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[Q] Differences between a BG58100 & GI39100 Battery? [ANSWERED]

Short but powerful,
Without all the blablabla straight to the point. I got ?fooled? by a phone company 's expert(?) who told me this was not going to do any damage to my phone, and refused me to give me my money back after i found out that the battery was not good(the same as OEM z710e voltage ratings) when i came home.
I have a z710e, it came out of the factory in 2011. Original battery specifications:
m/n BG58100 p/n 35H00150-02M (3.7VDC 5.62Whr 1520mah)
The battery triple checked by "Expert" and sold by him is a:
m/n BI39100 p/n 35H00170-01M (3.8VDC 6.08Whr 1600mah)
My phone model: z710e (PG58130) original battery p/n: 35H00150-02M from 2011.
Next time I'll check this stuff myself and don't let those people do it for me. They either don't have any good batteries for this model and just sell the one that actually over volts your phone. Or other batteries and so had in his mind to sell me this and don't care about it, like "oh well who the heck cares, this person will never find out and will return to me when his phones is death". Well I'm pretty sure that this will not make my phone last any longer than a year / half a year or less! And i still need it for a year or longer if possible.
Feel free to reply, but only if you know that what you are telling is 100% correct. Please avoid non-valid information or answers, thanks :good:
I am not a pro either but this just doesn't seem to be correct. Feel free to correct me, if i made any mistakes.
https://www.google.co.uk/?#q=35H00170-01M+compatibility
If you don't understand my actual question, then I'm deeply sorry. Often my stories are not so easy to understand duo to my bad English.
The question in a nutshell is simply : Will this higher end battery do damage to the phone and is my story right, i mean is this battery not compatible with my model because it can do damage duo to over volting the ma inboard/soc (because of higher battery output ratings?)

NiTrOwow said:
Short but powerful,
Without all the blablabla straight to the point. I got ?scammed? by a phone company 's expert(?) who told me this was not going to do any damage to my phone, and refused me to give me my money back after i found out that the battery was not good(the same as OEM z710e voltage ratings) when i came home.
I have a z710e, it came out of the factory in 2011. Original battery specifications:
m/n BG58100 p/n 35H00150-02M (3.7VDC 5.62Whr 1520mah)
The battery triple checked by "Expert" and sold by him is a:
m/n BI39100 p/n 35H00170-01M (3.8VDC 6.08Whr 1600mah)
My phone model: z710e (PG58130) original battery p/n: 35H00150-02M from 2011.
Next time I'll check this **** myself and don't let those people do it for me. They either don't have any good batteries for this model and just sell the one that actually over volts your phone. Or other batteries and so had in his mind to sell me this and don't care about it, like "oh well who the **** cares, this person will never find out and will return to me when his phones is death". Well I'm pretty sure that this will not make my phone last any longer than a year / half a year or less! And i still need it for a year or longer if possible.
Feel free to reply, but only if you know that what you are telling is 100% correct. Please avoid non-valid information or answers, thanks :good:
I am not a pro either but this just doesn't seem to be correct. Feel free to correct me, if i made any mistakes.
https://www.google.co.uk/?#q=35H00170-01M+compatibility
If you don't understand my actual question, then I'm deeply sorry. Often my stories are not so easy to understand duo to my bad English.
The question in a nutshell is simply : Will this higher end battery do damage to the phone and is my story right, i mean is this battery not compatible with my model because it can do damage duo to over volting the ma inboard/soc (because of higher battery output ratings?)
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First of all you should search a little bit more to see that the same battery (35H00170-01M) is offered by numerous companies as a replacement battery for various phone models (Titan, Vivid, z710e...) just like the battery from your phone (35H00150-02M) is offered for the same models.
Then, you can find the same battery (35H00170-01M) offered with different voltages, both 3.7V and 3.8V, and the difference of 0.1V will not harm your phone, cause, you can see it yourself, voltage rating for the original phone charger is 5V and it doesn't harm your phone.
And the last, the other data you got for the battery (Whr and mah) mean only that you have battery that should last longer than the original one you have.
I hope I helped...

nlooooo said:
First of all you should search a little bit more to see that the same battery (35H00170-01M) is offered by numerous companies as a replacement battery for various phone models (Titan, Vivid, z710e...) just like the battery from your phone (35H00150-02M) is offered for the same models.
Then, you can find the same battery (35H00170-01M) offered with different voltages, both 3.7V and 3.8V, and the difference of 0.1V will not harm your phone, cause, you can see it yourself, voltage rating for the original phone charger is 5V and it doesn't harm your phone.
And the last, the other data you got for the battery (Whr and mah) mean only that you have battery that should last longer than the original one you have.
I hope I helped...
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It indeed is, but i have really bad experience with replacement batteries. And those small 'voltage increases'. They end up to die quicker a lot quicker in my personal experience. And i think it is also the reason why, many sellers don't include my model in the compatibility list.The 3.8VDC 6.08whr version is meant for the XL and titan version witch is actually indeed the same but +300mhz overclocked.

