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Realistic options for a replacement to the Moto X Pure

So I am getting sick of the battery life of this device and charging twice a day just to get by... the QC helps but it isn't always a viable option for someone who is on the road/travels a lot. I am probably going to go back to my Moto G 2015 for the time being as I could get a full days use most of the time on a single charge and just selling my MXPE.
But now the question comes up as what to replace it with... Moto G 5th gen, Blu Pure XR, ZTE Axon 7 Mini, or ???
My requirements are simple, or so I think...
1) 4+ hours SOT, preferably 5+, in mixed signal environment of WiFi/LTE/3G and sometimes without the best signal strength (for reference, I currently get about 2.5 hours on MXPE)
2) 5.2"-5.7" screen with 1080p minimum resolution
3) Stock Android, "near" stock, or simple UI (no TouchWiz, EMUI, ZenUI, or other bloated UI) that allows easy use of replacement launcher
4) 64GB internal storage or 32GB internal+microSD
5) 3GB or more of RAM
6) Full AT&T network compatibility (GSM 850/1900 and LTE Band 2/4/5/12/17 and optionally 29/30)
7) Nougat or Marshmallow with a Nougat upgrade "guaranteed"
8) 3.5mm headphone jack
9) Dual band WiFi - 2.4 & 5Ghz
10) $300USD or less
Would be nice, but not essential...
1) Unlockable bootloader (implies root/custom recovery/ROM development community)
2) Front facing speakers
3) NFC
4) USB 3.0
Absolute no no's are Samsung, Asus, or Huawei/Honor devices.
What else fits these requirements that I am not considering?

I believe the one phone that comes to mind that would fit most of your requirements is the Axon. I took a break from the MXPE (when it flew off my roof and died a horrible death in a rain storm) and had the Axon 7 (normal size) for about a month. You will get NEAR 4 hours of SoT, a qhd screen, 5.5 inches, relatively light for metal body. Unlockable bootloader and decent dev for it, last I checked. Things that bothered me/ pissed me off were that DTTW was laggy and slow, the actual cell service seemed to be really bad, possibly because of the full metal body phone, and the biggest annoyance - no backlit capacitive buttons, so you were left sort of blind in the dark trying to hit buttons. There is also no way through the build.prop to enable the on-screen buttons to bypass the issue at night, last I checked.
LG V20 could be an option too since it has a bootloader unlock now, 3.5-4.5 hours of SoT. I think it has a bottom bezel speaker though, which is a little weird, and as always the LG software has complaints. The dev is good enough to get around that though.
I'm in the same boat as you though. I've been looking pretty hard to find a new phone and the V20 is the only one I am really considering right now.

Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot

datchico305 said:
Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot
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Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal

This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.

jason2678 said:
This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.
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That actually could be an option... I will investigate further.

acejavelin said:
Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal
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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.

xgerryx said:
If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.
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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol

acejavelin said:
I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol
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Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.

xgerryx said:
Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.
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NEVER AGAIN!!! I refuse to drop $140 plus taxes and fees (realistically $160) for the service level I get now for $72 per month. Plus the limitations on devices, I would have to buy at least one new phone and/or go under contract. Nope, not happening. (Can you tell I have a grudge against Verizon, lol)

I would look around swappa for a OnePlus 3 or 3t it's worth it no bugs lag free and monthly updates it's already on nougat 7.1.1 and the beta builds they offer are great as well and development is great lots of greats ROMs and kernels and unlocking bootloader will not void warranty

TBH...I think you will have a hard time meeting all of your requirements right now. The market looks pretty dismal which is very unfortunate. I personally will hold out a little longer. I'm really looking hard at what Nokia/HMD are coming up with and hoping their roadmap for US devices includes a mid range device soon. So far their line up seems decent and if they are true to their word about expedient updates for Android, and they will sell devices with unlockable bootloaders at decent prices, I'll be sold.

moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow

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moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Like @acejavelin stated, Samsung is not an option, and I agree with him. Yes they have great hardware for the most part, but a less powerful processor running vanilla, our near vanilla Android will run just as well considering the lack of heavy handed UX. I will admit the phone looks great hardware and looks wise, but I personally don't like the look and feel of Samsung TW.

unitz0mbie said:
moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Sammie's are to bloated... Every Samsung devices we have ever had has been problematic... Hope you enjoy yours though but I would never spend that kind of money on a phone.

I have a moto g5 plus as well, its pretty good. It's fast and smooth. Screen and camera are good too, but obviously not as good as the X style.

