Hey so.. Phone's root bugged out yesterday and I downloaded twrp and decided I should upgrade it to Android 8.0 then root it. After many hours of failures I managed to flash a 8.0 but I couldn't make the CSC to work, since my phone is region locked to another country so I decided to go back to 7.0 and try again.. but now here it gets complicated because I really don't know what to do. I'm not sure how exactly to go back from 8.0 to 7.0.. Can someone give me detailed steps on what should I do.. I'd be very grateful!
PS. I don't know if I'm posting this in the right forum thread.
Here https://updato.com/how-to/how-to-install-an-official-samsung-stock-firmware-using-odin
Same site, or sammobile can be used to get the firmware files to flash with Odin
Note: The last version of 7.0 locked the ability to downgrade, I haven't gone to Oreo so can't confirm, but it ability to downgrade may also be removed from Oreo.
Beanvee7 said:
Here https://updato.com/how-to/how-to-install-an-official-samsung-stock-firmware-using-odin
Same site, or sammobile can be used to get the firmware files to flash with Odin
Note: The last version of 7.0 locked the ability to downgrade, I haven't gone to Oreo so can't confirm, but it ability to downgrade may also be removed from Oreo.
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I can confirm, downgrading from Oreo 8.0 to Nougat 7.0 is possible, even without tripping knox.
It's just flashing the previous firmware with odin and factory reset the phone before first run and you're fine to go
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Hi.
I have a G955U Galaxy S8+ AT&T Factory Unlocked on Android 7.0
Baseband Version: G955USQU1AQD9
Android Security Patch Level - April 1, 2017
I no longer live in the US, and currently in the Philippines. Phone works great and the signal is too and all, but I cannot get OTA updates.
Can I just download the firmware file in this thread and flash straight through ODIN, or do I need to follow another guide?
Thanks in advance
You can, however there are specific sequences to follow, so you have to update in firmware released order.
I encountered the same problem so I downloaded odin that worked for Nougat and loaded all version to BRB1 I think it is and then went to Oreo. Currently on CRC5.
Another note, when you are about to hit Oreo you will need to download the odin that works for Oreo. It can be found in the CRC5 thread.
Happy Updating
onedonrazor said:
You can, however there are specific sequences to follow, so you have to update in firmware released order.
I encountered the same problem so I downloaded odin that worked for Nougat and loaded all version to BRB1 I think it is and then went to Oreo. Currently on CRC5.
Another note, when you are about to hit Oreo you will need to download the odin that works for Oreo. It can be found in the CRC5 thread.
Happy Updating
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Is this really necessary?
I want to update to Oreo as well but since I'm AT&T unlocked and not currently using AT&T network I'm stuck in the June software update so I'll have to flash like 7-8 firmware updates and each one being about 2-3 GB to download.
Also, is there any stock Samsung firmware I can download so I can avoid having to manually flash every software update? Or am I just stuck with the AT&T firmware?
Thanks in advance.
I'm also having this problem. Need to flash the updates through ODIN but I can't find every single stock file leading up to BR9 on this site. Do I really have flash them all? Or is there another way?
Hello,
I've a SGS7 (G930F) currently running The Galaxy Project (rooted and TWRP too, duh). I want to downgrade to stock 7.0 G930FXXS2DRDI since I'm displeased with overall performance of every 8.0 (both stock and custom) I've encountered so far. Now as I've read some threads regarding this matter I developed some doubts and questions. To be exact - would flashing stock 7.0 over my current rom (custom with 8.0 bootloader and modem) cause my phone to brick or as I've read in other threads cause problems with vibration/camera? If so could I just flash 7.0 AP, CSC and Modem and leave the 8.0 bootloader (seems silly, but I'd rather ask)?
Thank you
If you do the full flash with AP, CSC, CP and BL you shouldn't have any issues. The vibration/camera issues are usually caused by having a BL version that doesn't match your AP.
However the last 7.0 release locked phones from downgrading via Odin, I would have expected this to carry into Oreo
All you need to do is download the latest version of nougat and flash.
Well I flashed an older one - FXXS2DRAA and unfortunately it failed at Odin, after rebooting told me to use emergency option in Smartswitch. Flashed back to 8.0 no problem though.
Hi, put the fone on download again and reflash 8.0, that is all. I maked.
I bought the unlocked USA version of the S8+ (SM-G955U1), and it came stock with Oreo/8.0. I've tried multiple times to flash firmware with Nougat so that I can downgrade and root, because all other firmware for Oreo doesn't work. I don't know if the process is unsuccessful for me because the phone wasn't ever updated from 7.0 to 8.0 or what, but at this point I'm willing to resend this phone and just the Internantional/Exynos version if nothing else works.
Thanks for the help regardless.
