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[Q] some questions about the galaxy 3

I just bought this phone and I really like it, though there are some things I would like to ask you guys.
1) I don't have any data plan and don't want to have any for the moment, is disabling the packet data and data roaming options enough? I've also enabled GSM mode only.
2) I've read many people saying to delete some battery stats and charge the phone in a particular way. Do I really need to do that? I usually just wait till there's little battery (about 15%-5%) and then charge it.
My understanding is that Li-ion batteries can be charged at any point, is this correct? I also noted that the battery percentage in about phone sometimes is different than what the battery icon shows. Also, I normally off the phone when charging and at night, I leave it on (in flight mode) at night only if I have an alarm in the morning.
3) To move my music to the SD card I created a music folder because there wasn't one, is this normal? I had the phone format the card before doing it.
Also I have 2 problems with the album art: almost every time I enter the music player the album art has to reload; the other problem is that sometimes the album art are mixed up i.e. they appear on the wrong song/album, they appear correctly on my PC.
4) I'm not sure if I should put a custom ROM. It sounds easy but I don't really do much with my phone. I just call, send texts and listen to music. First I wanted cyanogenmod but it's in alpha so I was thinking of Kyrillo's ROM 9.5. It would be nice to get rid of bloatware and have better battery. The thing is that Kyrillo's Rom seems to have extra stuff while I would prefer the stock 2.2 Android ROM. I don't really know what to do. I've also read that some custom ROMs have better audio driver which I'm interested in. By the way I'm currently using the phone without a google account, maybe I will decide to connect one, don't think I really need it though.
5) I have set the vibration to be on in silent mode, but I would like to have it in "normal mode" only for texts but not for calls, is there a way (without apps)?
Thanks for any answers.

Ok man,i am hete only to answer your fourth question,wich i am completely shure.install a custom rom.do it.kyrillos is good,but kyorarom is the best.root your phone,and remove any system app that you dont use.that will free your internal memory and ram.
Use supercharger script for increasing ram also.if you need a good battery life then use non oc kernels.use some build.prop tweaks also.
Click the thanks button,i wrote all this from my phone
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Well your first three questions are of beginner level. You new to Android I guess. I will suggest you put a data plan and connect to your Google account and get going in the market a bit. Apps and stuff.
And the battery stats thing, there is no need to do it. After 3 4 full charge cycles, the battery adjusts itself up.
The last question, yes go for a custom ROM. They are better than your normal stock ROMs. There is an ODIN guide in the General section please refer to it. I won t suggest CM7 as you are new. But after some time on Froyo, CM7 definately worth a try. I use it as a daily ROM. Only few more main modules left.
And for the vibration question. No there is no way without using an app I guess. I really don t remember the Froyo MMS.apk notification settings. Better just use GoSMS.
Enjoy the phone. Cheers.

DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Ok man,i am hete only to answer your fourth question,wich i am completely shure.install a custom rom.do it.kyrillos is good,but kyorarom is the best.root your phone,and remove any system app that you dont use.that will free your internal memory and ram.
Use supercharger script for increasing ram also.if you need a good battery life then use non oc kernels.use some build.prop tweaks also.
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Thanks man.
By the way, Disturbed! \m/
dhirend_6d said:
Well your first three questions are of beginner level. You new to Android I guess. I will suggest you put a data plan and connect to your Google account and get going in the market a bit. Apps and stuff.
And the battery stats thing, there is no need to do it. After 3 4 full charge cycles, the battery adjusts itself up.
The last question, yes go for a custom ROM. They are better than your normal stock ROMs. There is an ODIN guide in the General section please refer to it. I won t suggest CM7 as you are new. But after some time on Froyo, CM7 definately worth a try. I use it as a daily ROM. Only few more main modules left.
And for the vibration question. No there is no way without using an app I guess. I really don t remember the Froyo MMS.apk notification settings. Better just use GoSMS.
Enjoy the phone. Cheers.
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Thanks to you too.
Yes, this is my first Android and touch screen phone.
Good to know that thing about the battery, I was reading on wikipedia that actually it's a bad idea to let the battery go on low levels.
Link (I can't post complete URLs because I'm new): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Prolonging_battery_pack_life
Regarding a custom ROM, I think I'm going to keep Samsung's Froyo for now and get used to the phone, in the meantime I'm sure the port of Cyanogenmod will improve. Then I'll see which custom ROM to use.
Does anyone know how to resolve #3?

