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no roms available?

I was hoping after the bootloader unlock that just happened, I'd be able to find some roms available, but there doesn't seem to be. Is anyone aware of any?

Krunk_Kracker said:
I was hoping after the bootloader unlock that just happened, I'd be able to find some roms available, but there doesn't seem to be. Is anyone aware of any?
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I was wondering the same thing. I just bought my phone and was hoping to flash some roms.
I hope it gets better, otherwise I don't plan on locking the bootloader or rooting.

It's a pretty new phone, so give it some time. With the current ability to unlock a Verizon phone and being able to get a Verizon phone for pretty much half price, I'm sure there will be plenty more developers grabbing one. Plus, being about as stock Android as possible, most people have what they want. Rooting even without a plethora of custom ROMs still gives you the ability to theme with substratum.

doublej713 said:
It's a pretty new phone, so give it some time. With the current ability to unlock a Verizon phone and being able to get a Verizon phone for pretty much half price, I'm sure there will be plenty more developers grabbing one. Plus, being about as stock Android as possible, most people have what they want. Rooting even without a plethora of custom ROMs still gives you the ability to theme with substratum.
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I'm already running Substratum, I was running it rootless before we lucked out on the bootloader.
I honestly want a modified stock rom with simple things, like center clock, battery presentable and advanced reboot, that kind of stuff. Nothing crazy

Krunk_Kracker said:
I'm already running Substratum, I was running it rootless before we lucked out on the bootloader.
I honestly want a modified stock rom with simple things, like center clock, battery presentable and advanced reboot, that kind of stuff. Nothing crazy
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Haven't tried any yet, but there is a thread in the mod section that contains small things like center clock. Don't remember the other things, but that one stuck out to me.

Yeah it's weird, the OP5T, which is a newer phone relative to the P2, already has four more custom ROMs than the P2, two of which are 8.0 or greater. Plus they already have fully functional TWRP recoveries whereas our device is still stuck in beta.
Did Google do a really good job at locking down and encrypting the device, even with the bootloader unlockable, that devs are being driven away to other devices?

There is next to no development for this phone. I don't imagine that it will have the same development push as the OnePlus.

jello24 said:
Yeah it's weird, the OP5T, which is a newer phone relative to the P2, already has four more custom ROMs than the P2, two of which are 8.0 or greater. Plus they already have fully functional TWRP recoveries whereas our device is still stuck in beta.
Did Google do a really good job at locking down and encrypting the device, even with the bootloader unlockable, that devs are being driven away to other devices?
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I bought this over the OnePlus 5T because of the 2-year warranty and guaranteed updates for 3 years. With the 5T I was worried that they might only go one more update after Oreo. I love this little phone the camera is phenomenal and for the extra hundred dollars I paid over what I would have paid for the 5T I feel it is still worth it. I really do hope we get some custom roms, but in the end I can live with it.

jello24 said:
Yeah it's weird, the OP5T, which is a newer phone relative to the P2, already has four more custom ROMs than the P2, two of which are 8.0 or greater. Plus they already have fully functional TWRP recoveries whereas our device is still stuck in beta.
Did Google do a really good job at locking down and encrypting the device, even with the bootloader unlockable, that devs are being driven away to other devices?
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Does the 5T have the a/b partition scheme that the Pixel phones have? If not, that would explain why it was much simpler to get TWRP working with it. That would also explain why there are more ROMs, I think. The a/b partition scheme and other security features on Pixel do seem to make it much less desirable for developing custom ROMs.
Personally, I think having two separate partitions with two entirely separate installations of the OS, just so that people don't have to reboot their phones when they update, is one of the most needless complications and waste of storage space I can imagine. Was the update process really bothering people that much?
It is weird to think that this is what Google has come to. Not like the old Nexus days. I've read that eventually all Android phones will probably have the features that Pixel phones have which make it more difficult to develop for them. Hopefully that will mean that the developers will figure out how to make it work and things will get better for phones like the Pixel. But who knows.

Ever since Google came out with the Pixel phones, development has pretty much died because it is extremely hard to get around the A/B partitioning that comes with these phones. Many of the big player developers have stated not to expect custom roms for this device.
OnePlus phones don't have this partitioning issues, not even with the Oreo update since they still base many things based on Nougat.
It took a long time for the original Pixel to get traction with custom rom development.

