I am currently in Levant Maine visiting my wife's family. I was so excited because I thought I could finally test T-Mobiles 600mhz spectrum! Though I have not noticed any better service through out our travels and in some cases worse than my wife who has a iPhone 7. T-Mobile shows there is customer verified band 71 coverage where I am, yet I have zero service... what gives? I there something I need to do to activate it? (might sound stupid but I'm desperate!)
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I am currently in Levant Maine visiting my wife's family. I was so excited because I thought I could finally test T-Mobiles 600mhz spectrum! Though I have not noticed any better service through out our travels and in some cases worse than my wife who has a iPhone 7. T-Mobile shows there is customer verified band 71 coverage where I am, yet I have zero service... what gives? I there something I need to do to activate it? (might sound stupid but I'm desperate!)
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A quick Google search reveals that this band is kinda shiiite
https://www.pcmag.com/news/361295/heres-where-you-need-a-band-71-phone-to-boost-t-mobile-cove
Sorry don't see how that link makes the band out to be ****... it has not been fully rolled out and visit far from it's full potential. There have been lots of users who verified drastic changes in coverage in the areas they have added the the 600mhz spectrum.
Also, my question is in regards to whether or not there is something I need to do to utilize the new band on a OnePlus 6, as I am not seeing any service in an are that has been verified by several T-Mobile customers to be fully covered by the 600mhz network. But thanks for your input?
There is nothing you need to do to utilize it, Take a look at t-mobile's service area map to be sure it's exactly in your area. I assumed it was in my are but I found it is actually only in more rural areas of my state.
How are you checking if you are using band 71? I recommend an app called LTE Discovery.
Also I think you are expecting too much from it. Band 71 will increase coverage and building penetration, But you shouldn't expect big jumps in speed unless you are in area where your service is marginal without it.
I don't really care about speed at this point . It's just that I'm sitting right on top of areas confirmed by customer to be covered by it, but I have absolutely no service at all. Also based on the T-Mobile map this area should be well blanketed by 600 mhz... I doubt their map is 100% accurate but ive got nothing at all..
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I don't really care about speed at this point . It's just that I'm sitting right on top of areas confirmed by customer to be covered by it, but I have absolutely no service at all. Also based on the T-Mobile map this area should be well blanketed by 600 mhz... I doubt their map is 100% accurate but ive got nothing at all..
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Perhaps Network Cell Info from the Play Store will give you some idea of the signals in your area. I use it frequently on my OP6 and used it often on my N6 and N6p in the past to get an idea of signals/sites. There is a free version and an inexpensive paid version.
edit: Root is not required.
So if you have zero service, and not just unable to use band 71 then I would say check you apn settings.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
If everything matches and still no service I would go to t-mobile location and get a new SIM.
Again this is all of you have NO service and not just trying to force band 71.
As t-mobile doesn't directly support Oneplus devices and claim Oneplus is difficult to work with, will offer very little help to you regarding getting band 71 over whatever band is prevalent in the area
I have Mint Mobile, which is a T-Mobile MVNO, and I can access band 71 in southeast Maine. Check Cellmapper to make sure that band 71 is actually live and it's not just an error on T-Mobile's coverage map. I've realized that band 71 isn't really that much better than band 2 from a coverage perspective, as I monitor my signal and once I switch from very weak band 2 to band 71, the signal just drops out seconds later. A lot of the areas that claim to be covered by band 71 on their map I get 0 signal in.
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Hi, I have an HTC Sensation. I live in Cleveland, OH, and went with a friend about 70 miles east towards Warren OH, mainly on Rt 422. He has Revol, which I assume is like Cricket, he had reception all the way. My service completely dropped about 15 miles east of Cleveland (South Russell - rural after that), with an X instead of any bars, till I got back about only 15 miles away again. I did get 1 bar off and on at Mosquito Lake where our cookout was, but only when right near the water, otherwise an X. I just looked up on T-Mo's website, and I should have had at least "good" to "moderate" service that whole trip. I just noticed under (Android) "Network Mode", my phone was set to "WCDMA Only". I thought this only affected data. Does this also affect voice range? I tried Googling, but couldn't really find an answer, except some sites saying WCDMA is better for rural areas, not what I really wanted to hear, given no rural reception on my phone. My other two choices are GSM Only, and GSM/WCDMA Auto, which I checked now. I don't know when I'll be out that way again, but that kind of worries me, as I just signed a new 2 year contract with T-Mo (for buying the Sensation), and I may be going out that way more, and have no service. Thanks.