I havent had the music problem.well,i dont go to albums much.just create playlists,it will be easier that way on your phone. And yea,disturbed forever! \m/
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trey77 said:
I just bought this phone and I really like it, though there are some things I would like to ask you guys.
1) I don't have any data plan and don't want to have any for the moment, is disabling the packet data and data roaming options enough? I've also enabled GSM mode only.
2) I've read many people saying to delete some battery stats and charge the phone in a particular way. Do I really need to do that? I usually just wait till there's little battery (about 15%-5%) and then charge it.
My understanding is that Li-ion batteries can be charged at any point, is this correct? I also noted that the battery percentage in about phone sometimes is different than what the battery icon shows. Also, I normally off the phone when charging and at night, I leave it on (in flight mode) at night only if I have an alarm in the morning.
3) To move my music to the SD card I created a music folder because there wasn't one, is this normal? I had the phone format the card before doing it.
Also I have 2 problems with the album art: almost every time I enter the music player the album art has to reload; the other problem is that sometimes the album art are mixed up i.e. they appear on the wrong song/album, they appear correctly on my PC.
4) I'm not sure if I should put a custom ROM. It sounds easy but I don't really do much with my phone. I just call, send texts and listen to music. First I wanted cyanogenmod but it's in alpha so I was thinking of Kyrillo's ROM 9.5. It would be nice to get rid of bloatware and have better battery. The thing is that Kyrillo's Rom seems to have extra stuff while I would prefer the stock 2.2 Android ROM. I don't really know what to do. I've also read that some custom ROMs have better audio driver which I'm interested in. By the way I'm currently using the phone without a google account, maybe I will decide to connect one, don't think I really need it though.
5) I have set the vibration to be on in silent mode, but I would like to have it in "normal mode" only for texts but not for calls, is there a way (without apps)?
Thanks for any answers.
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1. no you dont need to do anything else...
2.you can charge your battery at any time.there is no need to do that at any particular point..and also there is no need to clear the battery stats ..let itbe the way it is.
3.about album arts..did u get them by any app or they were included in the songs.. ? i ve never faced this btw.
4.you can put a custom rom if you want to make it faser and also you can try custom kernels. anyways stock froyo is also a nyc option.
5. i am afraid there is no setting for that without any app !!

I never faced #3. I think the album arts got mixed up in ur songs folder

about the album art problem, i suggest you try a different music player from the market (mixzing is a good choice). That did the trick for me.
Be warned though!!!
The quality of the output of the stock music player is great and unsurpassed by any other app i have tried so far (about 10 and counting...). Given that i mainly use the phone as an mp3 player, that's rather disturbing as the stock player is mediocre at best.
My best guess is that only the stock player takes advantage of the DNSe.
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
deepash said:
2.you can charge your battery at any time.there is no need to do that at any particular point..and also there is no need to clear the battery stats ..let itbe the way it is.
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Perfect.
I hope that the battery percentage and the icon fix themselves because for example now, the percentage is 80% but from the icon it looks more like 90%. There may be a time where I think I have 20% but in reality it's 10%, not good!
deepash said:
3.about album arts..did u get them by any app or they were included in the songs.. ? i ve never faced this btw.
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I manually added them with a program called mp3tag, they work fine on my PC.
I noticed that if I leave the music player open in the background (home button) the covers stay, if I use the back button they don't because the player gets closed.
Considering that you guys don't get this problem I don't know what could be the cause of this. Maybe I should put the music in the root of the SD card rather than in a folder?
The only alternative I found is to use the "My Files" application which shows the music in a list without album art, it's good enough for now.

when you get familiar with phone get yourself a try with cm7 rom beacuse dsp setting and mp3 sound are just amazing over froyo
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trey77 said:
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I manually added them with a program called mp3tag, they work fine on my PC.
I noticed that if I leave the music player open in the background (home button) the covers stay, if I use the back button they don't because the player gets closed.
Considering that you guys don't get this problem I don't know what could be the cause of this. Maybe I should put the music in the root of the SD card rather than in a folder?
The only alternative I found is to use the "My Files" application which shows the music in a list without album art, it's good enough for now.
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well its better if u let the player do it if its capable of doing it by the internet

dansager385 said:
when you get familiar with phone get yourself a try with cm7 rom beacuse dsp setting and mp3 sound are just amazing over froyo
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Yeah, that's the plan.
deepash said:
well its better if u let the player do it if its capable of doing it by the internet
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Well I already have put all the album art, I'll just leave it as it is.
Thanks to both of you.

CPU Health: Warning

Hi, I have been using the CPU Monitor app to track my phone's health. Lately, I have been getting Good status. But recently, I get the Warning status.
According to the CPU Monitor, it is due to the CPU Usage and the space left on the SD card. My questions are is it possible to turn off background apps permantally? I have been using Greenify from Exposed, but every time I reboot. The apps I have hibernated.. Are no longer hibernated.
Also regarding the Clean Master app, when I free RAM. The apps I have selected not to free, must be reselected after reboot.
I just want to have certain apps to not run in the background. Also, is there a way to have CPU Monitor delete the history of my previous scans? Thank you in advance!
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Don't use ram free.
use xposed framework and the boot manager to stop apps at from starting at boot.
To turn off apps permanently to have to freeze them or uninstall

Thank you, I will use boot manager, should I remove clean master app?
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skyhonor said:
Thank you, I will use boot manager, should I remove clean master app?
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Personally I don't use it. I don't understand why it needs to run in the background. To kill app? I don't think so, Android does not need it. I use SD Maid.

