I'm trying to understand and refine how my watch works with Digits. Things like how to save battery. What connects when? Do I "need" a data? Anyone wanna talk?
So nobody out there who knows Digits? Well alright then!
I believe the Digits in T-Mobile works similar to my carrier in Brazil.
Actually the 4G of watch only work when your phone has disconnected and you do not have connection with Wi-Fi network.
In Settings have a option for turn on the cellular network in always time, but the own watch warns that consumes more battery and you do not have necessity 'cause when connected in Bluetooth your calls going to clock too.
Therefore your Watch going work this way: Bluetooth first, after Wi-Fi and lastly (you can disable permanet the Wi-Fi) the network cellular.
Sorry, I don't speak English good.
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Hi All -
Sorry for a weird (simple) question:
I am used to GSM / At&T - where if you had a 3G connection you could talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time.
Is CDMA / VZW different? I just talked to a tech and she said it wasn't possible.
Confused...
-Daniel
According to what I have read on this forum and experienced, with CDMA, you cannot be on the internet and on the phone at the same time.
If I am incorrect, I am sure someone will correct me!
KD8FRE
that is correct. It's not possible on CDMA.
Wow. Interesting.
I guess there's a map for that in AT&T's future.
Thanks all - appreciate it.
-D
I never really noticed any kind of problems with it. I can make a phone call while my phone is tethered and I can still also receive calls, I think it probably temporally boots you off 3G during the phone call but put you back on right after.
Yeah EVDO is "1x Evolution Data Only/Optimized" which means that once a voice call comes in you are switched to 1X mode.
The latest SVDO specification (recently released) allows carriers to quadruple their voice calls and also allows data and voice at the same time. However nobody has implemented this yet.
I believe no one will implement this.... Because all providers are going HSPA or right to LTE... Where we will be able to have data and voice at the same time.
3G - voice and data
You can talk and surf the internet but only if you establish a Wifi connection
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You can talk and surf the internet but only if you establish a Wifi connection
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or if you use VoIP
Seriously though, what's the benefit of having an internet connection going at the same times as making a phone call? Please note, I'm not trying to be rude about this, I'm just curious about it.
Doesn't navigation(on sprint) use the internet? Im able to talk on the phone and still use navigation
There are some "live caller id" services which will do an online 411 lookup for any number that calls you, plus it's nice to be able to browse the internet to look something up while talking with someone (usually handsfree) for example if we're trying to decide on a movie or dinner or where to go out - all very handy to have a simultaneous internet and voice connection.
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Seriously though, what's the benefit of having an internet connection going at the same times as making a phone call? Please note, I'm not trying to be rude about this, I'm just curious about it.
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Two big ones:
1. Conference calls with email coming in. Like - your next meeting has been moved (exchange, push).
2. On phone call - someone asks a question that needs internet connection (I found it this way - they asked what the weather would be like on Sat (it was Monday). I said... hold on a sec... I'll find out... then realized that there is no internet... so I pulled my iPhone out of my pocket and checked it instead. Again - this is something that AT&T does today - just didn't think CDMA was behind the curve on it...
-Daniel
Cool, thanks for showing me the light
My problem (with Sprint) when I had to have a CDMA device is that there is a difference in signal between EVDO and 1X. For instance, I had full signal for EV, but hardly any for 1X... Thus I could be on data all I want, but I had troubles with phone calls....
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Seriously though, what's the benefit of having an internet connection going at the same times as making a phone call? Please note, I'm not trying to be rude about this, I'm just curious about it.
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yeah honey, i'll meet you ... where was that? let me punch it in my google maps... o wait CDMA FAIL
Generally my sensation has a decent reception. Most of the times i`m able to get a decent 3G/HSDPA signal without any problems.
The problem is, that I live outside the city and at home my (3G) reception sucks. My Sensation seems to suffer from this poor reception a lot more then my previous Desire-Z.
