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Its still kind of early to loose hope I guess, but since everything is opensource with this phone (downloadable on Huawei's site), should we be hoping for a custom rom for the Mate 7? I'm scared it won't get popular enough for a developer to make one, even though it is an amazing phone.
Maan
I was hoping for some love from cynogen.
Extornia said:
Its still kind of early to loose hope I guess, but since everything is opensource with this phone (downloadable on Huawei's site), should we be hoping for a custom rom for the Mate 7? I'm scared it won't get popular enough for a developer to make one, even though it is an amazing phone.
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I don't want to sound pessimistic, but the phone is already more than 3 month old. I think they're will be no international custom rom for this phone. But i will be happier if I'm proven wrong.
Custom ROM's would be nice, but I'm afraid we'd lose the fingerprint scanning ability and what not.
You'll never know though! Personally, I can't wait to get mine in a few days (shipping from HK is a *****), I miss xposed framework.
When you open the boot loader and it rootest, then does the here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/themes-apps/xposed-modules-t2957769
I hope for CM.
Extornia said:
Its still kind of early to loose hope I guess, but since everything is opensource with this phone (downloadable on Huawei's site), should we be hoping for a custom rom for the Mate 7? I'm scared it won't get popular enough for a developer to make one, even though it is an amazing phone.
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What for ?
What's problem with EMUI 3.0 ?"?!??!
We just need lollipop base, EMUI is just fine. I would like to see some camera improvement, 4k support, better gpu thermal throtling... No need for custom rom if you ask me...
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We just need lollipop base, EMUI is just fine. I would like to see some camera improvement, 4k support, better gpu thermal throtling... No need for custom rom if you ask me...
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no we don't need lolipop sht.. it is worse.. 4.4.2 is best..
Probably a better outlook for the HAM7 than the HAM2.
Why the negativity? 3 months, really?
Newer android doesn't necessarily mean better, if it ain't broke?
The HAM2 was stuck on 4.2.x since its release. It got one update (4.4.2 on their Chinese portal). The HAM7 might get an update too, but there are 3 model versions out there so far (one that works in NA only), and they aren't interchangeable (different radios), so hopefully XDA has a Chinese translator for when they do update. Don't see why they wouldn't post at least an official update to 5.x.x somewhere down the line.
Are they going to do to HAM7 what they did to the HAM2? 'Here's some free phones and source, develop'. :cyclops:
Rumour mill: There's supposed to be a proper North American model released sometime.
I decided a month ago that encryption of the sd card and the main storage was a good idea since I realised I had all the important stuff on my Z3.
It became a bit slower and a bit more laggy but not that much, it felt like it was worth it.
Then Lollipop came and now the phone is so slow and laggy it almost feels like having the first Z again...!
What the hell is the matter with Android and Sony? It feels Android is becoming worse and worse...
Anyway, since the phone feels like crappaphone from 2010 I gotta do something about it. A couple of questions :
1. Is encryption worth performance-wise on such hardware as the Z3?
2. Is it worth waiting and hope Lollipop will become better or shall I downgrade for a previous official ROM?
3. I usually root my phones and install custom ROMs but the Z3 just seems a pain in ze arse, especially since my Windows 7 computer is dying and I'm trying Windows 10 on it and my other laptop is a Macbook Pro which doesn't work as a rooting OS? Anyway, I can borrow my wife's Window 8 computer to root it but is there a ROM worth running it compared to the original pre-Lollipop? I want speed and slim.
4. There is no stable Ubuntu Touch worth running on the Z3?
Gimme some good suggestions what to do dear XDA peeps
Errr full encryption here and I barely notice the performance difference. But I encrypted on lollipop, where as you did it on kit kat?
Maybe try doing a fresh start with lollipop and encrypt it from there.
Pure stock btw.
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I decided a month ago that encryption of the sd card and the main storage was a good idea since I realised I had all the important stuff on my Z3.
It became a bit slower and a bit more laggy but not that much, it felt like it was worth it.
Then Lollipop came and now the phone is so slow and laggy it almost feels like having the first Z again...!
What the hell is the matter with Android and Sony? It feels Android is becoming worse and worse...
Anyway, since the phone feels like crappaphone from 2010 I gotta do something about it. A couple of questions :
1. Is encryption worth performance-wise on such hardware as the Z3?
2. Is it worth waiting and hope Lollipop will become better or shall I downgrade for a previous official ROM?
3. I usually root my phones and install custom ROMs but the Z3 just seems a pain in ze arse, especially since my Windows 7 computer is dying and I'm trying Windows 10 on it and my other laptop is a Macbook Pro which doesn't work as a rooting OS? Anyway, I can borrow my wife's Window 8 computer to root it but is there a ROM worth running it compared to the original pre-Lollipop? I want speed and slim.
