally agree
ermacwins said:
Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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I guess but at least OP have a global division where RMA and warranty issues get handled. Which is so much better than importing a phone yourself and then having to send it back to China if something goes wrong.
I know what you mean about he plastics, I've had 2 Xiaomi devices myself before. 1 of which was plastic, and it felt alright but if I have a choice I'd always avoid any type of plastic.
They're all a similar price, with the Honor being the priciest.
Looking for a fairly cheap, fairly decent phone as a backup phone to my iPhone, for when I travel abroad. Something that gives me decent battery, performance and a camera. NFC would be nice too, for Android Pay.
Options are the 6X, Wileyfox Swift 2, or a Xiaomi.
I'd go for the Wileyfox if it had a better CPU - it has a SD 430. The Xiaomi's are decently priced, the Redmi Note 4 (global edition) is about £150 from honorbuy, SD 625 I think. But it lacks NFC, not vital, just would've been nice. Plus the Xiaomi could come with a vendor ROM, and I need to wait for the global version to be released, as I need LTE band 20.
What are my other options? I'd go for the Honor but the build quality is suspect, at least from YouTube videos.
Built quality of honor phones are better on any day than redmis. Plus the camera is way better. Battery is decent as well...1.5 days om regular use. I can stretch SOT upto 10 max and 7 on an average. EU version has nfc and gyro both.
redmi note 4 will have better custom rom support
zingxao said:
They're all a similar price, with the Honor being the priciest.
Looking for a fairly cheap, fairly decent phone as a backup phone to my iPhone, for when I travel abroad. Something that gives me decent battery, performance and a camera. NFC would be nice too, for Android Pay.
Options are the 6X, Wileyfox Swift 2, or a Xiaomi.
I'd go for the Wileyfox if it had a better CPU - it has a SD 430. The Xiaomi's are decently priced, the Redmi Note 4 (global edition) is about £150 from honorbuy, SD 625 I think. But it lacks NFC, not vital, just would've been nice. Plus the Xiaomi could come with a vendor ROM, and I need to wait for the global version to be released, as I need LTE band 20.
What are my other options? I'd go for the Honor but the build quality is suspect, at least from YouTube videos.
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Build quality on the honor is as good as a flagship device. Believe it or not i had the galaxy s6 before this and for me this looks and feels better
I am looking for a new smartphone.
Budget: 200-300$
Things that i need:
- Good quality build
- Good Display
- min 32 GB Flash Storage
- min. 4 GB RAM
- Android
- Good internet/browser performance
- No lags, smoth control
- Great battery
Things that are not important to me:
- Camera
- Games
- Special Apps in general which need a lot of performance
My last phone was an Iphone 7 and i realised that i don't a need high-end smartphone anymore, because for the things i want to do with my phone (mail, browser, videos, chatting, sometimes calling) a low/mid-range phone would be more than enough.
But since i am using my phone very often from early morning till late night, it has to be fast, reliable, completely smooth and should last for a minimum of 2 years.
Phones that i found for myself until now, after watching and reading some tests/reviews:
- Honor 9
- Honor 9 Lite
- Huawei P10 Lite
- Xiaomi Mi A1
- BQ Aquaris X / Pro
Until now, i really like the Xiaomi Mi A1 because of its great price/performance ratio.
But maybe some of you can give me a better advice.
I would be really thankful for that.
best regards
Whitcomb
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Whitcomb said:
I am looking for a new smartphone.
Budget: 200-300$
Things that i need:
- Good quality build
- Good Display
- min 32 GB Flash Storage
- min. 4 GB RAM
- Android
- Good internet/browser performance
- No lags, smoth control
- Great battery
Things that are not important to me:
- Camera
- Games
- Special Apps in general which need a lot of performance
My last phone was an Iphone 7 and i realised that i don't a need high-end smartphone anymore, because for the things i want to do with my phone (mail, browser, videos, chatting, sometimes calling) a low/mid-range phone would be more than enough.
But since i am using my phone very often from early morning till late night, it has to be fast, reliable, completely smooth and should last for a minimum of 2 years.
Phones that i found for myself until now, after watching and reading some tests/reviews:
- Honor 9
- Honor 9 Lite
- Huawei P10 Lite
- Xiaomi Mi A1
- BQ Aquaris X / Pro
Until now, i really like the Xiaomi Mi A1 because of its great price/performance ratio.
But maybe some of you can give me a better advice.
I would be really thankful for that.
best regards
Whitcomb
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Have you considered the LG V20 or V30
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I got my Note 5 yesterday (Global Version) and it will replace my Redmi 5 Plus. However, I anticipated that the performance and speed would (e.g. opening apps) be much better on Note 5, however, I only feel a small difference.
Im currently using global 8.5.11 Beta. Are the china roms any faster?
Even in comparision with a Mi Mix 2s - the performance is slighly noticeable.
MIUI's system performing well on every Xiaomi devices and there are mostly no differencies depending on your hardware.
I was wondering whether to get the Pro or Plus version but I feel the difference is small, it is a bit faster maybe but not so noticeable and what about the camera? How much better is the camera in Pro vs Plus? Also big thing is Plus has soooo much more rom support than Pro. They came out around same time,I don't know how long it will take for Pro to reach same amount of roms and I don't feel like the wait is so worth it.
n3w0rk said:
Even in comparision with a Mi Mix 2s - the performance is slighly noticeable.
MIUI's system performing well on every Xiaomi devices and there are mostly no differencies depending on your hardware.
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I have used both Mi Mix 1, Mi Mix 2 och Mi 5s Plus. All of these phones felt noticeably faster in comparison. Perhaps because of the faster memory or more optimized software.
Antutu Scores
I have both the Redmi 5 Plus (Global Stable 9.5.11.0 NEGMIFA) 625 SOC and the Redmi Note 5 AI China (Global Stable 9.5.11.0 OEIMIFA)636 SOC
The Antutu Scores are as follows:
Redmi 5 Plus (Global Stable 9.5.11.0 NEGMIFA) 77072 (CPU 38783, GPU 12693, UX 20377 and MEM 5219)
Redmi Note 5 AI (Global Stable 9.5.11.0 OEIMIFA 115507 (CPU 56020, GPU 20883, UX 32192 and MEM 6412)
I valso have a NOKIA 7 Plus which scores as follows, just to give a comparision.
141134 (CPU 64832, GPU 29994, UX 39242 and MEM 7066)660 SOC
Looking for the best phone for 300
Mi9
Much better camera hardware here.
It depends what's important to you.
Mi Note 10 is better at:
- Screen, Mi Note 10 has an AMOLED Screen with slightly better ppi (K30 comes with an IPS LCD)
- Way better cameras
- Battery
K30 5G is better at:
- Processor
- Slightly faster RAM
So if you want great photos and video with a great screen and a great battery = Mi Note 10
Gaming and overall performance speed, 5G data speed = K30