Yes mxpe battery sucks. I have to charge 2-3 times a day and am not even a heavy user. I know its more than your actual budget but better wait, save a bit more and probably the price will drop also and go for a OP 3T.

i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
there are barely very less phones which have dual front facing speakers.. market has got very saturated.. all look for flagship but they just don't think that having a good speakers is also a part of flagship project!
as per my personal opinion... this phone is just the best phone ive ever used (till 2015) but in upcoming era you will see more and more features
i will recommend you to wait and not hurry up to get a phone...
if you need a pure stock surely get nexus but just wait for new nexus phone.. maybe they might consider it as a flagship and the value might be cheap??
anyways if you're just asking for all the requirements my opinion (AXON 7) not just only for dual front facing speakers but also for the processor(sd 820),storage(64gb,6gb ram) expandable ovbio (256gb)
plot twist: has hybrid sim XD
but im legit that it'll be upgraded to android 'O'
but it cost around $350
think man.. public reviews are also good
it meets all the requirements but is as costly as mxpe

Sagar_1401 said:
i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
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Nougat can't "fix" our battery issue... Radio and display panel are hardware issues and that's where 75% of all battery drain is. It isn't even issues, it's just how much power they use normally. The SD808's radios are terribly inefficient, and the display panel uses more power than some small towns. If you think Nougat is going to noticably improve active use time, your kidding yourself.
To be honest, I might just pull my old Nexus 5 out if the drawer and switch to it... The battery life can't be much worse.
The sound aspect is less important. FF speakers are nice, but as long as I can hear a YouTube video in an average room and turn the ringer up enough u don't care.
I bought the MXPE as an upgrade to my G 2015 and it was on sale for under $250, and for the most part it is, I just didn't realize how bad the battery was, it is easily half of my G.

I got Axon 7 after X and can't be happier. I've had the A7 since August. Has the front speakers i wanted, nice beautiful Samsung screen. Battery is definitely better then X. Software was buggy at the beginning but they have improved it a lot. Axon 7 has been getting a lot of updates, doesn't mean it'll continue, we were the 1st ones to receive 7.0 with the exception of Google devices, and we are the only ones so far (afaik) to receive 7.1.1 with also the exception of Google devices.
It has its flaws but i love the phone. For the money you can't beat it. It's on sale now on newegg for $330.

Who is satisfied with 5t and see no reason to move to 6 your thoughts.

So I have a oneplus 5t,currently running Frankenrom. The phone is blazing fast, dash charge, good battery life and struggling to justify buying the new oneplus 6,apart of course from an urge to just have a new phone. Who else is sitting on the fence and cannot justify leaving a 5t for the 6?, I mean even in terms of real life speed am quiet sure the difference will only be negligible as well.

I sold that MF quick before the prices dropped on swappa, ordering the 6 in the morning.

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I sold that MF quick before the prices dropped on swappa, ordering the 6 in the morning.
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Lol this reply to this thread made me laugh so hard

But seriously guts the oneplus-5t is already a great phone and is it really really worth it?

marvi0 said:
But seriously guts the oneplus-5t is already a great phone and is it really really worth it?
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I had the 5T and I actually didn't like it that much. I had poor battery life and the vibration motor inside felt very cheap. Also, at the time, many developers were staying on the 5 and not upgrading, which left me concerned for the amount of development available.
That led me to sell the 5T and get a Pixel 2 XL. I just ordered the 6 as I feel more developers will also purchase it, but I will definitely keep my 2 XL mainly for its camera.

OP6 camera upgrade is worth it.

It is the matter of time. Do you want it now. Do you have some extra cash to sell the 5t and add some ? and get the 6?
Also, are you a flashoholic? If yes, wait a little bit because development will take a little bit to kick off.

Well, this thread backfired somehow.

Sell the 5T to get the OP6. Sell the OP6 to get the OP6T. Rinse, Lather, Repeat.

