Database Info

Mate 9 Pro released today in Scandinavia

If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Avalible for preorder now, delivery starts on 20. of december.
Price 5.999 DKK (appx. 800 EUR) for 128 GB version. Preorders includes a pair of Huawei AM185 Active Noise Cancelling earphones.
Full specs: http://consumer.huawei.com/dk/support/products/technicalspecs/mate9pro-dk.htm

It's a nice phone but the screen size is to small for my tastes. Hopefully they will still release the same specs with a 5.9 inch form factor.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA-Developers mobile app

Yep, 5.9 a must have!

EMF said:
If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At what price ?

Lodix said:
At what price ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
5.999 DKK list price (about 800 EUR).
I have preordered with a 6 month contract a about 4.750 DKK / 640 EUR.
It is 128GB only + slot for SD card or a second sim (which I am going to use it for)

EMF said:
5.999 DKK list price (about 800 EUR).
I have preordered with a 6 month contract a about 4.750 DKK / 640 EUR.
It is 128GB only + slot for SD card or a second sim (which I am going to use it for)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please post sample photos when you receive it [emoji6]

I like a Mate series screen to be big ha ha
Quad HD would have been nice but full HD is good too in real life if you don`t use VR.

Any online shop taking preorders?

EMF said:
If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Avalible for preorder now, delivery starts on 20. of december.
Price 5.999 DKK (appx. 800 EUR) for 128 GB version. Preorders includes a pair of Huawei AM185 Active Noise Cancelling earphones.
Full specs: http://consumer.huawei.com/dk/support/products/technicalspecs/mate9pro-dk.htm
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please can you provide us the website to order this mobile ?

I second the motion. @EMF

medo18 said:
Please can you provide us the website to order this mobile ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Currently it is only available for pre-order. It will be delivered from december 20. It can be pre-ordered from most of the mobile service providers and a few tech-shops like http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/mo...T9PGY/huawei-mate-9-pro-smartphone-128-gb-gra and http://www.wupti.com/produkter/mobil,-gps-og-foto/mobiltelefoner/huawei/huawei-mate-9-pro-gold. I don't think they ship internationally thu, and the mobile service providers definitely dont.
The phone will probably be available from more shops after it becomes available for delivery.

It doesn't support SD card slot though. Neither does the Porsche edition apparently. They claim it's due to support for 3G/4G on the second SIM but from what I understand the regular Mate 9 does support both. Just wanted to throw that out there.
I'm currently strongly considering picking it up but I'm deeply concerned about dev support considering the Kirin SoC, multiple SKUs with varying specs and potentially few devs picking up the device due to price and availability.

The pro variant including porsche design scored less in performance and graphics compared to the full fledged Mate 9.
So choose what you want in your Mate 9. Performance or Looks.

Emerald Core said:
The pro variant including porsche design scored less in performance and graphics compared to the full fledged Mate 9.
So choose what you want in your Mate 9. Performance or Looks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a given. HIgher resolution display and the same chip in a bigger device usually gives a higher thermal headroom resulting in better benchmark scores but the difference should be negligible.

Trixanity said:
That's a given. HIgher resolution display and the same chip in a bigger device usually gives a higher thermal headroom resulting in better benchmark scores but the difference should be negligible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You know , I sold my Mate 9 for the only purpose of buying the Pro variant with 6gb/128 configuration.
Well until someone confirms that we can get a pro with Google play installed officially.

Emerald Core said:
You know , I sold my Mate 9 for the only purpose of buying the Pro variant with 6gb/128 configuration.
Well until someone confirms that we can get a pro with Google play installed officially.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, as this thread indicates, the Pro can be bought with Google Play installed
(However, it will be released on December 20th, so that's a long way to go if you intend to install the Scandinavian ROM on what I assume is a Chinese variant?)
In fact, If I buy the Mate 9, I can only buy the Pro unless I buy from another EU country. The regular Mate 9 has not been launched in Scandinavia which disappointed many and they said at the time that they had no intentions of bringing it here. Fast forward three weeks and the Pro was announced to launch and the Pro will be the only Mate 9 variant in the Scandinavian market. So I'm guessing that the Pro might only be on the market in China and Scandinavia which makes me question the development for the device :/
It saddens me a bit that the Pro will actually be a step back in some regards compared to the regular variant: no SD card slot and slightly decreased SoC performance (as you mention), fewer color variants (only two colors for this market: gold and grey) - and some would say the fingerprint scanner moving to the front is a downgrade as well. I also saw some disappointment in the AMOLED display not being a 6" (or larger) one; the complaint being they wanted an actual big phone but I don't mind too much personally. I have a 5.2" device now and it already slips out of some of my pockets due to the size, so a 6" behemoth wouldn't help in that department
They probably couldn't source a decent AMOLED display at that size although I'm curious as to how well calibrated the display is. Huawei and other Chinese manufacturers haven't been known for their attention to that kind of detail. Samsung, the Pixel and the OnePlus 3(T) have well calibrated AMOLED displays but the rest of the market seems to neglect that.

Call me guilty, I put my Pixel XL for sale and bought a Mate 9 (second time after the gold M9) with my favorite color Space Grey (no more silly black borders).

Emerald Core said:
Call me guilty, I put my Pixel XL for sale and bought a Mate 9 (second time after the gold M9) with my favorite color Space Grey (no more silly black borders).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congratz! I knew you would come back...