Sigh. Using task managers on Android with devices that have more than 512 mb RAM is useless, and slows your phone down...

TiVON said:
Sigh. Using task managers on Android with devices that have more than 512 mb RAM is useless, and slows your phone down...
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Oh good to know. Thank you for your wisdom.
I have been reading this article: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Should I also uninstall Battery Doctor? Thank you.
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personally I've never use battery doctor, does it have profiles to enable, disable things like 3g, location or something could be good.
turn data to 2G while screen is off saves a lot of battery.
I like Juice Defender,

skyhonor said:
Thank you, I will use boot manager, should I remove clean master app?
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You can use the built in privacy guard and just deny autostart.
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skyhonor said:
Oh good to know. Thank you for your wisdom.
I have been reading this article: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Should I also uninstall Battery Doctor? Thank you.
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My response had a bit of a know-it-all tone over it, sorry . But yeah, task managers aren't a very good thing to use.
Battery saving apps don't do any harm and if they have special power saving profiles(screen brightness low, signals off, GPS etc.), sure, use them if you want!
Hope that helps

TiVON said:
My response had a bit of a know-it-all tone over it, sorry . But yeah, task managers aren't a very good thing to use.
Battery saving apps don't do any harm and if they have special power saving profiles(screen brightness low, signals off, GPS etc.), sure, use them if you want!
Hope that helps
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Since I am running franco.kernel with VomerTweaks now. The battery life is pretty good so far. I am running tasker with VomerTweaks.
Tasker is a bit complex because I get confused and overwhelmed easy. I am still learning and have a positive outlook on this Android device. However, lately it has been running slow. (when I run a game in landscape mode, it shifts the home screen to landscape then launches the game. Before, it would just launch. Also, some apps are glitchy now, and it wasn't like that before. (When I open an app, it shows a transparency of the app with the home screen as the background) and would have to re-launch to fix.
This all happened when I applied the VomerTweaks. I haven't done too much research on the VomerTweaks, but I hear everyone is saying it works great. I am having a different experience.
Also, the camera has been hot due to movie watching... but hasn't been doing this when I had battery doctor installed. I will install CPU monitor when I get back home to see what's up. I apologize if what I type is very choppy and unorganized.
My question is if I install VomerTweaks and Battery Doctor, will it conflict and change the system settings and confuse the Android device?
Thank you again.

Install the FKU app from Franco or per app settings then you can change the frequencies for individual apps. All my games I've put at stock settings with Vomer some games experience lag due to the low frequency of CPU and GPU with per app I've got them all on stock and they run just fine. I've even lowered the CPU on non CPU taxing apps like tapatalk for example.
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skyhonor said:
Hi, I have been using the CPU Monitor app to track my phone's health. Lately, I have been getting Good status. But recently, I get the Warning status.
According to the CPU Monitor, it is due to the CPU Usage and the space left on the SD card. My questions are is it possible to turn off background apps permantally? I have been using Greenify from Exposed, but every time I reboot. The apps I have hibernated.. Are no longer hibernated.
Also regarding the Clean Master app, when I free RAM. The apps I have selected not to free, must be reselected after reboot.
I just want to have certain apps to not run in the background. Also, is there a way to have CPU Monitor delete the history of my previous scans? Thank you in advance!
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My recommendation to you is to keep things simple. I have many apps, but I still always have around 1.7GBs of free RAM on average. I have my OPO overclocked to 2.880GHz and the battery still lasts me the entire day with a lot to spare. With time you'll learn to tweak the kernel and weed out and replace inefficient apps to keep the OPO at an optimal state. I now longer use memory or battery "management" apps, they just do more harm, and I find it absurd that a device such as this should get bogged down to such degree.