Id like to downgrade my S7 from nougat to marshmallow. My current lowest factory reset option is nougat on bootloader version 3. Id like to downgrade to a downloaded stock firmware that uses version 1 of the bootloader.
my device is currently rooted and carrier unlocked
ive made a full backup of the nougat system, before ive done anything to it other than the rooting.
ive been reading around that some people were able to bypass the downgrade bootloader lock error in odin by first going into their desired downgraded firmware tar files and deleting any file that ends in .bin , and then successfully been able to flash the older firmware. what I want to know is if i decide to try this, and it still doesnt work in odin, or something still doesnt work properly - am i still able to fully restore from that backup ive just made? has anyone done this without issues? i hate the look and feel of nougat and oreo looks and feels the exact same...
i did make another thread about downgrading, but i didnt know nearly as much at the time. Been told downgrading is impossible and thats true, officially speaking. Id just like to know if anyone has been successful with this workaround.
What model, SM-G930F? Is OEM Unlocking turned on?
If it's a G930U/V/T/A/P then you won't be able to.
For the G930F so long as you don't have the latest Nougat version it shouldn't prevent downgrading. Otherwise upgrading up to Oreo then back down just by flashing in Odin should work, as Oreo doesn't have the downgrade lock that the newest Nougat has.
Beanvee7 said:
What model, SM-G930F? Is OEM Unlocking turned on?
If it's a G930U/V/T/A/P then you won't be able to.
For the G930F so long as you don't have the latest Nougat version it shouldn't prevent downgrading. Otherwise upgrading up to Oreo then back down just by flashing in Odin should work, as Oreo doesn't have the downgrade lock that the newest Nougat has.
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model is sm-g930w8 but yes OEM unlocking is on, and so is usb debugging just to be on the safe side. It is running the very first version of nougat right now, 7.0. But the security patch is from feb 2018. Ive read that the bootloader itself is unlocked on this version of the phone though, its just that downgrade protection in the software that could get in the way, if what i read was correct? in the same place was where i read that deleting those bin files from the firmware i want to install would be a good workaround, it would make the bootloader not check it at all if i read it correctly.
i havent tried anything yet, ive been doing my research first to stay on the safe side. it might work without issues, but I want to be prepared for if issues do arise, what the correct next step should be to keep the device itself not bricked
Yea not 100% sure for the G930W8, it's the same SoC as the G930F but the firmware restrictions could be different since it's the Canada specific version
so, i decided to brave it and try it, since to read around you find alot of conflicting information... i was suspecting that odin would fail shortly after starting at sboot.bin if it was the bootloader thats the issue. but it didnt. it failed the very next step after that at param.bin.
anyone happen to know what param.bin means?
What files are you trying to flash? I have had the same problem, even though the bootloader is unlocked the device has efuses that prevent downgrade to older binary. I was using U2 binary and only managed to downgrade to nougat u2 binary version. Even when I skipped bootloader files, marshmallow would still give an error that system.img is version 0 where as device is v1
Hello all
Been a member here for some time now and have a perplexing issue.
I upgraded a Samsung Device SM T395 to OS Pie 9 and decided I didn't like it. (There are no other posts with help on this matter)
I kept the STOCK roms Nougat 7.1 and Oreo 8 and want to put Nougat 7.1 back on my device , but is proving difficult using ODIN 13.3.1 or any other version of Odin. The result is FAIL, that's using a combination of AP, CSC, CP and BL.
I managed to get Oreo 8 back on it, but want Nougat 7.1 original installed instead.
Can anyone tell me can ADB Fastboot be used to Flash a Stock Rom back on a Samsung Device or is Odin the only method?
I know there are other similar programs like QFIL and Qualcomm that I have used for the Mi Max brand devices.
The device was rooted with Nougat 7.1 originally and I have USB debug set and FRP / OEM lock off also. So there's no problem there.
The last resort (stupidly expensive idea :crying is for me to buy another exact device that has Nougat 7 installed when boxed up!
I don't see how upgrading to Pie 9 and then wanting to go back to the original factory installed rom is a big problem, can anyone explain?
Would a CUSTOM Nougat 7.1 rom work if installed via TWRP ?
I have also come across this COMBINATION Software https://samsungcombinationfile.com/samsung-sm-t395 that is supposed to allow the downgrading of Android software, but hasn't worked as I had been lead to believe.
https://combinationfirmware.com/combination-samsung-galaxy-tab-active/
Thanks for reading :good:
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Hello all
Been a member here for some time now and have a perplexing issue.
I upgraded a Samsung Device SM T395 to OS Pie 9 and decided I didn't like it. (There are no other posts with help on this matter)
I kept the STOCK roms Nougat 7.1 and Oreo 8 and want to put Nougat 7.1 back on my device , but is proving difficult using ODIN 13.3.1 or any other version of Odin. The result is FAIL, that's using a combination of AP, CSC, CP and BL.