Eh, I have unlocked version of P2. The BL is still locked but oem unlock is ticked on dev settings. Google updates this phone monthly and guaranteed support for 3 years. On top of all that it's a great phone as is. I am not losing sleep over lack of development. Google has been pushing for more commercial appeal and the seamless and fast updates are their strategy. I personally love how fast it takes to install an update every time I update my windows 10 lap top I appreciate Google's strategy that much more

I agree the phone is great and I'm not complaining about the stock experience. I was just hoping for a custom rom based on stock with small customizations. Maybe XPosed will come out soon ish and I can just use Gravity Box. Stock 8.1 with Gravity Box would be great.
Either way I'm totally stoked about bootloader unlock and root on the Verizon P2. I got it through work for $200 out the door, so I didn't go with the Google play version, which was a tough decision for me. Glad I did it now.

Krunk_Kracker said:
I'm already running Substratum, I was running it rootless before we lucked out on the bootloader.
I honestly want a modified stock rom with simple things, like center clock, battery presentable and advanced reboot, that kind of stuff. Nothing crazy
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Yeah, Substratum runs just fine without root. You might want to check out some themes for your center clock and advanced reboot options. I'm running center clock now with a locked bootloader. I really wonder about roms coming out for the device because Verizon can be unlocked. There has always been a Google version and even on the Pixel, which is well over a year old, I think there only might be a single rom or two. I'm not entirely sure why either. Look at the Nexus and the 5X and there were a ton of roms and kernels and options. I'd love to know what happened to development on the Pixels. Needless to say I wouldn't hold out much hope at this point.

bobby janow said:
Yeah, Substratum runs just fine without root. You might want to check out some themes for your center clock and advanced reboot options. I'm running center clock now with a locked bootloader. I really wonder about roms coming out for the device because Verizon can be unlocked. There has always been a Google version and even on the Pixel, which is well over a year old, I think there only might be a single rom or two. I'm not entirely sure why either. Look at the Nexus and the 5X and there were a ton of roms and kernels and options. I'd love to know what happened to development on the Pixels. Needless to say I wouldn't hold out much hope at this point.
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Rootless Substratum was great, I was stoked to have the option. I had to teach myself not to update apps while I was away from a computer and able to laugh Andromeda though.
I had the 6P and development on that is amazing. That goddammned early shutdown bug forced me to get rid of it, else I'd still be on that. Just a hair over a year old and it was useless, my ass is still chapped about that.
Anyways, I just left the xposed forums and rovo himself states that XPosed for Oreo is 95% complete, so I'm going to wait on that. Stock rom with Gravity Box will be exactly what I want.

Krunk_Kracker said:
Rootless Substratum was great, I was stoked to have the option. I had to teach myself not to update apps while I was away from a computer and able to laugh Andromeda though.
I had the 6P and development on that is amazing. That goddammned early shutdown bug forced me to get rid of it, else I'd still be on that. Just a hair over a year old and it was useless, my ass is still chapped about that.
Anyways, I just left the xposed forums and rovo himself states that XPosed for Oreo is 95% complete, so I'm going to wait on that. Stock rom with Gravity Box will be exactly what I want.
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You do know you don't need to be at a computer to launch Andromeda, right? Once it's connected it will stay that way until you either reboot or put the device into file transfer mode. Moot now since you're rooted.
Yeah, my 5x battery was just awful. I think if I could have replaced it or gotten a larger battery I would have stuck with that too for another year and skipped the Pixel and gone directly to the Pixel 2. But now the Mrs. has the Pixel after getting rid of her awful S5. So all is good now. Well that is after I had to replace the Pixel due to GPS failure. Just couldn't lock on all of a sudden. The replacement was able to be unlocked but I'll not do that to her. She doesn't even like the word "root". She scowls at me if I even mention bootloader. lol

bobby janow said:
You do know you don't need to be at a computer to launch Andromeda, right? Once it's connected it will stay that way until you either reboot or put the device into file transfer mode. Moot now since you're rooted.
Yeah, my 5x battery was just awful. I think if I could have replaced it or gotten a larger battery I would have stuck with that too for another year and skipped the Pixel and gone directly to the Pixel 2. But now the Mrs. has the Pixel after getting rid of her awful S5. So all is good now. Well that is after I had to replace the Pixel due to GPS failure. Just couldn't lock on all of a sudden. The replacement was able to be unlocked but I'll not do that to her. She doesn't even like the word "root". She scowls at me if I even mention bootloader. lol
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Oh yeah, but I found that some themes would not apply correctly without a reboot. Swift Black for instance, would sometimes theme the notifications bright white, until rebooted which it is then correct.