NiTrOwow said:
It indeed is, but i have really bad experience with replacement batteries. And those small 'voltage increases'. They end up to die quicker a lot quicker in my personal experience. And i think it is also the reason why, many sellers don't include my model in the compatibility list.The 3.8VDC 6.08whr version is meant for the XL and titan version witch is actually indeed the same but +300mhz overclocked.
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To be honest I have some cheap s**t called Hinorx Extended Battery that's 1200mah (don't know what's extended there but that's what I got when I ordered regular replacement battery for Sensation) and it works really well, can go up to 25-30h with 2h of screen, lots of wifi (ARHD 7.3 with 1,5MHz o/c).
Don't worry about 0.1V, it means nothing. And for life of battery I hope you got warranty...

nlooooo said:
To be honest I have some cheap s**t called Hinorx Extended Battery that's 1200mah (don't know what's extended there but that's what I got when I ordered regular replacement battery for Sensation) and it works really well, can go up to 25-30h with 2h of screen, lots of wifi (ARHD 7.3 with 1,5MHz o/c).
Don't worry about 0.1V, it means nothing. And for life of battery I hope you got warranty...
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It don't has warranty. But it's oke. It is a OEM battery they said. Btw it works fine, only had to use another charger with a output of 1.5a. It would not charge otherwise. But well, lets see how long it keeps working.

Haha it seems to not work charging for 5 hours now and still 0% cannot go in cwm recovery and when it starts it will reboot and orange/green led will blink again. I tried to reboot it several times, tried to clean/bend the pins and all the other tips from XDA forum seasrch results and nothing seems to work.. Great =(

NiTrOwow said:
Haha it seems to not work charging for 5 hours now and still 0% cannot go in cwm recovery and when it starts it will reboot and orange/green led will blink again. I tried to reboot it several times, tried to clean/bend the pins and all the other tips from XDA forum seasrch results and nothing seems to work.. Great =(
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Did you try defferent chargers, stock one should (1A) be fine.

nlooooo said:
Did you try defferent chargers, stock one should (1A) be fine.
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Yes i did but it got extremly hot so i switched back to the stock charger. And it actually should be fine? +0.1 volt doesn't matter?
The battery does not hold charge at all. It turns on battery level is 0% and will reboot and do orange/green led indication for as long as you keep it in the charger. When you get it out of the charger and turn it on it will go off as soon as android is loaded up intro the pincode screen. Guy at the store told me the led indication meant that the bettery is at an extremly low level of power and that it just needs to charge some more.
Well i have been charging it for like +5 hours now for sure. Using the OEM charger rated at 5VDC 1A. It is not the cable or faulty charger. If i test the output or on my tablet it works just fine. And with the old battery i'm able to charge it, but the old battery is dead, it does not hold load properly anymore. It drops a lot of times from 80% to 1% in like maybe 30 minutes of usage.
Also when using the GI39100 i cannot get intro adb or recovery..

NiTrOwow said:
Yes i did but it got extremly hot so i switched back to the stock charger. And it actually should be fine? +0.1 volt doesn't matter?
The battery does not hold charge at all. It turns on battery level is 0% and will reboot and do orange/green led indication for as long as you keep it in the charger. When you get it out of the charger and turn it on it will go off as soon as android is loaded up intro the pincode screen. Guy at the store told me the led indication meant that the bettery is at an extremly low level of power and that it just needs to charge some more.
Well i have been charging it for like +5 hours now for sure. Using the OEM charger rated at 5VDC 1A. It is not the cable or faulty charger. If i test the output or on my tablet it works just fine. And with the old battery i'm able to charge it, but the old battery is dead, it does not hold load properly anymore. It drops a lot of times from 80% to 1% in like maybe 30 minutes of usage.
Also when using the GI39100 i cannot get intro adb or recovery..
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Faulty battery. It's not about volts, it's about bad battery.
You should require replacement or reimbursement.

