GSMArena side-by-side specifications comparison
I'm posting this thread from the perspective of someone who owns and loves an Honor 8, and is having to evaluate these 2 devices as the primary options for my next phone.
Key differences:
LTE bands: H9 (Europe: 1,3,5,7,8,20) vs OP5 (1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,66)
Body size: H9 (147.3 x 70.9 x 7.5) vs OP5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.3)
Screen size: H9 (5.15) vs OP5 (5.5)
Screen type: H9 (IPS) vs OP5 (AMOLED)
Chipset: H9 (Kirin) vs OP5 (Snapdragon)
Cameras: Objective differences are irrelevant for cameras, we'll just have to wait on side-by-side comparison reviews, preliminarily it looks like these may have similar quality.
Storage: Internal (same), MicroSD: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Infrared: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Key factors:
- The Honor 8 was significantly less expensive than the OnePlus 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OnePlus 5.
- The Honor 8 had a significantly better camera than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is looking to be similar to the OP 5.
- Price: The Honor 8 was about 25-50% less expensive than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OP 5.
- No MicroSD slot in the OP 5
It's unfortunate, because I really like my Honor 8, but I don't think the Honor 9 is a good purchase compared to the OnePlus 5. Pretty much all over the internet and social media I have told people to buy an Honor 8 (and instead of a OnePlus 3T) but I don't think I can carry over that recommendation to this generation of phones. If the Honor 9 launches in the US with appropriate LTE bands and at a price 25-30% lower than the OnePlus 5, it will be a close decision on what to buy. But at the current pricing, I think the OnePlus 5 is the clear choice between the two.
Thoughts? What are you all planning to do?
I used to have the Honor 8, but I had to get rid of it because I couldn't stand the software, even after Android 7 update. I was able to simply swipe past the Android Device Manager lost phone screen because it wasn't integrated right with EMUI. There were other issues like bluetooth delayed syncing. The software experience from stock Android is just so much better so I would recommend waiting for the OnePlus 5T in October.
I ended up buying the Note 5 Duos after using the G6, after deciding to not get the S8. All of these four phones (Note5, G6, Honor9, OP5) have the same price and should be considered. It's crazy because I found I tolerate the Samsung UI with Android 7 more than LG, and some of the features like changing to 720p and 1080p resolution are killer features for me.
Telperion said:
GSMArena side-by-side specifications comparison
I'm posting this thread from the perspective of someone who owns and loves an Honor 8, and is having to evaluate these 2 devices as the primary options for my next phone.
Key differences:
LTE bands: H9 (Europe: 1,3,5,7,8,20) vs OP5 (1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,66)
Body size: H9 (147.3 x 70.9 x 7.5) vs OP5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.3)
Screen size: H9 (5.15) vs OP5 (5.5)
Screen type: H9 (IPS) vs OP5 (AMOLED)
Chipset: H9 (Kirin) vs OP5 (Snapdragon)
Cameras: Objective differences are irrelevant for cameras, we'll just have to wait on side-by-side comparison reviews, preliminarily it looks like these may have similar quality.
Storage: Internal (same), MicroSD: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Infrared: H9 (Yes) vs OP5 (No)
Key factors:
- The Honor 8 was significantly less expensive than the OnePlus 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OnePlus 5.
- The Honor 8 had a significantly better camera than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is looking to be similar to the OP 5.
- Price: The Honor 8 was about 25-50% less expensive than the OP 3T; the Honor 9 is the same price as the OP 5.
- No MicroSD slot in the OP 5
It's unfortunate, because I really like my Honor 8, but I don't think the Honor 9 is a good purchase compared to the OnePlus 5. Pretty much all over the internet and social media I have told people to buy an Honor 8 (and instead of a OnePlus 3T) but I don't think I can carry over that recommendation to this generation of phones. If the Honor 9 launches in the US with appropriate LTE bands and at a price 25-30% lower than the OnePlus 5, it will be a close decision on what to buy. But at the current pricing, I think the OnePlus 5 is the clear choice between the two.
Thoughts? What are you all planning to do?
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for me... the microSD killed any chance of me getting a OnePlus 5. in some parts of the world (like where i live), mobile data isn't cheap and fast. doing things "on the cloud" just don't cut it. so, i'd love to have as much storage as possible. also, with camera now able to record at high resolution, it will take up space. i'm not the type that wanna copy out my videos every few days. i can be lazy and do it once every few weeks or so. so, again, storage means a lot to me and having microSD is wonderful.
but... i'm also a AMOLED fan. sadly, i think only time i've seen huawei/ honor with amoled is on the P9Plus. i do hope huawei will look into manufacturing AMOLED screens. having said that, between microSD and AMOLED. i would pick microSD anytime.
one consideration that probably weighs in as important is the size. 5.5" vs 5.2" is quite a big difference.
I've heard very good of OP5, despite I don't like they've increased the price so much. Previous versions were more tight. The starting price of 500€ is not good.
The Honor 9 looks good option, cheaper (449€) and including a sports band. About performance and camera still not sure...
OP5 has 6 GB of RAM and AMOLED display.
Honor 9 has micro SD card support, infrared and is cheaper.
Still considering Xiaomi Mi 6... Which also has infrared, 6 GB of RAM and it's the cheapest of all three.