Well, I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the Huawei Mate 9 Pro in Space Grey. So I'll be getting a nice Christmas present.
I just hope development for this device will pick up because it will certainly prolong the life of the device; however it does seem from reviews that it's a great device.
I'm coming from an LG G2 which has been somewhat of an underground success with a fantastic developer community around it, so I doubt any non-Samsung/Nexus/Pixel/OnePlus device can live up to that but hopefully it will be enough

I have the Porsche Design and placed alongside my mate 9 the screen size difference is negligible due to the on screen navigation buttons on the mate 9.

honor 8 or S7

hi there !
i would like to buy a new phone.
for the same price, i can have the Honor 8 or the galaxy S7 (not edge)
the two phones seems the same, i can notice one important thing : screen remplacement is lower for the Honor (45$ , samsung is more than 150 $ !! )
so is everyone agree with me ? for the same price, Honor 8 is better choice ?

Honor 8 is better choice
---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 PM ----------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypUksJ647c&t=256s

Really depends on what you expect/want from your phone.

warindo said:
Honor 8 is better choice
---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 PM ----------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypUksJ647c&t=256s
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Already read this
My fear is that honor 8 will be like a Xiaomi, nice on the paper, but not so good in real life.
1 year ago, i bought a Vernee Apollo Lite, nice on the paper... But very medium in real...

S7

S7. Much better camera and even better custom roms if you get Exynos version.

Honor 8
I will never own a device with physical navigation bar buttons, especially not one like Samsung that reverses them from every other Android device on the planet. Physical buttons alone are enough of a reason. Plus the Honor 8 will take pictures indistinguishable from the S7 at the sizes that anybody will actually be viewing them.

S7 exynos - otherwise get honor 8.
S7 snapdragon version has much worse battery life.

PancakeBimmer said:
S7. Much better camera and even better custom roms if you get Exynos version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. The S7's camera is oversharpened, wirh plastic like effects on the photos.
I had both.

I saw 2 versions of S7 (930v and 930f , one of them is more expensive than the other..) but i cannot find a test about it, 930v vs 930f.... (And i will take the less expensive)
I also like the usb type C. only the honor have it.
And about photo quality, for me the both are same.
I agree, the honor seems better, even just a little bit. And Emui seems very nice. Also, i know samsung never update his systems and S7 will stay on android 7.
What about Physical buttons ? Where is the problem?
Sigray, wich one do you prefer ?

S7

Ascrounch said:
I saw 2 versions of S7 (930v and 930f , one of them is more expensive than the other..) but i cannot find a test about it, 930v vs 930f.... (And i will take the less expensive)
I also like the usb type C. only the honor have it.
And about photo quality, for me the both are same.
I agree, the honor seems better, even just a little bit. And Emui seems very nice. Also, i know samsung never update his systems and S7 will stay on android 7.
What about Physical buttons ? Where is the problem?
Sigray, wich one do you prefer ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honor, of course.

You got me with this question
Couse I like the s7 and honor 8
I would love to have either one the same
But the only difference for me to choose from
Would be XDA support
But then again maybe more honor 8
You should if you can get them for the same price read much to know what to choose
So, good luck with this one

How about S8? [emoji14]

bogarty said:
How about S8? [emoji14]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look at the attachment about honor 8 and Mi6 and S8
Its better then some of honor 8 owners would say

brljak83 said:
Look at the attachment about honor 8 and Mi6 and S8
Its better then some of honor 8 owners would say
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You truly believe that they made no significant technological advances from S7 to S8? Personally, I say benchmarks be damned. Plenty of articles out there too about how benchmarks don't really mean anything.

Well S8 is too expensive... This is a phone, remember ! Seriously, 800$ !!
The Mi6 is really nice but 2 problems : first its expensive, and second, he doesn't have 700 and 800 mhz frequency, and i need it in my country.
And finally, i 've just bought a Honor 8, for 168$ with a screen destroyed. I will change it for 40$ then he will looks like new phone

Ascrounch said:
Well S8 is too expensive... This is a phone, remember ! Seriously, 800$ !!
The Mi6 is really nice but 2 problems : first its expensive, and second, he doesn't have 700 and 800 mhz frequency, and i need it in my country.
And finally, i 've just bought a Honor 8, for 168$ with a screen destroyed. I will change it for 40$ then he will looks like new phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let us know how it went with the screen replacement
If you did it or some else and how much did you pay for it
Maybe you could share already some pictures

It's really easy to do.
I can make pictures, but you should check on youtube, there are many videos about it.

Hii @bogarty
Yes I do believe that there was some of technological advances from S7 to S8
But I dont believe that it should be that high price for it anyway..
I just think that if thay see this year that people are paying for lets say 800 dollar phone they just raise the
price next year.. but it does not have be ( my opinion ) that it is becouse of technological advances
And I posted the geekbench bench becouse many consider geekbench better then antutu..
And it was lets say just for fun .. becouse you mentioned the S8
And I have to agree with you that benchmarks should be damned becouse I lately am looking
only on the specification and the real time you tube videos..
By the way.. I saw how honor 8 has in many tasks been faster then iPhone 7

