[G930F] Is downgrading from 8.0 to 7.0 safe? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

Hello,
I've a SGS7 (G930F) currently running The Galaxy Project (rooted and TWRP too, duh). I want to downgrade to stock 7.0 G930FXXS2DRDI since I'm displeased with overall performance of every 8.0 (both stock and custom) I've encountered so far. Now as I've read some threads regarding this matter I developed some doubts and questions. To be exact - would flashing stock 7.0 over my current rom (custom with 8.0 bootloader and modem) cause my phone to brick or as I've read in other threads cause problems with vibration/camera? If so could I just flash 7.0 AP, CSC and Modem and leave the 8.0 bootloader (seems silly, but I'd rather ask)?
Thank you

If you do the full flash with AP, CSC, CP and BL you shouldn't have any issues. The vibration/camera issues are usually caused by having a BL version that doesn't match your AP.
However the last 7.0 release locked phones from downgrading via Odin, I would have expected this to carry into Oreo

All you need to do is download the latest version of nougat and flash.

Well I flashed an older one - FXXS2DRAA and unfortunately it failed at Odin, after rebooting told me to use emergency option in Smartswitch. Flashed back to 8.0 no problem though.

Hi, put the fone on download again and reflash 8.0, that is all. I maked.

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Flashing more recent stock rom from sammobile

Hi
Apologies for what is quite a basic question for I'm just trying to get things straight in my head before proceeding.
I have a UK retail S7 G930F, current running stock
Build G930FXXU1DQC4
Baseband G930FXXU1DQC2
Despite the fact this build only has Android security patch level February 2017, and the latest build is from 2018, my device and Smart Switch insist I am up to date, I want to actually make this the case while remaining on stock firmware.
I have used Odin to flash Galaxy phones before but not since I had a Note 2 and Note 3 so I'm a little rusty.
I have Odin 3.13.1 and the zip download from sammobile for build G930FXXS2DRAA for the same CSC region I'm currently on which is XEU.
All the guides for Odin flashing say to only use the AP file and option in Odin. However as my BL, CP and CSC will all be older as well, and I'm simply going from stock to stock can I (or should I) also flash these parts as well?
Thanks.
I need more information. 6 mm and 7 nougat use the same BL and require no upgrade where if you were on lollipop somehow you would need the bl. Please DO NOT run off and start flashing things like BL without help from here first. I have bricked a samsung device so bad I had to replace the motherboard, so I learned the hard way.
Both current firmware and the one I intend to flash are Android 7, the new one is just a much more recent build with a more up to date security patch level.
My current firmware, as shipped (or possibly updated OTA a long time ago)
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930F/XEU/download/G930FXXU1DQC4/127501/
My intended firmware that I plan to flash
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930F/XEU/download/G930FXXS2DRAA/205600/
Despite the fact that sammobile says the newer one is available in Smart Switch, it doesn't show any updates when I connect my device to my PC with Smart Switch.
y2kgecko said:
Both current firmware and the one I intend to flash are Android 7, the new one is just a much more recent build with a more up to date security patch level.
My current firmware, as shipped (or possibly updated OTA a long time ago)
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930F/XEU/download/G930FXXU1DQC4/127501/
My intended firmware that I plan to flash
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930F/XEU/download/G930FXXS2DRAA/205600/
Despite the fact that sammobile says the newer one is available in Smart Switch, it doesn't show any updates when I connect my device to my PC with Smart Switch.
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I get that a lot. I upgraded my s7 to latest n release today and it worked ok.
So, do I just flash AP or everything?
y2kgecko said:
So, do I just flash AP or everything?
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You need to flash all 4 files: BL / AP / CP / CSC
I do recommend that you flash CSC* and not HOME_CSC*. That way you will reset the phone to factory defaults and it will be ready for future OTA updates.
Backup your files first that you think are important and then start from scratch to configure the phone, install your apps, update the ones on the phone.

