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What is the possibility of running Android on this hardware?
I'm assuming the biggest problem would be the drivers correct?

I'd like to bump this up. I was wondering if anyone thinks it's even possible for Android to run on this phone at all.
Probably not, I do believe it uses a different processor than other Android phones, but I can hope.

echoshizzle said:
I'd like to bump this up. I was wondering if anyone thinks it's even possible for Android to run on this phone at all.
Probably not, I do believe it uses a different processor than other Android phones, but I can hope.
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Seriously? No responses on this huh?
If no one knows how to get it on this specific device, does anyone know how to get it on another device?

My guess is you won't see it, as Android seems to be for touchscreens only (just from what I've seen) and it seems like most people who've gone over to Android, come back to windows mobile anyway, so there isn't much desire to port perfectly good WinMo phones over to Android.

What is the deal with WM7?

I have heard so many bad things about WM7, that I just have to ask someone to confirm this!
The things I have heard are:
1. No copy/paste (Even Iphone has that now!)
2. The apps we have now for WM 6.X cant be used in WM7
3. Most apps for WM7 will be web based (What if you cant afford an unlimited data plan or you are somewhere where you cant get coverage?)
It sounds to me like they have taken all the bad things from the iPhone and implemented into wm7!
Why would anyone want to cripple an OS like that?
Please tell me if I have misunderstood all of this, or if it´s true?

1) i believe it's in the os but from what ive heard it's disabled in the shipping version.
2) the code itself would work, the interfaces however will not. so yes, they won't work.
3) i havent heard that.
you should be more *****ing that the iphone now has multitasking and wp7s doesnt. this is why im still using wm2003/wm5.

cheapusenet said:
1) i believe it's in the os but from what ive heard it's disabled in the shipping version.
2) the code itself would work, the interfaces however will not. so yes, they won't work.
3) i havent heard that.
you should be more *****ing that the iphone now has multitasking and wp7s doesnt. this is why im still using wm2003/wm5.
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Wait, you are telling me that WM7 will not have multitasking either? (I have not heard that, otherwise it would be on the top of my list!)
If all of this is true then it will be more restricted then iPhone! (YAAAY, way to go microsoft!)
Guess I will be switching over to Android very soon, unless microsoft change their mind before WM7 official release!

also it will only work with .net apps faster native apps will not be available
and only place you can get apps will be ms marketplace

Ok then, can someone please explain to me why some people think that WM7 is so great?
To me it feals like we are taking a few steps back instead of forward!
I mean, for a guy like me, that loves technology and wants to be able to do everything with the device, I just feel a little bit frustrated not being able to do so anymore! What is the point in locking everything down like this?
Are the devices we buy even ours anymore, or does microsoft own them?
I am sorry, but I am so angry right now, that I cant think of anything good to say!

"can someone please explain to me why some people think that WM7 is so great?"
who are saying that?
personally every phone I had apart from 1 have been wm phones but my next phone will most likely be an android

Rudegar said:
"can someone please explain to me why some people think that WM7 is so great?"
who are saying that?
personally every phone I had apart from 1 have been wm phones but my next phone will most likely be an android
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Some of my friends thinks that it is going to be the best OS yet!
But I guess that they dont have all the facts, and that they are basing their opinions on what they have seen on the Windows 7 (PC) OS! (Which is in fact very good!)
But just as you said, Android is going to be my next phone too! I just have trouble dealing with the fact, that all my purchased apps & games wont work anymore, and that I have to start buying them all over again! (If I can find equalent stuff!)

maybe when android phone inc in processor speed later on wm6.X emulators will be a reality but not likely soon enough to help you if those apps are stuff you need often / soon

branko.savic said:
Some of my friends thinks that it is going to be the best OS yet!
But I guess that they dont have all the facts, and that they are basing their opinions on what they have seen on the Windows 7 (PC) OS! (Which is in fact very good!)
But just as you said, Android is going to be my next phone too! I just have trouble dealing with the fact, that all my purchased apps & games wont work anymore, and that I have to start buying them all over again! (If I can find equalent stuff!)
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A lot of apps on android are free so at least you wont have to pay much (the most expensive app i've seen was $9.99)

I'll be upgrading to a HD2 in May, so until it dies any future upgrades (unless M$ come to their senses) will be ebayed, might as well make some money if O2 are willing to give me free useless tat.

I couldn't wait for WM7 falling more behind, so I took the plunge to Android in January. Best move too open source & I have not looked back!

[Q] android on china clones?

I'm curious about something. I'm sure we've all seen the enormous amount of supposed iphone clones coming out of china(hiphone, etc.) From what I've seen, they all seem to run proprietary os's that pretty much suck. Many of them have sd card slots, and seem to carry reasonable hardware. Anybody know if there's a chance that any of them will start running Android? Any devs working on porting Android to these phones? At the price these phones go for, if they came with or were able to run Android, it seems to me that it would lead to A huge spike in the Android market/community.
Anybody have any thought on this? Can it be done? Is there a reason it won't be done? from a users point of view, it seems like a win/win situation. Who wouldn't want a nice touchscreen Android phone for a hundred bucks or so??

it's already being done

do you know anything about what models, or where to get them?

yes, you could find the android smartphone
izzy spun said:
I'm curious about something. I'm sure we've all seen the enormous amount of supposed iphone clones coming out of china(hiphone, etc.) From what I've seen, they all seem to run proprietary os's that pretty much suck. Many of them have sd card slots, and seem to carry reasonable hardware. Anybody know if there's a chance that any of them will start running Android? Any devs working on porting Android to these phones? At the price these phones go for, if they came with or were able to run Android, it seems to me that it would lead to A huge spike in the Android market/community.
Anybody have any thought on this? Can it be done? Is there a reason it won't be done? from a users point of view, it seems like a win/win situation. Who wouldn't want a nice touchscreen Android phone for a hundred bucks or so??
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Just as I have said that as the android os has published, many corporation has it's own smartphone.Also the Shenzhen manufacturer has the new way to develop China android smartphone.In China, there has kinds of android smartphone solutions. You has find that in giayee.com or skype :giayee.

Android on the Arrive/7 Pro

Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!

It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?

I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.

i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.

why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.

eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..

eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....

exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.

eric12341 said:
not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.

Acsteffy87 said:
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either

I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...

Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel

At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel

drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!

eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.

hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky

[Q] Can we convert Symbian to Andorid

Can we force evolution? Shockingly we have an unused Nokia E7 with the hidious excuse for a platform and UI they proudly call Symbian. Any chance for being able to change this phone into a Android? I have unrooted my HTC desire to 2.3, so i am ready for the challenge. Thanks in advance either way!

http://www.mobilityfeeds.com/mobili...w-be-hacked-to-run-any-os-of-your-choice.html
I read this. Sounds good but we need a developer.

You just might. But let it run on nokia's software... Im not sure where But I remember reading a few days ago about people trying and messing up their phone.
Original is always better

bad idea
not a bad idea but everybody know Symbian is **** and about three years behind
but if you want take a crack at it but shes gonna be a *****
1.android
2.ios
3.windows
4.symbian
5.rim
6.web os

OmMeE said:
Original is always better
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Well yeah I guess people still need to find out how. But in case of the Symbian 3 it's for sure not better.
It's really terrible in many ways.
But it's sad cause the E7 is really a beast. Already the camera is just amazing.