Honor 9 vs OnePlus 5

GSMArena side-by-side specifications comparison
I'm posting this thread from the perspective of someone who owns and loves an Honor 8, and is having to evaluate these 2 devices as the primary options for my next phone.
Key differences:
LTE bands: H9 (Europe: 1,3,5,7,8,20) vs OP5 (1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,66)
Body size: H9 (147.3 x 70.9 x 7.5) vs OP5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.3)
Screen size: H9 (5.15) vs OP5 (5.5)
Screen type: H9 (IPS) vs OP5 (AMOLED)
Chipset: H9 (Kirin) vs OP5 (Snapdragon)
Cameras: Objective differences are irrelevant for cameras, we'll just have to wait on side-by-side comparison reviews, preliminarily it looks like these may have similar quality.
Storage: Internal (same), MicroSD: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Infrared: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Key factors:
- The Honor 8 was significantly less expensive than the OnePlus 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OnePlus 5.
- The Honor 8 had a significantly better camera than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is looking to be similar to the OP 5.
- Price: The Honor 8 was about 25-50% less expensive than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OP 5.
- No MicroSD slot in the OP 5
It's unfortunate, because I really like my Honor 8, but I don't think the Honor 9 is a good purchase compared to the OnePlus 5. Pretty much all over the internet and social media I have told people to buy an Honor 8 (and instead of a OnePlus 3T) but I don't think I can carry over that recommendation to this generation of phones. If the Honor 9 launches in the US with appropriate LTE bands and at a price 25-30% lower than the OnePlus 5, it will be a close decision on what to buy. But at the current pricing, I think the OnePlus 5 is the clear choice between the two.
Thoughts? What are you all planning to do?

I used to have the Honor 8, but I had to get rid of it because I couldn't stand the software, even after Android 7 update. I was able to simply swipe past the Android Device Manager lost phone screen because it wasn't integrated right with EMUI. There were other issues like bluetooth delayed syncing. The software experience from stock Android is just so much better so I would recommend waiting for the OnePlus 5T in October.
I ended up buying the Note 5 Duos after using the G6, after deciding to not get the S8. All of these four phones (Note5, G6, Honor9, OP5) have the same price and should be considered. It's crazy because I found I tolerate the Samsung UI with Android 7 more than LG, and some of the features like changing to 720p and 1080p resolution are killer features for me.

Telperion said:
GSMArena side-by-side specifications comparison
I'm posting this thread from the perspective of someone who owns and loves an Honor 8, and is having to evaluate these 2 devices as the primary options for my next phone.
Key differences:
LTE bands: H9 (Europe: 1,3,5,7,8,20) vs OP5 (1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,66)
Body size: H9 (147.3 x 70.9 x 7.5) vs OP5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.3)
Screen size: H9 (5.15) vs OP5 (5.5)
Screen type: H9 (IPS) vs OP5 (AMOLED)
Chipset: H9 (Kirin) vs OP5 (Snapdragon)
Cameras: Objective differences are irrelevant for cameras, we'll just have to wait on side-by-side comparison reviews, preliminarily it looks like these may have similar quality.
Storage: Internal (same), MicroSD: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Infrared: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Key factors:
- The Honor 8 was significantly less expensive than the OnePlus 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OnePlus 5.
- The Honor 8 had a significantly better camera than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is looking to be similar to the OP 5.
- Price: The Honor 8 was about 25-50% less expensive than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OP 5.
- No MicroSD slot in the OP 5
It's unfortunate, because I really like my Honor 8, but I don't think the Honor 9 is a good purchase compared to the OnePlus 5. Pretty much all over the internet and social media I have told people to buy an Honor 8 (and instead of a OnePlus 3T) but I don't think I can carry over that recommendation to this generation of phones. If the Honor 9 launches in the US with appropriate LTE bands and at a price 25-30% lower than the OnePlus 5, it will be a close decision on what to buy. But at the current pricing, I think the OnePlus 5 is the clear choice between the two.
Thoughts? What are you all planning to do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for me... the microSD killed any chance of me getting a OnePlus 5. in some parts of the world (like where i live), mobile data isn't cheap and fast. doing things "on the cloud" just don't cut it. so, i'd love to have as much storage as possible. also, with camera now able to record at high resolution, it will take up space. i'm not the type that wanna copy out my videos every few days. i can be lazy and do it once every few weeks or so. so, again, storage means a lot to me and having microSD is wonderful.
but... i'm also a AMOLED fan. sadly, i think only time i've seen huawei/ honor with amoled is on the P9Plus. i do hope huawei will look into manufacturing AMOLED screens. having said that, between microSD and AMOLED. i would pick microSD anytime.
one consideration that probably weighs in as important is the size. 5.5" vs 5.2" is quite a big difference.

I've heard very good of OP5, despite I don't like they've increased the price so much. Previous versions were more tight. The starting price of 500€ is not good.
The Honor 9 looks good option, cheaper (449€) and including a sports band. About performance and camera still not sure...
OP5 has 6 GB of RAM and AMOLED display.
Honor 9 has micro SD card support, infrared and is cheaper.
Still considering Xiaomi Mi 6... Which also has infrared, 6 GB of RAM and it's the cheapest of all three.
Thoughts please?

mdabar said:
The Honor 9 looks good option, cheaper (449€) and including a sports band. About performance and camera still not sure...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like sports band action is over, there is no more banner on vmall.eu store.
In mean time you still could have 30 EUR cashback until 4 of August. Which brings price of phone to 400 EUR.