4. There is no stable Ubuntu Touch worth running on the Z3?
Gimme some good suggestions what to do dear XDA peeps
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don't have performance problems on lollipop z3 encrypted. but encrypted on lollipop. basically got new phone with kitkat, downgraded down to version ". 93" which can be rooted by exploit, rooted, installed recovery, created pre-rooted lollipop rom from stock with SuperSU and XZDualRecovery, flashed that, and removed basically all bloat and other cheap. Then encrypted and very happy. not only is my phone fast, but also last over two days on battery.
Ok, sounds like an idea to make backup of all the stuff and then downgrade and root it
Thanx for he idea!
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Ok, sounds like an idea to make backup of all the stuff and then downgrade and root it
Thanx for he idea!
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never regretted it. creating prerooted rom is easy and lollipop gives me better battery performance than kitkat.
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Ok, sounds like an idea to make backup of all the stuff and then downgrade and root it
Thanx for he idea!
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Just to give you additional reason and evidence to not to worry, I have benchmarked my Z3 using PCMark Work Benchmark (I trust this one more than any AnTuTu etc.) and it gives score of 4489 while average for Z3 is 3749. This means that debloated Lollipop (installed Xposed with couple modules like GravityBox etc, Amplify, Greenify, CyberShot) gives 19,7% increase in performance while maintaining excellent battery life. It lao means that my device has better performance than average Galaxy Note Edge (octa-core Exynos 7) or even HTC One M9 with Snapdragon 810 (octa-core A57/A53).
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Just to give you additional reason and evidence to not to worry, I have benchmarked my Z3 using PCMark Work Benchmark (I trust this one more than any AnTuTu etc.) and it gives score of 4489 while average for Z3 is 3749. This means that debloated Lollipop (installed Xposed with couple modules like GravityBox etc, Amplify, Greenify, CyberShot) gives 19,7% increase in performance while maintaining excellent battery life. It lao means that my device has better performance than average Galaxy Note Edge (octa-core Exynos 7) or even HTC One M9 with Snapdragon 810 (octa-core A57/A53).
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Thank you all for the tips! The phone is now rooted and upgraded to 5.02 and it really is fast again I might crypt it again tho, lets hope it stays fast
Time to look up what apps I can kill and clean it up You donnt know some guides for that?
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Thank you all for the tips! The phone is now rooted and upgraded to 5.02 and it really is fast again I might crypt it again tho, lets hope it stays fast
Time to look up what apps I can kill and clean it up You donnt know some guides for that?
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You want to remove bloat?
Just delete what tou don' t need.
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Thank you all for the tips! The phone is now rooted and upgraded to 5.02 and it really is fast again I might crypt it again tho, lets hope it stays fast
Time to look up what apps I can kill and clean it up You donnt know some guides for that?
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look for some debloating threads by @serajr and @moly82
hobs0n said:
Thank you all for the tips! The phone is now rooted and upgraded to 5.02 and it really is fast again I might crypt it again tho, lets hope it stays fast
Time to look up what apps I can kill and clean it up You donnt know some guides for that?
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Look in the attached file, i delete about 90% of stuff listed in there but the app names are pretty self-explanatory so keep the ones you really want and remove others.
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Look in the attached file, i delete about 90% of stuff listed in there but the app names are pretty self-explanatory so keep the ones you really want and remove others.
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Some of them seems to be pretty necessary for Android to function good, or am I totally wrong?
I have deleted some file which has lead to that I cant change the colour of the system/settings :/ I might be able to solve this with Xblast but Ill see about that
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Some of them seems to be pretty necessary for Android to function good, or am I totally wrong?
I have deleted some file which has lead to that I cant change the colour of the system/settings :/ I might be able to solve this with Xblast but Ill see about that
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Like what, just tell me the folder name, i deleted them before even the first boot, and my phone is working great.
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Like what, just tell me the folder name, i deleted them before even the first boot, and my phone is working great.
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while guys who experimented with debloating made a great job, there maybe some dependencies as stock ROM is largerly undocumented. I am running full stock, just debloated the obvious marketing and thirdparty crap and my phone works fast and battery last long.
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while guys who experimented with debloating made a great job, there maybe some dependencies as stock ROM is largerly undocumented. I am running full stock, just debloated the obvious marketing and thirdparty crap and my phone works fast and battery last long.
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That's a good way to go too, i deleted almost all the google stuff because you can redownload them anyways and some sony stuff, and almost googled everything and even if something doesn't work later on, you can always just copy back the apk of those app and clear dalvik cache, i have done that with DS3/4 controller app which i first removed and then later added as a system app.
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That's a good way to go too, i deleted almost all the google stuff because you can redownload them anyways and some sony stuff, and almost googled everything and even if something doesn't work later on, you can always just copy back the apk of those app and clear dalvik cache, i have done that with DS3/4 controller app which i first removed and then later added as a system app.