I still have my 5T from launch day. Development for it is excellent as a lot of firmwares are unified for the 5/5T. I wouldn't bother with the 6 simply for two reasons:
The 6T will be out later this year and will absolutely be an improvement over the 6.
By fall you will have more to pick from. Pixel 3, Razer Phone 2, OP6T, etc.

jacdelad said:
Well, this thread backfired somehow.
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I mean, what did you expect would happen? A 5T owner, posted this thread in a forum designated for those who purchased the 6 or plan to purchase the 6. Low and behold, he isn't getting props for choosing to keep his 5T. If you couldn't figure out the outcome of the thred before even clicking on it, then I have to question your common sense.
If you want to see 5T owners respond by saying "it's not worth the upgrade", then you need to post crap like this in the 5T section.
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By fall you will have more to pick from. Pixel 3, Razer Phone 2, OP6T, etc.
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Yeah, and by the time Fall rolls around, you might as well hold off for the next phones coming out in the Spring. And at that point you might as well hold out for the phones launching the next fall.... etc. etc.
Realistically, craigslist and swappa have made it very easy to sell our phones for nearly 85% of the value we paid for them, brand new. So if a 6T gets released that seems worth it, I'll sell the 6 and maybe lose $100 by making the switch. So, essentially I'll be paying anywhere from $100 - $150 to get a new phone every 6-8 months. I'm more than happy to do that. Constantly justifying a reason to wait for the next new thing is boring and I'm not willing to do that.
In fact, I just sold my Pixel 2 XL for $710. I was able to pickup the 6 as well as the Nylon bumper and still had nearly $100 left over. So even if I sell my 6 for $100 less than what I just paid for it, I'm still sitting in a good spot to pickup the next variation, whenever it's released.

I'm gonna hold onto my 5t until the 6t. Battery still lasts 2 days without charging and it's still stupid fast.
I think after 6t I will get into cycle of selling to get new model when it comes out. I am thinking every day how nice that 6 is, but I already told myself that I will stay until 6t.

If the xda rom support for the 6 is as good as the 5/5T then I'll probably upgrade from the 5T. Right now 5T's still sell for around 400 on swappa. But there's really no reason for me to upgrade other than wanting to have the latest and greatest lol. OIS is really the only thing that adds value for me. Although I'm in the minority that actually likes the notch, at least the way oneplus has implemented it

jasonrhodes32 said:
Sell the 5T to get the OP6. Sell the OP6 to get the OP6T. Rinse, Lather, Repeat.
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You hit it in the head. I've been doing this since the 1+3.
My 1+6 should be here on Tuesday
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sn0warmy said:
Yeah, and by the time Fall rolls around, you might as well hold off for the next phones coming out in the Spring. And at that point you might as well hold out for the phones launching the next fall.... etc. etc.
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I think you missed the point of what I was getting at. Most people upgrade to the next generation of smartphones which is arguably marked by the SoC generation. I was implying that waiting to see the bulk of phones for this generation is advantageous to anyone with a previous generation smartphone looking to upgrade.
I'm not opposed to your solution of constantly reselling your phone's, but it doesn't come without its own problems which are not relevant to the discussion here.

Still on OnePlus One (and very happy with it), time to move to 6

Upgraded from 5T and couldn't be happier 6 is amazing [emoji16]
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But as a flashaholic....isnt that difficult without too many roms (none?) to flash daily ?

I'll be keeping my 5T, and prefer a phone without a glass back.

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But as a flashaholic....isnt that difficult without too many roms (none?) to flash daily ?
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I've been using my OP6 since 25th and already have TWRP and rooted. Couldn't be happier. The free silicon case works well for me too

Oneplus 7 Pro or Oneplus 7

Anybody like me waiting for the Oneplus 7 to update?
Saw the 7 Pro in a shop today and it looks nice enough but the curved screen edges just waiting for damage. Oh and the selfie cam, if that retracts fully in time when dropped I will be well surprised.
The 7 Pro was right next to a Pixel 3xl and the screens looked very similar if I am honest for quality.
Anyway, wondering if anyone is waiting for the 7. No idea how OnePlus are going to market it now after pushing the 7 pro for so long.

Me too waiting for 7, not interested in Pro, at the price point they are advertising will gladly buy it
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If yiu have a OP6 stick with it, in my opinion both zre not worth trading.

I don't like the size and the pop-up cam on the OP7P and the OP7 (like the op6t) ugly and no notification led

Sh0X31 said:
I don't like the size and the pop-up cam on the OP7P and the OP7 (like the op6t) ugly and no notification led
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And not headphone jack.
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Definitely not the pro with all the ghost touch issues most devices seem to have. The upgrade just feels to small from the 6 so I'm sitting this one out. Maybe next year, or I'll just swap brand entirely.