Krunk_Kracker said:
Oh yeah, but I found that some themes would not apply correctly without a reboot. Swift Black for instance, would sometimes theme the notifications bright white, until rebooted which it is then correct.
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Yes, same here. But once it's applied you only need to reconnect if you want to change it. But it is nice to have it working.
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It has to do with how difficult it is to manage the A/B and encryption. After the nexus and removal of the dedicated recovery sector its harder overall to customize the phone. I believe one plus has the same set up at the old nexus.
Myself as well I'll just leave it stock unless there is a custom rom but the stock kernel is fine and won't wipe the entire phone and reset everything just for a custom kernel.
It really is unfortunate that is so hard now to modify the phone but Google is making that process more difficult I personally was interested in the OnePlus but it doesn't work for my carriers of CDMA. So Google's phone is the only other option I'd consider

All hope abandon ye who enter here

I thought that this post was best placed on the Lenovo forum but apaarently not, as it mysteriously dissappeared straight after I posted it. Perhaps those ownsers will find this one -
"Why Lenovo P2 is not getting Nougat update in UK?" – 25 pages and counting…
"Update to Android O" – 31 pages and counting…
"Unable to sync gmail contacts properly" – 18 pages and counting…
"Re: P2 - Notification Problem!" – 4 pages and counting…
And that doesn’t include all the other threads relating to these subject, there and on other sites.
Lenovo, or more specifically, the people at Lenovo should be ashamed. Not because they have created something with defects, no-one/nothing is perfect, but because they aren’t willing (or able) to come out and admit it. It would save a great deal of time, effort and possibly money, if someone in a position we could trust would just state, in writing, that –
There won’t be any security or operating software updates for the P2.
There will be/is no software/settings fix for the lack of notification and/or contacts sync.
Software changes are fairly cheap and simple (if anything relating to modern tech could be described as such) whereas hardware is not.
Just admit that, embarrassing as it may be, the P2 is flawed.
Promise your P2 customers that you’ve made changes to the way you do things and that (hopefully) it won’t happen again.
Thank those same customers for buying the P2 in the first place and apologize that you’ve let them down. Maybe then, some of those customers (and new ones) might buy Lenovo products.
Or is it too much to acknowledge that Motorola could do it but they couldn’t?
Or are they too worried that Google, not wanting to be linked with the bugs, will end their agreement to allow them to use Android?
On paper, the P2 is a great piece of kit, that’s why I bought one. However, if all I wanted was something to make and receive calls and to send and receive texts (plus a few extras), I’d still be using my 5310 with its replaceable battery. If I could afford to, I’d buy something else now but, safe to say, when I can, it won’t be a Lenovo, or a Motorola, just in case they get infected by association. Maybe a Google phone, you’d think that they would know how the software and hardware will work together, and I’ll get updates.

I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.