Thoughts please?
mdabar said:
The Honor 9 looks good option, cheaper (449€) and including a sports band. About performance and camera still not sure...
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Looks like sports band action is over, there is no more banner on vmall.eu store.
In mean time you still could have 30 EUR cashback until 4 of August. Which brings price of phone to 400 EUR.
I had 3 oneplus 5's within 14 days and all had issues so sold the 3rd and got the honor 9 and couldn't be happier
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Looks like sports band action is over, there is no more banner on vmall.eu store.
In mean time you still could have 30 EUR cashback until 4 of August. Which brings price of phone to 400 EUR.
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It's weird, that may be the case for Germany... In Spanish shop you still have the band, nothing about the cashbacks.
Anyway cashback is not common practice in Spain.
I definitely think I'll take this phone.
What about battery? Are speakers good enough?
I've heard that screen is not enough bright. Can you confirm/deny?
Thanks guys for comments. ?
mdabar said:
It's weird, that may be the case for Germany... In Spanish shop you still have the band, nothing about the cashbacks.
Anyway cashback is not common practice in Spain.
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Oh, you right. Cashback is only for Germany. I thought it is EU wide action, sorry.
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DoobyDroid said:
I had 3 oneplus 5's within 14 days and all had issues so sold the 3rd and got the honor 9 and couldn't be happier
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What was the issues? And how exactly Honor 9 is better for you than OP5?
master_of_shadows said:
Oh, you right. Cashback is only for Germany. I thought it is EU wide action, sorry.
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What was the issues? And how exactly Honor 9 is better for you than OP5?
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Random request boots, heat issues, connectivity issues, judder scrolling,
Honor 9 for me better to hold very smooth looks nicer as well
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For long term development of community, OP5 is far far better than Honor 9...
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For long term development of community, OP5 is far far better than Honor 9...
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Maybe for the short-term, but not necessarily for the longterm. OnePlus has been a real trend (very attractive) for the past years. They have suddenly increased a lot the price, so lot of people will see it a little bit less interesting.
However Honor is proving to be right on the mid-range price but with good results and feedback from people (from what I've heard/read). I'm quite recent to check about Honor (and probably will buy it this week) but first thing I saw in here is that you have a few ROMs for the Honor 8. It means that we will probably have even more for the Honor 9... and once you have CM or Lineage more will definitely come. :good:
jerryhou85 said:
For long term development of community, OP5 is far far better than Honor 9...
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I'd rather have a phone that works properly, development will grow with time let's not forget it's only just been released and didn't even need an update on release and still hasn't as it doesn't need atm everything working as it should 3 updates the op5 had from release and still problems, I lost faith in 1+ after 3 devices all had different issues, and support is lame,
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mdabar said:
Maybe for the short-term, but not necessarily for the longterm. OnePlus has been a real trend (very attractive) for the past years. They have suddenly increased a lot the price, so lot of people will see it a little bit less interesting.
However Honor is proving to be right on the mid-range price but with good results and feedback from people (from what I've heard/read). I'm quite recent to check about Honor (and probably will buy it this week) but first thing I saw in here is that you have a few ROMs for the Honor 8. It means that we will probably have even more for the Honor 9... and once you have CM or Lineage more will definitely come. :good:
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Well, that's case by case, though. Honor 8 certainly has received more love than its litter brother, Honor 6X. Honor 6X's Android N is not coming out soon due to no source yet from HUAWEI for EMUI5.
Huawei is releasing many devices a year, not sure what is their detailed policy...
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DoobyDroid said:
I'd rather have a phone that works properly, development will grow with time let's not forget it's only just been released and didn't even need an update on release and still hasn't as it doesn't need atm everything working as it should 3 updates the op5 had from release and still problems, I lost faith in 1+ after 3 devices all had different issues, and support is lame,
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I understand what you mean, especially after recent OP2 Android N update dropped, but at this moment, 1+ still has better developer community than HUAWEI Honor. But things may change in future, which is not clear yet.
jerryhou85 said:
Well, that's case by case, though. Honor 8 certainly has received more love than its litter brother, Honor 6X. Honor 6X's Android N is not coming out soon due to no source yet from HUAWEI for EMUI5.
Huawei is releasing many devices a year, not sure what is their detailed policy...
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I understand what you mean, especially after recent OP2 Android N update dropped, but at this moment, 1+ still has better developer community than HUAWEI Honor. But things may change in future, which is not clear yet.
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In my experience many devices per year is not a good strategy... unless you have the muscle of Samsung for instance.
I look to Elephone... awful experiences always (different people), is there is always something that won't work after a short period. And there is no support at all. With every new device, the promise a lot: updates, custom ROMs,... nothing of that has ever happened. Devices are simply forgotten after the launching.
Xiaomi is somehow different, since they keep updating MIUI for their devices even after some long time. My Redmi Note 2 Prime is still getting updates (despite still using Android 5.0.2 as the core).
About OP I've heard mixed reactions. A friend is really happy with the OP5, not a single issue for the time being. For every model people tells me "When I got it, it wasn't working very fine, I was even thinking on selling or returning it, but after the official OTA update, it's a new phone and now it's working amazingly well"... but still they increased the price too much.
For the moment I've received and read very good feedback about Honor. So I'll take the bet! I'm travelling now, so will order just before arriving home next week
mdabar said:
In my experience many devices per year is not a good strategy... unless you have the muscle of Samsung for instance.