nlooooo said:
Faulty battery. It's not about volts, it's about bad battery.
You should require replacement or reimbursement.
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It is the second brand new battery the guy in the store put intro it.
Both did the same, it just doens't work.
1. Does not turn on (sometimes when lucky)
2. Holds no charge
I did
1. Wipe battery stats (in the end, like 5 minutes ago from writting. It took me half an hour to get the phone booting while charging)
2. The phone started only twice, now it does nothing anymore (with this new bat).
Also the battery info was all wrong.
When i checked the 1st time when i got it on i went to settings > about the phone > status > batterystatus it did show me(i left it nearly 3 hours like this and still 0%):
- Batterystatus: Unknown <----------------- Before battery stat wipe, after wipe still the same, no power on.
- Battery level: 0% <----------------- Before battery stat wipe, after wipe still the same, no power on.
While it should look like this!
- Battery is being discharged (when not charging)
- Battery level: 93% (old poor battery meanwhile after so much testing already full again)
When i put the old battery in place it works without problems. When i put the new one in it doesn't + battery stats are not even readed by android itself and recovery menu stated a warning. "Warning phone is under-volted" or some message like that. And the LED indicator flash in an unusual way (orange/green) this probably is an error code. Well, complete nonsense because i use the same charger. And the XL version has the same 1A charger, so this makes no sense. The battery is just not compatible.
The battery has been charging for almost 13 hours now. And still 0% + orange/green led flashes.
I have no tools here i had to imprevise with crap, gluetape and a doorbell to get a cracky 5 dollar multimeter working, LoL.
here is the bat output;
a 0.08 v 20 3.52v hv 750 0.07 hv 200 06.8 with other words it should be fine to run and maybe get 50% battery level. But it is still z3r0~ when i put it in my phone.

Topic prefix can be set to [ANSWERED]. The m/n BI39100 p/n 35H00170-01M battery works just fine in the z710e. Confirmed to work, even with 0.1v increase (does not produce more heat or instability, like some cheap fake batteries do without protection IC xD)
I went back to the store they gave me another battery and it instantly worked. So i had two faulty batteries. Lucky me again haha....
Probably or the store where i got it from does not test bats and throws them intro one big box or just very very unlucky.
The battery stats now work, no warning in recovery menu and no orange/green flashing in the led indication.
So if somebody has the same issue as me, your battery is 100% sure faulty. And you should toss it back to the re-seller for warranty or if you purchased the parts loose RMA it.
Get or an good alternative non-oem brand like anker. That is sure to be safe and good of quality. And never use fake chargers from like cheap Chinese tabs or phones. Often they have terrible output and this can badly damage your battery/phone because the output might not be stable enough and drops and increases a lot of times, either using a 2A charger does not make any sense at all. It will go just as fast as a 1A charger because the limit is 1A through(in most phones some can have other ratings). Only thing that can damage your phone/battery is if you go over the 5VDC. More volts = more heat = less lifespan. Amps are taken by the device and volts are given.
Confused
The new battery i have now is a BI39100 35H00186-00M. The 35H00170-01M does not seem to work in a PG58130 z710e or i had two faulty batteries... ?

Charging slow - Can't charge to 100% [Solved]

The problem is the middle pin on the battery connector (on the motherboard) which reads the battery temp is damaged, so only slow charging for me. the battery connector/pin is too small to resolder without the proper tools and no one is selling a 32GB Nexus 5 board currently. The few I saw last week were like $100 :crying: so can't fix for now.
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Hey XDA'ers,
Not sure what's wrong with my N5, the phone is charging extremely slow. the icon on the notification area shows the phone as charging. In the battery settings it says the phone is not charging. Also using apps like ampere tell me....
battery health: cold
temperature: -30C
Voltage: 3.9 - 3.95 range [normal voltage is 3.8 so seems fine]
the behavior is consistent across all ROM's, stock, etc. . and the phone only charges in bootloader mode (still slow at that) any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks

What value of current ampere shows you??
Did you try by changing charger or data cable??

LetJect said:
What value of current ampere shows you??
Did you try by changing charger or data cable??
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value of current? I don't see that as a option. and many charger and cables they all work on other phones but the issue remains on mine.