WCDMA most certainly relates to voice as well as data. The only places I'd leave it on WCDMA only are metro areas and places where T-Mobile has indicated strong 4G/HSPA coverage, else always leave it on GSM/WCDMA auto or you'll be sorely lacking on reception.
T-Mobile uses WCDMA bands 1700/2100Mhz AWS for their 4G/HSPA, voice and data are combined regardless if you're on HSPA or GSM.
GSM bands are also much stronger and more effective at penetrating buildings and foliage. T-Mobile uses 850Mhz and 1900Mhz for GSM, also know as EDGE in data terms. This also means that if you happen upon an area where T-Mobile has a roaming agreement with At&t, you'll be able to get reception in those areas as well (e.g. T-Mobile has no coverage but At&t does, note this only applies in certain areas where AT&T has an agreement with T-Mobile)
EDGE/GSM is a 2G signal, so data speeds will be significantly slower in those areas. When you leave your device on GSM/WCDMA auto, it will select the optimal signal based in your location and reception quality and you'll see it change from 'H' or '4G' to 'E' often on your device.
This is normal, T-Mobile isn't going to invest HSPA in non-metropolitan areas.
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Thank you, TheMan42, I know now to keep it at the auto setting, as I only thought it affected data.
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Is there anywway to do this? I am right on the edge of 3g and LTE service and it keeps bouncing back and forth. I dont think you can, but thought I would check with you guys as well.
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Is there anywway to do this? I am right on the edge of 3g and LTE service and it keeps bouncing back and forth. I dont think you can, but thought I would check with you guys as well.
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try dialing *#*#4636#*#* and click phone info and set mode to lte only
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try dialing *#*#4636#*#* and click phone info and set mode to lte only
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does this code still work or did they switch to a new one with jellybean?
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does this code still work or did they switch to a new one with jellybean?
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The code should still work. Its a general testing code for most, if not all, android phones. The settings may vary.
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The code should still work. Its a general testing code for most, if not all, android phones. The settings may vary.
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I verified that it works still... forcing LTE though, not so much.
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I verified that it works still... forcing LTE though, not so much.
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If your phone doesn't connect to LTE by simply cycling through Airplane mode, don't expect forcing LTE mode to connect either. All Force LTE does is disable every connection except LTE ones.
If you live in fringe LTE coverage, and your phone bounces back and forth, your best bet is to disable LTE for the time being.
Source: The office I work in was in the same situation a couple months ago. All of us with Sprint LTE phones learned the hard way that this is the solution.
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If you live in fringe LTE coverage, and your phone bounces back and forth, your best bet is to disable LTE for the time being.
Source: The office I work in was in the same situation a couple months ago. All of us with Sprint LTE phones learned the hard way that this is the solution.
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You could buy a signal booster? They work really well in doors. Sprints 1900mhz LTE has trouble penetrating buildings but it gets good area and distance coverage. In a few years when they roll out the 800mhz LTE they will get building penetration as well.
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You could buy a signal booster? They work really well in doors. Sprints 1900mhz LTE has trouble penetrating buildings but it gets good area and distance coverage. In a few years when they roll out the 800mhz LTE they will get building penetration as well.
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I would not recommend buying a signal booster. The reason people are in the edge of an LTE signal is because a tower further away has been upgraded, whereas the closer 3G tower doesn't have upgrades. Hence, you connect to 1x Voice to the closer tower, but LTE on the one further away. I would just wait it out. eventually you will get LTE when your closest tower is upgraded.
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If you live in fringe LTE coverage, and your phone bounces back and forth, your best bet is to disable LTE for the time being.
Source: The office I work in was in the same situation a couple months ago. All of us with Sprint LTE phones learned the hard way that this is the solution.
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I would not recommend buying a signal booster. The reason people are in the edge of an LTE signal is because a tower further away has been upgraded, whereas the closer 3G tower doesn't have upgrades. Hence, you connect to 1x Voice to the closer tower, but LTE on the one further away. I would just wait it out. eventually you will get LTE when your closest tower is upgraded.