I look to Elephone... awful experiences always (different people), is there is always something that won't work after a short period. And there is no support at all. With every new device, the promise a lot: updates, custom ROMs,... nothing of that has ever happened. Devices are simply forgotten after the launching.
Xiaomi is somehow different, since they keep updating MIUI for their devices even after some long time. My Redmi Note 2 Prime is still getting updates (despite still using Android 5.0.2 as the core).
About OP I've heard mixed reactions. A friend is really happy with the OP5, not a single issue for the time being. For every model people tells me "When I got it, it wasn't working very fine, I was even thinking on selling or returning it, but after the official OTA update, it's a new phone and now it's working amazingly well"... but still they increased the price too much.
For the moment I've received and read very good feedback about Honor. So I'll take the bet! I'm travelling now, so will order just before arriving home next week
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Well, good luck for you on Honor. :highfive:
You will find EMUI is different from MIUI, but not a lot. And HUAWEI does have some unique apps to try on. :laugh:
Hahaha thanks @jerryhou85 I really hope to enjoy it
I don't buy phones, where the screen is build in upside-down. Waited so long for OP5 since I am a OPO user but I started a collection thread about bugs and decided to go with Honor
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OK, maybe it's a subset of groups, but the quest for the Holy Grail >6" and <7" Phone continues.
There are a few mid-ranges like Oppo R2 plus, Lenova is just Phab, but a good truly modifiable flag ship type phone seems out of grasp (your mileage may vary). [I actually have been swapping back and forth between the X2 and Note4 enough to make my head spin. I love the customization on the Note4 (use TekHD and OverDrive). BUT 6.3" seems like the perfect sweet spot between the X2 and the Note4.]
Posting this thread to not dirty up the MediaPad/Honor X2 where did you buy from thread.
This is NOT intended to be a love what I got, it's better than you want thread. IF you are satisfied and want to defend your current purchase please go to those forums and express your deep love there.
This is for looking at what's next and what HAS USA LTE bands,
So some initial contenders.
1) The cool LeTV LeMax. Super cool actually, but misses the US LTE criteria which only partially reduces the pangs of want).
ajsmsg78 said:
...I was looking at another phone I think I want to buy called the LeTV LeMax. It's a 6.3 inch phone similar to our X2 but a fingerprint scanner, NFC, faster CPU, and 21MP Camera....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gsQs_2Vf2k
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... There is a dev thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/letv-one-max1-x900-main-thread-t3170154/page78...
Now the Rumor Mill. There is supposed to be a LeTV LeMax 2. It should have all bands, but they are talking shrinking the screen. :crying:
2) Next up is the Huawei Mate 8
Huawei Mate 8 Price Leaks For Two Versions Ahead Of Nov. 26 Launch
A flagship in the dark which should be public 28 Nov.
How a company does a 6P, Mate S, and now the Mate 8 as THE Flagship, but I'll like it if it is bigger than the 6" and does US LTE
3) So amongst the many Huawei flagships comes the P9 Max, which may be the favorite here in this forum as a successor phone.
P9 Max (6.2" sweet spot). Hope they are smart enough to include us dumb Americans.
4) Maybe the Vivo X6 also?
Vivo X6
Thoughts?
Rudolpht said:
OK, maybe it's a subset of groups, but the quest for the Holy Grail >6" and <7" Phone continues.
There are a few mid-ranges like Oppo R2 plus, Lenova is just Phab, but a good truly modifiable flag ship type phone seems out of grasp (your mileage may vary). [I actually have been swapping back and forth between the X2 and Note4 enough to make my head spin. I love the customization on the Note4 (use TekHD and OverDrive). BUT 6.3" seems like the perfect sweet spot between the X2 and the Note4.]
Posting this thread to not dirty up the MediaPad/Honor X2 where did you buy from thread.
This is NOT intended to be a love what I got, it's better than you want thread. IF you are satisfied and want to defend your current purchase please go to those forums and express your deep love there.
This is for looking at what's next and what HAS USA LTE bands,
So some initial contenders.
1) The cool LeTV LeMax. Super cool actually, but misses the US LTE criteria which only partially reduces the pangs of want).
... There is a dev thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/letv-one-max1-x900-main-thread-t3170154/page78...
Now the Rumor Mill. There is supposed to be a LeTV LeMax 2. It should have all bands, but they are talking shrinking the screen. :crying:
2) Next up is the Huawei Mate 8
Huawei Mate 8 Price Leaks For Two Versions Ahead Of Nov. 26 Launch
A flagship in the dark which should be public 28 Nov.
How a company does a 6P, Mate S, and now the Mate 8 as THE Flagship, but I'll like it if it is bigger than the 6" and does US LTE
3) So amongst the many Huawei flagships comes the P9 Max, which may be the favorite here in this forum as a successor phone.
P9 Max (6.2" sweet spot). Hope they are smart enough to include us dumb Americans.
4) Maybe the Vivo X6 also?
Vivo X6
Thoughts?
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My only thought is that a 7 inch screen with a 16:10 ratio IS the sweet spot for me, so if it's any smaller or bigger I'm not really interested. Unfortunately that rather restricts my choices, so it's a good job I'm happy with my X2 for now!