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I Actually delete things just move them into /system/backup folder therefore keeping all files not only apk but also libraries, and retain permissions
Hi everyone, just picked up my Mate 9(MHA-L29 C567) about a few days ago, I love this device already, everything from the build to the software(ROM).
However I am pretty stumped on the fact that the custom rom development lacks for this phone but I see a few ROMs that are debloated n what not, i see that unlocking the BL and flashing is a bit more different than what I dealt with in the past. Mind you I was a flashaholic for all the phones I have owned
My question to everyone here is, is it wise to stick with just the stock ROM or should I go and flash a debloated ROM? Has anyone noticed any differences at all(Battery, SOT, Speed etc)? Rooting and all that can be done but I just dont know if its worth flashing since Ive noticed the ROM dates on these are a bit dated and nothing much has changed
I used to root my phones and use custom ROMs in the past. Matter of fact, at times I flash a different custom ROM every week.
But since I noticed the ambiguity in rooting this phone, the rate at which people where bricking (sometimes need to pay FH to be rescued), lack of development but most importantly, the phone is quite fast and UI isn't too bad, I decided to save myself the headache.
zayidhs said:
I used to root my phones and use custom ROMs in the past. Matter of fact, at times I flash a different custom ROM every week.
But since I noticed the ambiguity in rooting this phone, the rate at which people where bricking (sometimes need to pay FH to be rescued), lack of development but most importantly, the phone is quite fast and UI isn't too bad, I decided to save myself the headache.
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Same here I was heavily into flashing ROMs and rooting my devices not even 24 hrs of ownership, but with me looking up the process of just even rooting the phone really concerns me with the amount of bricks I am seeing, and yes the phone and UI is already top notch
I added a poll for everyone to vote for
I think this thing stock is pretty good. Just got this a few days ago (MHA-L29 C567) and I'm coming from a Note 4. This thing is freaking fast as it is. Any bloat I disabled/uninstalled if it would let me. I to am a total flashaholic, but with this I feel theres no need. As long as Huawei gets some updates going through the pipes I'm happy with this thing!
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I think this thing stock is pretty good. Just got this a few days ago (MHA-L29 C567) and I'm coming from a Note 4. This thing is freaking fast as it is. Any bloat I disabled/uninstalled if it would let me. I to am a total flashaholic, but with this I feel theres no need. As long as Huawei gets some updates going through the pipes I'm happy with this thing!
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Same here, i uninstalled/disabled unnecessary apps, still very snappy, even from day 1 it was fast
I hope so too about Huawei sending out updates, if we get Oreo I'll be set till the Mate 11 or whatever Huawei is going to provide
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Same here, i uninstalled/disabled unnecessary apps, still very snappy, even from day 1 it was fast
I hope so too about Huawei sending out updates, if we get Oreo I'll be set till the Mate 11 or whatever Huawei is going to provide
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It should see at least one major upgrade I would think. I mean it's a flagship and just under a year old
Stick with stock
I would flash a custom rom if it was easy just for fun... But I am happy with it
First phone I haven't rooted - there are a few tweaks I'd like, and a few apps I'd like to uninstall, but apart from those minor issues this phone is a gem.
(yet another Note 4 user)
Stick with stock. Root and uninstalling unwanted apps are pretty easy.
I flashed custom rom however I think the stock rom is very good and has better battery life. I flash custom rom just for fun and I like the extra function of KangVip apk.
ok i am flashaholic
unlocked, root, twrp and flashed two roms from here (RomAur and Ephemeral Mate 9) but they ****ed up my M9 (bootloop and lot of other s..t) then back to stock then all again then rebrand, then Firedance rom for L29, then next ver., then next, then rebrand back to L09 then flashed Firedance-MHA-L09C432B194 from other forum and thats a winner
now waiting for next ver.
I was also a flashaholic once upon a time. This is the first device I have not rooted. I feel the stock experience has taken on a new life, things that we used to root for are now becoming part of the stock system. The only thing I wish I could have is a system wide add blocker. I know there are ways to do this without root (and I'm using them) but the root variants are better.
Nevertheless, keep this thing stock, don't root, use the heck out of it and don't think about it. [emoji3]
Sent from my MHA-L29 using Tapatalk
By the way, for the US C567 there is a new Beta build out, B230.
phillymade said:
By the way, for the US C567 there is a new Beta build out, B230.
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I'm on C567B190 with TWRP and Root.
Can I flash B230 without losing data and root?
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I'm on C567B190 with TWRP and Root.
Can I flash B230 without losing data and root?
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I suppose you can flash it and keep root if you pre root it and package it as a flashable zip. As far as keeping data, I don't think so.