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I don't think you know what you're talking about. I have seen signal boosters used on log cabins deep in the mountains and gain full bars of 4g LTE service when there is no service whatsoever available outside of the booster zone. They work. Period. Just not the cheap models. Here - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NQ2GSW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3SPLR0MSOYZ8O
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I don't think you know what you're talking about. I have seen signal boosters used on log cabins deep in the mountains and gain full bars of 4g LTE service when there is no service whatsoever available outside of the booster zone. They work. Period. Just not the cheap models. Here - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NQ2GSW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3SPLR0MSOYZ8O
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I never said that signal boosters don't work. But the cost of them is not worth it. Paying $350 for a booster, just why? I could see it being worth it in a rural area when Sprint doesn't have many towers and no intention to build more, but in an urban area it is pointless. I was to understand that the OP didn't have 4G service at his workplace, or did but it was pulling in 0 to 1 bars (over -100 dBm). But, at his workplace, he has perfect 3G signal because there is a tower closer that doesn't have 4G service yet. So why buy a booster, spending $350 on something that will fix itself in the coming months.
Point of the story, if you have great 3G signal where you are, DO NOT BUY A BOOSTER. You will get 4G eventually. If you do not have great 3G signal, don't expect to get great 4G signal either. If you don't have great 3G signal in a rural area, the booster will help.
Another thing to note, if you live in an area right between two towers, or at the edge of signal. It may be worth giving a call to Sprint and saying you don't have service in your home. They may send you an Airave. This thing works basically by using your home internet connection to create a router for Sprint phones. The phones will use the "router" for voice and texting, and data as well. It essentially gives you a small tower in your home. The catch on this is that prior to Softbank's purchase of Sprint, Sprint sent these things out to anyone. Calling and complaining to Sprint about poor coverage would yield them sending you an Airave. Now, you must pay $200 for this device of you have between 1 and 3 lines. If, however, you have 4 lines on the Sprint account, you may get it for free.
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I never said that signal boosters don't work. But the cost of them is not worth it. Paying $350 for a booster, just why? I could see it being worth it in a rural area when Sprint doesn't have many towers and no intention to build more, but in an urban area it is pointless. I was to understand that the OP didn't have 4G service at his workplace, or did but it was pulling in 0 to 1 bars (over -100 dBm). But, at his workplace, he has perfect 3G signal because there is a tower closer that doesn't have 4G service yet. So why buy a booster, spending $350 on something that will fix itself in the coming months.
Point of the story, if you have great 3G signal where you are, DO NOT BUY A BOOSTER. You will get 4G eventually. If you do not have great 3G signal, don't expect to get great 4G signal either. If you don't have great 3G signal in a rural area, the booster will help.
Another thing to note, if you live in an area right between two towers, or at the edge of signal. It may be worth giving a call to Sprint and saying you don't have service in your home. They may send you an Airave. This thing works basically by using your home internet connection to create a router for Sprint phones. The phones will use the "router" for voice and texting, and data as well. It essentially gives you a small tower in your home. The catch on this is that prior to Softbank's purchase of Sprint, Sprint sent these things out to anyone. Calling and complaining to Sprint about poor coverage would yield them sending you an Airave. Now, you must pay $200 for this device of you have between 1 and 3 lines. If, however, you have 4 lines on the Sprint account, you may get it for free.
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Heres the thing - Even with good coverage outside, 4G LTE on 1900 mhz spectrum has difficulty penetrating buildings. Doesnt matter the towers. 800 mhz spectrum is only in its infancy and 800 mhz will never be compatible with our current phone model of choice the MPQ with a slide out keyboard.
For less than the price of a new phone you can boost your signal to receive the 1900 mhz LTE indoors. I'm not getting a new phone unless it has a slide out keyboard and it looks like thats not happening any time soon. So for someone who wants LTE on the MPQ indoors, a signal booster is highly economical. Not to mention for consumers that cut the cable and internet bills and use mobile broadband hotspots for all their home entertainment needs. That one booster can save you the $150 month cable/internet bill for perpetuity. It pays for itself in 3 months.
In short- 4G LTE is here but its building penetration is disappointing and to get on the 800mhz band you need to buy new hardware (phone) anyways at an undetermined future date.