At low battery voltage should be at about 3.6V and current drawn should be around 1150 mA. As voltage increases i.e. full charge voltage should be around 4.5 V and current drawn at 90% of battery should be around 900mA.
So just check values by app Ampere.

drago10029 said:
Hey XDA'ers,
Not sure what's wrong with my N5, the phone is charging extremely slow. the icon on the notification area shows the phone as charging. In the battery settings it says the phone is not charging. Also using apps like ampere tell me....
battery health: cold
temperature: -30C
Voltage: 3.9 - 3.95 range [normal voltage is 3.8 so seems fine]
the behavior is consistent across all ROM's, stock, etc. . and the phone only charges in bootloader mode (still slow at that) any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks
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I heard somewhere that this is problem in battery connector or thermal sensor. There was fix for this too. I can tell you if i find it again

V4LT5U said:
I heard somewhere that this is problem in battery connector or thermal sensor. There was fix for this too. I can tell you if i find it again
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You are correct and it could be either of the 2 actually. In my case I noticed the middle battery connector on my nexus 5 motherboard is bad so that explains why I can't get it to charge properly.
The problem now is I haven't been able to find a replacement 32GB board at all, not even ebay........ so I'm gonna make another thread to ask for some help with that.

drago10029 said:
You are correct and it could be either of the 2 actually. In my case I noticed the middle battery connector on my nexus 5 motherboard is bad so that explains why I can't get it to charge properly.
The problem now is I haven't been able to find a replacement 32GB board at all, not even ebay........ so I'm gonna make another thread to ask for some help with that.
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Damn. Did you damage it like if you were replacing battery? Guess i have to remember to be careful if i replace mine. Btw found the thread, may not help you if the pin is like not even attached anymore but anyways here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/battery-issue-charge-cold-t3100267
Edit: And here is iFixit mother/logicboard, don't if you get extra customs/fees if you don't live in USA. Not even sure do they send them from USA, or do they have like EU stock or something. No idea. And not sure if it even is worth the price. link: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Google-Nexus-5-Motherboard/IF293-004-1
Edit 2: Aand they are out of stock.
Edit 3: You could try also to find slightly damaged n5 with working mobo but again need to think is it worth is and such. Could try also to sell the parts you didn't use from it.

V4LT5U said:
Damn. Did you damage it like if you were replacing battery? Guess i have to remember to be careful if i replace mine. Btw found the thread, may not help you if the pin is like not even attached anymore but anyways here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/battery-issue-charge-cold-t3100267
Edit: And here is iFixit mother/logicboard, don't if you get extra customs/fees if you don't live in USA. Not even sure do they send them from USA, or do they have like EU stock or something. No idea. And not sure if it even is worth the price. link: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Google-Nexus-5-Motherboard/IF293-004-1
Edit 2: Aand they are out of stock.
Edit 3: You could try also to find slightly damaged n5 with working mobo but again need to think is it worth is and such. Could try also to sell the parts you didn't use from it.
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thanks for the advice, I removed the connector like once but gently. Our battery connector (N5) is super cheap. and reconnecting is possible with good soldering equipment, which would be better since that is the only issue. and I don't have money for anything now so I can try solder or buy another board.
or sell it for parts which might be the case for me.

New Official Samsung Battery Won't Charge Properly

I recently purchased a official Samsung Spare Battery for my N910C via a UK based online retailer. However I am having problems getting it to charge properly using fast charging. I've tried a couple of different battery calibration methods that I've found online.
Drain the battery fully then charge it and repeat the process 2 more times.
Drain the battery fully then charge it. After it's charged fully turn it on and you should notice that it's not fully charged. Plug it back into the charge and let it complete charging while the device is powered on. Then reboot the device and repeat the previous step if need.
But both of these methods don't work. Can somebody provide me with a walkthrough on how to correctly configure my new battery please?

DarkGuyver said:
I recently purchased a official Samsung Spare Battery for my N910C via a UK based online retailer. However I am having problems getting it to charge properly using fast charging.
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I bought my replacement a couple of months ago directly from Samsung UK. Are you sure what you got is a genuine Samsung? There are so many convincing fakes about, which is why I went directly to the source to make sure I got the real thing. It cost a bit more, but worth it. Mine charged to 100% first time, and has been great ever since (6+ hours SoT). I never use fast charging though, always wireless charging. However, I did charge via USB the first three times, and two of those were from 0-100%. That's the only calibration I had to do. I would suggest avoiding fast charging for the first few charges (no scientific evidence for that, just my own opinion).
Other than what you have described though, I don't know of any other way of calibrating... this is essentially what I did "Use the phone until the battery goes to zero and the phone turns off. Do not turn it on. Plug in the charger and charge it to 100%. Drain the battery again and then charge it to 100%".