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for all those that say that emui is better than........... well..... anything else, thats just wrong. i had this phone for about a week and i sold it asap. i bought it off ebay for a real cheap price. i fixed the cracked screen and found someone at school that wanted it. emui is just bad. its not as bad 4.0 and what not but its still horrible.
its far too modified to be of any use. if huawei just added their own bloat and "optimizations" without the UI crippling it would be okay. as it is one cant add any quick tiles which is horrible. almost all other oems dont cripple android to the same extent as huawei.
sadly the mate 9 has no custom roms and it looks like it will never have them so its not viable choice. i dont see that changing anytime soon.
The first android that I haven't rooted.
I'm using blokada to block ads which is working pretty well but I wish there was a way of deleting some of the stock apps (especially the calendar) or at the very least deactivating them so they didn't come back.
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I'm on C567B190 with TWRP and Root.
Can I flash B230 without losing data and root?
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That's exactly what I would be looking to do too, Allan on a C567 (well currently that anyway, rebranded). Let me know if you have any luck doing it.
droidbot1337 said:
for all those that say that emui is better than........... well..... anything else, thats just wrong. i had this phone for about a week and i sold it asap. i bought it off ebay for a real cheap price. i fixed the cracked screen and found someone at school that wanted it. emui is just bad. its not as bad 4.0 and what not but its still horrible.
its far too modified to be of any use. if huawei just added their own bloat and "optimizations" without the UI crippling it would be okay. as it is one cant add any quick tiles which is horrible. almost all other oems dont cripple android to the same extent as huawei.
sadly the mate 9 has no custom roms and it looks like it will never have them so its not viable choice. i dont see that changing anytime soon.
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Well, that's YOUR opinion. A lot of people like it this way.
https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-mp450-firmwares/
About Time MetroPCS About Time !!!
So....
xxbabiboi228xx said:
About Time MetroPCS About Time !!!
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I read that there was an improvement in the brightness dept.. are you seeing that ?
I got the message from METRO to update.. but, it did not process being rooted..
I'm ready to get this thing back to it original state anyway...
Si ! Si ! C !!!
xxbabiboi228xx said:
bout Time !!!
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Oh Man...
10c is running GREAT!
Faster.. Brighter.. Better.
I agree Boi...... BOUT TIME!
Patched ?
RaiderWill said:
10c is running
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Could Just Be Me...
But Xpose-Installer is patched with my update.
Glad I have plenty of 10b's backed up should I feel the need to go back..
More Than One Way To Skin A Cat..
RaiderWill said:
Could Just Be Me...
But Xpose-Installer is patched with my update...
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Don't Know Why....
But, I had to side-load to make it rain.
Now... 10c is running to perfection.. much faster and smoother than 10b ever was for me..
Gawd I Love It..
So if we install this, do we keep root?
The Bearer Of Bad News...
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So if we install this, do we keep root?
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So Sorry Mixi... But The Answer To Your Question Is No...
But 10c is easy enough to Re-Root.
And You Are Going To L-O-V-E It..
It's been too long since I've flashed firmware for an LG phone. We use LG Up these days?
It's Easy !
ixijimixi said:
It's been too long since I've flashed firmware for an LG phone. We use LG Up these days?
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Hello Mixi...
Since your on MetroPCS just take the update..
I just did the update for the Tmob TP450. Not seeing any significant difference. What measurable improvements are you seeing that are so exciting?
Speaking For Myself...
E-XDA-1 said:
I just did the update for the Tmob TP450. Not seeing any significant difference. What measurable improvements are you seeing that are so exciting?
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E1.. I Can Only Speak For Me..
I don't know how "Exciting" the improvements are.. but, I know I have a smoother overall experience.
Apps open faster.. visibility appears better outdoors.. and, Xposed is running as smooth as silk.
Oh... and even though I already had an EXCEPTIONAL battery/device.. and was getting 12+ hours S.O.T. ( I posted some pics somewhere else in these threads a month or so ago..) My battery life has gotten even better ( see pic ) I get over 8 hours S.O.T. easily.. and as you can see, I still have a little over 40% battery life left.. A day an a half is easily achieved.. This device is running so well that, I've actually slowed my march towards the Redmi Note 4 or Moto G5S Plus either of which will be my next device due to their overwhelming Developer support.
I can't speak to what T-Mobile does/adds to their devices.. or what apps you have/run that may effect you not seeing any changes in performance or battery life.. everyone's experience is different.. but this is mine.
I will say that my battery life was outstanding right from the box and still is. If I don't do some heavy duty work on the phone it will last well over a day, maybe 2. But I do use both Data Saver and Battery Saver and I think that helps a lot. And it's great to be able to swap the battery unlike most current flagship phones.
Can someone post unmodified boot images and recovery's for 10b and 10c? I'm trying to uninstall TWRP and root before I go over (to have a clean nandroid before I swap) and I only have access to Linux....