Moandal said:
My only thought is that a 7 inch screen with a 16:10 ratio IS the sweet spot for me, so if it's any smaller or bigger I'm not really interested. Unfortunately that rather restricts my choices, so it's a good job I'm happy with my X2 for now!
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If it had US LTE it would and the 702 took custom ROMs easily, it would probably be next to perfect for me, but looking for discussion on other devices.
Rudolpht said:
OK, maybe it's a subset of groups, but the quest for the Holy Grail >6" and <7" Phone continues.
There are a few mid-ranges like Oppo R2 plus, Lenova is just Phab, but a good truly modifiable flag ship type phone seems out of grasp (your mileage may vary). [I actually have been swapping back and forth between the X2 and Note4 enough to make my head spin. I love the customization on the Note4 (use TekHD and OverDrive). BUT 6.3" seems like the perfect sweet spot between the X2 and the Note4.]
Posting this thread to not dirty up the MediaPad/Honor X2 where did you buy from thread.
This is NOT intended to be a love what I got, it's better than you want thread. IF you are satisfied and want to defend your current purchase please go to those forums and express your deep love there.
This is for looking at what's next and what HAS USA LTE bands,
So some initial contenders.
1) The cool LeTV LeMax. Super cool actually, but misses the US LTE criteria which only partially reduces the pangs of want).
... There is a dev thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/letv-one-max1-x900-main-thread-t3170154/page78...
Now the Rumor Mill. There is supposed to be a LeTV LeMax 2. It should have all bands, but they are talking shrinking the screen. :crying:
2) Next up is the Huawei Mate 8
Huawei Mate 8 Price Leaks For Two Versions Ahead Of Nov. 26 Launch
A flagship in the dark which should be public 28 Nov.
How a company does a 6P, Mate S, and now the Mate 8 as THE Flagship, but I'll like it if it is bigger than the 6" and does US LTE
3) So amongst the many Huawei flagships comes the P9 Max, which may be the favorite here in this forum as a successor phone.
P9 Max (6.2" sweet spot). Hope they are smart enough to include us dumb Americans.
4) Maybe the Vivo X6 also?
Vivo X6
Thoughts?
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When I purchased my X2 I actually wanted a P8 Max but the price was too high for me to drop the money on since it still didn't have LTE support here as well as the X2 having a larger battery helped make my decision. The Phab plus has too small of a battery for me to think about buying one. If the Mate 8 comes with full LTE support I'd probably buy one of those as well as the P9 Max. I'm looking for my next purchase to have LTE support as well as band 12 support now that it's pretty prevalent here on Long Island where I live. I'd like something around 6.2" to use as a daily driver and something 6.8 to 7 inches to use as well. I'll probably just stick to the X2 because I like it a lot. My Nexus 6 doesn't get the best battery life and that's the main reason I will sell it. Oh, and it's ONLY 6", lol. The problem is, on many forums I see people complaining that a phone is too big and they ask how others can use something so big. That annoys me as there are PLENTY of smaller phones out there as well as plenty of 5.5-5.7 inch phones as well but not too many over 6 inches.
The 24th and 26th coming up for some announcements.
I don't know if the P9 Max will be discussed or held until MWC.
I was on a trip this week and the lack of LTE really impacted me, compared to my work iPhone (blehck).
Ok, the Mate 8 is outted formally
Wow. If the 8 follows the Mate S trend to support the ATT/GSM frequency bands, this graduates from could buy to must buy. Only the P9 Max vaporware would hold me back.
Happy Thanksgiving all.
Huawei Mate 8 Hands On: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzHybzpuKWw
If the Mate 8 comes to my country (U.S.) then I will definitely be buying one to replace my Nexus 6. Then hopefully the P9 Max or Mediapad X3 support LTE here and if they do I'll be buying one of those as well. I'm really liking the design of some of these Chinese phones. They are much nicer than almost all the stuff they force down your throat here in the U.S and the batteries are much larger.
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If the Mate 8 comes to my country (U.S.) then I will definitely be buying one to replace my Nexus 6. Then hopefully the P9 Max or Mediapad X3 support LTE here and if they do I'll be buying one of those as well. I'm really liking the design of some of these Chinese phones. They are much nicer than almost all the stuff they force down your throat here in the U.S and the batteries are much larger.
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Agreed, somehow the Chinese phones have adopted a modern looking industrial design than what Samsung and LG are putting out in their flagship products. The design of the X2 attracted me immediately, as it looks like what I hoped the 2013 Nexus 7 would be. And it's a phone as well!
Anyway, I'm really liking the designs that Huawei, Meizu and Xiaomi are coming out with these days. I remember having a Meizu M6 MP3 player almost 10 years ago that had a surprisingly compelling design that mixed the iPod Nano and iPod Video. Them were the days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meizu_M6_miniPlayer
ajsmsg78 said:
If the Mate 8 comes to my country (U.S.) then I will definitely be buying one to replace my Nexus 6. Then hopefully the P9 Max or Mediapad X3 support LTE here and if they do I'll be buying one of those as well. I'm really liking the design of some of these Chinese phones. ....
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I will trade in my Note 4 for a Mate 8 and maybe X2 for an X3 predicated on US LTE support. I agree the designs are going upscale, and beating the US in battery and other Phablet features. The Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 and Gionee GN8001 would sell here I think if local LTE supported.