Kinsman-UK said:
Other than what you have described though, I don't know of any other way of calibrating... this is essentially what I did "Use the phone until the battery goes to zero and the phone turns off. Do not turn it on. Plug in the charger and charge it to 100%. Drain the battery again and then charge it to 100%".
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I would have gotten mine directly from Samsung too but they are current out of stock of the Note 4 batteries. I tried to calibrate it again but no joy. So I filled it a RMA form on the retailer's site and couriered it back to them for a replacement. Hopefully I just got a faulty battery.

DarkGuyver said:
I would have gotten mine directly from Samsung too but they are current out of stock of the Note 4 batteries. I tried to calibrate it again but no joy. So I filled it a RMA form on the retailer's site and couriered it back to them for a replacement. Hopefully I just got a faulty battery.
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Can highly recommend Anker if you have no luck with your replacement. Also PolarCell seem to have a good reputation - bit harder to get though: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UQPU2V6

there is a good chance that you got a fake battery.

Anker success story on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/4zfrbv/fixed_a_ton_of_issues_with_a_new_battery_2_oem/

I ordered a battery and got a fake one, it didn't have the NFC coils in it (you can visibly see that there was no raised section where the NFC coils sit, and also NFC wasn't able to scan or detect anything). It also didn't have the water damage sticker present.
I returned it and bought from another vendor, new battery works great and definitely has the proper NFC coils.

Levistras said:
I ordered a battery and got a fake one, it didn't have the NFC coils in it (you can visibly see that there was no raised section where the NFC coils sit, and also NFC wasn't able to scan or detect anything). It also didn't have the water damage sticker present.
I returned it and bought from another vendor, new battery works great and definitely has the proper NFC coils.
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The faulty one that I got was also a Genuine Samsung Battery with the NFC coil and everything, I'm waiting for the retailer to send me a replacement unit.

Ok, so my replacement battery arrived yesterday. I got it to charge fully last night before I went to sleep. I drained it today and tried charging it but it stopped charging at 81%. I was just wondering is this because I was sent a official UK N910F Battery which is not compatible with my UAE N910C? Is that the reason why my replacement spare battery won't charge properly on my N910C?

DarkGuyver said:
Ok, so my replacement battery arrived yesterday. I got it to charge fully last night before I went to sleep. I drained it today and tried charging it but it stopped charging at 81%. I was just wondering is this because I was sent a official UK N910F Battery which is not compatible with my UAE N910C? Is that the reason why my replacement spare battery won't charge properly on my N910C?
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This is a problem many people are having, I have searched the net extensively trying to find a solution, but no luck. I believe it started happening on one of the updates to 6.0.1. The only sure fire way to get your battery to charge fully is charge it until it stops charging (usually around 78-92%) then take the battery out and hold the power button down for a while then put the battery back in. It will usually jump to ~96% and will charge to 100%.
If you drain the battery below ~80% the same thing will happen. If you charge it before it gets down to ~80% it will charge fully. Sometimes you will need to unplug the charger and plug it in again to get it to charge. Hopefully they will fix this in the next update. This last update finally fixed the random boots for me. Before that I had to flash the ROM or do a factory reset about every 10 days.

toby6570 said:
This is a problem many people are having, I have searched the net extensively trying to find a solution, but no luck. I believe it started happening on one of the updates to 6.0.1. The only sure fire way to get your battery to charge fully is charge it until it stops charging (usually around 78-92%) then take the battery out and hold the power button down for a while then put the battery back in. It will usually jump to ~96% and will charge to 100%.
If you drain the battery below ~80% the same thing will happen. If you charge it before it gets down to ~80% it will charge fully. Sometimes you will need to unplug the charger and plug it in again to get it to charge. Hopefully they will fix this in the next update. This last update finally fixed the random boots for me. Before that I had to flash the ROM or do a factory reset about every 10 days.
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What I find strange is that I don't have the same problem with the battery that came with my N910C. It just happens with the new spare battery that I ordered online!