Edit: Found it!!! https://mega.nz/#!dOo2kLCT!3mj8vni8h9jozQYQ9BtqNmz3xGv7990LFfJ8T53qBQg
Thanks to sdflowers32 for being a true hero!
You Really Should Delete It...
YMMV...
But...RCTD really needs to be put to death.
I've gained about 1 hour's more SOT @ 1% loss.
See Before & After pics...
Rest In Peace TD.
Stock ROM TWRP backup?
So, does anyone here have the stock ROM, and TWRP installed?
If so, would anyone mind uploading a system + kernel backup?
Thanks in advance!
RaiderWill said:
E1.. I Can Only Speak For Me..
I don't know how "Exciting" the improvements are.. but, I know I have a smoother overall experience.
Apps open faster.. visibility appears better outdoors.. and, Xposed is running as smooth as silk.
Oh... and even though I already had an EXCEPTIONAL battery/device.. and was getting 12+ hours S.O.T. ( I posted some pics somewhere else in these threads a month or so ago..) My battery life has gotten even better ( see pic ) I get over 8 hours S.O.T. easily.. and as you can see, I still have a little over 40% battery life left.. A day an a half is easily achieved.. This device is running so well that, I've actually slowed my march towards the Redmi Note 4 or Moto G5S Plus either of which will be my next device due to their overwhelming Developer support.
I can't speak to what T-Mobile does/adds to their devices.. or what apps you have/run that may effect you not seeing any changes in performance or battery life.. everyone's experience is different.. but this is mine.
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I'd second the comment about smooth user experience. This is by far the fastest most responsive phone I've owned to date and 10c added an extra bump. I removed some of the LG and TMobile junkware via ROM Toolkit like the "Lookout" tool, TMobile TV and more and it's definitely faster. I disabled all of the animations and set them to zero. Also have installed AdAway and AdGuard which both help tremendously IMO. Overall a great phone for me and highly stable. I like this phone better than my LG G4 although the G4 has a better camera. Stylo 3 Plus is one nice phone. Thanks to the admins. and senior developers. - Stylo 3 Plus - LG TP450 - OEM Unlocked, TWRP, Rooted, No Verity, etc. 10c via LGUP.
Still Functional...
RaiderWill said:
I don't know how "Exciting" the improvements are.. but, I know I have a smoother overall experience..
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I'd second the comment about smooth user experience. This is by far the fastest most responsive phone I've owned to date and 10c added an extra bump..
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Hello..
It's nice to see new owner's happy with their purchase.
A suggestion to all that read this...
Get a "Slim-Case" LOOSE THE SCREEN PROTECTOR it's simply not needed.. unless you try REALLY hard.. you will not scratch the screen..
Then, this becomes a very slim and somewhat modern device for the average user. Rooted-Stock is 110% stable and very fast for a snapdragon 435 and batterylife for me is 12 hrs+ S.O.T... this phone works well and for me, will usher me into 2018 just fine..
Until the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 arrives..
Flash Fire experience for taking updates
So i own two LG stylo MP450 from MetroPCS
(well, my wife owns one)
I successfully used FlashFire to update mine while maintaining root.
For some reason, hers was not successful and i had to do it the long way.
This was true when i went from MP45010b to MP45010c
Flashfire worked on mine from c to d and d to e
Her's, since i was using LG UP i just did the manual way straight to e.
Hope this helps anyone, my two cents - give it a try.
bpatton88 said:
So i own two LG stylo MP450 from MetroPCS
(well, my wife owns one)
I successfully used FlashFire to update mine while maintaining root.
For some reason, hers was not successful and i had to do it the long way.
This was true when i went from MP45010b to MP45010c
Flashfire worked on mine from c to d and d to e
Her's, since i was using LG UP i just did the manual way straight to e.
Hope this helps anyone, my two cents - give it a try.
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What root are you using? SU or Magisk?
Chainfire's SU
Hello, I am officially downgrading back to Oreo now due to not seeing bugfixes from Xiaomi for several months on common problems reported by many people to Xiaomi ever since Android Pie update was pushed. They did not fix anything, and it does not look like they will either.
Let me debunk for you my thoughts on Android One and how Xiaomi has handled it:
- We are guaranteed two major updates and security patches, but we are not guaranteed any stability or bugfixes! This is just a cheap update to Android Pie with only security updates being pushed, and I find it absolutely unacceptable. Xiaomi probably does not want to give resources to such a unpopular not profitable or well-selling device (compared to their other devices and MIUI) and are just delivering the minimal they have to in order to stick to and fulfil the conditions set in the Android One project.
- I noticed not only lower battery lifetime, but also several bugs. This includes completely random MASSIVE lags in for example something as simple as using Google Maps (nothing else being used on my phone when lagging!)
- My Wi-Fi not working well at all taking a long time to scan and connect, not being able to connect to hidden networks AT ALL
- Random crashes even when I was on my way to an important exam and even "freezing" up in calls and weird buzzing screeching noises in calls.