Sprint Sucks!!!
Just saying.
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does this code still work or did they switch to a new one with jellybean?
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Still works on my nexus 5
So i was on sprint chat and i asked the rep of my area had the new sprint lte plus service. She told me yea but for some reason im only getting 4 mbps. Any idea in how to make it faster?
You should get signal check to see what bands are you getting. B25 and b26 are slow usually. B41 and B41x2 is the good stuff. ##33284# on the phone dialer and go to lte engineering. It'll tell you the band, signal width, and primary and secondary download carrier I'd applicable. Good luck. Last speed test was 124mb from a carrier aggregation tower
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You should get signal check to see what bands are you getting. B25 and b26 are slow usually. B41 and B41x2 is the good stuff. ##33284# on the phone dialer and go to lte engineering. It'll tell you the band, signal width, and primary and secondary download carrier I'd applicable. Good luck. Last speed test was 124mb from a carrier aggregation tower
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Is this good or no?
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1. Simply because your phone shows LTE does not always mean the speed will increase dramatically. What you are seeing is Sprint's 1900mhz band. From those you can expect speeds of 3-6mbps and a high max of 25mbps (You will likely not see this at any point.) Last I remember range was around 2-3 miles on the tower, a GMO site will cut range down a bit. Where I live everyone was excited about 4g however we have the same speeds as you are seeing. No real increase and causing other issues. On the flip side you still may see 800mhz depending on where you live, but it is not a guarantee.
2. Honestly do not go by what Customer Service reps say. Reps would tell my customers we had 4g in Erie Pa for the last year. It was not turned on until March 1st 2016. I have had people scream, kick, yell, throw phones, you name it because customer service told them so. Sitting behind a PC in India or Texas and working in the actual area have distinct differences.
Many smaller areas will likely not go LTE Plus anytime in the near future, larger metro areas will go Plus and others will likely stay in the normal LTE range for now.
Yea i figured that
The OnePlus 6 has band 71 which is T-Mobile's new band. I read that the future 6T will have a version sold through T-Mobile that is"optimized for TMobile." I'm curious what is meant by optimized for TMobile. Any thoughts?
I'm very interested in this, but I've never owned a one plus device. One question that I have for one plus owners is how fast does one plus update their os to the newest android version? I know you can have P beta on the 6 which is really quick. Has it always been like this? And do you think since this phone will be on tmobile, would that make the update slower then the global version?
All it means is t-mobile will tweak the modem. And as for band 71 unless you are in a rural area don't expect much from it. It won't give you amazing speed it willl allow for better signal in buildings and other areas that cause signal difficulties.
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All it means is t-mobile will tweak the modem. And as for band 71 unless you are in a rural area don't expect much from it. It won't give you amazing speed it willl allow for better signal in buildings and other areas that cause signal difficulties.
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Well, I don't live in a rural area, but I did start working in a rural area, and my tmobile sucks, but I did notice there's some tmobile network that I can't access. I'm only allowed to be in their partners network. I wonder if that tmobile network is band 71. I currently have a s7 edge. Is there anyway to find out if that's really band 71?
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Well, I don't live in a rural area, but I did start working in a rural area, and my tmobile sucks, but I did notice there's some tmobile network that I can't access. I'm only allowed to be in their partners network. I wonder if that tmobile network is band 71. I currently have a s7 edge. Is there anyway to find out if that's really band 71?
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It's possible that it is, but since you can't connect only way to check is t-mobiles map or call them and ask if it's in the area they won't mind, but may be in hold a while.
The OP6 will connect to 71, I have when passing thru area that had it.
And main reason it's rural areas right now is that's where they've been able to get the tvv stains to clear the bandwidth first and where it's most needed.
Should start to see it Lot more in bigger cities next year. T-Mobile working with them to speed it up
I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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I am getting very close speed to the LTE in upstate NY. Not sure if it is really 5G
Here is a screenshot with some of my results between LTE, 5G and WiFi
Here it is sorry
RobTegland said:
I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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Just got my OnePlus 8 Friday In Peoria just outside Phoenix and most of our cities are 5g tmo ready and getting the same have not had one test where 5g works faster then 4g..
I dont think it has anything to do with T mobile having its headquarters in Washington...
I think it was more John Legre blowing typical marketing smoke and some of us fell for it!