Wile_E_Coyote said:
I thought that this post was best placed on the Lenovo forum but apaarently not, as it mysteriously dissappeared straight after I posted it. Perhaps those ownsers will find this one -
"Why Lenovo P2 is not getting Nougat update in UK?" – 25 pages and counting…
"Update to Android O" – 31 pages and counting…
"Unable to sync gmail contacts properly" – 18 pages and counting…
"Re: P2 - Notification Problem!" – 4 pages and counting…
And that doesn’t include all the other threads relating to these subject, there and on other sites.
Lenovo, or more specifically, the people at Lenovo should be ashamed. Not because they have created something with defects, no-one/nothing is perfect, but because they aren’t willing (or able) to come out and admit it. It would save a great deal of time, effort and possibly money, if someone in a position we could trust would just state, in writing, that –
There won’t be any security or operating software updates for the P2.
There will be/is no software/settings fix for the lack of notification and/or contacts sync.
Software changes are fairly cheap and simple (if anything relating to modern tech could be described as such) whereas hardware is not.
Just admit that, embarrassing as it may be, the P2 is flawed.
Promise your P2 customers that you’ve made changes to the way you do things and that (hopefully) it won’t happen again.
Thank those same customers for buying the P2 in the first place and apologize that you’ve let them down. Maybe then, some of those customers (and new ones) might buy Lenovo products.
Or is it too much to acknowledge that Motorola could do it but they couldn’t?
Or are they too worried that Google, not wanting to be linked with the bugs, will end their agreement to allow them to use Android?
On paper, the P2 is a great piece of kit, that’s why I bought one. However, if all I wanted was something to make and receive calls and to send and receive texts (plus a few extras), I’d still be using my 5310 with its replaceable battery. If I could afford to, I’d buy something else now but, safe to say, when I can, it won’t be a Lenovo, or a Motorola, just in case they get infected by association. Maybe a Google phone, you’d think that they would know how the software and hardware will work together, and I’ll get updates.
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sm00th4f3 said:
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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Another option to add to the list and something (as a newcomer to Android and mobile phone modding) I'm having to learn and it's a pretty steep learning curve.
After going round in ever decreasing circles until I very nearly disappeared up my own orifice over the last few months, I decided to do nothing and to just put up with things as they are. For every post that says what they did helped, there is another saying it didn’t work for them and for every updated OS there is one asking how to get back to Stock MM.
Stock ROMs, Rooting, 7, 7.1.2, 8, 8.1…the options seem endless and scary! If someone else bricks you phone, at least you can blame them but if you bring the misery on yourself…
You say you used a stock AOSP, If you don't mind, could you say which one and how you did it (with any snags you came across). You also note that there are still some bugs. What are they? If I can live with them instead of the ones I’ve got, I certainly consider doing it.

For first time you can't go wrong with the official LineageOS. Just go to their website and check the wiki, it has a comprehensive guide for flashing from the beginning and it will be fine if you follow it.

XDAquareis said:
For first time you can't go wrong with the official LineageOS. Just go to their website and check the wiki, it has a comprehensive guide for flashing from the beginning and it will be fine if you follow it.
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Apologies for being so hesitant but having never done it before, it's a big, scary step (where have I heard that before...oh, yes...). You used the word "official", there are lots of LineageOS for the Lenovo P2 but no mention of "official", is one of the nightly builds okay to use?

Wile_E_Coyote said:
Apologies for being so hesitant but having never done it before, it's a big, scary step (where have I heard that before...oh, yes...). You used the word "official", there are lots of LineageOS for the Lenovo P2 but no mention of "official", is one of the nightly builds okay to use?
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Yes, but I wouldn't recommend los 14.1
Use a Oreo rom by subham or firelord.

sm00th4f3 said:
I clearly understand why you're fed up with it. Lenovo does really nearly to nothing to support the P2.
In my case, I knew from the get to that I would reflash my phone with a custom rom since stock never came close to them. In any case.
I have used stock AOSP on this phone as well, bugless, fast and stable.
Custom rom can have bugs as well but they are fixable or at least not noticeable. Not all of them though.
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b50corei5 said:
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend los 14.1
Use a Oreo rom by subham or firelord.
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Many thanks for your time and advice.
[ROM][8.1.x][kuntao][OFFICIAL] Cardinal-AOSP - It's all a bit scary but I'm going for it! :fingers-crossed:

Wile_E_Coyote said:
Many thanks for your time and advice.
[ROM][8.1.x][kuntao][OFFICIAL] Cardinal-AOSP - It's all a bit scary but I'm going for it! :fingers-crossed:
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Good luck ?
Remember to do a backup before you start

P20 PRO (CLT-L04): New method for unlock bootloader [Oct 2018] (Mexico&Canada)

Hello everyone!
I have good news for you. After Huawei decided to stop providing the bootloader code, now we have another method to get it.
Unfortunately, it is a method that need to pay.
To the date I'm making this post, the cost is $30€.
Let me be clear:
I do not have a relationship with this people/team/person. I just want to share this method and prove that it works on the Mexican/Canadian model.
A good news, is that they accept PayPal.
If you want to try it, you have to do the following steps:
1.- Go to https://ministryofsolutions.com/huawei-bootloader-unlock-service-all-new-models-new-firmwares.
2. -Click: "Click here to order with PayPal".
3.- Now in your phone, go to the "phone" app and dial *#06#, you will see your IMEI and Serial Number.
3.5.- I suggest to copy those codes, and email you so you won´t have typing errors.
4.- Insert your IMEI and Serial Number into the webpage of ministry of solutions.
5. Make the payment with your paypal account.
6. After 24-48 hours, you will get the bootloader code in the email you used for paypal.
7. Be happy and unlock you bootloader.
I can ensure the web is working correctly. I unlocked mine a few moments ago, now I will rebrand
Thanks.