- I have LTE, but I cannot call over VoLTE or VoWiFi, because this phone does not have the support for my carrier. My phone calls now go through 2G! While my Apple, Samsung and Huawei friends are laughing at me.
- My friend reported one of his speakers DIED on him not even half a year after the purchase.
Note, I have done factory resets, I have tried to give it a chance, but it just doesn't improve. This is a horrible device, and that is my 2 cents.
You should not buy phones just from the specifications you see it has, you should care about plenty a other things that might be wrong. I have decided to go back to Oreo, and at least have a decent device, and I think you should too, which is why I am sharing this with you. Will I buy another phone from Xiaomi? I am not so sure after this ...
How you do it is simple, you just download the latest Oreo OTA: V9.6.10.0.ODLMIFF, do OEM unlocking and flash it using flash_all_lock_crc.sh on Linux or the flash_all_lock_crc.bat on Windows (will erase all data NB)
Join me downgrading to Oreo, WARNING: Only at your own risk!
Need drivers, download the fasboot package binary for Linux or Windows from Google and install Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot drivers, for Linux it is not necessary when I tried it:
Windows: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip
Linux: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-linux.zip
Mac: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-darwin.zip
1. Download the latest 8.1 OTA http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.6.11.0....0.ODLMIFF_20181112.0000.00_8.1_8028e3bf1c.tgz
2. Enable developers options by tapping the build number in about phone multiple times, and in developer options enable OEM unlocking
3. Shut the phone down, hold the volume down when plugging it into the PC or hold the volume down + power to enter fastboot mode (you should see it say fastboot and the Mitu mascot).
4. OEM unlock using command "fastboot oem unlock" WARNING: Full data wipe, unless you hold volume down you might be able to stop this, look for other threads on xda-developers for this.
5. Flash using flash_all_lock_crc.sh on Linux or the flash_all_lock_crc.bat on Windows, maybe you can use the ones without data wipe, again you should take backup of your important data!
6. Enjoy a not so terrible device
Now I just have to figure out how to stop auto-downloading of May OTA and notifications about updating, probably needs root?
EDIT:
Can go into Developer Options and disable Automatic system updates
I complete agree with you bro, Android One is almost like we are beta testers for all the time. My Mi A2 lite give me some annoying issues:
1) Bluetooth don't work proprely with my sound car system (freeze the music when I take in my hands or the road shake the device);
2) Autofocus don't work for Gcam in low light and even in the stock app camera the focus isn't correct edge to edge, making some softness in the corners;
3) Hotspot wifi router works for some minutes and for nothing the mobile data stop.
4) Ram management is a rubbish, just opening the camera any other application reload;
After all I understand Samsung and others Brands for delay updates, at least is not full of bugs like Xiaomi (same with MIUI).
if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
NeoZX58 said:
if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
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And about customs ROMs? They are more stable and bugfixeds than stock or not reliable yet? Actually I prefer to install Pixel Experience (Pie) and not downgrade to Oreo.
I like pir granted I never use stock ROM custom is the way to go
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
I never upgraded from Oreo to Pie. Looks like i made the right choice.
gatomestre08 said:
I complete agree with you bro, Android One is almost like we are beta testers for all the time. My Mi A2 lite give me some annoying issues:
1) Bluetooth don't work proprely with my sound car system (freeze the music when I take in my hands or the road shake the device);
2) Autofocus don't work for Gcam in low light and even in the stock app camera the focus isn't correct edge to edge, making some softness in the corners;
3) Hotspot wifi router works for some minutes and for nothing the mobile data stop.
4) Ram management is a rubbish, just opening the camera any other application reload;
After all I understand Samsung and others Brands for delay updates, at least is not full of bugs like Xiaomi (same with MIUI).
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Seems like more of the same issues I have experienced, it is simply not good enough for what would be expected of day-to-day use. I think we got exactly what we paid for with this device, sadly, and from what I know the Pie update already released to for example S8 and it is working perfectly well and stable for those. But, again, much more popular and well-financed device than our cheap A2 Lite.
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if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
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For me this has been the easiest device to downgrade. Xiaomi hosts the OTA officially, OEM unlocking simply by an easy command no phone or e-mail verification just like the Pixel(Probably Android One related), and they made the script to downgrade it for you. I had much more trouble before on other devices. like Samsung using ODIN, Xiaomi with MIUI and similar, having to go through a verification by e-mail to unlock at HTC etc etc. I do not get what you are on about?
Also, why is it a pain without patches or fixes? It is much better than what you get with Pie so far, at least that is for me. There is way more lacks of patches and fixes for Pie than for Oreo ...