The 2G connection is fine. When the phone switches to 3G however, I only get one bar and the connection frequently drops so that I have no service at all. When i set the phone to only use 2G, the connection stays stable and since I have wifi, having only GPRS at home is no problem.
I don`t want to leave my phone on 2G only because when i`m not home, the 3G connection is usually fine. I was wondering if there is a way to manually change the 2g/3g switching treshold so the phone will only switch when it has a decent 3G signal. I tried to set GSM Auto (PRL) at the #*#4636#*#* menu, but this doesn`t do the trick.
Thanks
You might have already found an answer to your question, but in case you haven't, you might wanna check out WMLongLife.
It has the ability to automatically disable 3G when you have access to a WiFi network.
Hope this helps
I would be quite interested to see the trick how you are running such a deep system tweak application from Windows Mobile on a Android phone ...
Best regards,
dingolino
But there is a possibility with Tasker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530
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You might have already found an answer to your question, but in case you haven't, you might wanna check out WMLongLife.
It has the ability to automatically disable 3G when you have access to a WiFi network.
Hope this helps
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I used tasker to achieve this, when it notices my wifi ssid, it switches off 3g. The down side is that wifi needs to be on ask the time. You could also use "show and switch 2g/3g" from the market, with this APp you can switch with one button or use a schedule.
Guy from reply #2, this is an Android forum not winmo. Winmo it's dead.
I know for some the title is a little contradicting, but here is what I am looking for:
I would like to turn off calls and sms, and enable only mobile data (3g). Airplane mode is not good for this as it turns off mobile data. I have done this on an old windows mobile phone I used to have (motorola q) but I haven't found much info on android for this. I know some people have also asked the same question but no answer (forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/61387-how-turn-off-cell-phone-radio.html).
I have an Samsung exhibit 2, it's on gingerbread.
I am wondering if it isn't as simple as to replace the normal phone apks with the ones from a tablet (since tablets cannot make voice calls or sms) was anyone tried this? Maybe can point me to a place to try? I think the apks to replace would be the 2 being discussed here:
android.stackexchange.com/questions/7133/how-do-i-turn-off-the-cellular-radio-without-disabling-bluetooth
Thank you.
Tablets can make voice calls AFAIK. Although one looks very stupid holding a large pad onto the ear. Normally, it goes to Loudspeaker by default.
Anyways, what you are looking for might not be in Android. From the look of it, this is a driver feature. So if the drivers of the phone's radio does not support this feature it might not be possible.
Anyways, is it possible to do this in real GSM radios? Isn't GPRS in the same band as in Voice calls? I'm not sure about HSPA.
Why would you want to do that?
Do you just want to disable texting and calls? (You could just ignore them?), or you could just use Wifi.
In older phones (like 2g and basic cell phones), they did not have mobile data, so all they had was the cellular radio. In newer phones though, the cellular radio and 3g/4g is the same piece of hardware, so it is not possible, as far as I am aware, to disable one or the other selectively. Sorry
If you're own a sprint phone and try to download a phone call can break the connection. I am also looking for a way to temp disable the cell radio while downloading.
"Juice" might do it. I know some of the battery saver apps will allow this customization where you can have data only, radio off, radio on data off...etc
I have a T-Mobile connection. I wanted to enable Wifi Calling since the network service of T Mobile is very poor. How can I do that? I am able to turn on wifi calling by activating the hidden switch, but it doesnt turn ON the feature and while revisiting the setting it again shows OFF.
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I have a T-Mobile connection. I wanted to enable Wifi Calling since the network service of T Mobile is very poor. How can I do that? I am able to turn on wifi calling by activating the hidden switch, but it doesnt turn ON the feature and while revisiting the setting it again shows OFF.
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i am honestly not sure, as i've never tried wifi calling on this phone.
if you dont get it working, i can tell you that if you have tmobile service you can visit tmobile store and ask for a "cellspot". it will use your home internet to produce a usable LTE/cellular signal that acts just like a normal tower. if i remember correctly it was a $25 deposit on the device and that was it.