The guy can only sell 10 code per day, I need to wait tomorrow to order again..

maxfunky said:
The guy can only sell 10 code per day, I need to wait tomorrow to order again..
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I suspect this means that his solution is not exploit based, but revolves around either working for Huawei, or knowing someone who does and getting the codes via them.
Doesn't bode well.

Whoever they are , fair play to them. There's obviously a market for them and they deserve the money.

That said , president of HUAWEI probably want more money so he closed their page and assigned Mutahhar
So bootloader unlocked , what will you guys do now with it ?
Will you install LOS or ?

mrcaligula said:
So bootloader unlocked , what will you guys do now with it ?
Will you install LOS or ?
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I will give a chance to Huawei and Android Pie version they will make.
But I like LineageOS so much that I will install it in the future. I unlocked my bootloader (and have this fuc…. message each time I reboot the device) only to be able to install custom roms when I will like to do so.

Saison2018 said:
I will give a chance to Huawei and Android Pie version they will make.
But I like LineageOS so much that I will install it in the future. I unlocked my bootloader (and have this fuc…. message each time I reboot the device) only to be able to install custom roms when I will like to do so.
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I have run official LOS on at least a half dozen different phones and I have never run a single build that didn't have bugs. Ever. I don't understand all the love for an OS that receives reports of new bugs from users after every single update.

jhs39 said:
I have run official LOS on at least a half dozen different phones and I have never run a single build that didn't have bugs. Ever. I don't understand all the love for an OS that receives reports of new bugs from users after every single update.
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I fully understand your point and I am sure you have your reasons.
But for my point of view, this is exactly how a community should work. People making development could not do everything good every time.
Even big corporation do mistake. For example, my wife had trouble with her iPhone 7 and 12.0 (unable to connect to 5Ghz Wifi). After 12.0.1 it is correct.
On my devices, only some applications were not working correctly. I was able to use my devices on a daily basis, without restriction (personal mail, corporate mail with Outlook, Maps/Waze, listening to music, some games,...). And for my personal experience, updates went smooth, only some (less than 2 per year) went wrong. But I could always flash back and wait for the correction to be applied by people in charge.
The only drawback for me was the battery, it was difficult to length 1 day.
But again, I fully understand and you have the right to not choose LineageOS and use something else.

Saison2018 said:
I fully understand your point and I am sure you have your reasons.
But for my point of view, this is exactly how a community should work. People making development could not do everything good every time.
Even big corporation do mistake. For example, my wife had trouble with her iPhone 7 and 12.0 (unable to connect to 5Ghz Wifi). After 12.0.1 it is correct.
On my devices, only some applications were not working correctly. I was able to use my devices on a daily basis, without restriction (personal mail, corporate mail with Outlook, Maps/Waze, listening to music, some games,...). And for my personal experience, updates went smooth, only some (less than 2 per year) went wrong. But I could always flash back and wait for the correction to be applied by people in charge.
The only drawback for me was the battery, it was difficult to length 1 day.
But again, I fully understand and you have the right to not choose LineageOS and use something else.
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I guess it has to do with how long I have been using custom ROMs. When I started using them years ago devs only worked on ROMs for devices they used themselves every day and the ROMs were not only stable enough to use as a daily driver but offered better performance and features than the stock ROM which is why people used them. Since the devs created ROMs for their own phones they were aware of bugs before posting builds. They didn't rely on users telling them what was wrong with every build after it was uploaded. When a custom ROM was labeled as stable it very rarely had any bugs.
Devs now routinely build or maintain ROMs for phones they don't use (or rarely use) so the ROMs always have bugs. I don't think custom ROMs are stable enough to use as daily drivers anymore but a lot of people seem to be fine with using custom ROMs that are slower and way more buggy than the stock ROM that comes on their phone. To each his own.

Why repost something a day later? https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/bootloader-unlock-service-t3852447

Because I can.

try this... good service and low price, tested on mine p20 pro from mexico..... https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below

is this the same as unlocking your sim? im on telcell and i got zero updates, so im guessing i need to unlock it from telcel? or can i just unlock the bootloader with the code? and also, what do you do with the code once you have it?

estanenmi said:
try this... good service and low price, tested on mine p20 pro from mexico..... https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below
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did you do this to get it off telcel?