Remember, this was the last version released just before the May Pie update, it is very recent in itself only by some 7 months ...
anzhaki said:
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
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I really wanted to try the custom ROMs, but I have banking apps that complain to me if my device is rooted or similar, and refuses to run. These are important apps for paying for goods and services that you need in order to go about your life normally. I can get around it using Magisk Hide, but I would rather not
SIM/network problems actually worked fine on Oreo and Pie (official ROM) for me all the time. I can use 4G LTE band20 perfectly and other bands to access internet, and it immediately connects to 2G/3G(3G being closed in my country soon for 4G and 5G improvement) for calls when it needs to. Coverage is also well in my country. My company use Ericsson base stations and not Huawei ones, but not like that matters.
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And about customs ROMs? They are more stable and bugfixeds than stock or not reliable yet? Actually I prefer to install Pixel Experience (Pie) and not downgrade to Oreo.
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pixel experience, AOSiP and Lineage are the best custom Roms so far, but, my issue is from RAM management in android Pie (custom or stock).. after hours of use the phone becomes unusable... :/
courfazor said:
For me this has been the easiest device to downgrade. Xiaomi hosts the OTA officially, OEM unlocking simply by an easy command no phone or e-mail verification just like the Pixel(Probably Android One related), and they made the script to downgrade it for you. I had much more trouble before on other devices. like Samsung using ODIN, Xiaomi with MIUI and similar, having to go through a verification by e-mail to unlock at HTC etc etc. I do not get what you are on about?
Also, why is it a pain without patches or fixes? It is much better than what you get with Pie so far, at least that is for me. There is way more lacks of patches and fixes for Pie than for Oreo ...
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nope, if you only do this, you don't have RIL, can't record videos from camera and only one sim works...
i told you because i did it, you need a several fixes for sim, modify files in the official OTA to flash more files and need the modem pie img and flash it too...
i agree that the android one program wont ever give us a solid flawless build, after all it is ment for lower to mid range devices that will be quickly overlooked after release , i must admit this a2 lite is the best phone i have had so far even with the instabilities but thanks to the xda community i have been able to make the device truly mine and how i like it. i had to get this device after my nexus 5x broke during in a motorcycle accident, it was all i could afford and it performs well for my needs, i did install twrp and Butterfly for Daisy to fix the GCam mis focus issues, eventually i gave in and installed magisk to manage tge kernel with arduitor and increase battery life. i never had the luxury to run Oreo on this devixe because as soon as i got it i unlocked the bootloader and when it restarted it booted into the updated pie partition and i decided to run with it. i dont think xiaomi or Google will actually fix any bugs but we are on XDA and DIY is always an option.
NeoZX58 said:
pixel experience, AOSiP and Lineage are the best custom Roms so far, but, my issue is from RAM management in android Pie (custom or stock).. after hours of use the phone becomes unusable... :/
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Not good. I think this was the same massive lagging issue I experienced, I just did not know it was due to bad RAM management. Is this a fix that needs to be done to the ROM directly or only the kernel? I am not familiar with custom ROM/kernel development that much, but I have experienced some kernels on devices working much better than others like ElementalX.
NeoZX58 said:
nope, if you only do this, you don't have RIL, can't record videos from camera and only one sim works...
i told you because i did it, you need a several fixes for sim, modify files in the official OTA to flash more files and need the modem pie img and flash it too...
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I am able to record videos from my camera perfectly, it works very stable. I used this version of Oreo just some months ago and it worked great. I have the version with 4GB RAM and 64GB eMMC. I think the reason I experience no issues is because I only use one primary SIM for 4G and calling in SIM slot 1, and do not have a use for the 2nd SIM slot so for me, it is perfect, but too bad for the people that actually needs this feature like you About updates to RIL I assume the firmware used for modem/calling, which for me works so any updates are not that needed for me to have it working perfectly.
Azatecas said:
i agree that the android one program wont ever give us a solid flawless build, after all it is ment for lower to mid range devices that will be quickly overlooked after release , i must admit this a2 lite is the best phone i have had so far even with the instabilities but thanks to the xda community i have been able to make the device truly mine and how i like it. i had to get this device after my nexus 5x broke during in a motorcycle accident, it was all i could afford and it performs well for my needs, i did install twrp and Butterfly for Daisy to fix the GCam mis focus issues, eventually i gave in and installed magisk to manage tge kernel with arduitor and increase battery life. i never had the luxury to run Oreo on this devixe because as soon as i got it i unlocked the bootloader and when it restarted it booted into the updated pie partition and i decided to run with it. i dont think xiaomi or Google will actually fix any bugs but we are on XDA and DIY is always an option.
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But it was actually working well enough for me too on some of the builds, but I do agree that it is probably not a phone that was meant to be supported for long. Another person I know has the A2 model, and he says it has been working perfectly well for him for all this time even on latest Android Pie. I do not know if there are much differences between them, but I do know the A2 is a much more popular device. Personally I prefer the A2 Lite just for the audio jack, and I still like the legacy MicroUSB. People would call me mad for this, but haha, that is just who I am.