DarkGuyver said:
What I find strange is that I don't have the same problem with the battery that came with my N910C. It just happens with the new spare battery that I ordered online!
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Yes, the same thing happened to me. It would only do it with the new spare battery, but not the original. I thought the new battery was bad and thought about sending it back, but then the original battery started doing it after a few swaps also. I've bought two more spare batteries and they do it as well. I have a couple of cradles I keep plugged into the wall and usually just swap batteries when it gets low, but it gets to be a bit of a hassle as I have a defender case. Hopefully it will get fixed in the next update. Hard to believe that I have 4 bad batteries, but I guess it's possible.
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I think I will try buying some Anker batteries and see if they work better. I've been buying the "New Original OEM Samsung" batteries from ebay. I just read a review about the Anker batteries on ebay and it said the "OEM replacement batteries would only charge to 90% and he thought it was his phone, but the Anker batteries last all day now." They cost a lot more, but it will be worth it if it gets rid of this annoying problem. I will post a follow up after I get them and let you know how it goes.

I'm having the same problem. Are there any batteries that are decent quality from Ebay or Aliexpress? It's all I have to choose from unfortunately. Luckily the seller is sending me a new battery but I'm afraid I'll just get more rubbish

Same thing happens with me.. the battery will just not show the precentage properly.
But what i have noticed is that when it gets to around the 80% mark and you seen it takin longer than usual to finish... take the battery out and insert it again.. it will then show up at 100% charged.
What I have also noticed is that when it gets to 15%, the power starts to drain faster than it should even in ultra power save mode.
so dont know what to do.

stephendt0 said:
I'm having the same problem. Are there any batteries that are decent quality from Ebay or Aliexpress? It's all I have to choose from unfortunately. Luckily the seller is sending me a new battery but I'm afraid I'll just get more rubbish
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Yes, they sell Anker batteries on ebay. I bought mine directly from Anker though.

toby6570 said:
Yes, the same thing happened to me. It would only do it with the new spare battery, but not the original. I thought the new battery was bad and thought about sending it back, but then the original battery started doing it after a few swaps also. I've bought two more spare batteries and they do it as well. I have a couple of cradles I keep plugged into the wall and usually just swap batteries when it gets low, but it gets to be a bit of a hassle as I have a defender case. Hopefully it will get fixed in the next update. Hard to believe that I have 4 bad batteries, but I guess it's possible.
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My problem is that the new spare battery is not charging fully. I don't have problems when using my N910C and the battery meter acting irratic.

toby6570 said:
Yes, they sell Anker batteries on ebay. I bought mine directly from Anker though.
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Sadly, the only Anker batteries I see are shipping from Canada, which is too pricey to get to Aus. Another one here is X Power, but they do look a bit rubbish... 5600mah my a**, and I doubt it has NFC

stephendt0 said:
Sadly, the only Anker batteries I see are shipping from Canada, which is too pricey to get to Aus. Another one here is X Power, but they do look a bit rubbish... 5600mah my a**, and I doubt it has NFC
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Try going to anker.com and see how much shipping from there is. I couldn't find any shipping rates, but I saw their warranty which says they will "take care of all quality-related issues with a FULL REFUND including any return shipping costs" for orders shipped internationally. You may have to make an account and put it in your cart to see how much shipping is or you can just email them. They also have Anker batteries on Amazon.
They are located in California and I'm in Washington state so hopefully I should get them soon and I will report back here if it fixes the problem. I sure hope it does because the phone is finally working pretty good except for this problem.

toby6570 said:
Try going to anker.com and see how much shipping from there is. I couldn't find any shipping rates, but I saw their warranty which says they will "take care of all quality-related issues with a FULL REFUND including any return shipping costs" for orders shipped internationally. You may have to make an account and put it in your cart to see how much shipping is or you can just email them. They also have Anker batteries on Amazon.
They are located in California and I'm in Washington state so hopefully I should get them soon and I will report back here if it fixes the problem. I sure hope it does because the phone is finally working pretty good except for this problem.
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They do everything through Amazon and it's unavailable...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PTVUWR...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B00PTVUWRQ

stephendt0 said:
They do everything through Amazon and it's unavailable...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PTVUWR...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B00PTVUWRQ
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I found this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-3220mA...QQA0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473638501&sr=8-1
They might ship through Amazon, but you can order them at their site.

MI4C Battery Replacement: Where to buy?