DomAlberts said:
did you do this to get it off telcel?
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yes for telcel

hey guys, i used funky Hauwei for rebranding from L04 to L29 international. and is working fine. im on l29(c636) but im working on erecovery now, im trying to get it to CLT-L29 9.0.0.108 but we will see. and i will let you know.
but the rebranding is a little tricky but works.

Okay update. Had to go back to L04 because when I went from 8 to pie while branded as L29. It wouldn't install due to compatibility issues. So had to rebrand back to L04. Recovery through funky Huawei. First 8 then 9 and worked perfectly. Only issues I have are with the telcel branding on start up. But all the bloatware I removed or disabled in CCleaner. So I don't have to look at the icons all the time. I'm currently running pie and it's awesome. Lots of cool new tweaks
Sent from my CLT-L04 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

When will Google start posting the factory images?

Does anyone know when Google will start to actually post the images? This is the first phone I can remember having in my hand without any factory images posted.

I was wondering the same thing. Since no factory images are up, I tried the Android Flash Tool, which correctly identified the phone as a 4a, but said it was "unsupported". I've never tried the Flash Tool before, fairly easy to use, but I do wonder how fast the downloads will be. But, yeah, factory images should be up. I never completely trust a phone out of the box, prefer to do a wipe and flash before setup and use. I mean, it was probably built in China, right? I don't need any Chinese spies looking at my porn.

Well, today (Aug 20) was supposed to be the official debut, even though many of us have had these phones at least a couple of days now. If they dont have the images posted by tomorrow, then someone at Google is asleep at the wheel!

Maybe Android 11 is coming so soon they'll wait to post that?

Pig Vomit said:
I mean, it was probably built in China, right? I don't need any Chinese spies looking at my porn.
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I think I read somewhere that, as Google is moving away from China, they've been producing more in Viet Nam. The Pixel 4a is supposed to be the first phone to be fully produced outside of China. That's cool, right?

i started tweeting at @madebygoogle & @googledevs asking them to upload factory images & kernel source lol maybe itll get someones attention but not counting on it

I emailed google support to ask if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the pixel 4a with magisk would void the warranty. The response was that it would not void the warranty. That convinced me to buy a second Pixel 4A to replace my other moto x4 as well.
I need to root only becaasue I need telephone call recording with bluetooth. I have paid versions of both Call Recorder (skvalex) and BoldBeast, but neither work with bluetooth if the phone is not rooted, so it is good to know I can root as soon as an image is available. Here is the response I got:
" I understand you'd like to know if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the device would void the warranty. Let me help you with the details. Warranty of your device is still covered regardless of whether a device was rooted or unlocked. However, if you are experiencing any issue after rooting the device, we might suggest you to unroot the same in order to get the issue resolved. Android is not against rooting, but we can't guarantee functionality if the source code for the Android OS has been modified hence we might ask you to unroot the device before helping you with the warranty options."

Reacon said:
I think I read somewhere that, as Google is moving away from China, they've been producing more in Viet Nam. The Pixel 4a is supposed to be the first phone to be fully produced outside of China. That's cool, right?
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Box says phone made in Vietnam, accessories made in China. My problem with China is with human rights more than a concern about spying. My original post was meant to be funny. That having been said, Vietnam's human rights record isn't so great, either.
xenokc said:
Maybe Android 11 is coming so soon they'll wait to post that?
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I'm kinda thinking this as well. I've got the final/release candidate Android 11 beta on my Pixel 2XL right now. It's pretty good, but there are a few problems I've noticed that should be cleaned up before it goes final. It wouldn't surprise me if they release another beta/Release Candidate #2. Google probably was shooting for a simultaneous launch, but couldn't get 11 finalized in time. I also assume there's a beta version of 11 for the 4a, because there has to be if it's about to be upgraded to 11, right? At least post those images up.