I managed to get Oreo 8 back on it, but want Nougat 7.1 original installed instead.
Can anyone tell me can ADB Fastboot be used to Flash a Stock Rom back on a Samsung Device or is Odin the only method?
I know there are other similar programs like QFIL and Qualcomm that I have used for the Mi Max brand devices.
The device was rooted with Nougat 7.1 originally and I have USB debug set and FRP / OEM lock off also. So there's no problem there.
The last resort (stupidly expensive idea :crying is for me to buy another exact device that has Nougat 7 installed when boxed up!
I don't see how upgrading to Pie 9 and then wanting to go back to the original factory installed rom is a big problem, can anyone explain?
Would a CUSTOM Nougat 7.1 rom work if installed via TWRP ?
I have also come across this COMBINATION Softwarehttps://samsungcombinationfile.com/samsung-sm-t395 that is supposed to allow the downgrading of Android software, but hasn't worked as I had been lead to believe.
https://combinationfirmware.com/combination-samsung-galaxy-tab-active/
Thanks for reading :good:
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Samsung firmwares can not be downgraded. This is due to your bootloader version number. The bootloader version is the 5th number from the right of the firmware being downloaded. You can also check in setting - about phone - software info - baseband version ( 5th number from right). You can also tell bootloader number in download (Odin) mode with a line saying AP SWREV B:? : K? : S?. The B is your bootloader number.
Combination firmware works on the same principle in regards to bootloader numbers.
You can only flash the same or higher bootloaders version numbers.
Custom roms will work as long as the bootloader version number is the same ( or higher ) than what is on you phone.
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Samsung firmwares can not be downgraded. This is due to your bootloader version number. The bootloader version is the 5th number from the right of the firmware being downloaded. You can also check in setting - about phone - software info - baseband version ( 5th number from right). You can also tell bootloader number in download (Odin) mode with a line saying AP SWREV B:? : K? : S?. The B is your bootloader number.
Combination firmware works on the same principle in regards to bootloader numbers.
You can only flash the same or higher bootloaders version numbers.
Custom roms will work as long as the bootloader version number is the same ( or higher ) than what is on you phone.
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RE: spawnlives. Many thanks for clearing that up, I now understand. Like many other people I have been trying to mix and match BL files from different OS variants to try and trick the device into accepting the main Nougat AP file via Odin, but nothing works.
These NEW combination files suggest that it is possible to downgrade the BOOTLOADER files on certain devices. However I downloaded all that was available for my device and tried the lot and found the only ROM that would flash correctly and properly was the latest one with the Binary 4 Bootloader. The rest would not register in Odin due to MD5 binary error messages.
In download mode my device AP SWREV B:4 K:2 S:2. ( So I have binary 4 which was released in January 2019, I believe). and this must have been updated when I updated to OS 9 Pie , using all the AP, CSC , BL and CP files.
So as you say, the answer is either , look for a Nougat 7.1 rom with a BL file that has a BINARY 4 code. Or buy another device that has the original Nougat 7.1 installed, which is silly really. :laugh:
Thanks :good:
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spawnlives said:
RE: spawnlives. Many thanks for clearing that up, I now understand. Like many other people I have been trying to mix and match BL files from different OS variants to try and trick the device into accepting the main Nougat AP file via Odin, but nothing works.
These NEW combination files suggest that it is possible to downgrade the BOOTLOADER files on certain devices. However I downloaded all that was available for my device and tried the lot and found the only ROM that would flash correctly and properly was the latest one with the Binary 4 Bootloader. The rest would not register in Odin due to MD5 binary error messages.
In download mode my device AP SWREV B:4 K:2 S:2. ( So I have binary 4 which was released in January 2019, I believe). and this must have been updated when I updated to OS 9 Pie , using all the AP, CSC , BL and CP files.
So as you say, the answer is either , look for a Nougat 7.1 rom with a BL file that has a BINARY 4 code. Or buy another device that has the original Nougat 7.1 installed, which is silly really. :laugh:
Thanks :good:[/
The best you can do is roll back to Oreo. A new phone running nougat would be the best choice. I don't use custom roms but they all seem to keep up to the latest version. I have not seen one that ( latest version ) that is nougat favoured.
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spawnlives said:
tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
RE: spawnlives. Many thanks for clearing that up, I now understand. Like many other people I have been trying to mix and match BL files from different OS variants to try and trick the device into accepting the main Nougat AP file via Odin, but nothing works.
These NEW combination files suggest that it is possible to downgrade the BOOTLOADER files on certain devices. However I downloaded all that was available for my device and tried the lot and found the only ROM that would flash correctly and properly was the latest one with the Binary 4 Bootloader. The rest would not register in Odin due to MD5 binary error messages.
In download mode my device AP SWREV B:4 K:2 S:2. ( So I have binary 4 which was released in January 2019, I believe). and this must have been updated when I updated to OS 9 Pie , using all the AP, CSC , BL and CP files.