Manually updating to Oreo

Hi.
I have a G955U Galaxy S8+ AT&T Factory Unlocked on Android 7.0
Baseband Version: G955USQU1AQD9
Android Security Patch Level - April 1, 2017
I no longer live in the US, and currently in the Philippines. Phone works great and the signal is too and all, but I cannot get OTA updates.
Can I just download the firmware file in this thread and flash straight through ODIN, or do I need to follow another guide?
Thanks in advance
You can, however there are specific sequences to follow, so you have to update in firmware released order.
I encountered the same problem so I downloaded odin that worked for Nougat and loaded all version to BRB1 I think it is and then went to Oreo. Currently on CRC5.
Another note, when you are about to hit Oreo you will need to download the odin that works for Oreo. It can be found in the CRC5 thread.
Happy Updating
onedonrazor said:
You can, however there are specific sequences to follow, so you have to update in firmware released order.
I encountered the same problem so I downloaded odin that worked for Nougat and loaded all version to BRB1 I think it is and then went to Oreo. Currently on CRC5.
Another note, when you are about to hit Oreo you will need to download the odin that works for Oreo. It can be found in the CRC5 thread.
Happy Updating
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Is this really necessary?
I want to update to Oreo as well but since I'm AT&T unlocked and not currently using AT&T network I'm stuck in the June software update so I'll have to flash like 7-8 firmware updates and each one being about 2-3 GB to download.
Also, is there any stock Samsung firmware I can download so I can avoid having to manually flash every software update? Or am I just stuck with the AT&T firmware?
Thanks in advance.
I'm also having this problem. Need to flash the updates through ODIN but I can't find every single stock file leading up to BR9 on this site. Do I really have flash them all? Or is there another way?

Trouble Flashing Samsung S7 to Android 7.0

Hey so.. Phone's root bugged out yesterday and I downloaded twrp and decided I should upgrade it to Android 8.0 then root it. After many hours of failures I managed to flash a 8.0 but I couldn't make the CSC to work, since my phone is region locked to another country so I decided to go back to 7.0 and try again.. but now here it gets complicated because I really don't know what to do. I'm not sure how exactly to go back from 8.0 to 7.0.. Can someone give me detailed steps on what should I do.. I'd be very grateful!
PS. I don't know if I'm posting this in the right forum thread.
Here https://updato.com/how-to/how-to-install-an-official-samsung-stock-firmware-using-odin
Same site, or sammobile can be used to get the firmware files to flash with Odin
Note: The last version of 7.0 locked the ability to downgrade, I haven't gone to Oreo so can't confirm, but it ability to downgrade may also be removed from Oreo.
Beanvee7 said:
Here https://updato.com/how-to/how-to-install-an-official-samsung-stock-firmware-using-odin
Same site, or sammobile can be used to get the firmware files to flash with Odin
Note: The last version of 7.0 locked the ability to downgrade, I haven't gone to Oreo so can't confirm, but it ability to downgrade may also be removed from Oreo.
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I can confirm, downgrading from Oreo 8.0 to Nougat 7.0 is possible, even without tripping knox.
It's just flashing the previous firmware with odin and factory reset the phone before first run and you're fine to go

[N915FY] About downgrading…

Hello,
I would like to downgrade a Galaxy Note Edge (N915FY) to Android Kitkat but I haven't done it in a few years. I wanted to make sure I understood everything before I made any mistakes. I saw on differents topics on XDA that Samsung was preventing to downgrade on their devices since android 5.0.1.
In this case :
Is reinstalling the bootloader of an Kitkat firmware with Odin is enough to reinstall an stock android 4.4 firmware after ?
Did you know where I can find an Android 4.4 bootloader for N915FY (can I extract it from the stock firmware) ?
Did I need to do and tick "Re-Partition" on Odin ?
If I do a re-partition, what PIT file should I use (see on sammobile.com) ? (TBLTE_EUR_OPENBTU_HIDDEN100M.pit or TBLTE_EUR_OPENBTU.pit)
What is the difference between SM-N915FY and SM-N915F, I understand that one was for the European market and the other for the international market (bootloader?, partition?, LTE frequency?) ?
Do any of you have a Kitkat full stock firmware (BL, AP, CP, CSC) region XEF ? I can't find any on Internet, all the links are dead.
Thanks a lot for your help
Feel free to answer me even if you only have part of the answer !
trucmuchebidule abc said:
Hello,
I would like to downgrade a Galaxy Note Edge (N915FY) to Android Kitkat but I haven't done it in a few years. I wanted to make sure I understood everything before I made any mistakes. I saw on differents topics on XDA that Samsung was preventing to downgrade on their devices since android 5.0.1.
In this case :
Is reinstalling the bootloader of an Kitkat firmware with Odin is enough to reinstall an stock android 4.4 firmware after ?
Did you know where I can find an Android 4.4 bootloader for N915FY (can I extract it from the stock firmware) ?
Did I need to do and tick "Re-Partition" on Odin ?
If I do a re-partition, what PIT file should I use (see on sammobile.com) ? (TBLTE_EUR_OPENBTU_HIDDEN100M.pit or TBLTE_EUR_OPENBTU.pit)
What is the difference between SM-N915FY and SM-N915F, I understand that one was for the European market and the other for the international market (bootloader?, partition?, LTE frequency?) ?
Do any of you have a Kitkat full stock firmware (BL, AP, CP, CSC) region XEF ? I can't find any on Internet, all the links are dead.
Thanks a lot for your help
Feel free to answer me even if you only have part of the answer !
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I don't think is good idea downgrading to KK, i have try it myself flashing with odin and rooting and oll that but then KK was crashing often as it look like the phone is dying, then i have to flash LP and MM to get reed of that crashes every few minutes.
Here are all the updates for note edge. http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N915FY flash with odin in download mode.
Alboooz said:
I don't think is good idea downgrading to KK, i have try it myself flashing with odin and rooting and oll that but then KK was crashing often as it look like the phone is dying, then i have to flash LP and MM to get reed of that crashes every few minutes.
Here are all the updates for note edge. http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N915FY flash with odin in download mode.
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Hello,
Thanks for your answer, I finally left the phone with the latest version of marshmallow available. What surprises me is that I only saw positive opinions on the kitkat version, since the phone works pretty well so I thought it wasn't worth the risk of downgrading.
Maybe the bugs you had come from a problem with the memory chip in your note 4, I have the impression that this often happens after a few years.
Edit: Oh! And did you have to dowgrade you bootloader before install kitkat ? I also tried to install kitkat on a defective note 4 motherboard and I had a lot of bug, but it was without repartion and with a one file firmware (I did'nt find any 4 files/repair firmware for the n915fy with android 4.4). Also an important part of link of firmware listed on samsung-update for kitkat are dead.

