Question about storage maximums - Android General

Hi! I have a T95Z Plus set-top box running Android 6.0. In addition to using it with my TV, I've plugged an external 1TB hard drive into it and I am using it a network storage device thanks to the SambaDroid app. This has worked so well that I've been considering upgrading to a larger drive.
But are there limits to the maximum addressable size of a storage device built into Android? I had an older device that could not access a 32GB memory stick, but later versions of the OS would.
Would it be possible to mount a 4GB drive? An 8GB drive?
Is there a theoretical maximum built into the OS?
Does Android 6 support GPT or just MBR?
Thanks for any light you can shine on this!

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File size limit?

Does android use a FAT32 file system? I was trying to transfer a 6 gb hd movie onto my phone . Apparently it's too big. Is there any way to change the file system?
Yup, fat has a limit of I believe 4gb, this is why most torrents are split into multiple archive files.
For windows machines the only way I know around this is NTFS, but the phone won't read an SD card formatted in that way.
I'm going to be honest. Why were u transfering a 6 gig movie to ur phone. At these resolutions, even 720p h264 is a stretch, but I digress. Above poster is correct, inherent 4gb file limit of fat32 is present
i would like to know if it is possible to load and play a larger then 4gb file on my sd card on my galaxy s2. (like a bluray movie)
why would i like this? because i have bought a micro usb to hdmi converter and would love to use my phone to drive my projector.
please is there anyway?
spinny40 said:
i would like to know if it is possible to load and play a larger then 4gb file on my sd card on my galaxy s2. (like a bluray movie)
why would i like this? because i have bought a micro usb to hdmi converter and would love to use my phone to drive my projector.
please is there anyway?
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No, there is no way to place a file larger than 4 GB on a FAT32 file system. You could split file into 4 GB pieces but I am not sure how practical would this be.
Seems crazy that they would limit the functionality of the phone like that since it will do 1080p.
Is there any special rom that would allow the sd card to be formatted to a useful file system!?
I can not believe that no one has done this yet!
Thanks for the responses as i am new to this.
spinny40 said:
Seems crazy that they would limit the functionality of the phone like that since it will do 1080p.
Is there any special rom that would allow the sd card to be formatted to a useful file system!?
I can not believe that no one has done this yet!
Thanks for the responses as i am new to this.
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It's not only the phone... If your pc is using fat32, it's in the same boat.
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The best way to get over 4GB file size limitation?