Pig Vomit said:
Box says phone made in Vietnam, accessories made in China. My problem with China is with human rights more than a concern about spying. My original post was meant to be funny. That having been said, Vietnam's human rights record isn't so great, either.
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China has been throwing its economic weight around to effectively undercut any and all competition. It's just a reality if you want to have a manufacturing-based economy in 2020 that you'll have to make an incentive to drive business your direction. Unfortunately, many companies were in a catch-22 where if they report the rampant IP-theft in connection with the CCP they would either lose their competitive margin or potentially lose the ability to manufacture their product at all, because China also has hoarded the best tooling tech.
If there's one thing that the US' current administration has done correctly, it's to bare China's fangs. Hopefully, with commerce forcefully directed elsewhere, the dire need for profit margin will ease a bit in the poorer countries of the region, giving way for better human rights adherence. At least, that's my wishful thinking.

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I emailed google support to ask if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the pixel 4a with magisk would void the warranty. The response was that it would not void the warranty. That convinced me to buy a second Pixel 4A to replace my other moto x4 as well.
" I understand you'd like to know if unlocking the bootloader and rooting the device would void the warranty. Let me help you with the details. Warranty of your device is still covered regardless of whether a device was rooted or unlocked. However, if you are experiencing any issue after rooting the device, we might suggest you to unroot the same in order to get the issue resolved. Android is not against rooting, but we can't guarantee functionality if the source code for the Android OS has been modified hence we might ask you to unroot the device before helping you with the warranty options."
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Save that e-mail! While that rep said it won't, that doesn't mean it is true as a company policy. But the fact that you have it in writing from a Google rep gives you some ammunition in case they do try and say your warranty is void.

Yeah, I fired off a few tweets to @google asking them about the factory images. I think the more people who ask, more of a problem it will be for them,,,maybe.
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i started tweeting at @madebygoogle & [URL="https://twitter.com/googledevs" @googledevs[/URL] asking them to upload factory images & kernel source lol maybe itll get someones attention but not counting on it
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Does make for a September update a big question. Could G just start it on 11? Device rollout was delayed. Maybe a thought. I am hoping for a 10 release of at least our current as released build QD4A.200805.003. Especially if 11 bootloader has issues with . . . .
A nice comparison to my 3a, 3 is side by side the case of a 3 in size and a display more than 3a. Surprised hole punch (which would not think) goes away in most use...

reached out to google support team after making a fuss & finally got a pretty good answer...
In regards to Factory image availability on our developer page, the image would be updated post security patch of Sept. As it's a new device we are shipping the devices with August update, once the device specific builds are released it will reflect on Developer images.
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I am hoping for a 10 release of at least our current as released build QD4A.200805.003.
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This is the build that it was released with. I was surprised, because I had read so many articles saying the phones had been assembled months ago and were in a warehouse waiting for release. I doubt they re-flashed all the phones, so I suspect they were manufactured more recently. I had expected a very old security release to be on them, but it's the August release.

Build # convention for .003 was carrier specific builds on rest of Pixel line...is a wonder.
Since I have a audience I get no Sprint dial code switching on Google Fi Network.
So TMobile here now...no chat messenger!
US Cellular is my other provider same thing. Call screen is working.
Radio sensitivity is better than 3a nice to have in the boonies here.

Yeah I kinda figured they would wait til the Sept patch is out to provide the factory images. Sucks a little that is over two weeks from now.
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reached out to google support team after making a fuss & finally got a pretty good answer...
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I'm usually a happy silent observer because the factory images are usually out when the phone comes out, but I am a little annoyed because I have my new phone and I don't want to set it up again in two weeks.
Is there any reliable way to dump the ROM and get the boot image without root?

SexySOnic23 said:
I'm usually a happy silent observer because the factory images are usually out when the phone comes out, but I am a little annoyed because I have my new phone and I don't want to set it up again in two weeks.
Is there any reliable way to dump the ROM and get the boot image without root?
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Why would you have to set it up again? You can unlock the bootloader now.

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Why would you have to set it up again? You can unlock the bootloader now.
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Just because I want to flash Magisk, I can't do that without the boot image. Once I went TitaniumBackup, I never went back. But ya know, I need root for that

SexySOnic23 said:
Just because I want to flash Magisk, I can't do that without the boot image. Once I went TitaniumBackup, I never went back. But ya know, I need root for that
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Yes, I do, too. But I roughed it out setting up the phone without it. Most of my apps had data in the cloud or their own backup file. I transferred other files manually. I'll root, but I don't need to setup my phone twice because I unlocked the bootloader first.

Question Custom ROM warranty.