I just came from reading the "[Q] Wrong kernel : black screen, no fastboot, no adb, no factory reset" thread.
It was heart wrenching to read but as I got closer the page 14, there was light at the tunnel. This community is too awesome.
Anyways, I do not want to ever experience a hard bricked device, that would just destroy me. However, I do love tweaking my phone so that it runs with the least hiccups as possible.
So seeing the lags after installing the VomerTweak bothers me a little. I will keep an open mind and when the develop updates it, I will definately try it again. My question is there a way to uninstall VomerTweaks after flashing the zip file. Or is there a way to make it better with franco.kernel? If so, how? Thank you again.
P.S: I don't know why, but my gut tells me I should not uninstall the VomerTweak, I do not know why... Just a FYI. lol

rickyx32 said:
My recommendation to you is to keep things simple. I have many apps, but I still always have around 1.7GBs of free RAM on average. I have my OPO overclocked to 2.880GHz and the battery still lasts me the entire day with a lot to spare. With time you'll learn to tweak the kernel and weed out and replace inefficient apps to keep the OPO at an optimal state. I now longer use memory or battery "management" apps, they just do more harm, and I find it absurd that a device such as this should get bogged down to such degree.
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How do you overclock your OPO to 2.880GHz? I watch 720p / 1080p Youtube videos for 3 hours using MX Player app and I play 20 minutes of Anomaly my battery life is 15% from a full charge. Also, OPO gets really hot after I play 20 minutes of Anomaly. I'm not sure if this is normal. Also, whenever I set my MX player app to play the Youtube videos in the background, I always have to wait 20~30 secs before it skips the next video. This would happen even before I flashed the VomerTweaks.
Thank you I am aware that the memory and battery apps do more harm. I uninstalled it too. Instead I use Greenify, CM Security, SD Maid, Boot Manager, BusyBox Free, Tasker with VomerTweaks, and Xposed Installer using Nova Launcher. I will post pictures on what's on my home screen.

This is a widget called Animated Photo Frame Widget+, also I blocked out the contacts I have.
The widget is called PowerAmp
This widget is called Weather & Clock Widget
This widget is called DigiCal.
This widget is Animated Photo Frame Widget+ again, but this one changes pictures every 20 secs. Again, I blacked out the contacts I have.
The background I am using is called Wave. I use Bluelight Filter so I don't get blind during the night.
Just a FYI, I bought and supported all the developers who created these apps and widgets. Also, there were no lags before I removed the Clean Master and Battery Doctor, it was only after I installed VomerTweaks.

skyhonor said:
How do you overclock your OPO to 2.880GHz? I watch 720p / 1080p Youtube videos for 3 hours using MX Player app and I play 20 minutes of Anomaly my battery life is 15% from a full charge. Also, OPO gets really hot after I play 20 minutes of Anomaly. I'm not sure if this is normal. Also, whenever I set my MX player app to play the Youtube videos in the background, I always have to wait 20~30 secs before it skips the next video. This would happen even before I flashed the VomerTweaks.
Thank you I am aware that the memory and battery apps do more harm. I uninstalled it too. Instead I use Greenify, CM Security, SD Maid, Boot Manager, BusyBox Free, Tasker with VomerTweaks, and Xposed Installer using Nova Launcher. I will post pictures on what's on my home screen.
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We'll I'm just running a fully updated rooted stock ROM. I'm using AK kernel which is my favorite one for this device, and I use the Synapse kernel app that the dev tells you to use, I think that your will be impressed with allnthe things that app can do, thought I'm not sure it works with other kernels besides AK. You can't overclock on Franco's kernel but you can with AK. 2.880GHz is as high as it goes, and its safe and stable in my opinion. I've bought four OPO's already and its worked without issue on all of them.

rickyx32 said:
We'll I'm just running a fully updated rooted stock ROM. I'm using AK kernel which is my favorite one for this device, and I use the Synapse kernel app that the dev tells you to use, I think that your will be impressed with allnthe things that app can do, thought I'm not sure it works with other kernels besides AK. You can't overclock on Franco's kernel but you can with AK. 2.880GHz is as high as it goes, and its safe and stable in my opinion. I've bought four OPO's already and its worked without issue on all of them.
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Is this the AK Kernel?
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8974
Also, should I remove franco.kernel first? Will I need VomerTweaks too?
I will wait before I do anything.

skyhonor said:
Is this the AK Kernel?
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8974
Also, should I remove franco.kernel first? Will I need VomerTweaks too?
I will wait before I do anything.
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Here's the link bro, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/kernel-ak-t2832168 not sure what the one you gave me was for. Anyway, I recommend you start fresh by doing a wipe and flashing the stock rom. After that, you just flash the AK kernel zip, make sure it's the one for CM11S, flash the UKM zip, your super su zip, and reboot and install the Synapse app from the play store app. I'm glad to help.

rickyx32 said:
Here's the link bro, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/kernel-ak-t2832168 not sure what the one you gave me was for. Anyway, I recommend you start fresh by doing a wipe and flashing the stock rom. After that, you just flash the AK kernel zip, make sure it's the one for CM11S, flash the UKM zip, your super su zip, and reboot and install the Synapse app from the play store app. I'm glad to help.
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I have questions before I wipe and flash the rom.
Whenever OnePlus releases an update will the AK kernel still be compatible?

skyhonor said:
I have questions before I wipe and flash the rom.
Whenever OnePlus releases an update will the AK kernel still be compatible?
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Its been compatible with the recent updates, I've had no issues