More on the P9 Max https://www.whatech.com/mobile/reviews/111433-huawei-p9-max-big-on-everything-6-2-inch-quad-hd-screen-fast-octa-core-with-4gb-ram-and-20mp-5mp-camera
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More on the P9 Max https://www.whatech.com/mobile/revi...st-octa-core-with-4gb-ram-and-20mp-5mp-camera
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The screenshot says it has a 16:10 2560x1600 screen but the article says it has a 16:9 2560x1440 screen. Which one is it? I'm guessing it's 16:9 as 1440p panels are likely more common at that screen size than 1600p. Either way, I think 1440p/1600p panels make more sense on larger screens than on the current crop of 5-5.7 inch phones.
I hope Huawei doesn't discontinue the Mediapad X series however, just because it is so unique.
Review of LeTV Le Max. More disappointing than I expected. http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/12/featured-review-letv-le-max-x900.html
Xperia Z6 will include an Ultra version with a 6.4 inch screen. The last Xperia Z Ultra phone was in 2013, with a 1080P 6.44" screen.
http://www.gsmarena.com/a_total_of_5_sony_xperia_z6s_expected_a_4inch_mini_among_them-news-15343.php
I saw that today also. There is a press conference at CES which was thought to be tge Z5 Ultra. I owned the Z Ultra and has been painful watching the 5 successive models go by. We'll see what rumors come true.
For some reason I have never liked Sony's Phones. I had a Z Ultra before the X2 and hated it so much I returned it. I hated the bezels being too large, I hated the undersized battery and I especially hated the door for the MicroUSB charger which ended up falling off constantly. If new Z Ultra has less bezel and a large battery I'd consider picking one up though.
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For some reason I have never liked Sony's Phones. I had a Z Ultra before the X2 and hated it so much I returned it. I hated the bezels being too large, I hated the undersized battery and I especially hated the door for the MicroUSB charger which ended up falling off constantly. If new Z Ultra has less bezel and a large battery I'd consider picking one up though.
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I'm kinda' anti-sony now, regardless. They were always good with replacement phones but my last one they said sorry, won't even fix (for the price of one on swappa). At this point I think a new Ultra may never come out despite Z5 & Z6 rumors. They didn't pan out for Z2 Ultra, Z3 Ultra, Z4 Ultra. It's actually part of the reason I'm waiting on you getting the 702L. I bricked the last "extra" ultra and don't want to do same with the 702L, which is more than a hold over phone with all the improvements by you and in the forum.
Rudolpht said:
I'm kinda' anti-sony now, regardless. They were always good with replacement phones but my last one they said sorry, won't even fix (for the price of one on swappa). At this point I think a new Ultra may never come out despite Z5 & Z6 rumors. They didn't pan out for Z2 Ultra, Z3 Ultra, Z4 Ultra. It's actually part of the reason I'm waiting on you getting the 702L. I bricked the last "extra" ultra and don't want to do same with the 702L, which is more than a hold over phone with all the improvements by you and in the forum.
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HA, I bricked the Ultra as well but not with software. I bought one of those magnetic charging cables for it and plugged it in upside down (it never said anywhere it couldn't be plugged in either way) and the phone shut off and that was all she wrote.
Yup, I was considering getting the Google Play edition of the Z Ultra, but the lack of camera flash (??!) and the enormous top and bottom bezels made it a non-starter. Part of me also thinks that a Z6 Ultra will ultimately be vaporware.
Sony Mobile isn't doing well at all, and I don't see how they would risk their brand name by attaching it to so many different models.
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Yup, I was considering getting the Google Play edition of the Z Ultra, but the lack of camera flash (??!) and the enormous top and bottom bezels made it a non-starter. Part of me also thinks that a Z6 Ultra will ultimately be vaporware.
Sony Mobile isn't doing well at all, and I don't see how they would risk their brand name by attaching it to so many different models.
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I forgot about the camera not having a flash. That was a big thing as well as I use the flash for a flashlight all the time. Let's hope they learned from their mistakes (although even the new models they just put out still have huge bezels.
hi there !
i would like to buy a new phone.
for the same price, i can have the Honor 8 or the galaxy S7 (not edge)
the two phones seems the same, i can notice one important thing : screen remplacement is lower for the Honor (45$ , samsung is more than 150 $ !! )
so is everyone agree with me ? for the same price, Honor 8 is better choice ?
Honor 8 is better choice
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Really depends on what you expect/want from your phone.
warindo said:
Honor 8 is better choice
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My fear is that honor 8 will be like a Xiaomi, nice on the paper, but not so good in real life.
1 year ago, i bought a Vernee Apollo Lite, nice on the paper... But very medium in real...
S7
S7. Much better camera and even better custom roms if you get Exynos version.
Honor 8
I will never own a device with physical navigation bar buttons, especially not one like Samsung that reverses them from every other Android device on the planet. Physical buttons alone are enough of a reason. Plus the Honor 8 will take pictures indistinguishable from the S7 at the sizes that anybody will actually be viewing them.
S7 exynos - otherwise get honor 8.
S7 snapdragon version has much worse battery life.
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S7. Much better camera and even better custom roms if you get Exynos version.
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No. The S7's camera is oversharpened, wirh plastic like effects on the photos.
I had both.