With full bars for me, I get 80+ mbps on 4G LTE and around 110 mbps with 5G. I live in Akron, Ohio. From what I've read, the (600 MHz sub-6) 5G that T-Mobile offers is more about coverage than it is speeds. mmWave is more for speed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/best-carriers-5g?amp
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With full bars for me, I get 80+ mbps on 4G LTE and around 110 mbps with 5G. I live in Akron, Ohio. From what I've read, the (600 MHz sub-6) 5G that T-Mobile offers is more about coverage than it is speeds. mmWave is more for speed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/best-carriers-5g?amp
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I live in Boise Idaho and just got the OnePlus 8 yesterday. I ran speed tests on my OnePlus and the 5G seems to be anywhere between 30mbps-60mbps faster than my 4g LTE is ?* Don't pay attention to the first test. That was on the outskirts of my town and I only had barely any service, just wanted to test it to see with basically no service how fast it could go.
I work at a Tmobile store so I think I can help a bit but I’m not speaking for the company. So your phone is working fine Tmobile has 3 layers of 5G: Low band , Midband, And High band. Right now the current 5G that is available across the country is low band the speeds are slower but you have much better coverage, with the sprint merger they will next be rolling out the midband which will give you better speeds but not as great of coverage as the low band. Then they will roll out the high band which will be super fast but not very reliable (Verizon uses only high band and the signal can be easily blocked) right now in NYC they have working on all 3 layers at once and eventually that will expand. The benefit of being on the 5G network right now is that it separated from the LTE users so there is a lot less congestion.
I'm in Philadelphia, PA and my 5G seems way slower than any 4G ever was.
Also close, just north of Seattle. I'm on ATT MVNO Consumer Cellular now as their LTE speeds are better than T-Mobile around here.
I tried a Mint Mobile 250MB trial SIM and drove around testing. I was connecting to normal LTE bands (2, 4, 12, 66,.. Couldn't connect to tasty 71) running 5G protocol. I ran through the data quickly but speeds seemed to be on par with T-Mobile LTE. Cell speeds around here have always been pretty congested.
I can't get Consumer Cellular to connect to ATT 5G with ANY combination of settings but that could be maybe OP8 IMEI must be whitelisted with ATT (thought they just did that) or Consumer Cellular doesn't allow 5G even though an old site page says they will.
In the pic the 5G one is the only T-Mobile test I actually ran outside the Google speed test page. Red icon is using single connection (more realistic) and green is multi connection.
For now I guess ATT LTE still faster.
Also what is 5G Smart Switching (or whatever) in settings page?
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Sorry, just saw this. Been hella busy working on the house while the government recharges all the birds. ? When I get to an area where I live that has all bars, I'll post the speeds on 5G and 4G for you. My buddy just switched from Sprint to AT&T (iPhone 11 Pro Max) and he hit 186Mbps. Irrelevant but just still BS.
We are just changing the protocol using existing radio bands. Near 200 Mbps is the speed of my Comcast WAN. Outside very large single file downloads what would you need higher for? Not scrapin' just curious.
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Having high download/upload speeds are nice especially if you stream games with your phone like I do. Regularly use Xbox Game Preview, GeForce NOW, and Stadia. Although I wish Google weren't such suckas and let you stream over LTE but hey, what can you do?
Here are my speeds taken directly after the 10.5.8 IN55CB update. 4G LTE, 5G, and WiFi.
Tmo speeds are abysmal in Dallas fort worth of anyone is wondering .
I'm talking much slower than lte, seriously around 15 to 27mbps if you're lucky. I only upgraded from the 7t for 5g and it's a joke.
Just FYI tmo says that's normal and to be expected too... ??
No I'm at anywhere from 45 to 70 mbs download and up to 40mbs up even with a vpn I. Seattle
Decent speed down at the Des Moines/Federal Way border. On 5G.
You guys are killing me! I'm an hour east of Atlanta. My LTE reads 16Mpbs and my 5g reads 31Mpbs. So it's definitely faster but waaaay behind you guys.
Great speed on 5 G. TMO added two more bands and it is blazing fast.
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Decent speed down at the Des Moines/Federal Way border. On 5G.
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This is what I get on 5G with my OnePlus 8 on T-Mobile