[GUIDE] Ways to decrease battery drain for poco

Hello guys,
I am happy to share some ways to decrease battery drain for which is problem for most poco stock miui non root users:
1- Go to every app you don't want on background (always active) and make it (restricted backgroud activity) through Settings-Manage app-choose your app-battery saver
2- For system app: you can do the same by going Settings-Manage app-choose your app-permissions-information icon-battery-choose first option and then restrict app
3- Network signals some times drains battery alot, you could decrease it by changing network bands by the following:
Go to dialer and write (*#*#4636#*#*)-phone information-set preferred network-choose LTE\CDMA\UMTS auto prl (tested on global rom was good), note that you need to change it again after every reboot
4- Disable adaptive limit battery option through Setting-battery&perfomance
5-Activate force close button through Setting-additional setting-buttons&gestures-close current app and choose shortcut you want, then at any app you should force close when you are finished with it.
6- Go to every MIUI app and disable automatic updates and recommendation receive
7- Disable location when you are finished through Setting-additional settings-privacy-location and also disable wifi scanning after every disable
8- Go to Google app through Settings-Google and disable every activity on it as you can
9- Install Greenify app from store and work with (non root device) and hibernate all apps you don't need as background
10- Disable automatic brightness, and also decrease the brightness as you can to save power
11- Go to settings-additional settings-privacy-special access-Battery optimization and then make all apps (optimized)
12-Go to settings-additional settings-authorization&revocation and then disable all apps except (updater-system app updater-feedback-battery&performance-Xiaomi sim activation-settings)
I hope these steps could help you and I'm waiting your comments for additional ways or correcting anything

Any review or test results ?

Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui

Hemudon said:
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
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I think this is from Android system itself due to alot of system app running on backgroud

Hemudon said:
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
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Its not their thing its an android thing. It gets heavier with every update, and since they (its a good thing gone bad) made a lot of those updates standalone of android version it makes like old tablets unusable over the yeras unlike them ipads.
That being said, the advantage of having 4000mah battery is that you still get through every day and have more than the usual midrange 3000mah phone. I get through any day for weeks now even playing games. The tips in this thread are awesome and apply to any phone.

I might as well advise you to clean your USB type-c port once in a while with toothpick since dusts can cause unnecessary wakelocks to your device

whrynox said:
I might as well advise you to clean your USB type-c port once in a while with toothpick since dusts can cause unnecessary wakelocks to your device
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so strange

magaedy said:
so strange
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Dust in the port really causes wakelocks. For proof, visit the BBS thread.

next guide will include stop using the phone and turning it off completely

Instead of doing all these, just spend a few bucks and get a powerbank.

magaedy said:
Hello guys,
I am happy to share some ways to decrease battery drain for which is problem for most poco stock miui non root users:
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Hi magaedy, this list is very useful thank you very much.
Thanks to a RF detector, i found out that my Poco was emitting very often without being sollicited, now I know what to try first.
(In case you are interested in my setup, you can have a look on YouTube searching JaMa6iK4lbM).
Again thanks a lot, this forum is really interesting.
Regards.

GBoTwice said:
Hi magaedy, this list is very useful thank you very much.
Thanks to a RF detector, i found out that my Poco was emitting very often without being sollicited, now I know what to try first.
(In case you are interested in my setup, you can have a look on YouTube searching JaMa6iK4lbM).
Again thanks a lot, this forum is really interesting.
Regards.
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I saw your video and cannot completely understand as it is very advanced but what I want to ask is if poco is emiting waves too much to be harmful on our health ?????

magaedy said:
I saw your video and cannot completely understand as it is very advanced but what I want to ask is if poco is emiting waves too much to be harmful on our health ?????
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Hi magaedy, no, the Pocophone F1 has nothing special regarding its RF electromagnetic radiation, it is just that I own one and that I can do some tests with it. In terms of SAR (Specific Absorption Rate), the Poco even complies with the FCC threshold which is the most stringent.
As a personal point view, i would just avoid to keep it onto my body when i must upload big files, or onto my head for long phone calls, especially when i'm not sure about the RF coverage (bad coverage implies that the mobile emits at its full power, which is e.g. 2 watts in GSM 900).
Depending on my LED light, now I can tell for sure
Rgds,
GBoTwice

smatm said:
next guide will include stop using the phone and turning it off completely
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I want that suggestion. Gonna try it now

1.Uninstall unused apps
2.Force stop every app
3.turn on airplane mode when u r not use phn.
4.stop few sensor-brightness,gyro,ambient(if there is any software to stop sensor forcefully pls reffer)
5.User suggest BO,i suggest battery optimize must be off
6.use magisk lkt-battery
7.*DONT PLAY PUBG* its a battery hunger demon.

smatm said:
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Very funny.
I like this recommendation very much.:fingers-crossed:
Cheers
sssyraj.