I am afraid this device is not nearly as popular to get enough DIY effort into making a custom ROM/kernel, I am certainly not anyone who knows enough to get into development of it. I hope it will go well and that somebody will take the challenge, or maybe it has already happened?
courfazor said:
I am afraid this device is not nearly as popular to get enough DIY effort into making a custom ROM/kernel, I am certainly not anyone who knows enough to get into development of it. I hope it will go well and that somebody will take the challenge, or maybe it has already happened?
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i actually think the mi a2 lite is more popular than the regular A2, it has more features and a better battery for a cheaper price so it is more accessible to more people and therefore more reach developers. Butterfly for Daisy is a great Custom Kernel that fixes some issues including the GCam focus issue among other things on Pie, i highly suggest you read that thread to see if it offer solutions to some of your issues with the device. im still running stock Rom with the custom kernel and everything works great. others have reported Resurrection Remix/Puxel Experience/ and Lineage Os bring additional stability and fixes in coordination with the kernel. i havent found the need to try a custom rom yet but development is very active on the device. however it is a low end phone and QA is not as good so some devices might be lemons straght out of the factory and not perform as good.
I have almost no issues with my Mi A2 Lite. No slowness except what I expect from a $159 phone, GPS works, bluetooth works albeit I hate that they removed AAC, WiFi is perfectly fine and maxes out my connection with bluetooth on. Only thing I don't like is how crap calling is, but I figured that would be the case when I bought it at again, $159 and knew some American bands were missing. Battery life is 8-11 hours of SOT with regular usage. I use the IR blaster to control my stereo receiver, FM radio is nice. Glass has some light scratches, but again I expect that for $159.
I have a brand new never opened Oreo Mi A2 Lite in my desk drawer still in the box that I haven't felt the need to pull out yet. I think as someone else has pointed out, there may be two hardware revisions because mine is fairly flawless.
I downgrade my Mi A2 Lite to Oreo V9.6.6.0.ODLMIFF (August 2018) and was surprised how good and perfect is this version, looks like I have an new Smartphone. Now Bluetooth works perfect, Gcam Autofocus is accurate, fine RAM mannagement, battery life is great, only miss FM Radio.
Mi A2 Lite was arruined by Android Pie.
Shame on you Xiaomi, I'm very disappointed with the crap updates that we received from you, seems like your only purpose is for the users buy an new one device.
anzhaki said:
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
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For the ram management... open your kernel 'tweaker' app and disable 'Adaptive Low Memory Killer', it seems to like killing apps on background, even with enough ram to spare... It'll make no magic, but definately helps :highfive:
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Could you please post a tutorial for this, or a good noob Xiaomi step by step? I have unlocked my phone a few months ago. I don't remember how I did it. I have since moved to another phone. I have installed twrp and had it rooted with majisk. a factory reset took care of majisk. I would love to go back completely to stock oreo.
I only need one slot on the sim so this should be ok.
Your directions for install sound good but seems like something might be missing. I'm new to the xiaomi devices. They seem way more comlicated than all the Samsungs I've had.
PLEASE, and thank you:good::good:
Rev10eight said:
Could you please post a tutorial for this, or a good noob Xiaomi step by step? I have unlocked my phone a few months ago. I don't remember how I did it. I have since moved to another phone. I have installed twrp and had it rooted with majisk. a factory reset took care of majisk. I would love to go back completely to stock oreo.
I only need one slot on the sim so this should be ok.
Your directions for install sound good but seems like something might be missing. I'm new to the xiaomi devices. They seem way more comlicated than all the Samsungs I've had.
PLEASE, and thank you:good::good:
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All your data on phone will be lost , take back-up on PC if necessairy.
For full stock rom , download Miuflashtool zip. extract and install on your PC, download stock rom for your phone on your PC and extract it , boot into fastboot and connect your device to PC ,in flashtool click on refresh, your device should appear ( numbercombination 225cc80.... or something like that) click browse in the left corner and select the extracted stock rom file, hit flash and wait till you see succes in green on the right . Your device will take about 10 min to boot . You're now on stock rom, locked bootloader, no root and stock recovery . I flashed my device MiA2 lite) yesterday with latest Pie stock rom after I had bootloop
bricked it. I don't now about oreo stock rom , there could be issues with network connection, video playback and swapped simcard because of anti rollback protection.
Thank you so much.
That was super simple and super quick. I am back to stock Pie, unrooted and and the boot loader is locked again. I used OREO and the phone works fine. Make sure you disable update or it will update to pie. I need to redo it to go back to oreo.
I want to downgrade. What about second sim slot OREO error ??? What version is the best? And what version havent bluetooth/wifi/gps issue? I dont remember what version I was at last on oreo.