I had 3 oneplus 5's within 14 days and all had issues so sold the 3rd and got the honor 9 and couldn't be happier
Sent from my STF-L09 using Tapatalk

master_of_shadows said:
Looks like sports band action is over, there is no more banner on vmall.eu store.
In mean time you still could have 30 EUR cashback until 4 of August. Which brings price of phone to 400 EUR.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's weird, that may be the case for Germany... In Spanish shop you still have the band, nothing about the cashbacks.
Anyway cashback is not common practice in Spain.
I definitely think I'll take this phone.
What about battery? Are speakers good enough?
I've heard that screen is not enough bright. Can you confirm/deny?
Thanks guys for comments. ?

mdabar said:
It's weird, that may be the case for Germany... In Spanish shop you still have the band, nothing about the cashbacks.
Anyway cashback is not common practice in Spain.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, you right. Cashback is only for Germany. I thought it is EU wide action, sorry.
---------- Post added at 11:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 AM ----------
DoobyDroid said:
I had 3 oneplus 5's within 14 days and all had issues so sold the 3rd and got the honor 9 and couldn't be happier
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What was the issues? And how exactly Honor 9 is better for you than OP5?

master_of_shadows said:
Oh, you right. Cashback is only for Germany. I thought it is EU wide action, sorry.
---------- Post added at 11:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 AM ----------
What was the issues? And how exactly Honor 9 is better for you than OP5?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Random request boots, heat issues, connectivity issues, judder scrolling,
Honor 9 for me better to hold very smooth looks nicer as well
Sent from my STF-L09 using Tapatalk

For long term development of community, OP5 is far far better than Honor 9...

jerryhou85 said:
For long term development of community, OP5 is far far better than Honor 9...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe for the short-term, but not necessarily for the longterm. OnePlus has been a real trend (very attractive) for the past years. They have suddenly increased a lot the price, so lot of people will see it a little bit less interesting.
However Honor is proving to be right on the mid-range price but with good results and feedback from people (from what I've heard/read). I'm quite recent to check about Honor (and probably will buy it this week) but first thing I saw in here is that you have a few ROMs for the Honor 8. It means that we will probably have even more for the Honor 9... and once you have CM or Lineage more will definitely come. :good:

jerryhou85 said:
For long term development of community, OP5 is far far better than Honor 9...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd rather have a phone that works properly, development will grow with time let's not forget it's only just been released and didn't even need an update on release and still hasn't as it doesn't need atm everything working as it should 3 updates the op5 had from release and still problems, I lost faith in 1+ after 3 devices all had different issues, and support is lame,
Sent from my STF-L09 using Tapatalk

mdabar said:
Maybe for the short-term, but not necessarily for the longterm. OnePlus has been a real trend (very attractive) for the past years. They have suddenly increased a lot the price, so lot of people will see it a little bit less interesting.
However Honor is proving to be right on the mid-range price but with good results and feedback from people (from what I've heard/read). I'm quite recent to check about Honor (and probably will buy it this week) but first thing I saw in here is that you have a few ROMs for the Honor 8. It means that we will probably have even more for the Honor 9... and once you have CM or Lineage more will definitely come. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's case by case, though. Honor 8 certainly has received more love than its litter brother, Honor 6X. Honor 6X's Android N is not coming out soon due to no source yet from HUAWEI for EMUI5.
Huawei is releasing many devices a year, not sure what is their detailed policy...
---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:05 PM ----------
DoobyDroid said:
I'd rather have a phone that works properly, development will grow with time let's not forget it's only just been released and didn't even need an update on release and still hasn't as it doesn't need atm everything working as it should 3 updates the op5 had from release and still problems, I lost faith in 1+ after 3 devices all had different issues, and support is lame,
Sent from my STF-L09 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand what you mean, especially after recent OP2 Android N update dropped, but at this moment, 1+ still has better developer community than HUAWEI Honor. But things may change in future, which is not clear yet.

jerryhou85 said:
Well, that's case by case, though. Honor 8 certainly has received more love than its litter brother, Honor 6X. Honor 6X's Android N is not coming out soon due to no source yet from HUAWEI for EMUI5.
Huawei is releasing many devices a year, not sure what is their detailed policy...
---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:05 PM ----------
I understand what you mean, especially after recent OP2 Android N update dropped, but at this moment, 1+ still has better developer community than HUAWEI Honor. But things may change in future, which is not clear yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my experience many devices per year is not a good strategy... unless you have the muscle of Samsung for instance.
I look to Elephone... awful experiences always (different people), is there is always something that won't work after a short period. And there is no support at all. With every new device, the promise a lot: updates, custom ROMs,... nothing of that has ever happened. Devices are simply forgotten after the launching.
Xiaomi is somehow different, since they keep updating MIUI for their devices even after some long time. My Redmi Note 2 Prime is still getting updates (despite still using Android 5.0.2 as the core).
About OP I've heard mixed reactions. A friend is really happy with the OP5, not a single issue for the time being. For every model people tells me "When I got it, it wasn't working very fine, I was even thinking on selling or returning it, but after the official OTA update, it's a new phone and now it's working amazingly well"... but still they increased the price too much.
For the moment I've received and read very good feedback about Honor. So I'll take the bet! I'm travelling now, so will order just before arriving home next week

mdabar said:
In my experience many devices per year is not a good strategy... unless you have the muscle of Samsung for instance.
I look to Elephone... awful experiences always (different people), is there is always something that won't work after a short period. And there is no support at all. With every new device, the promise a lot: updates, custom ROMs,... nothing of that has ever happened. Devices are simply forgotten after the launching.
Xiaomi is somehow different, since they keep updating MIUI for their devices even after some long time. My Redmi Note 2 Prime is still getting updates (despite still using Android 5.0.2 as the core).
About OP I've heard mixed reactions. A friend is really happy with the OP5, not a single issue for the time being. For every model people tells me "When I got it, it wasn't working very fine, I was even thinking on selling or returning it, but after the official OTA update, it's a new phone and now it's working amazingly well"... but still they increased the price too much.
For the moment I've received and read very good feedback about Honor. So I'll take the bet! I'm travelling now, so will order just before arriving home next week
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, good luck for you on Honor. :highfive:
You will find EMUI is different from MIUI, but not a lot. And HUAWEI does have some unique apps to try on. :laugh:

Hahaha thanks @jerryhou85 I really hope to enjoy it

I don't buy phones, where the screen is build in upside-down. Waited so long for OP5 since I am a OPO user but I started a collection thread about bugs and decided to go with Honor
Sent from my Honor 9 using XDA Labs

Honor Note 10 vs Mi Max 3

Both have big BIG screens... 6.9/6.99 and will be available this month... I think the Note 10 is high end and Max 3 is mid upper... Question? Will they have US bands?