I would also wanted to add some battery saving tips:
1. Stick to only one, either Google or MIUI, cloud sync provider then disable everything you don't need on the other.
2. Go to Settings -> Permissions -> Other permissions -> Permissions (tab) -> Start in Background. Only choose the apps that you wanted permissions to receive notifications or third-party sync apps regularly. Others should be disabled. (IDK if this conflicts with MIUI's battery saver but I did it anyway).
3. Disable Double tap to wake or enable it in combination with pocket mode.
4. Put your phone on your pocket with display facing your leg. Prevents false trigger of FP scanner.

I have another suggestion. If using a custom ROM, don't install GApps. Instead use MicroG . I haven't done a side by side comparison, and I'll admit my usage today has been fairly lite, but so far my battery life is great!
I'm running the latest AOSiP ROM.

BentMetal said:
I have another suggestion. If using a custom ROM, don't install GApps. Instead use MicroG . I haven't done a side by side comparison, and I'll admit my usage today has been fairly lite, but so far my battery life is great!
I'm running the latest AOSiP ROM.
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Dude could you please send me the link of microG please?

nosiobadx said:
Dude could you please send me the link of microG please?
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I use the MicroG zip from here:
https://downloads.nanolx.org/NanoDroid/Beta/
If you also flash the f-droid zip, you should also install the f-droid extension module through Magisk.

Question Any real reason to use roms over stock?

Most people seem fairly happy with the stock pixel user experience, after all a main reason we purchase pixels is because of it's software.
in your experience, is there any benefit to any of the currently available custom roms that would increase performance and battery? I mean something bigger than just customisability and tinkering

I've been debating this too. I haven't rooted a device in 4 years. No real reason to anymore. I'm on the fence because I'm hoping for a true blackout theme and better animation transitions on a custom rom. Haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Performance, efficiency, and control over fast more than what Google chooses to provide.

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Performance, efficiency, and control over fast more than what Google chooses to provide.
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What roms are you referring to?

It has been scientifically proven that running custom kernels and/or roms helps to minimize E.D.
Mainly battery life. I have to charge my phone once every 1-1.5 weeks or so, vs every or every other day like most people.
*Keeping the screen brightness only as bright as you need it (i.e. not ecessively set or maxxed out--I keep mine around 1/4 maybe touch more, on the brightness slider.

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I have to charge my phone once every 1-1.5 weeks or so
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Bruh, do you even use your phone at all? What ROM makes such a huge difference for your use to extend your battery life from 1 day to over 7 days?

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Literally any?
GrapheneOS gets rid of all Google Services, thus (and overall) it's a lot more privacy-focused.
Performance isn't a huge issue on Pixel devices (imo), because the ROM they come with isn't super bloated, but you can always just use LineageOS, or any other barebones ROM if you don't need any fancy features, only sleek (slick?) performance.
I have always been a fan of ResurrectionRemix/crDroid, which are filled with TONS of features. Sure, depending on who you are, you might not care for most/some of them (double tapping on statusbar to lock the screen, changing the animation of quick settings tiles when you tap on them, blinking the flashlight when you receive a call, and many, many other small things).
Nowadays, even ROMs like this aren't hogging up your performance or ruin your battery life.
Besides flashing custom ROMs, rooting is still useful for me.
Yeah, getting SafetyNet to pass can be a bit of a hassle, but in exchange I get to use ACC to prolong my battery's health, I can get rid of the navbar pill, and I can use an lsposed module to disable secure flag in my transportation app, so I can take a screenshot of my ticket (should the inspector come when there's no cellular connection (and the app doesn't properly cache the ticket, because of great programming )).
None of these are deal-breakers, but as long as there's still an option for doing these, I wouldn't want to miss out.

Radjah2001 said:
in your experience, is there any benefit to any of the currently available custom roms that would increase performance and battery? I mean something bigger than just customisability and tinkering
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Battery life and performance is pretty good as is. The stock rom on Pixels isn't super bloated, so it's not like it has much of an effect on battery or the performance of your phone. With the stock kernel I lost about 0.6% of battery every hour overnight, with MVK kernel that number got reduced to about 0.4%. Does it make a difference? Not at all.
I guess you could root and use a kernel manager to downclock the CPU to gain some extra SoT, but that's about it. If you're not much of a tinkerer, and content with your current setup, there's no real reason to switch to something else.