I saw 2 versions of S7 (930v and 930f , one of them is more expensive than the other..) but i cannot find a test about it, 930v vs 930f.... (And i will take the less expensive)
I also like the usb type C. only the honor have it.
And about photo quality, for me the both are same.
I agree, the honor seems better, even just a little bit. And Emui seems very nice. Also, i know samsung never update his systems and S7 will stay on android 7.
What about Physical buttons ? Where is the problem?
Sigray, wich one do you prefer ?
S7
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I saw 2 versions of S7 (930v and 930f , one of them is more expensive than the other..) but i cannot find a test about it, 930v vs 930f.... (And i will take the less expensive)
I also like the usb type C. only the honor have it.
And about photo quality, for me the both are same.
I agree, the honor seems better, even just a little bit. And Emui seems very nice. Also, i know samsung never update his systems and S7 will stay on android 7.
What about Physical buttons ? Where is the problem?
Sigray, wich one do you prefer ?
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Honor, of course.
You got me with this question
Couse I like the s7 and honor 8
I would love to have either one the same
But the only difference for me to choose from
Would be XDA support
But then again maybe more honor 8
You should if you can get them for the same price read much to know what to choose
So, good luck with this one
How about S8? [emoji14]
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How about S8? [emoji14]
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Look at the attachment about honor 8 and Mi6 and S8
Its better then some of honor 8 owners would say
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Look at the attachment about honor 8 and Mi6 and S8
Its better then some of honor 8 owners would say
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You truly believe that they made no significant technological advances from S7 to S8? Personally, I say benchmarks be damned. Plenty of articles out there too about how benchmarks don't really mean anything.
Well S8 is too expensive... This is a phone, remember ! Seriously, 800$ !!
The Mi6 is really nice but 2 problems : first its expensive, and second, he doesn't have 700 and 800 mhz frequency, and i need it in my country.
And finally, i 've just bought a Honor 8, for 168$ with a screen destroyed. I will change it for 40$ then he will looks like new phone
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Well S8 is too expensive... This is a phone, remember ! Seriously, 800$ !!
The Mi6 is really nice but 2 problems : first its expensive, and second, he doesn't have 700 and 800 mhz frequency, and i need it in my country.
And finally, i 've just bought a Honor 8, for 168$ with a screen destroyed. I will change it for 40$ then he will looks like new phone
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Let us know how it went with the screen replacement
If you did it or some else and how much did you pay for it
Maybe you could share already some pictures
It's really easy to do.
I can make pictures, but you should check on youtube, there are many videos about it.
Hii @bogarty
Yes I do believe that there was some of technological advances from S7 to S8
But I dont believe that it should be that high price for it anyway..
I just think that if thay see this year that people are paying for lets say 800 dollar phone they just raise the
price next year.. but it does not have be ( my opinion ) that it is becouse of technological advances
And I posted the geekbench bench becouse many consider geekbench better then antutu..
And it was lets say just for fun .. becouse you mentioned the S8
And I have to agree with you that benchmarks should be damned becouse I lately am looking
only on the specification and the real time you tube videos..
By the way.. I saw how honor 8 has in many tasks been faster then iPhone 7
I know it looks like this question has been asked before, but most of the answers revolve around OnePlus 3T being cheaper. But for some reason they cost the same in my country. so i want to know which one you'd choose if they were the same price.
I would really like to have the bigger screen of Mate 9, but I've heard that Huawei phones are not durable and will have lower performance after a while. is this true? this is a very important factor for me because i wont be able to buy another phone anytime soon, so i'll have to do with it for a time (preferably more than 2 years!).
Thank you ladies an gentlemen in advance for all your wise advice!
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I know it looks like this question has been asked before, but most of the answers revolve around OnePlus 3T being cheaper. But for some reason they cost the same in my country. so i want to know which one you'd choose if they were the same price.
I would really like to have the bigger screen of Mate 9, but I've heard that Huawei phones are not durable and will have lower performance after a while. is this true? this is a very important factor for me because i wont be able to buy another phone anytime soon, so i'll have to do with it for a time (preferably more than 2 years!).
Thank you ladies an gentlemen in advance for all your wise advice!
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Are you kidding me about Huawei durability? Also, lower performance? After a while??? Bro, I don't think you are talking about the Mate 9. https://youtu.be/-x7s_amjJso
The only thing OP3T has over the Mate 9 to me is development (custom ROMs) cos of the Qualcomm SoC, Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 960 is a beast but lacks outside support.
Being a security enthusiast, I want to have things like Kali Linux installed which I unfortunately can't.
Other than this reason, it's a smack down by Mate 9 over OP3T in every department (I don't care about OLED screens, this is just fine).
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Are you kidding me about Huawei durability? Also, lower performance? After a while??? Bro, I don't think you are talking about the Mate 9.
The only thing OP3T has over the Mate 9 to me is development (custom ROMs) cos of the Qualcomm SoC, Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 960 is a beast but lacks outside support.
Being a security enthusiast, I want to have things like Kali Linux installed which I unfortunately can't.
Other than this reason, it's a smack down by Mate 9 over OP3T in every department (I don't care about OLED screens, this is just fine).
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Thank you my friend. As i said, this is just something I've heard people say, and people who have only had mid-range Huawei phones. I am glad to hear that this is not the case with Mate 9. I'm not too worried about my security, and if the UI is fine (and it seems to be), i have no problem with not being able to install custom ROMs.