So as you say, the answer is either , look for a Nougat 7.1 rom with a BL file that has a BINARY 4 code. Or buy another device that has the original Nougat 7.1 installed, which is silly really. :laugh:
Thanks :good:[/
The best you can do is roll back to Oreo. A new phone running nougat would be the best choice. I don't use custom roms but they all seem to keep up to the latest version. I have not seen one that ( latest version ) that is nougat favoured.
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RE:spawnlives
Yes having researched the total list of softwares for the SM-T395 device, it seems the BL was updated to 4 on the 2nd roll out of Oreo 8.1. And having checked ALL stock Nougat variants, there was never any release of 7.1 with a bootloader binary 4!
I presume the BL Binary version is the 5 character from the right on the picture. (underlined red) :good:
It would make sense for Samsung to give the end user a choice what software they want, by keeping the BL version the same or giving a choice of BL selections to allow upgrade or downgrade.
Anyway, I rolled back to Oreo 8.1 with the binary 4 BL. And unfortunately there aren't many CUSTOM roms , nor a working TWRP for the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab2.
Thanks again :good:
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tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
tsam19 said:
RE:spawnlives
Yes having researched the total list of softwares for the SM-T395 device, it seems the BL was updated to 4 on the 2nd roll out of Oreo 8.1. And having checked ALL stock Nougat variants, there was never any release of 7.1 with a bootloader binary 4!
I presume the BL Binary version is the 5 character from the right on the picture. (underlined red) :good:
It would make sense for Samsung to give the end user a choice what software they want, by keeping the BL version the same or giving a choice of BL selections to allow upgrade or downgrade.
Anyway, I rolled back to Oreo 8.1 with the binary 4 BL. And unfortunately there aren't many CUSTOM roms , nor a working TWRP for the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab2.
Thanks again :good:
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Yes the bootloader is 5th from the right.
I don't own a tab2. If no work twrp can be found and you want to at least have root try using magisk and used the patch root method.
Also to avoid possible upgrade turn off automatic updates in setting - software update as well as in developer option - auto update system.
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spawnlives said:
tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
Yes the bootloader is 5th from the right.
I don't own a tab2. If no work twrp can be found and you want to at least have root try using magisk and used the patch root method.
Also to avoid possible upgrade turn off automatic updates in setting - software update as well as in developer option - auto update system.
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Have rooted the device no problem with magisk and patching the original boot img file. Then flashing patched boot img via odin. Causing device verification to need to reformat the device, resulting in correct root.
Once a device , this device is rooted, no official updates can be installed anyway. When you try to uodate software, a pop up shows as the device recognises the software has been modified.
As for TWRP there ISN'T any version of TWRP available for the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab2 (SM-T395). I have even emailed the makers , developers of TWRP why there isn't one in their device inventory list on their webpage.
So no TWRP, and NO custom roms either for this model.
My concern , was all about finding a valid , safe way to downgrade back to original Nougat 7.1. And until someone can produce a working image with a BL with binary 4. Then there's only one optiin and that is to buy another untampered device with Nougat 7.1 out of the box and leave it un updated. :good:
Thanks for replying.
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tsam19 said:
Hello all
Been a member here for some time now and have a perplexing issue.
I upgraded a Samsung Device SM T395 to OS Pie 9 and decided I didn't like it. (There are no other posts with help on this matter)
I kept the STOCK roms Nougat 7.1 and Oreo 8 and want to put Nougat 7.1 back on my device , but is proving difficult using ODIN 13.3.1 or any other version of Odin. The result is FAIL, that's using a combination of AP, CSC, CP and BL.
I managed to get Oreo 8 back on it, but want Nougat 7.1 original installed instead.
Can anyone tell me can ADB Fastboot be used to Flash a Stock Rom back on a Samsung Device or is Odin the only method?
I know there are other similar programs like QFIL and Qualcomm that I have used for the Mi Max brand devices.
The device was rooted with Nougat 7.1 originally and I have USB debug set and FRP / OEM lock off also. So there's no problem there.
The last resort (stupidly expensive idea :crying is for me to buy another exact device that has Nougat 7 installed when boxed up!
I don't see how upgrading to Pie 9 and then wanting to go back to the original factory installed rom is a big problem, can anyone explain?
Would a CUSTOM Nougat 7.1 rom work if installed via TWRP ?
I have also come across this COMBINATION Software https://samsungcombinationfile.com/samsung-sm-t395 that is supposed to allow the downgrading of Android software, but hasn't worked as I had been lead to believe.
https://combinationfirmware.com/combination-samsung-galaxy-tab-active/
Thanks for reading :good:
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To answer your question of how is downgrading such a big problem, it is due to security reasons, to keep your device as secure as possible with the newest available software and the latest security updates.
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