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I have a T-Mobile connection. I wanted to enable Wifi Calling since the network service of T Mobile is very poor. How can I do that? I am able to turn on wifi calling by activating the hidden switch, but it doesnt turn ON the feature and while revisiting the setting it again shows OFF.
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You, I, and a whole lot of other people have this issue with the Moto-g. There are a bunch of threads around the web about this. I used wifi calling with my old phone (LG Optimus) on T-Mobile / MetroPCS and I loved it, especially when I'm out of the country, but the (hidden) WiFi calling setting on the g3 won't stay enabled, even though MetroPCS says I still have the service enabled. The consensus seems to be that only phones purchased thru them are allowed to use WiFi calling. I haven't been told this by the company myself, but a lot of folks say they have.
For now, I switch back to my old phone every time I leave the country. I get a foreign SIM for my Moto, and I use my old phone for sending and receiving US calls via WiFi.
HTH
I'd like to force my Pixel 7 to disconnect from any mobile network, without using airplane mode. Do you know a way to achieve this?
Reason for asking this: I will travel abroad and use a secondary SIM to provide me with data, while using my primary SIM with voWiFi (or Backup calling). That'd would keep me reachable on my phone number and allow me to make calls/SMS @home at local rates.
The reason for having my primary SIM disconnected from any mobile network is due to the fact that my primary carrier will charge me for calls/SMS depending on the latest place I got connected to a mobile network. They charge roaming fees even when you're using voWiFi in airplane mode! I have tested this already on a previous trip.
One way would be to select a network manually, or a network that I know it won't connect. However, if I turn on and off airplane mode (to take a flight), the phone will connect to the latest network it connected successfully to.
So my strategy is to connect manually to my home network at home, hoping the phone doesn't magically connect to a network. That's why, I'd like to really make sure that the phone can't connect to any mobile network, just to be sure it won't connect to a network while roaming. But only on the primary SIM. For the other SIM I do want to get connected.
For those wondering, my carrier is T-Mobile NL.
Try messing up the apn details on your sim when abroad. That will prevent connection
The issue is that messing with apn won't prevent the phone to register to a roaming network. That alone will tell my carrier where I am and charge roaming fees accordingly...
@jasalta387 Interesting problem for sure. Can you forward your calls to the secondary (travel) sim and use WhatsApp or Signal to call on wifi? Or leave an auto message giving your foreign number. Any time you connect to the primary network you will be charged, no two ways about it on an Android device. I do believe the iPhone has that capability however. Even if you receive a text on the primary you will trigger a roaming charge. Perhaps the only way to avoid that is turning off the sim entirely while traveling. See if they have an inexpensive international plan?
Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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Indeed, iPhone can easily be disconnected from a cellular network by selecting one that doesn't register. That setting sticks even while cycling through airplane mode or a device reboot. On Pixel this is not the case. Pixel will register again, hence my issue.
I know I could rely on 3rd party apps or services or call forwarding. Problem is that I then need to redirect all people who could reach me to them somehow, while using wifi calling is just fine. Even SMS come and go through it. I just need to not make my carrier aware I'm overseas. Hence my question.
I could use a second device that provides me data and keep my phone all the time in airplane mode. This needs that I carry the two devices all the time with the logistics of charging two phones and all of that. I just want to do it all with my Pixel.
I was thinking one thing: I need to go to the US. Is 3G dead there for good? Because then I could tell my Pixel to use 3G and not allow 2G. That'd keep it away from any accidental network registration upon landing.
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I'm intrigued by this and would love to find a solution for you. Oh yeah, 3G is dead across the US from all reports. So I'm trying to parse this scenario, let's see if I get this right. You want to have phone calls come into your primary phone line (Sim 1) but no network connectivity for data, right so far. Also you want SMS to the primary while roaming. The problem is that even if you don't get a phone call or text the connection to the network alone will trigger a billing instance, right so far again?