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Bruh, do you even use your phone at all? What ROM makes such a huge difference for your use to extend your battery life from 1 day to over 7 days?
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Not really. I have no friends. <s>
I'll use it outside/on road but even then, phone conversations and internet browsing is not very much. Here and there, etc. Mostly texts or instant msgs.But calls here and there. I have it set to charge max 75% and will recharge when it gets to around 20%. Running LineageOS w/ the kernel it comes with it. Nothing fancy. I don't use any social media app (or social media or that matter), so I don't have to worry about that stuff draining the battery. WiFI and/or VPN will so I tend to keep them turned off until I need them. If I used phone more regularly, I could see myself having to recharge it maybe every 3-4 days maybe, I dunno.

Battery life can actually be worse on custom ROMs that do not have Google Play Services. When an app uses Play Svcs to handle push notifications, things like notification pushes get are managed and batched together by Play Services. If a phone does not have Play Svcs, apps that use cloud notifications may have to register their own persistent polling services which can chew up battery. And then you have to disable battery optimization for that app so it doesn't get dozed.
I've at least heard anecdotal evidence that battery life suffers on GrapheneOS because of this. Say, if you have an email client and messaging apps that require a persistent polling service to look for new messages.
Nowadays when I look up reasons to use ROMs or root, I get annoyed when articles list modules or features that serve to fix the issues that the act of making these changes cause (eg- hide root from other apps, force apps to doze, magisk bootloop saver, etc). I mean now you're spending the time managing the problem you've created for yourself. It's silly. Unless there are practical reasons to customize, I see no compelling reason to do so.

jawz101 said:
Battery life can actually be worse on custom ROMs that do not have Google Play Services. When an app uses Play Svcs to handle push notifications, things like notification pushes get are managed and batched together by Play Services. If a phone does not have Play Svcs, apps that use cloud notifications may have to register their own persistent polling services which can chew up battery. And then you have to disable battery optimization for that app so it doesn't get dozed.
I've at least heard anecdotal evidence that battery life suffers on GrapheneOS because of this. Say, if you have an email client and messaging apps that require a persistent polling service to look for new messages.
Nowadays when I look up reasons to use ROMs or root, I get annoyed when articles list modules or features that serve to fix the issues that the act of making these changes cause (eg- hide root from other apps, force apps to doze, magisk bootloop saver, etc). I mean now you're spending the time managing the problem you've created for yourself. It's silly. Unless there are practical reasons to customize, I see no compelling reason to do so.
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Very well said. I've been thinking the same. Google does there optimizations pretty well and they have given even more options to even tinker with a lil more effecient as per your need. There's no need to go out of the way replace the whole rom. even if you do you should have a very good reason and it should have some very noticable difference that can be seen to any one... Though i always have a soft corner for the modding community. Because of their push oems are stepping up their game.

Interesting. I do have Gapps installed and regarding polling the servers, while I myself haven't had battery drain, I can definitely attest to custom roms possibly messing with polling. On my old M8 (which also had Lineage), if the phone was on standby for a long time, I would not get ANY text or IMs unless I turned on the screen, THEN I'd get a bunch of messages. Or even if the phone was on, I would have to send a text message to myself and then I'd get a bunch back from people. So, yes at least on that phone there was serious polling issues I opened myself up with.
Currently I am on the newer phone(s), which I don't experience those issues, but you are absolutely right about them.

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if the phone was on standby for a long time, I would not get ANY text or IMs unless I turned on the screen, THEN I'd get a bunch of messages.
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I've also experienced that issue on my 3T running.. any custom ROM, basically. I think it's mostly fixed on newer ROMs though. YMMV.

Radjah2001 said:
Most people seem fairly happy with the stock pixel user experience, after all a main reason we purchase pixels is because of it's software.
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Speak for yourself. I bought pixel for the HARDWARE, and specifically the fact that it isn't crippled (locked) and is properly supported in AOSP. The factory prebuilt software is utter trash with one purpose and one purpose ONLY: To track everything you do.
In order to safely use the hardware, it is NECESSARY to wipe the spyware from it. Either build AOSP from source yourself, or use a security focused distribution like GrapheneOS.

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Besides flashing custom ROMs, rooting is still useful for me.
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Add possibly Viper4Android on A13 some day and its perfect.
Safetynet / play integrity & hide root is pretty easy on stock, but did you have success on custom Roms?
My banking app doesnt even rely on Safetynet / play integrity and checks for root itself, but shamiko takes care of that, but I suspect it would detect a custom Rom and refuse to work.
An entire Rom would probably much harder to hide than just root.

G5-User7080 said:
Add possibly Viper4Android
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Never really saw the need/use for v4a.
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Safetynet / play integrity & hide root is pretty easy on stock, but did you have success on custom Roms?
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Sure. Never had issues. Besides adding my banking apps to the DenyList, I also had to hide the Magisk app. What I've found is that some apps may look for the Magisk app being installed on your device (you don't even necessarily need to be rooted, just have Magisk installed).