Steamer2499 said:
Both have big BIG screens... 6.9/6.99 and will be available this month... I think the Note 10 is high end and Max 3 is mid upper... Question? Will they have US bands?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neither will have US bands unless they decide to release an international version which is highly unlikely especially for the Mi Max 3.

ajsmsg78 said:
Neither will have US bands unless they decide to release an international version which is highly unlikely especially for the Mi Max 3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw this on the Mi Max... https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-max-3

Steamer2499 said:
I saw this on the Mi Max... https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-max-3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think there will be any US LTE.

Steamer2499 said:
I saw this on the Mi Max... https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-max-3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ajsmsg78 said:
I don't think there will be any US LTE.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The specs on the Honor Note 10 look awesome with the horrible deal-breaker exception of the screen aspect ratio of 19.5:10, which simply downgrade the screen size of the new Note 10 from the X2's 7" @ 5.9x3.7 to 7" @ 6.4x2.9.
Notice how the width of the new Note 10 is downgraded from 3.7" to 2.9". This simply sucks especially for watching a video in landscape mode or reading something in portrait mode. I really hope this spec is wrong!!!
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 AM ----------
Edit: I have several family members who have newer phones like the Galaxy S8+ with this newer aspect ratio and most of them hate it because the width is too small. I am of the opinion that eventually manufacturers will revert back at least somewhat to the old aspect ratio giving more width. In my opinion it's simply stupid and ruins the experience!
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

E--Man said:
-cut-
I am of the opinion that eventually manufacturers will revert back at least somewhat to the old aspect ratio giving more width. In my opinion it's simply stupid and ruins the experience!
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am totally agree. This aspect ratio is simply ridiculous...

The Xiaomi Mi Max 3 has officially launched.
https://youtu.be/92g4LCLoRoo
https://youtu.be/gIf1Z-YzhSY
It looks like the MiMax 3 battery and screen are both bigger than what the Huawei Note 10 will have along with a much lower price so I am trying to figure if there are any advantages to getting the Huawei Note 10 when it comes out later this month.
CORRECTION: The Huawei Note 10 battery is slated to carry a 6000 Li-Po battery which is 500mAh bigger than the Mi Max 3.
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
---------- Post added at 01:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------
Here is a screen comparison.
SCREEN COMPARISON:
Huawei X2: 7" @ 5.9x3.7 (16:10)
Huawei Note 10: 6.9" @ 6.3x2.9 (19.5:9)
Xiaomi Mi Max 3: 6.9" @ 6.2x3.1 (18:9)
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

E--Man said:
The Xiaomi Mi Max 3 has officially launched.
https://youtu.be/92g4LCLoRoo
https://youtu.be/gIf1Z-YzhSY
It looks like the MiMax 3 battery and screen are both bigger than what the Huawei Note 10 will have along with a much lower price so I am trying to figure if there are any advantages to getting the Huawei Note 10 when it comes out later this month.
CORRECTION: The Huawei Note 10 battery is slated to carry a 6000 Li-Po battery which is 500mAh bigger than the Mi Max 3.
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
---------- Post added at 01:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------
Here is a screen comparison.
SCREEN COMPARISON:
Huawei X2: 7" @ 6.1x3.4 (16:9)
Huawei Note 10: 6.9" @ 6.3x2.9 (19.5:9)
Xiaomi Mi Max 3: 6.9" @ 6.2x3.1 (18:9)
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it were me and both had LTE support where I live I'd probably go with the Mi Max 3. The original Mi Max was the best phone I've ever owned. It was inexpensive and fast and had plenty of custom roms. Good luck unlocking the bootloader and rooting with the Huawei Note 10. Even going back to the stock rom with a Huawei device is a chore. The Mediapad X2 has a 16:10 aspect ratio. The snapdragon 6 series is faster than you think.

ajsmsg78 said:
If it were me and both had LTE support where I live I'd probably go with the Mi Max 3. The original Mi Max was the best phone I've ever owned. It was inexpensive and fast and had plenty of custom roms. Good luck unlocking the bootloader and rooting with the Huawei Note 10. Even going back to the stock rom with a Huawei device is a chore. The Mediapad X2 has a 16:10 aspect ratio. The snapdragon 6 series is faster than you think.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi AJ you are correct in that the X2's aspect ratio is 16:10 and not 16:9, and I have corrected the numbers in the above posts.
This is all the more reason I am disappointed with the newer-style stupid aspect ratios because the X2's current width is 3.7" and the newer devices reduce that considerably the thr more narrower the aspect ratio gets. I like my X2's screen size and wish they just released a newer BEZELLESS model!
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