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Definitely not the pro with all the ghost touch issues most devices seem to have. The upgrade just feels to small from the 6 so I'm sitting this one out. Maybe next year, or I'll just swap brand entirely.
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Why would you want to swap brands? And which brand would you consider switching to? For me the op6 has been nothing but a positive experience. The op6 has everything I've ever wanted from a phone (besides the notch) but that's the only thing, and I can wait another year for an all screen phone no problem :good:

nighter ...
just wait fo K20... the OnePlus killer

Blunts47 said:
Why would you want to swap brands? And which brand would you consider switching to? For me the op6 has been nothing but a positive experience. The op6 has everything I've ever wanted from a phone (besides the notch) but that's the only thing, and I can wait another year for an all screen phone no problem :good:
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Will know when I swap, if I swap
Op6 is treating me well, on thing is customer support that bothers me. Seems they only care for those that buy it directly from them. Even tho if you buy it from a verified shop they really don't give a F.
A friend of mine had big issues with his motherboard, but had to go back and forth over 6 months. All they kept saying was reset the device with the tool they sent him. And so he did. Issues were still there (random reboots, sensors messed up so temperature readings was off..) I'm not sure how much 30 resets will help. Eventually the shop he got it from took care of it as a DOA (after 6 months lol)

Interesting times coming up. Baffled how they are going to market it.
"It's good but not as good as the Pro"???????

Blunts47 said:
Why would you want to swap brands? And which brand would you consider switching to? For me the op6 has been nothing but a positive experience. The op6 has everything I've ever wanted from a phone (besides the notch) but that's the only thing, and I can wait another year for an all screen phone no problem :good:
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I love the OP6. Im worried it will be the last good phone they will release. For me it depends on how much the continue on their new track of not giving the fans that made them what they are, what they ask for. And obviously if they lock anything down thats a deal breaker. And the bloat is really starting to creep in.

Asus Zenfone 6 all the way....
Seriosly thinking sell my OP6 and buy this one.....
Camera on OP (even 7Pro) is a joke.

It's really disappointing that they are no longer marketing to the people who built that brand, which are those looking for a good phone at a good value. They are getting a big head, like Google did when they killed the Nexus line and started selling the MUCH more expensive Pixel. Now they are coming back to making the "a" line, which is essentially a return to the Nexus model.
I really believe that OnePlus would be best off making the best phone that they can each year for $450-499 and a $550-599 "T" model .
I left the Nexus line for OnePlus and was going to leave OnePlus as well after the 5T until the OP6 went on Flash Sale on GearBest for 379.
However, perhaps that's just how I need to buy them from now on. I will wait until the next model comes out and wait for the previous model to go on sale.
So I think I will wait 6 months for when the new model is released around Christmas time and buy the OP7/7Pro.
I have been tempted to get the Pixel 3A XL but the OP6 is still a better device.

No desire to upgrade

My OnePlus 7 Pro is almost one and a half years old, the One Plus 8 Pro has a few more features but I have no desire to upgrade.
Any new phone will give me a bit of a faster processor but for me it is not worth over $1000.
What would it take you to upgrade ?

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I'm waiting for the OP 8 T Pro. Perhaps this one will be my future OP. My OP 7 Pro is fourteen months old.
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Another model with proper full screen. No notch, no punch hole. Then I'd consider.

OnePlus 7 pro is good enough for me, I'm waiting on 5g, Qualcomm's 5.0 100watt charging, or graphene batteries. They are down to 5 mm from 10 mm when s8 plus came out. Also RR rom is a powerhouse over OOS

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OnePlus 7 pro is good enough for me, I'm waiting on 5g, Qualcomm's 5.0 100watt charging, or graphene batteries. They are down to 5 mm from 10 mm when s8 plus came out. Also RR rom is a powerhouse over OOS
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You mean RR has way more options to customize the ROM than OOS or what?
Also... this a offtopic but could you quickly tell me whars ur average SoT in RR?
And do you if its possible to install Oneplus launcher to retain the live wallpapers?

Well I use it nonstop from 4 to 9pm almost every day...what I liked over stock OOS is the animation speed is faster and battery life increased. If 4 to 9 drains full charge of like 90% start then with RR I'm left with 10% battery life doing same thing. Sometimes phone would shut off because battery drained but that has not happened yet RR rom. 4 to 9 I'm driving around using gps

OnePlus 7 Pro is kinda perfect in all sense.
Camera can be improved,but it's fine with gcam.
Refresh rates above 90 can be nice(90 is still a lot better than 60 lol).
Snapdragon 865..hmm that's a beast but for average use we don't even utilise the full power of our 855 chip.Its gonna be more fluid,less stutters(not that I encounter them frequently with my device) but definitely not worth the price bump.
And yes I am never gonna consider notched displays..hate em,kinda ruins everything.Believe me I tried to get used to it with Xiaomi phones but hell no I can never get used to it.
Flat screens will be nice..I am getting lots of accidental touches.. especially around the corners.