NTFS-partitioning for the micro SDHC does not work:
1) If i try to copy directly through the tablet to an NTFS-partitioned card, the tablet freezes
2) Dice player won't open a 4GB+ anyways, the message is something like "The file is not supported"
3) Internal storage cannot be partitioned as NTFS
One current solution is splitting MKV files before conversion.
For SRT external subs, either integrate them using MKVmerge, and then split in MKVToolnix, or save as ANSI and split on the fly using splitMKV (included in multiAVCHD).
Is there a more efficient way?
For example, I converted a ~9GB 1080p movie using DVD Catalyst, keeping the full resolution, into an Android recommended video format (Full HD though) + 160 Kbit AAC stereo. It turned out 6GB+ still.
are you trying to put a 4gb file or larger on your microsd, or the tablet itself?
honestly, and i love dvdcatalyst, but for the transformer infinity, i find that its really not needed. I transferred a 9gb mkv blu ray of Hunger Games to my 64gb card (formatted at exfat) and the movie plays superb. Subtitles as well. I am using BS Player to watch my movies. Conversion is really not required for the infinity, when using this app.
exFAT? 10char
Thanks! Didn't think of exFAT, saw it was available when I was formatting the card.
Still doesn't solve the internal memory of the pad problem (won't accept 4GB+ files), but I'll try to re-format the card when I'm home.
The internal memory cant be formatted from your computer because its mounted through MTP instead of USB mass storage. I wasnt aware that the internal storage had a 4gb limit, but if it is indeed fat32 there's nothing that can be done about it (yet, and even then that'll require an unlocked bootloader).
The microSD card is your only option. I second trying exFat.
Caution, not all 64 GB Micro SDXC might work! I have tried two Sandisk 64 GB. Both work formatted as FAT32 in my Galaxy Note, but only one works with ExFAT in the Transformer TF700...
Jotokun said:
The internal memory cant be formatted from your computer because its mounted through MTP instead of USB mass storage. I wasnt aware that the internal storage had a 4gb limit, but if it is indeed fat32 there's nothing that can be done about it (yet, and even then that'll require an unlocked bootloader).
The microSD card is your only option. I second trying exFat.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Internal storage is ext4, which has a filesize limit of 16 TB. I believe it will be enough for all Infinity users The 4GB limit is under FAT16 and FAT32 only, which on your device you won't see anywhere besides the (micro)SD(HC) card!
If someone here really thinks your internal storage could be formatted FAT32, read about file permissions under Linux for the starters
And just to make sure, I've just copied a 5.46 GB file from full-size SDHC card in the dock to my internal storage (/sdcard/) with an average speed of 15 MB/s without experiencing any problems (within the tablet, so if you experience problems with USB transfers, consider it a problem with Windows handling MTP on your device or a similar issue).
This whole thread actually spreads disinformation. Better try to make sure, if you are unsure.
BTW, don't go with NTFS under Android in general and under .26 Infinity firmware in particular, it will give you trouble at some point on any device you connect to it. Just format your external cards to exFAT and don't even try to touch internal...
As to watching big .mkv files, try BSPlayer Free, it has played my 15 GB 1080p mkv files very smoothly. You can see more about apps for the Infinity in my apps (sticky) therad.
Thanks, everyone, exFAT seems to work perfectly fine for the micro SDHC card, I put a 10GB movie on it and it plays fine.
I installed BSPlayer Pro in addition to Dice Player as Dice wouldn't open it.
BSPlayer opens it perfectly, with subs, HW-accelerated and everything.
For the internal storage - great news about ext4, I am testing it again now, there may be a limitation of USB MTP protocol, as I remember it wouldn't copy a file over 4GB via the USB cable?
A 4.6GB file being copied, will post in a sec...
Um I don't know why I am such an idiot, it worked fine.
Thanks a lot again.
d14b0ll0s said:
Internal storage is ext4, which has a filesize limit of 16 TB. I believe it will be enough for all Infinity users The 4GB limit is under FAT16 and FAT32 only, which on your device you won't see anywhere besides the (micro)SD(HC) card!
If someone here really thinks your internal storage could be formatted FAT32, read about file permissions under Linux for the starters
And just to make sure, I've just copied a 5.46 GB file from full-size SDHC card in the dock to my internal storage (/sdcard/) with an average speed of 15 MB/s without experiencing any problems (within the tablet, so if you experience problems with USB transfers, consider it a problem with Windows handling MTP on your device or a similar issue).
This whole thread actually spreads disinformation. Better try to make sure, if you are unsure.
BTW, don't go with NTFS under Android in general and under .26 Infinity firmware in particular, it will give you trouble at some point on any device you connect to it. Just format your external cards to exFAT and don't even try to touch internal...
As to watching big .mkv files, try BSPlayer Free, it has played my 15 GB 1080p mkv files very smoothly. You can see more about apps for the Infinity in my apps (sticky) therad.
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Yep, I was about to say the same thing. Practically, there is no file size limit for Windows where MTP is supported natively by the OS (I suppose it would be similar for Linux as well). However, the 4-GB limit exists for Mac OS (no native support for MTP). There are some workarounds, but you cannot just use USB cable to transfer files larger than 4 GB.
need help
I formatted sandisk class 10 16 gb UHC-1 microsd to exFat(32 kilobytes) and I cant copy large files-it copies like 10% and then then gives me an error "device has stopped responding or been disconnected"-Im trying to copy 8 gb mkv file
Are you on .26 firmware? Read the threads about UHS cards here. The new firmware helped most of the users, before UHS cards were not working properly for the majority of them.
(I believe you mean UHS-1, which stands for Ultra High Speed)
UHS-1
yes Im on the .26 firmware and I have the UHS-1 16 GB-not working with exFat-tablet crashes and reboots-any suggestionsI
did a cold boot-seems to be working-Ill report back
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still wont copy 8 gb mkv file-it copied more this time like 30% and stopped responding
Jotokun said:
The microSD card is your only option. I second trying exFat.
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Any recommendation on Allocation Unit Size for exFAT? My computer defaulted to 32 kilobytes, but that seems kind of small. Card is 32 GB.
Formatted to exFAT
Copied over files
Opened BSPlayer
Watched fate/stay night unlimited blade works in glorious 1080p
Samsung 32gb sdhc on M$ winderps 7 64 bit
My prime supported NTFS, maybe that would help those who got problems with exFAT.
clownberg said:
yes Im on the .26 firmware and I have the UHS-1 16 GB-not working with exFat-tablet crashes and reboots-any suggestionsI
did a cold boot-seems to be working-Ill report back
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still wont copy 8 gb mkv file-it copied more this time like 30% and stopped responding
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Put the card in an adapter and plug into computer and copy directly. This will be Much faster anyway
NTFS support is *really* screwed up on teh infinity... Stick with exFat - it's as good as it gets for now.
Can't even copy a 1gb file with NTFS - causes the tablet to hang! Confirmed by other users also.
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I have a 32gig class 10 card that worked with exfat with the Pime but since I put it in the Infinity it just locks up and reboots when trying to copy any amount of large data. I tried reformatting the card again and no change. I then tried just fat32 and transferring a large photo folder is working now but now I can't put large movies on the card.
djakx1 said:
I have a 32gig class 10 card that worked with exfat but since I put it in the Infinity it just locks up and reboots when trying to copy any amount of large data. I tried reformatting the card again and no change. I then tried just fat32 and transferring a large photo folder is working now but now I can't put large movies on the card.
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so its not just 64gb cards that this happens with. it happens to me with any size file. If i try to transfer something from the device to microsd, the tablet will freeze and reboot. But when it reboots, i'm able to transfer the file. I posted this issue on the facebook site for this device. I hope its taken care of soon. They are probably rectifying a few other issues to include in another update.
i dont want to switch to fat32 because i have my movies (4gbs and up) on it.
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Do you have an adapter for micro sd to normal sd? I used my adapter and plugged it right into my computer. The Micro sd is EXfat and when plugged diretly to my pc with the adapter I can transfer a large size file over 4 GB +. I am transferring a 9 GB file now.
But when my Micro sd is inside my galaxy note II it will not let me plug it to the pc via a usb wire and transfer any files over 4 GB.
Hope this helps