[Resolved] #Solved# Any Possible Solution to Downgrade Back to Nougat?

Hello all
Been a member here for some time now and have a perplexing issue.
I upgraded a Samsung Device SM T395 to OS Pie 9 and decided I didn't like it. (There are no other posts with help on this matter)
I kept the STOCK roms Nougat 7.1 and Oreo 8 and want to put Nougat 7.1 back on my device , but is proving difficult using ODIN 13.3.1 or any other version of Odin. The result is FAIL, that's using a combination of AP, CSC, CP and BL.
I managed to get Oreo 8 back on it, but want Nougat 7.1 original installed instead.
Can anyone tell me can ADB Fastboot be used to Flash a Stock Rom back on a Samsung Device or is Odin the only method?
I know there are other similar programs like QFIL and Qualcomm that I have used for the Mi Max brand devices.
The device was rooted with Nougat 7.1 originally and I have USB debug set and FRP / OEM lock off also. So there's no problem there.
The last resort (stupidly expensive idea :crying is for me to buy another exact device that has Nougat 7 installed when boxed up!
I don't see how upgrading to Pie 9 and then wanting to go back to the original factory installed rom is a big problem, can anyone explain?
Would a CUSTOM Nougat 7.1 rom work if installed via TWRP ?
I have also come across this COMBINATION Software https://samsungcombinationfile.com/samsung-sm-t395 that is supposed to allow the downgrading of Android software, but hasn't worked as I had been lead to believe.
https://combinationfirmware.com/combination-samsung-galaxy-tab-active/
Thanks for reading :good:
tsam19 said:
Hello all
Been a member here for some time now and have a perplexing issue.
I upgraded a Samsung Device SM T395 to OS Pie 9 and decided I didn't like it. (There are no other posts with help on this matter)
I kept the STOCK roms Nougat 7.1 and Oreo 8 and want to put Nougat 7.1 back on my device , but is proving difficult using ODIN 13.3.1 or any other version of Odin. The result is FAIL, that's using a combination of AP, CSC, CP and BL.
I managed to get Oreo 8 back on it, but want Nougat 7.1 original installed instead.
Can anyone tell me can ADB Fastboot be used to Flash a Stock Rom back on a Samsung Device or is Odin the only method?
I know there are other similar programs like QFIL and Qualcomm that I have used for the Mi Max brand devices.
The device was rooted with Nougat 7.1 originally and I have USB debug set and FRP / OEM lock off also. So there's no problem there.
The last resort (stupidly expensive idea :crying is for me to buy another exact device that has Nougat 7 installed when boxed up!
I don't see how upgrading to Pie 9 and then wanting to go back to the original factory installed rom is a big problem, can anyone explain?
Would a CUSTOM Nougat 7.1 rom work if installed via TWRP ?
I have also come across this COMBINATION Softwarehttps://samsungcombinationfile.com/samsung-sm-t395 that is supposed to allow the downgrading of Android software, but hasn't worked as I had been lead to believe.
https://combinationfirmware.com/combination-samsung-galaxy-tab-active/
Thanks for reading :good:
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Samsung firmwares can not be downgraded. This is due to your bootloader version number. The bootloader version is the 5th number from the right of the firmware being downloaded. You can also check in setting - about phone - software info - baseband version ( 5th number from right). You can also tell bootloader number in download (Odin) mode with a line saying AP SWREV B:? : K? : S?. The B is your bootloader number.
Combination firmware works on the same principle in regards to bootloader numbers.
You can only flash the same or higher bootloaders version numbers.
Custom roms will work as long as the bootloader version number is the same ( or higher ) than what is on you phone.
spawnlives said:
Samsung firmwares can not be downgraded. This is due to your bootloader version number. The bootloader version is the 5th number from the right of the firmware being downloaded. You can also check in setting - about phone - software info - baseband version ( 5th number from right). You can also tell bootloader number in download (Odin) mode with a line saying AP SWREV B:? : K? : S?. The B is your bootloader number.
Combination firmware works on the same principle in regards to bootloader numbers.
You can only flash the same or higher bootloaders version numbers.
Custom roms will work as long as the bootloader version number is the same ( or higher ) than what is on you phone.