Graphene batteries FTW

I really want those new Sammy phone's especially the flip phone 5g but the locked boots for T-Mobile is such a deal breaker...I love mods and ROMs so I'm torn because if I do get a new Sammy I will have to sell my OnePlus and my left arm to get one

My wife is an iPhone user, me op7pro.
She is very conscious about privacy and always comments that "at least with your phone you know when the front camera is on"
That is what will make me consider a newer phone...
Full screen use and a pop up camera.

I'll upgrade once they make another no notch phone.
Pop up selfie and full screen access is perfect for me

Waiting for the 9.

Couldn't agree more. This phone is an absolute killer. I normally go through phones every 6-12 months. I originally had the 6t, and when the 7pro launched I snagged it immediately. I had some financial troubles right after getting it, so I returned it and got my 6t up and running again. But for the few days that I had the 7pro, I was obsessed. The screen, outstanding. 90hz, awesome. Popup cam, tingled my inner nerd. Battery life, solid. Speed, damn quick. What more could I want???
Few months go by, money irons itself out, 7t launches. I promptly snag the 7pro again. I won't look back. Until a phone actually beasts what this phone brings to the table, then I'm good until this thing dies. I would need a screen with no notch or cutout (indisplay or popup), 120hz+, 5g, fast wireless charging, and a significant upgrade in rear camera HW to switch. Looking at you OP 10 pro.

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Couldn't agree more. This phone is an absolute killer. I normally go through phones every 6-12 months. I originally had the 6t, and when the 7pro launched I snagged it immediately. I had some financial troubles right after getting it, so I returned it and got my 6t up and running again. But for the few days that I had the 7pro, I was obsessed. The screen, outstanding. 90hz, awesome. Popup cam, tingled my inner nerd. Battery life, solid. Speed, damn quick. What more could I want???
Few months go by, money irons itself out, 7t launches. I promptly snag the 7pro again. I won't look back. Until a phone actually beasts what this phone brings to the table, then I'm good until this thing dies. I would need a screen with no notch or cutout (indisplay or popup), 120hz+, 5g, fast wireless charging, and a significant upgrade in rear camera HW to switch. Looking at you OP 10 pro.
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I think the OnePlus 9 is about as soon as I would upgrade. even then, if Dual-SIM doesn't work it's a non-starter for me.

It's usually cheaper for me to upgrade every year then every 2 years at the resale value of a 1 year old OnePlus phone is really good. I lose about $100 on the phone resale probe to when I bought it new as my phone's are always mint when I sell them.
That said, this was the first time I didn't sell and buy a new OnePlus (bought the 5, 6 and 7pro). The loss of the full screen with no notch or punch hole is a deal breaker for me after having the 7 pro.
I was fine with a OnePlus phone with no wireless charging, OFFICIAL, IP rating to keep the price in the 600-700 price range. I will never pay 1k for a phone. I have the money, that not an issue, I just won't spend it on a phone.
So full screen with no notch or hole in display and 600-700 price or I'll just but year old used phones in the fire I guess. In the mean time, this phone still can't be showered down and with 256gb and 12gb ram it's pretty future proof, especially since OnePlus is known to do 3 versions of Android on the same device

Should I upgrade to the 8t?

I've been itching to upgrade from my 7 pro. Is the 8t worth the upgrade? I'm on T-mobile, so my jump is available for an upgrade. I'm just not sure if it's worth using. That's where I'm gonna rely on you guys for advice. I'd either upgrade to the 8t or the Galaxy s20.
What is your opinion?
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Neither...After OP7Pro, oneplus has been on a downhill route by bedding with several big companies like facebook to preinstall their services. Gone are the rebellious days when OnePlus didn't care jack shi* of what the world thought of them. Their sole purpose, then, was to kill the best available Android device at an affordable price. Today, they keep killing their own devices every six months (or should I say 3 months since the launch of Nord) and have courted and even gone to bed with snooping social media services just so that they can gather another revenue stream. OOS11 is probably the last nail in the coffin that goes against everything the company once stood for. Although I spoke of OnePlus here, don't worry, Samsung isn't any different. They also install a whole load of unwanted bloatware in their software that are quite hard to get rid of even with root.
I don't see how the OP7Pro is slow even though it's an ancestor in tech terms (18 moonths+ years old)! The processing power, today, hasn't jumped drastically neither has RAM capacity. OP7 storage is on UFS 3+ and coupled with a 90hz screen, how is this phone slow compared to today's flagships? If you are looking for antutu/ geekbench scorecards, then you will have to change phones every month because there's practically a flagship every month that sets a new benchmark in these scorecards. Besides, would you be running these benchmarking apps daily or looking at your social media apps, browsing the web, youtubing, clicking photos etc? I'd put my money on the second half of my question. In that case, doesn't your OP7 do a great job at it? For the OP7 to be outdated, you really need an Android version that would slow it down or for OonePlus to deliberately throttle it down via an update. Or....if you are really hard pressed to upgrade the device, damage it beyond repair Till then, I'd say to keep the device.