My daughter has an iPhone and turns off data on the sim but can get phone calls and text. As soon as she does though there is a daily billing charge of $10 because she's outside the US. I also think she can connect to wifi and make calls and text without a carrier network. But I'm not sure about. But that aside, how would you like it to work? Would you like it to connect to the network but not get charged unless you get a call or SMS? Because once a call comes in you're roaming charges will ensue. In airplane mode and strictly wifi there should be no charges but you say they bill you anyway right? Are you sure you didn't get a text or something to trigger the charge? I hope I'm reading this right.
My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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My carrier bills calls and SMS based on the country of the latest connected cellular network. So if I don't connect to any network while I'm abroad my carrier will think I never left the country.
I don't want neither data nor calls/SMS on my primary SIM using cellular while abroad. I can get all calls and SMS via WiFi calling on that primary SIM. To get WiFi calling when I'm abroad I will use the data connection on my secondary SIM or any WiFi network.
Because of the need to get the secondary SIM on, airplane mode doesn't help me. So I need my primary SIM to never to any cellular network while I'm abroad.
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And if you turn off the sim then even WiFi doesn't work on your primary number?
If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
Try the 4636 menu
Choose the SIM you want from drop down
3 dot menu top right
Disable data connection
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If the SIM is turned off, then you don't get WiFi calling
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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Is it possible to adjust the order of airplane mode / network /wifi on-off so as to not allow the sim to connect to the network but still allow wifi on the sim? So for instance, disable the sim, turn on airplane mode, turn on the sim and then enable wifi calling while in airplane mode, turn off airplane mode with data turned off on the sim. I can't believe with no data, calls, sms and only wifi the carrier will charge you roaming. That just doesn't seem right.
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@jasalta387
I don't know if you would follow this suggestion...
But in case you are interested in it, this sounds like something you could pull off automatically with something like MacroDroid or Tasker or some other automation app -- even without being rooted! But I concur, it doesn't make sense that a carrier charge roaming when there would be no data, calls, or sms but only wifi....I'm of the opinion (previously stated somewhere in the thread here) that you might've either misread the bill and/or accidentally "caught" a text or transferred a byte of data and it triggered...
Hey there, I know it sounds harsh that a carrier bills this way. It is verified and discussed in a local forum here (in Dutch) https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/74880578#74880578
Of course, here there are a few things at play:
1- the carrier wants to have a clear way of communication and support. If you are abroad, those are the prices you pay for. That's it. You know it for sure. They don't want to have to explain how to turn on VoWIFI and explain how to make that working for every phone, or explain to you that you made a call thinking you were on VoWIFI while you weren't. Their approach is crystal clear.
2- the carrier makes some extra income this way. While travelling in the US: for every SMS sent they charge 0.51 EUR, calls placed 1.27 EUR, calls received 0.76 EUR and 2.50 EUR per MB of data. For data, they sell some passes that makes the price more reasonable. Note that unlimited plans for domestic data/calls here start at 25 EUR per month.
3- In The Netherlands (and for pretty much every country in EU) people rely quite a lot on 3rd party apps for calls and texting, especially when you are abroad. WhatsApp is the go-to service, even for domestic communication. People don't even bother using their home carrier when travelling outside of EU. They just remove (or disable) that SIM. So the high cost of roaming is usually left to business users for which companies pay or make better deals with the carriers.
One thing I didn't mention is that in NL, pretty much all carriers limit VoWIFI to Dutch IP addresses. To use VoWIFI you'd need to use a router that tunnels all IP traffic via a VPN that has an exit point in The Netherlands. That's how I conducted my test and verified that all activity using VoWIFI was billed using the same fares as if I was using a roaming cellular network.
I want to try this using a secondary SIM from a Dutch provider, which will give me the Dutch IP address. Backup Calling on my primary SIM will make that SIM to connect to VoWIFI. But to get my home fares, I really need to make sure that my primary SIM doesn't connect to any network while I'm travelling (hence my original request).