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RE: spawnlives. Many thanks for clearing that up, I now understand. Like many other people I have been trying to mix and match BL files from different OS variants to try and trick the device into accepting the main Nougat AP file via Odin, but nothing works.
These NEW combination files suggest that it is possible to downgrade the BOOTLOADER files on certain devices. However I downloaded all that was available for my device and tried the lot and found the only ROM that would flash correctly and properly was the latest one with the Binary 4 Bootloader. The rest would not register in Odin due to MD5 binary error messages.
In download mode my device AP SWREV B:4 K:2 S:2. ( So I have binary 4 which was released in January 2019, I believe). and this must have been updated when I updated to OS 9 Pie , using all the AP, CSC , BL and CP files.
So as you say, the answer is either , look for a Nougat 7.1 rom with a BL file that has a BINARY 4 code. Or buy another device that has the original Nougat 7.1 installed, which is silly really. :laugh:
Thanks :good:
tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
RE: spawnlives. Many thanks for clearing that up, I now understand. Like many other people I have been trying to mix and match BL files from different OS variants to try and trick the device into accepting the main Nougat AP file via Odin, but nothing works.
These NEW combination files suggest that it is possible to downgrade the BOOTLOADER files on certain devices. However I downloaded all that was available for my device and tried the lot and found the only ROM that would flash correctly and properly was the latest one with the Binary 4 Bootloader. The rest would not register in Odin due to MD5 binary error messages.
In download mode my device AP SWREV B:4 K:2 S:2. ( So I have binary 4 which was released in January 2019, I believe). and this must have been updated when I updated to OS 9 Pie , using all the AP, CSC , BL and CP files.
So as you say, the answer is either , look for a Nougat 7.1 rom with a BL file that has a BINARY 4 code. Or buy another device that has the original Nougat 7.1 installed, which is silly really. :laugh:
Thanks :good:[/
The best you can do is roll back to Oreo. A new phone running nougat would be the best choice. I don't use custom roms but they all seem to keep up to the latest version. I have not seen one that ( latest version ) that is nougat favoured.
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spawnlives said:
tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
RE: spawnlives. Many thanks for clearing that up, I now understand. Like many other people I have been trying to mix and match BL files from different OS variants to try and trick the device into accepting the main Nougat AP file via Odin, but nothing works.
These NEW combination files suggest that it is possible to downgrade the BOOTLOADER files on certain devices. However I downloaded all that was available for my device and tried the lot and found the only ROM that would flash correctly and properly was the latest one with the Binary 4 Bootloader. The rest would not register in Odin due to MD5 binary error messages.
In download mode my device AP SWREV B:4 K:2 S:2. ( So I have binary 4 which was released in January 2019, I believe). and this must have been updated when I updated to OS 9 Pie , using all the AP, CSC , BL and CP files.
So as you say, the answer is either , look for a Nougat 7.1 rom with a BL file that has a BINARY 4 code. Or buy another device that has the original Nougat 7.1 installed, which is silly really. :laugh:
Thanks :good:[/
The best you can do is roll back to Oreo. A new phone running nougat would be the best choice. I don't use custom roms but they all seem to keep up to the latest version. I have not seen one that ( latest version ) that is nougat favoured.
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RE:spawnlives
Yes having researched the total list of softwares for the SM-T395 device, it seems the BL was updated to 4 on the 2nd roll out of Oreo 8.1. And having checked ALL stock Nougat variants, there was never any release of 7.1 with a bootloader binary 4!
I presume the BL Binary version is the 5 character from the right on the picture. (underlined red) :good:
It would make sense for Samsung to give the end user a choice what software they want, by keeping the BL version the same or giving a choice of BL selections to allow upgrade or downgrade.
Anyway, I rolled back to Oreo 8.1 with the binary 4 BL. And unfortunately there aren't many CUSTOM roms , nor a working TWRP for the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab2.