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Battery life has degraded, and I'm tired of the curved display.
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stehova said:
Why are you itching to upgrade? Personally, I find the phone to still be super quick and love the full screen layout with popup camera. Android 11 is expected in December; not that far away. As for above comments on social, too true, though the 8T doesn't have Facebook bloatware, thankfully.
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Except that they have partnered with bitmoji instead of facebook...again, just another snooping app...

Wait for the 9 series. The 8 is not worth upgrading from the 7.

No!
In my mind, it is not necessarily. The OP 8 T is not revolutionary! The OP 7 Pro does its work daily. I'm waiting for the 9 series as well. Do keep your OP 7 Pro.
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I'd say no, the pop up camera is really nice because you won't have anything on screen and honestly going to hole punch really feels like a downgrade; sure it has a better cpu but the 855 is honestly good enough at this point, I can play gamecube games at 60fps, I'm set for atleast a year or two. With a cheap battery replacement, this phone is golden

I actually did that last week, replaced the battery myself and made the back transparent to see the pop up camera motor.
Went from 3180ma to 3878mA, not full capacity I guess? But it's much better now and this battery does not overheat like the last one did.
Now I just charge to 89% as never let it run below 20% that way this battery should last long.
The phone itself is really snappy and even more since I'm using F2FS , but I'm not gonna lie, I also wanted to upgrade to the 8 because that's the way I am, I like to have the best one out there if possible but that punch hole display stopped me from doing it.
Wait for 9... It will probably have the front camera below the screen and that would be the best, that's what I will do but if I can sell it in the mean time I will also do... Because that's how I am xd

PriPhaze said:
I actually did that last week, replaced the battery myself and made the back transparent to see the pop up camera motor.
Went from 3180ma to 3878mA, not full capacity I guess? But it's much better now and this battery does not overheat like the last one did.
Now I just charge to 89% as never let it run below 20% that way this battery should last long.
The phone itself is really snappy and even more since I'm using F2FS , but I'm not gonna lie, I also wanted to upgrade to the 8 because that's the way I am, I like to have the best one out there if possible but that punch hole display stopped me from doing it.
Wait for 9... It will probably have the front camera below the screen and that would be the best, that's what I will do but if I can sell it in the mean time I will also do... Because that's how I am xd
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I just ordered a battery myself off aliexpress because that was the only place i could find one. where did you get yours from?
accubattery saying im at 77% capacity and i can really feel it now adays. bought the phone new in june 2019 so i guess it makes sense to be degrading so much.
im also going to go with the clear back once the battery gets here (jerryrig wud uppp)
The 8 pro has tempted me but still not cheap enough for me to bite.
Flashed YAAP 11 rom and im more up to date then almost all phones out right now
7 pro is still a beast and with a new battery and awesome rom support i feel like i could easily hit the 2 year mark with this bad boy!

Wickidmasshole said:
I just ordered a battery myself off aliexpress because that was the only place i could find one. where did you get yours from?
accubattery saying im at 77% capacity and i can really feel it now adays. bought the phone new in june 2019 so i guess it makes sense to be degrading so much.
im also going to go with the clear back once the battery gets here (jerryrig wud uppp)
The 8 pro has tempted me but still not cheap enough for me to bite.
Flashed YAAP 11 rom and im more up to date then almost all phones out right now
7 pro is still a beast and with a new battery and awesome rom support i feel like i could easily hit the 2 year mark with this bad boy!
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Just be careful, AliExpress sell some pretty sketchy batteries, even there's a supposed 4600mAh battery which of course is probably not.
I actually got mine from eBay and from a seller in Europe , cuz I tried to avoid China as much as I could in this matter.
The thing is that there's a hell bunch of fake OnePlus charges and batteries in Ali that will probably do worse than your 77% battery you currently have.
If you have the chance to get an official battery change from OnePlus do it.
I didn't do it because there's no way in my country so this was my last option.
Here's a pic of the battery I installed (and the original) , it doesn't even have the logo of OnePlus although I can confirm its works good and warp charges correctly too.