Interesting, newer reports as of today are listing the Huawei Honor Note 10 as having a screen aspect ratio of 18.5:9, 6.95" @ 6.2x3.0, and now saying the battery will only be 4900mAh and not 6000mAh.
Looks like information is changing by the day so we'll just have to see when it officially launches on Jul 31st instead of speculating...
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

ajsmsg78 said:
I don't think there will be any US LTE.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U.S LTE bands at least for the MI max 3 are 4 and 5. Band 2 1900 Mhz was important but sadly not available.
---------- Post added at 05:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:14 PM ----------
E--Man said:
Interesting, newer reports as of today are listing the Huawei Honor Note 10 as having a screen aspect ratio of 18.5:9, 6.95" @ 6.2x3.0, and now saying the battery will only be 4900mAh and not 6000mAh.
Looks like information is changing by the day so we'll just have to see when it officially launches on Jul 31st instead of speculating...
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Initially it was to be a 1440p or a 2560x1440 quad HD screen i.e 16/9 for the Note 10...disappointed if it turns out to be 18/9 or worse
Yes 6.9 diagonal on 18/9 has actual screen width the SAME as an old 2013 Samsung Mega 6.3 1280x720...so essentially a Mega display but longer. I have a Mega and have been thinking that the max would look very weird and be bad for page viewing reading

A funny comparison of these newer phones' screen width relative to our X2 in terms of portrait reading which I do a lot of.
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

E--Man said:
A funny comparison of these newer phones' screen width relative to our X2 in terms of portrait reading which I do a lot of. View attachment 4557282
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
great info! thanks!
also..the mi max3 screen is narrower than the mi max 2 as well...imagine that for 6.9 display...all in the ratios.
yes seems so far the honor note 10 will be an even worse 18.5/9 ratio
odd how initially it was to be a 1440p then qhd+ (both 16/9) now fhd+ (18.5/9)

Hello everyone, everyone is well? So I bought a Mi Max 3 and I'm waiting to arrive. I want to thank all those who helped me when I had problems with my X2 and also thank for everything I learned with you during these almost 3 years. I want to thank Aj especially for having done everything he did (ROMS, many tips and more), giving X2 a survival. Thank you all.

Germano1980 said:
Hello everyone, everyone is well? So I bought a Mi Max 3 and I'm waiting to arrive. I want to thank all those who helped me when I had problems with my X2 and also thank for everything I learned with you during these almost 3 years. I want to thank Aj especially for having done everything he did (ROMS, many tips and more), giving X2 a survival. Thank you all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congratulations! Would like to hear your report back/experience once you get your device! Thanks.

mac231us said:
Congratulations! Would like to hear your report back/experience once you get your device! Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As soon as I have it on hand, I will test it and tell you the first impressions about the device.

THE HUAWEI HONOR NOTE 10 HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY RELEASED RELASED.
* Screen size is 6.95" @ 6.2 x 3.0 having 18.5:9 aspect ratio - MOST DISAPPOINTING part compared to X2
* Battery is 5000mAh Li-Po - Awesome
* CPU is Kirin 970 w/ PC water-cooling technology
* USB C
* No 3.5mm Headphone jack
PRICE STARTS AT $410USD for 6GB/64GB version available in black or blue.
If anyone has a connection to get a discount, please PM me
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

Germano1980 said:
As soon as I have it on hand, I will test it and tell you the first impressions about the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ended up ordering it as well-getting it on Thursday in less than 2 days
got the X2 too...must say the X2 with 6.0 Android (32GB) is so smooth-not sure what folks see in these new devices but the x2 is simply outstanding and has awesome battery life all with 2015 technology! ui is smooth no jitters nothing am not a gamer and don't watch movies etc on phones so cannot comment on that but having used over 25-30 different models in the past few years (even Windows Phone Nokia 1520 and BB Passport, and various Android models Samsung, Oppo, Huawei etc the X2 is simply too good! keeping it!
edit had the x2 when it first came out in 2015 (703, 16gb) impressed me then but the s/w was not as polished as now but recall it had a great camera and battery life back then too....happy I got one again and this time the 702 with 32gb (used but practically new)
---------- Post added at 06:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------
honor note 10 18.5/9 is just nonsense....max 3 much better but the x2 is the best (will see what the max 3 holds but knowing it has the same screen width as a Samsung galaxy mega 6.3 width, know pretty much what it will look and operate like from a page viewing standpoint...in that sense the 16/9 6.8 asus zu680kl, the p8 max were best but both lack requisite netw bands (former dropped calls and was not good at transitioning between bands in my area) and no development whatsever...

---------- Post added at 01:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:56 AM ----------
[/COLOR]
E--Man said:
THE HUAWEI HONOR NOTE 10 HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY RELEASED RELASED.
* Screen size is 6.95" @ 6.2 x 3.0 having 18.5:9 aspect ratio - MOST DISAPPOINTING part compared to X2
* Battery is 5000mAh Li-Po - Awesome
* CPU is Kirin 970 w/ PC water-cooling technology
* USB C
* No 3.5mm Headphone jack
PRICE STARTS AT $410USD for 6GB/64GB version available in black or blue.
If anyone has a connection to get a discount, please PM me
View attachment 4562180
View attachment 4562181
View attachment 4562182
View attachment 4562183
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Although it does not like the 18: 9 aspect (still more 18.5: 9), it seems to be an excellent device. The difficult thing is to unlock the bootloader, since Huawei no longer supports unlocking, making it even more difficult than X2.
---------- Post added at 01:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 AM ----------
mac231us said:
I ended up ordering it as well-getting it on Thursday in less than 2 days
got the X2 too...must say the X2 with 6.0 Android (32GB) is so smooth-not sure what folks see in these new devices but the x2 is simply outstanding and has awesome battery life all with 2015 technology! ui is smooth no jitters nothing am not a gamer and don't watch movies etc on phones so cannot comment on that but having used over 25-30 different models in the past few years (even Windows Phone Nokia 1520 and BB Passport, and various Android models Samsung, Oppo, Huawei etc the X2 is simply too good! keeping it!
edit had the x2 when it first came out in 2015 (703, 16gb) impressed me then but the s/w was not as polished as now but recall it had a great camera and battery life back then too....happy I got one again and this time the 702 with 32gb (used but practically new)
---------- Post added at 06:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------
honor note 10 18.5/9 is just nonsense....max 3 much better but the x2 is the best (will see what the max 3 holds but knowing it has the same screen width as a Samsung galaxy mega 6.3 width, know pretty much what it will look and operate like from a page viewing standpoint...in that sense the 16/9 6.8 asus zu680kl, the p8 max were best but both lack requisite netw bands (former dropped calls and was not good at transitioning between bands in my area) and no development whatsever...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really like X2. It's the best I've had so far, except for EMUI, which for me, prevents the device from being better.