Thanks again :good:
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tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
tsam19 said:
RE:spawnlives
Yes having researched the total list of softwares for the SM-T395 device, it seems the BL was updated to 4 on the 2nd roll out of Oreo 8.1. And having checked ALL stock Nougat variants, there was never any release of 7.1 with a bootloader binary 4!
I presume the BL Binary version is the 5 character from the right on the picture. (underlined red) :good:
It would make sense for Samsung to give the end user a choice what software they want, by keeping the BL version the same or giving a choice of BL selections to allow upgrade or downgrade.
Anyway, I rolled back to Oreo 8.1 with the binary 4 BL. And unfortunately there aren't many CUSTOM roms , nor a working TWRP for the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab2.
Thanks again :good:
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Yes the bootloader is 5th from the right.
I don't own a tab2. If no work twrp can be found and you want to at least have root try using magisk and used the patch root method.
Also to avoid possible upgrade turn off automatic updates in setting - software update as well as in developer option - auto update system.
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spawnlives said:
tsam19 said:
spawnlives said:
Yes the bootloader is 5th from the right.
I don't own a tab2. If no work twrp can be found and you want to at least have root try using magisk and used the patch root method.
Also to avoid possible upgrade turn off automatic updates in setting - software update as well as in developer option - auto update system.
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Have rooted the device no problem with magisk and patching the original boot img file. Then flashing patched boot img via odin. Causing device verification to need to reformat the device, resulting in correct root.
Once a device , this device is rooted, no official updates can be installed anyway. When you try to uodate software, a pop up shows as the device recognises the software has been modified.
As for TWRP there ISN'T any version of TWRP available for the Samsung Galaxy Active Tab2 (SM-T395). I have even emailed the makers , developers of TWRP why there isn't one in their device inventory list on their webpage.
So no TWRP, and NO custom roms either for this model.
My concern , was all about finding a valid , safe way to downgrade back to original Nougat 7.1. And until someone can produce a working image with a BL with binary 4. Then there's only one optiin and that is to buy another untampered device with Nougat 7.1 out of the box and leave it un updated. :good:
Thanks for replying.
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tsam19 said:
Hello all
Been a member here for some time now and have a perplexing issue.
I upgraded a Samsung Device SM T395 to OS Pie 9 and decided I didn't like it. (There are no other posts with help on this matter)
I kept the STOCK roms Nougat 7.1 and Oreo 8 and want to put Nougat 7.1 back on my device , but is proving difficult using ODIN 13.3.1 or any other version of Odin. The result is FAIL, that's using a combination of AP, CSC, CP and BL.
I managed to get Oreo 8 back on it, but want Nougat 7.1 original installed instead.
Can anyone tell me can ADB Fastboot be used to Flash a Stock Rom back on a Samsung Device or is Odin the only method?
I know there are other similar programs like QFIL and Qualcomm that I have used for the Mi Max brand devices.
The device was rooted with Nougat 7.1 originally and I have USB debug set and FRP / OEM lock off also. So there's no problem there.
The last resort (stupidly expensive idea :crying is for me to buy another exact device that has Nougat 7 installed when boxed up!
I don't see how upgrading to Pie 9 and then wanting to go back to the original factory installed rom is a big problem, can anyone explain?
Would a CUSTOM Nougat 7.1 rom work if installed via TWRP ?
I have also come across this COMBINATION Software https://samsungcombinationfile.com/samsung-sm-t395 that is supposed to allow the downgrading of Android software, but hasn't worked as I had been lead to believe.
https://combinationfirmware.com/combination-samsung-galaxy-tab-active/
Thanks for reading :good:
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To answer your question of how is downgrading such a big problem, it is due to security reasons, to keep your device as secure as possible with the newest available software and the latest security updates.
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