PriPhaze said:
Just be careful, AliExpress sell some pretty sketchy batteries, even there's a supposed 4600mAh battery which of course is probably not.
I actually got mine from eBay and from a seller in Europe , cuz I tried to avoid China as much as I could in this matter.
The thing is that there's a hell bunch of fake OnePlus charges and batteries in Ali that will probably do worse than your 77% battery you currently have.
If you have the chance to get an official battery change from OnePlus do it.
I didn't do it because there's no way in my country so this was my last option.
Here's a pic of the battery I installed (and the original) , it doesn't even have the logo of OnePlus although I can confirm its works good and warp charges correctly too.
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I hear ya. I'm going to run it through the paces before I go and button everything back up. I've never bought anything off aliexpress so I bad experience would not surprise me at all haha

Wickidmasshole said:
I hear ya. I'm going to run it through the paces before I go and button everything back up. I've never bought anything off aliexpress so I bad experience would not surprise me at all haha
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Yea give it a nice test before closing the back , if you can use it like 3 times from 100 to 1 just to be sure...
Looks like my photos didnt upload? Here they are
Nvm i give up XDA being bad as always with attachments:
Link here to pics https://imgur.com/a/KJZOEH2

OnePlus 7 Pro is still a good phone nonetheless in 2020 but I'm actually tempted to upgrade due to a couple of things, especially the curved screen. In plain daylight it reflects so much it starts to get annoying, especially on low brightness. I thought it was fine the first few months but have turned around sadly. Battery has also degraded massively, I know it happens to everyone due to use, but a bit different in my case. Below 80% Battery Health (bought my EU 7 Pro on 3rd day after release) Have tried to get battery replaced from OnePlus 2 times, first time (warranty repair) nothing replaced other than the screen, burn-in stated in repair report. (was not an issue stated from me). 2nd try I even stated that I wanted to PAY to replace the battery, no matter the price, support chat said it would be no problem and they would mail me before repair with an invoice, fine for me. Woke up the next day with a mail that my phone already dispatched, front-camera was replaced. Was not even broken on my end before sending it in. Nothing else. Apparently still replaced under warranty. Both replacements were done in only 2 days so nothing negative about that, just OnePlus support not listening to my requests, so disappointed to a degree. Buying a replacement battery and replacing it myself has not really been an option, nothing local or almost any stores in EU with original battery other than sketchy eBay sellers. AliExpress has looked promising (bought phone-related stuff from there before so I trust it) but not given it a try due to the horrendous shipping times.. (Covid) Also let's add the 25% customs fee on every package in my country from outside the EU. Yay. A bit annoying not having the same SOT since day 1 and having to charge at least one time per day. (I use my phone at work alot)
If we dismiss the bad, this thing still holding strong speed-wise, flashed A11 YAAP a couple of days ago and it doesn't disappoint, still as snappy on OOS and AOSP Roms as from release date. Pop-up Camera is a plus over hole punch for me also. If you are not really in an emergency to buy a new phone a better pick would maybe be to wait for OnePlus 9, maybe it brings something more revolutionary as an upgrade than just silly small Snapdragon upgrades and screen compared to the last models. 8t is still tho an upgrade specs-wise, 865, 120hz and 65W. I'm thinking of getting one if I cant get my battery replaced sometime in the near future or it breaks, or maybe some early OnePlus 9 leaks push me to wait. For 600-650€ in the EU it's actually pretty tempting, compared to S20 FE and new Pixel lineup other than IP68, that I don't really care about.

Rumors are swirling the oneplus 9 will drop in MARCH
So I'd hold out a little longer my friends!

I also swapped out the battery with Ali Express. The 4600 is fake as it was the first I tested out. Happy to say I'm back at full capacity and I have 2nd battery waiting to used when I also replace. I'm moving to an 5g city and I got verizon, 65watt charging, 5000mah, and 5nm processor seem tempting if that's what is coming next year. Since xda is having issues with upload I got 101 charge sessions and it says the estimated capicty is 4021mah

Don't upgrade
I personally "downgraded" from the iPhone 11 to the OnePlus 7 pro and it wasn't as big of a jump as I thought it'd be. And when the 8t got announced less than a month after I bought my 7 pro I jumped for joy. Why you ask? It's literally the same phone but with a hole punch and an extra year or so of OTA updates. The 7 pro still holds up to today's standards and if you're worried about update support get a custom ROM. The 7 pro is personally my all time favourite. I put it above the iPhone 12, the Samsung note 20 ultra, the OnePlus 8T and whatever anyone else has. Wait until the 9 or at least when they make a new phone without a display cut out or you're going to buy a new phone just for it to look outdated really soon. The 7 pro is just as fast as the new ones, just wait until something game changing comes out where you don't need to ask whether to buy it, cuz you know.