Love the warped perspective a few posts up. Reminder to all on the risks of oxygen deprivation at birth

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Never really saw the need/use for v4a.
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I really hope someone finds out how to make it work on A13 soon, luckily my music app has an eq so its not like it sounds bad, but what I mostly miss is replay gain ig, when I'm outside music with a wider dynamic range is a bit of a problem, the quieter parts just drown in the outside noise.
Sure. Never had issues. Besides adding my banking apps to the DenyList, I also had to hide the Magisk app. What I've found is that some apps may look for the Magisk app being installed on your device (you don't even necessarily need to be rooted, just have Magisk installed).
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yes, mine do, hideMyApplist takes care of that, for some reason when I hide magisk App, it gets picket up by AppListDetector (well not by my banking app at least).
I kinda wanna try a custom ROM but flashing an entire new ROM is a lot scarier than just rooting stock, like some apps might not be working cause they rely on google services etc, maybe when I buy a new phone in a few years and this one doesnt get updates anymore I could try that.

DB126 said:
Love the warped perspective a few posts up. Reminder to all on the risks of oxygen deprivation at birth
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With all the scandals involving big tech all the time, do you really wonder why people distrust google & co?
In the end it's probably never as bad as you fear and never as good as you hope.
A13 has some nice privacy protecting features built in, like Android System Intelligence all happens on device, then again, gboard, google app, etc don't, ig u get a little bit of everything.
You can never be completely private, and for that reason some of my friends say "Well then it doesn't matter anyway, just know everything about me idc" and some others be like "ill just stop using all their services alltogether"
In the end everyone can do what they want cant they?

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like some apps might not be working cause they rely on google services etc
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um, so?
Even if the ROM of your choice doesn't come with GApps preinstalled, you can always just sideload MindTheGapps.

General Another screen on time record

I set records at one point for lgg2 g3 g5 s8 s10 and note 20 for screen on times. Here's another for the books I bet lol
Stock one ui latest update. US device no root.
Adb disable what I don't use. Must of it was on about 25% brightness. Wifi bluetooth and real crappy signal.
No major tweak obviously no root. I got a feeling though I can get more. I started my endurance tests at about 50% remaining.
Most of it was web browsing. With use for a few other apps through the day.

I wonder how much you can get out of it after debloating

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I wonder how much you can get out of it after debloating
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If I had root I could do a lot more. Best I got is adb disable

TheMadScientist said:
I set records at one point for lgg2 g3 g5 s8 s10 and note 20 for screen on times. Here's another for the books I bet lol
Stock one ui latest update. US device no root.
Adb disable what I don't use. Must of it was on about 25% brightness. Wifi bluetooth and real crappy signal.
No major tweak obviously no root. I got a feeling though I can get more. I started my endurance tests at about 50% remaining.
Most of it was web browsing. With use for a few other apps through the day.
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AdBlock? please tell how this sot !
hex app not work with last security patch cant use

alcopsy said:
AdBlock? please tell how this sot !
hex app not work with last security patch cant use
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I'm on the latest us security patch and hex is working for me. I set it up as it asked.for no root.
Only ad block I use is on samsung internet explorer. I like to think most of my screen on time is from not using as many aftermarket apps as most. I'm not on tiktok. Twitter. Snap chat. All of that. Mainly discord telegram.
Instead of using other apps to do what's built in I use the Samsung apps for just about everything. 60hz refresh rate. Screen at 25% or less. These devices are a lot brighter than before.
I use adb to disable a lot of stuff. Auto sync for most apps is off. If I don't have wifi I shut it off. Same with Bluetooth but I do use my galaxy watch 1 still for most of my calls and text. I'm sure there's more. One of these days I'll have to do a reset and detail the list

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I'm on the latest us security patch and hex is working for me. I set it up as it asked.for no root.
Only ad block I use is on samsung internet explorer. I like to think most of my screen on time is from not using as many aftermarket apps as most. I'm not on tiktok. Twitter. Snap chat. All of that. Mainly discord telegram.
Instead of using other apps to do what's built in I use the Samsung apps for just about everything. 60hz refresh rate. Screen at 25% or less. These devices are a lot brighter than before.
I use adb to disable a lot of stuff. Auto sync for most apps is off. If I don't have wifi I shut it off. Same with Bluetooth but I do use my galaxy watch 1 still for most of my calls and text. I'm sure there's more. One of these days I'll have to do a reset and detail the list
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February patch and oneUI 5.1? the problem is when you want to apply a new theme, the created theme disappears after the auto applications of the default theme...

alcopsy said:
February patch and oneUI 5.1? the problem is when you want to apply a new theme, the created theme disappears after the auto applications of the default theme...
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I only built the one theme mixed with a bunch of pluggins. So I haven't tried again since

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I only built the one theme mixed with a bunch of pluggins. So I haven't tried again since
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yes, above all, don't change anything! otherwise you won't be able to use it