Thank you for helping me decide!
I had the OnePlus 3 not the 3t and I made the switch to the mate 9 and I have no regrets. The mate 9 is a super phone. The OnePlus is for ppl who likes to flash roms and I tried them all until I eventually got tired because it's more of the same. I love the battery on the mate 9! It all depends on what the user wants.
I switched from oneplus 3t.
Bigger screen, bigger battery, camera is way better. Custom ROMS? I`m fine with mate 9 rooted debloated stock
No I definetely dont regret about my oneplus 3t
Mate 9 easily. Bigger screen, bigger battery, faster charge, micro SD support. I've had both.
3T IS faster with 6 GB ram ( Comparitively I have 6GB Chinese model rebranded to USA of mate 9) but Battery life on 3T stinks compared to mate 9.
I think Mate 9 is still better than the last Oneplus 5.
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I have had the mate 9 for almost 3 months. I came from a LG G4 and it is a beast. I almost bought an op3t but the battery life and not overheating made me buy this phone. For me that was a must even playing high demanding games it runs cold.
Coming from an OP3, first I wanted to go back to my OP3, but gave the Mate 9 a chance.
After using the M9 for a week I couldn't go back...
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I went from the mate 9 to theOnePlus 3T via the G6 and the GS8. Put it this way: if the mate 9 had wifi calling (Tmobile), I would have never gotten any of the other phones I list. It's that good.
I came to the Mate 9 from the OnePlus 5, and the only thing I miss is the front-facing fingerprint sensor
So we all know the op6 is coming soon and many of us are hoping to upgrade our outdated devices,but with Oneplus success in the market in recent years, their prices are continuosly going up,,maybe by small amounts on each phone,may be a big rise with the op6,we don't know yet
Anyway.What if the op6 launches with a price you cant afford.
What alternative devices have you in mind.
I have more or less decided that I will get a nokia 7 plus if the op6 is too expensive because it has what I need.Big battery and promise of frequent updates.Ive considered the honor view 10 and mi mix 2s also
What other mid to high range devices are you considering if tbe op6 is out of reach ?
ASUS Zenfone 5
only galaxy s9+ with unlocked bootloader.
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
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What about the hardware? How can you ever bring this as an alternative?
Snapdragon 660? 4gig ram?
In this case xiaomi mi a1 is better, Android one
Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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Yes absolutely you are right,20 to 30% difference in price of 5t and 7+ depending what country your in.It will be interesting to see what happens with the op6,but as you say it will certainly be higher.
I have been researching a lot of different devices to replace my op3 lately.I look at all the reviews,watch the youtube videos and join the forums to see what users are saying.
If I was to buy a phone now based on hardware alone and value for money Id go for the Honor view 10 with the kerin 970,but Honor are poor with updates.The Zenphone 5z looks great,but I dont think it will be available in UK/Ireland till July.It will though be cheaper than the op6 and 5t.
The Nokia 7+ is out May 2nd on Amazon,Im hoping the op6 is announced before then so I can make an informed decision,but could be ridiculous prices in which case Ill happily go for the 7+ which should be more than good enough for day to day use, especially as a non gamer.I don't play around with Roms as much as I use to and will be happy eith tbe long battery life and regular updates.
I do like oxygen os though and Oneplus are great with updates and theres a great community.Will be interesting to see what happrns within tbe next month or two
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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+1
4 lenses ftw
Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I'm in the UK and I'm hoping for the Essential Phone 2 to come, otherwise pretty sure it will be the OnePlus 6, if it doesn't. I live in hope.
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Hoping to get the OnePlus in my country
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What country are you in? Has it not had OnePlus before?
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Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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same here looks like the 6 is going to be too expensive for me and the honor 10 does look really inviting now that it has been announced
If OnePlus 6 is a flagship killer, let's see what are available at the flagship level in my country at 64GB variant
835:
Pixel 2 XL - Rs.57,995
LG V30+ - Rs.44,990 (Only 128GB)
Nokia 8 Sirocco - Rs.49,900
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - Rs.67,900
Mi Mix 2 - Rs.32,999 (Only 128GB)
845:
OnePlus 6 - Expected around Rs.35,000
Samsung Galaxy s9/s9+ - Rs.57,900 / Rs.64,900
Kirin 970:
Honor v10 - Rs.29,999 (Only 128GB)
Huawei P20 Pro - Expected around Rs.50,000
Huawei P20 - Expected around Rs.30,000
The only problem which I see out for OP6 is the territory it's venturing into. Those who are spending north of 30k won't mind spending extra for getting what they needed. Mediocre Camera will definitely kill OP6 on arrival since every single unit there gives you the best. If Huawei P20 Pro comes around 40k. It'll cannibalize OP6 hands down. But i think Huawei P20 might be in OP6 territory and might give some serious trouble for them.
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
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For customization, I agree. OnePlus just does that better than all the other Android based smartphones out there. For other features though, I'm getting less and less impressed by their offerings each year, and when they get too expensive, I'll simply stop getting them,. I'll probably still get the 6 though, but if their prices get as high as iPhone level, I'm out.
I know it's not a new phone, as it's been out a while, but I quite liked the Razer Phone. So might get one of those if the OP6 doesn't impress me enough. But let's wait and see.
Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7 Pro, which seems to be a best of smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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It turns out that the Pixel 6 Pro uses the Shannon A5123 5G modem made by Samsung, the Shannon 5511 sub-6GHz FR1 transceiver box, and the Shannon 5710 FR2 mmWave transceiver. The latter is missing from the non-US versions of the Pixel 6 Pro.
Subject to confirmation, the Pixel 7 Pro is said to use Samsung's Exynos 5300 modem
We'll just have to wait and see what modem Google uses for the 7 series and the 7 Pro in particular
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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From what I've heard, it will have a new modem. That's why I nearly surely will get the 7 Pro.
I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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There are no sources so no Kernel/Rom, lenses are blocked so no gcam, and there is no msm download tool anymore,
Soo OP 10 pro is trash.
I want to like the P7P, I want to get one, but the more I look at it, the more I lean towards jumping ship for Samsung or most likely Apple. It would be my first apple mobile device, but aside from the eSIM all seems well.
The P6 is dreaded, and it took them way too long to offer software fixes.
I'm worried about the modem and don't understand why they're not going with Qualcomm.
It doesn't look like we'll be getting much in terms of camera improvement.
The battery will most likely be similar to the P6.
To answer your question plainly, I don't think there is any price point that justifies the risk of another failed device. I plan on waiting for the reviews. If the modem ain't stellar, it will be an automatic no from me because of my remote usage. If the modem works as well as the competition, then I'll have a hard time choosing.
Not interested at this time, but will be watching hand's on reports and reviews....
After hearing that it still has A55 cores, it's a no for me. I have not decided if I'm sticking with my OnePlus 9 or switching back to iPhone (I was on the 12 Pro Max for the last two weeks but the OOS13 beta dropped on the OnePlus 9 today and I kind of like it so I'm back on the OnePlus for now) but most relevant to this thread, I'm *not* going back to Pixel.
I'm writing this from a pixel 2 XL. Was previously using a One Plus 9 Pro. Had to switch back after the hyped up Hasselblad camera stopped focusing. In hindsight, it was a mistake to go with the one plus brand. My old pixel 2 it's working much better, and I will certainly be getting the 7 Pro
Will depend on modem. The modem on Pixel 6 Pro is absolute dog**** worst I have used.
But I will be getting rid of the Pixel 6 Pro, this is by far the worst phone I have ever used.
I am very happy with the 6 pro, but I like the look of the new minimal curve on the 7 pro. if there is also a higher peak brightness i'll be tempted, depending on trade in deals.
I did not plan on buying the P7 Pro, but since it does bring in a couple serious improvements, I made my pre-order today
- finally we get decent 10 bit HDR recording
- Faceunlock (as far as the presentation went, it's only for unlocking the phone and will not work as a biometric in-app or to make a payment)
- finally a decent peak brightness to work in the sun (1500 nits)
- 20 vs 30 res zoom with new nifty features
- macro mode (missed that since my ancient Samsung Galaxy alpha days), guided frame also looks promising for making videos
- better modem (this one needs reviews of course to validate any improvements; the P6 Pro modem is terrible)
- Tensor 2 should bring, if we look at the node and Googles claims, a 20% improvement in efficiency = better battery life
- and last but not least, the deciding factor that made me get the P7 Pro... European Google store offer the Pixel Watch LTE, valued at 429 €, for free when pre-ordering the 899 € P7 Pro. If I couple that with Rakuten and a Google Store cashback of 10% (Google One, 2 TB), sell the watch and my old phone, I get a new shiny phone and will actually have more money than I started out with. That's great of course.
In July, I had planned to buy the Nothing Phone(1) which looked interesting, and which is despite its setbacks the 1st smartphone produced by Nothing. Then, for personal reasons, I didn't buy it, and I turned to the Pixel 7 series that was supposed to arrive.
Very tempted by the 7Pro in 256GB, I hesitated for a long time and changed my mind again.
Looking at the specs, even if Google has improved this 7 series, I'll try to wait for the 8 series, which should arrive with a new processor and finally a non-curved screen and maybe a significantly reduced size for the 8Pro 256GB.
I'm staying with my OP 7T 256GB which I'll soon upgrade to custom rom, as OnePlus is not in a hurry to upgrade it to OOS12.
I wish you good time for the owners Pixel 7 serie
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"and finally a non-curved screen"
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I'm not sure if that hope of yours will result in reality. Google has made it clear that they are all about design and how it looks, and less about function. Just listen to the people presenting Pixel products, look at the Pixel watch (little screen real estate (square smartwatches have great advantage) and continental sized bezels are okay, as long as it looks good): the aesthetic is of greater importance to Google than practicality.
There is simply nothing to indicate that Google would steer away from that path. They consider a curved display to look nice.
Ergo I highly doubt that Google would dramatically change that business strategy for the next iteration of this phone. People like you and me, who would enjoy an even panel more, are simply not in the targeting group of Googles marketing.
The Pixel 7 Pro is almost perfect but the Pixel 6 has the worst connectivity and reception of any phone I've used, even behind the Galaxy devices.
No reviews means it would be just great on paper.
it's time to retire my oneplus 7 pro and get pixel 7 pro
I really wish google would get into the charging game like the oneplus 10 plus... That thing charges from 20% to 80% in 10 minutes