Technoboss28 said:
I personally "downgraded" from the iPhone 11 to the OnePlus 7 pro and it wasn't as big of a jump as I thought it'd be. And when the 8t got announced less than a month after I bought my 7 pro I jumped for joy. Why you ask? It's literally the same phone but with a hole punch and an extra year or so of OTA updates. The 7 pro still holds up to today's standards and if you're worried about update support get a custom ROM. The 7 pro is personally my all time favourite. I put it above the iPhone 12, the Samsung note 20 ultra, the OnePlus 8T and whatever anyone else has. Wait until the 9 or at least when they make a new phone without a display cut out or you're going to buy a new phone just for it to look outdated really soon. The 7 pro is just as fast as the new ones, just wait until something game changing comes out where you don't need to ask whether to buy it, cuz you know.
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I've been considering trying a custom rom. I'm currently running OOS beta 18, rooted with XXX. But there are so many custom roms, I don't even know where to start. I'd be afraid of losing features. And reinstalling and logging back into all my apps is such a pain in the neck.
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r0fless said:
OnePlus 7 Pro is still a good phone nonetheless in 2020 but I'm actually tempted to upgrade due to a couple of things, especially the curved screen. In plain daylight it reflects so much it starts to get annoying, especially on low brightness. I thought it was fine the first few months but have turned around sadly. Battery has also degraded massively, I know it happens to everyone due to use, but a bit different in my case. Below 80% Battery Health (bought my EU 7 Pro on 3rd day after release) Have tried to get battery replaced from OnePlus 2 times, first time (warranty repair) nothing replaced other than the screen, burn-in stated in repair report. (was not an issue stated from me). 2nd try I even stated that I wanted to PAY to replace the battery, no matter the price, support chat said it would be no problem and they would mail me before repair with an invoice, fine for me. Woke up the next day with a mail that my phone already dispatched, front-camera was replaced. Was not even broken on my end before sending it in. Nothing else. Apparently still replaced under warranty. Both replacements were done in only 2 days so nothing negative about that, just OnePlus support not listening to my requests, so disappointed to a degree. Buying a replacement battery and replacing it myself has not really been an option, nothing local or almost any stores in EU with original battery other than sketchy eBay sellers. AliExpress has looked promising (bought phone-related stuff from there before so I trust it) but not given it a try due to the horrendous shipping times.. (Covid) Also let's add the 25% customs fee on every package in my country from outside the EU. Yay. A bit annoying not having the same SOT since day 1 and having to charge at least one time per day. (I use my phone at work alot)
If we dismiss the bad, this thing still holding strong speed-wise, flashed A11 YAAP a couple of days ago and it doesn't disappoint, still as snappy on OOS and AOSP Roms as from release date. Pop-up Camera is a plus over hole punch for me also. If you are not really in an emergency to buy a new phone a better pick would maybe be to wait for OnePlus 9, maybe it brings something more revolutionary as an upgrade than just silly small Snapdragon upgrades and screen compared to the last models. 8t is still tho an upgrade specs-wise, 865, 120hz and 65W. I'm thinking of getting one if I cant get my battery replaced sometime in the near future or it breaks, or maybe some early OnePlus 9 leaks push me to wait. For 600-650€ in the EU it's actually pretty tempting, compared to S20 FE and new Pixel lineup other than IP68, that I don't really care about.
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What's A11 YAAP?
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ledvedder said:
I've been considering trying a custom rom. I'm currently running OOS beta 18, rooted with XXX. But there are so many custom roms, I don't even know where to start. I'd be afraid of losing features. And reinstalling and logging back into all my apps is such a pain in the neck.
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I used Kang OS which is amazing but as of right now the auto brightness is a bit funky, but I usually go with LineageOS 18. And the best thing about our phone is we can use a custom ROM for a bit until the stable version comes out from OnePlus OTA. And there's not a lot of OnePlus exclusive features that I use so it's perfect for me