I have 15 days with the device really is perfect, but my only complaint is MIUI, it has a lot of bugs and I really found it quite ugly, not being able to set wallpapers or ringtones well without going through the "Themes" app is horrendous. My last 3 phones have been Motorola Moto Gs, so I've been using "Stock Android" for quite some time and I miss it.
Do you guys think it's worth installing a custom rom with such a "new" phone, talking about warranty and stuff. This is my first time buying a phone outside of a "Mobile Network Operator", so I have no idea what the warranty is like in these cases.

unlocking the bootloader does not void the device warranty.
The use of unofficial software may be the reason for the denial of warranty service.
It would be wise to return the stock software to your phone before claiming a warranty.
In theory, using unofficial firmware could harm the hardware of the device, but in practice I have never seen this.
Unlocking the bootloader and installing an AOSP based system is the first thing I usually do after buying Chinese phones.
MIUI works badly (especially outside of China, Google services are alien to this system), besides, it collects too much information about the user.

Depends on where and how the warranty is worded, if you're in some tech deprived country or a good country that has a lot of greedy companies like the ones in the middle east - then good luck. There are a lot of dumb "Tech representatives" nowadays, if you find your phone bricked and it doesn't turn on - then it's pretty much hw failure and no one can raise it from being dead. You can just lie outright to them that it was on stock state and claim warranty. No one from their side would be too stupid enough to waste their time to pinpoint why and where the hw has failed and troubleshoot what's wrong with it, it's easier for them to just move along with their lives and grant the claim(This is me presuming you're not in middle east). Otherwise, if you're in the middle east - then they will just plainly say no and rub you with so much bull**** to embellish their denial of claim for warranty, been there so many times that I just choose to buy everything online in regards with electronics.

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Depends on where and how the warranty is worded, if you're in some tech deprived country or a good country that has a lot of greedy companies like the ones in the middle east - then good luck. There are a lot of dumb "Tech representatives" nowadays, if you find your phone bricked and it doesn't turn on - then it's pretty much hw failure and no one can raise it from being dead. You can just lie outright to them that it was on stock state and claim warranty. No one from their side would be too stupid enough to waste their time to pinpoint why and where the hw has failed and troubleshoot what's wrong with it, it's easier for them to just move along with their lives and grant the claim(This is me presuming you're not in middle east). Otherwise, if you're in the middle east - then they will just plainly say no and rub you with so much bull**** to embellish their denial of claim for warranty, been there so many times that I just choose to buy everything online in regards with electr
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well i´m from Mexico, there no tech companies here but im close to USA

I used it with miui for 4 months. Only reason why didnt want to unlock bt was google pay. But with pixel experince gpay works without any tweaks. After two weeks of use i can tell you that would never go back to miui. Remeber miui on ics was working like a charm, it was something different special. Now is only slowing down the phone and amount of bugs is tremendous

chavaa said:
I have 15 days with the device really is perfect, but my only complaint is MIUI, it has a lot of bugs and I really found it quite ugly, not being able to set wallpapers or ringtones well without going through the "Themes" app is horrendous. My last 3 phones have been Motorola Moto Gs, so I've been using "Stock Android" for quite some time and I miss it.
Do you guys think it's worth installing a custom rom with such a "new" phone, talking about warranty and stuff. This is my first time buying a phone outside of a "Mobile Network Operator", so I have no idea what the warranty is like in these cases.
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I've got a Poco X3 Pro buddy.... First thing I did was unlock the bootloader which I had to wait a week for. I'd never used MIUI before but had to until I could unlock the device and to tell the truth I wasn't very impressed. I installed ArrowOS which has been awesome. Very stable and probably the best custom ROM I've ever used. Highly recommend.

chavaa said:
I have 15 days with the device really is perfect, but my only complaint is MIUI, it has a lot of bugs and I really found it quite ugly, not being able to set wallpapers or ringtones well without going through the "Themes" app is horrendous. My last 3 phones have been Motorola Moto Gs, so I've been using "Stock Android" for quite some time and I miss it.
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I've got a Poco X3 Pro buddy.... First thing I did was unlock the bootloader which I had to wait a week for. I'd never used MIUI before but had to until I could unlock the device and to tell the truth I wasn't very impressed. I installed ArrowOS which has been awesome. Very stable and probably the best custom ROM I've ever used. Highly recommend...
BTW.... Got Magisk installed, safety net passes and can use my banking apps including Google pay....