ajsmsg78 said:
If it were me and both had LTE support where I live I'd probably go with the Mi Max 3. The original Mi Max was the best phone I've ever owned. It was inexpensive and fast and had plenty of custom roms. Good luck unlocking the bootloader and rooting with the Huawei Note 10. Even going back to the stock rom with a Huawei device is a chore. The Mediapad X2 has a 16:10 aspect ratio. The snapdragon 6 series is faster than you think.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AJ, some people in the following thread are saying that they have successfully managed to unlock Huawei bootloaders without getting the unlock code from Huawei. Do you think this could work for newer devices like the Note 10?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/9-lite/how-to/guide-unlock-frp-phone-bootlooping-t3808650
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

Question Huawei P50 PRO where to buy?

Hey,
Do You know when and in what online shops will be available to buy? I'm waiting for European premiere, but if it will be online - i can buy from China.
Greetings

From what I read it will be available starting August 12th. Most likely only for China, and the global variant should be released some time later.
I'll wait a couple weeks for user reviews, mainly to find out whether it's possible to install Google services on HarmonyOS. Apparently it's possible on CHINESE variants of the Mate 40, with the Lzplay app (or whatever it's called). For global variants, gotta use GSpace which is not ideal.
EDIT: pre-order available on aliexpress HERE. Price is a bit high though.

Hello. Any news about Chinese variant and harmonyos running or not Google? I'm crazy about this phone.

Tradingshenzhen is selling som devices right now

jericho246 said:
From what I read it will be available starting August 12th. Most likely only for China, and the global variant should be released some time later.
I'll wait a couple weeks for user reviews, mainly to find out whether it's possible to install Google services on HarmonyOS. Apparently it's possible on CHINESE variants of the Mate 40, with the Lzplay app (or whatever it's called). For global variants, gotta use GSpace which is not ideal.
EDIT: pre-order available on aliexpress HERE. Price is a bit high though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you saying that with the mate if you wanted google you were better off with the Chinese version? i see the Chinese version is available but was afraid to buy it for compatibility in the usa

Hi.
I live in Sanya, China.
I recently bought 2 Huawei P50 Pros here to send to my friends in Russia and while testing them, I got quite disappointed. I even made a short review on my youtube channel (Mark Victorson).
They're overheating crazily, and in general, while cameras are the only reason one might want a Huawei phone, the video performance is seriously underwhelming.
And I don't recommend getting the China version with Kirin.
Wait for the global release. Or PM me if you can't live without the phone, I'll give you contacts of ppl who can buy and send the phone from China

drzewoid said:
Hey,
Do You know when and in what online shops will be available to buy? I'm waiting for European premiere, but if it will be online - i can buy from China.
Greetings
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it looks like the wait in our country will be a long one, the right decision if you want to submit it online.

saved-j said:
Hi.
I live in Sanya, China.
I recently bought 2 Huawei P50 Pros here to send to my friends in Russia and while testing them, I got quite disappointed. I even made a short review on my youtube channel (Mark Victorson).
They're overheating crazily, and in general, while cameras are the only reason one might want a Huawei phone, the video performance is seriously underwhelming.
And I don't recommend getting the China version with Kirin.
Wait for the global release. Or PM me if you can't live without the phone, I'll give you contacts of ppl who can buy and send the phone from China
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi thanks for the info. can you explain more why you recommend waiting for the global version?

tensux said:
Hi thanks for the info. can you explain more why you recommend waiting for the global version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Harmony os - hopefully the global version will have full fledged android 11 not the piece of android 10 they call a new os
2. Camera is underwhelming. Omnivision sensors are inferior to Sony. The quality and color science difference between the wide, main and tele lens are not in sync - shooting with all three makes you feel like you shoot on three different devices, so great the difference is. Video is still 30mbps in 4k...srsly? SONY gives 85!
3. Heat dissipation on Kirin is terrible, it drops from 300gips to 100gips in 9 minutes of CPU throttling test.
Hopefully the global version with Snapdragon will result in a better experience.

saved-j said:
Hi.
I live in Sanya, China.
I recently bought 2 Huawei P50 Pros here to send to my friends in Russia and while testing them, I got quite disappointed. I even made a short review on my youtube channel (Mark Victorson).
They're overheating crazily, and in general, while cameras are the only reason one might want a Huawei phone, the video performance is seriously underwhelming.
And I don't recommend getting the China version with Kirin.
Wait for the global release. Or PM me if you can't live without the phone, I'll give you contacts of ppl who can buy and send the phone from China
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, what is the battery life like ? How does it compare with the honor magic 3 pro plus? Are the cameras better on the p50 pro or on honor magic 3 pro plus? Which of the 2 devices would you recommend for overall everyday use (camera, speed, battery life, Heating). You mentioned the p50 pro gets hot, is that the same with the honor magic 3 pro plus?