[Q] TV Sticks and large external drives.

I have a couple of TV sticks on the way both RK3188 Quad core
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Its going to replace an old PC I am using as a media centre
I plan to use XBMC and Netflix on these although I am aware there are some issues, I guess they will be ironed out in time.
I got a question about external hard disks.
If I have an external NTFS formatted 3tb hard drive full of movies.
I see that Paragon NTFS is available for android but not android 4.2 currently
I want to just plug the hdd directly into the host port and have XBMC see the stuffs, just like it does on my current PC setup.
Is it possible, Is anyone doing something similar?
I got two external drives connected to my newly purchased Minix Neo X7, a 320GB WD Portable Passport (1st gen) formatted with exFat, and a Cooler Master enclosure with a 400GB WD drive with NTFS, none of them show up in my android, all i get is a Safe to remove notification. Something tells me rooting will grant me extra options with a few apps available.
PlutoDelic said:
I got two external drives connected to my newly purchased Minix Neo X7, a 320GB WD Portable Passport (1st gen) formatted with exFat, and a Cooler Master enclosure with a 400GB WD drive with NTFS, none of them show up in my android, all i get is a Safe to remove notification. Something tells me rooting will grant me extra options with a few apps available.
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From the research I have done you certainly need root to use a NTFS 'reader' and maybe a specific kernel (see http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-hfs-android/index.html)
My TV Sticks are in transit so as soon as I have them I will of course work it out then post back a reply to my own question, assuming someone else does not answer it first.
I could just avoid all this and NAS my 3tb drive but thats an expense I would rather not incur.
Rooted the piece last night. Paragon mounted my poorly supported Cooler Master X Craft 360 straig away. For some reason exfat is not supported though, which is wierd cause both older paragon versions did and so should android 4.2 natievly, shouldnt it?
Yeah I heard exFat was supported too, its useful to know paragon worked.
still waiting for mine to arrive...
sleepingsword said:
Yeah I heard exFat was supported too, its useful to know paragon worked.
still waiting for mine to arrive...
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there are a couple of other tools that'll do the job as well like Chainfire's SitckMount http://goo.gl/T5TBTy
And for troubleshooting:
USB Host Controller http://goo.gl/fUq5ZS
DiskInfo http://goo.gl/qtgnOH
so far, no luck on exFAT , Paragon says "• exFAT evaluation mode - for OEMs only."
edit: Paragon app works in 4.2.2, dont know why it says it doesnt.

David Fay Janney-How to connect 4 bay hard drive enclosure to an Android TV box?

I have a "TX8" TV box running Android 6 Marshmallow with Amlogic S912 CPU and as media I have two hard drives enclosures Pro Mediasonic each holding 4 hard drives with media 2TB each with EXT4 format.
These media drives have been used with my old HTPC running linux and kodi and now I wish to use them with the new Android box but Android system does NOT recognize the drives. I purchased two apps/drivers that claim to recognize any format but does not work.
How I could successfully connect and use these hard drives?
Wrong forum. You need to find something directly related to Android TV boxen.

External hard disc not supported in android

I have a seagate ultra slim external hard disc with capacity 2TB.
it supported in android phones have above version 2.3
i have samsung j7 with marshmallow os. but when i connect my hard disc to my phone with OTG, it shows to format the disc.
It will work on all PCs. what is the solution
sorry for my english

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