Mate40 pro is not a better choice ??

Thanos88 said:
Hi, what is the battery life like ? How does it compare with the honor magic 3 pro plus? Are the cameras better on the p50 pro or on honor magic 3 pro plus? Which of the 2 devices would you recommend for overall everyday use (camera, speed, battery life, Heating). You mentioned the p50 pro gets hot, is that the same with the honor magic 3 pro plus?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Overall I'd recommend honor. It shoots better videos, its screen is better, it never heats up, its face id works in darkness. The only downside - it's a step behind p50pro in photography. Battery life is not bad on the both, but I can't say anything particular because i only had the devices for a week, and then sent them to Russia.

saved-j said:
Overall I'd recommend honor. It shoots better videos, its screen is better, it never heats up, its face id works in darkness. The only downside - it's a step behind p50pro in photography. Battery life is not bad on the both, but I can't say anything particular because i only had the devices for a week, and then sent them to Russia.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I appreciate that response thanks bro !

Lol wow. I have the phone, it's typical huawei goodness.
Hot? Not at all, it's same as any other normal phone concerning heat, camera is excellent! As expected, slightly better than by mate x2 camera which was also great. P50 pro ain't seen as the best phone camera right now for nothing.
Battery life again is typically great! It's a small battery, 4360 I believe, but it's roughly 8+ hours on screen time for a complete full charge.
I'm amazed at these statements

lawtq said:
Lol wow. I have the phone, it's typical huawei goodness.
Hot? Not at all, it's same as any other normal phone concerning heat, camera is excellent! As expected, slightly better than by mate x2 camera which was also great. P50 pro ain't seen as the best phone camera right now for nothing.
Battery life again is typically great! It's a small battery, 4360 I believe, but it's roughly 8+ hours on screen time for a complete full charge.
I'm amazed at these statements
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, do you own the p50 pro? Sorry couldn't tell by your comment.

Thanos88 said:
Hey, do you own the p50 pro? Sorry couldn't tell by your comment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do. It's nice. Surprised by how really flat and thin it feels. Wish it was thicket. Feels much better with the amazon case I got for it
WATACHE for Huawei P50 Pro Case,Heavy Duty Dual Layer Soft TPU Inner + Hard PC Shell Rugged Protective Shockproof Case with Built-in Stand for Huawei P50 Pro,Gray: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
WATACHE for Huawei P50 Pro Case,Heavy Duty Dual Layer Soft TPU Inner + Hard PC Shell Rugged Protective Shockproof Case with Built-in Stand for Huawei P50 Pro,Gray: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
www.amazon.co.uk
The comments bashing it above are not true for me at all.

lawtq said:
I do. It's nice. Surprised by how really flat and thin it feels. Wish it was thicket. Feels much better with the amazon case I got for it
WATACHE for Huawei P50 Pro Case,Heavy Duty Dual Layer Soft TPU Inner + Hard PC Shell Rugged Protective Shockproof Case with Built-in Stand for Huawei P50 Pro,Gray: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
WATACHE for Huawei P50 Pro Case,Heavy Duty Dual Layer Soft TPU Inner + Hard PC Shell Rugged Protective Shockproof Case with Built-in Stand for Huawei P50 Pro,Gray: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
www.amazon.co.uk
The comments bashing it above are not true for me at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How much did you pay for it?
I've been told that photos are excellent but video recording is underwhelming, can you confirm?
Is there a 90hz option or only 60hz/120hz?
How many updates have you received so far ?
Does that 8 hours sot involve gaming or just normal usage?
How much battery do you lose overnight/idle?
8 hours is decent SOT, but I'm used to my 14 hours on the Rog 5 unfortunately there's no reviews on the p50 pro so I'm still undecided.

Thanos88 said:
How much did you pay for it?
I've been told that photos are excellent but video recording is underwhelming, can you confirm?
Is there a 90hz option or only 60hz/120hz?
How many updates have you received so far ?
Does that 8 hours sot involve gaming or just normal usage?
How much battery do you lose overnight/idle?
8 hours is decent SOT, but I'm used to my 14 hours on the Rog 5 unfortunately there's no reviews on the p50 pro so I'm still undecided.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Paid about £870 from Alibaba
Pics are the best, full stop! Videos are good, iPhone still king
No it's only 60hz or 120hz dynamic. No 90hz
I think its been about 2 updates since I bought
It's 8 hours very conservative. Uses about 10% per hour
Losses about 3% overnight

lawtq said:
Paid about £870 from Alibaba
Pics are the best, full stop! Videos are good, iPhone still king
No it's only 60hz or 120hz dynamic. No 90hz
I think its been about 2 updates since I bought
It's 8 hours very conservative. Uses about 10% per hour
Losses about 3% overnight
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you again for the info !
I've just had a look online & it's looking likely that Huawei will launch the Mate 50 pro on October 21st
I'll wait for that if they don't end up releasing the mate 50 pro I'll just buy the p50 pro, prices will be lower too. I was hoping for the p50 pro plus version but doubt that will ever come out

Thanos88 said:
Thank you again for the info !
I've just had a look online & it's looking likely that Huawei will launch the Mate 50 pro on October 21st
I'll wait for that if they don't end up releasing the mate 50 pro I'll just buy the p50 pro, prices will be lower too. I was hoping for the p50 pro plus version but doubt that will ever come out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might as well wait the mate 50 Pro. Probably coming around the same time