Hello there I think my battery is damaged, becouse my phone switches off with 5-15% left (so i do calibrate, but doesnt help) and when I charge it, the charging starts from 14% instead of with 0.
So I decided to replace my battery. I know that I have to the BM-35 But where can i buy and get really a original?
I found this some on ebay and aliexpress, but i am not allowed to post here....
For exeample i found one on aliexpress with a cooling copper, is that usefull?
Thanks in advance for your Help.

Only on dragon-tt I've found original parts of xiaomi phones...
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Hello, I have exactly same problem! Same percentage, turns off at ~13-15%, then if I plug to charge it shows 14% everytime! I would also know if it's battery or something more related. I'm using mi4c for ~7 months now. Glad i'm not alone with this problem.

Which Rom?
Which Rom you use and do have only use your quickcharger (the original)?
Edit: I ask about the charger, because i read in anohter forum, that the quickcharge isnt good for the battery lifetime. I have the phone for more than a year and use the quickcharger only for every third or fourh charging. Do you use everytime?

asurus said:
Which Rom you use and do have only use your quickcharger (the original)?
Edit: I ask about the charger, because i read in anohter forum, that the quickcharge isnt good for the battery lifetime. I have the phone for more than a year and use the quickcharger only for every third or fourh charging. Do you use everytime?
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Yes, used original quick charger, and USB. Using Ressurection Remix 5.8.0 (7.1 Nougat), but was getting problem with MIUI too, but shut down at 7%, and start charging at 21%, i think it may be software problem.

I'm not sure whether it is a software problem. I have for last month the rom from team superluminal ( cm-12.1-20160617 ) and have never battery problems - only since the last 2 weeks. So i updated to the rom cm-13.1-20161231 (also superluminal) and the first round with a full battery works fine, no switch off at a low battery level. I work on the phone until it has only 3 percent and then i charged it. Maybe you try this rom? Nevertheless i think isn't a software problem. Because I read this at the forum from superluminal (sry i am not allowed to link here) - posted by morphic:
IMO using quick charger w/ mi4c it will destroy your battery even more, because it seems to get too hot while charging. High temperatures are known to cause damage for battery internal chemistry..
I have also noticed that using normal “slow” charger will make mi4c battery percentage to behave more sane.
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Sooner or later i will buy a new battery

asurus said:
I'm not sure whether it is a software problem. I have for last month the rom from team superluminal ( cm-12.1-20160617 ) and have never battery problems - only since the last 2 weeks. So i updated to the rom cm-13.1-20161231 (also superluminal) and the first round with a full battery works fine, no switch off at a low battery level. I work on the phone until it has only 3 percent and i charged it. Maybe you try this rom? Nevertheless i think isn't a software problem. Because I read this at the forum from superluminal (sry i am not allowed to link here) - posted by morphic:
Sooner or later i will buy a new battery
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Used this rom. I think the same, I'm going to buy battery and try to keep it cool while charging. If you know some cheap websites for Europe, thank you!

I have orded from aliexpress, you can find some between 10 -15 Euro. Or ebay, there is a trader from spain and want about 20 Euro.

asurus said:
I have orded from aliexpress, you can find some between 10 -15 Euro. Or ebay, there is a trader from spain and want about 20 Euro.
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I think I would go for ali, i can wait 2-3 weeks for me, no big deal, I have power bank, but annoying, that it just shut's off. Thanks! Glad we are not alone with the same problem

itsignas said:
I think I would go for ali, i can wait 2-3 weeks for me, no big deal, I have power bank, but annoying, that it just shut's off. Thanks! Glad we are not alone with the same problem
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is that original battery?

IcyGlacial said:
is that original battery?
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I don't know if ali has leggit batteries, but look fine

IcyGlacial said:
is that original battery?
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100 percent sure you could never I remember a case about fake samsung battery - selled from amazon.

Tried to get a replacement battery from the biggest seller of them on aliexpress. Got stopped twice at custom x-ray with post nl . Was getting it shipped to Ireland. Seller is refunding me and told me it was getting very hard to ship batteries at the moment.

asurus said:
100 percent sure you could never I remember a case about fake samsung battery - selled from amazon.
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Not like Xiaomi uses top bin batteries in the first place. They wouldn't bother faking the bottom bin batteries Xiaomi uses.

there are no original ones as spare parts to buy. just replacements
I've bought one off aliexpress from a seller with biggest positive feedback for BM35 batteries as my original was switching off at about 30%, used for about three months, but it's not very good now - it doesn't hold charge very well and I have had random shutdowns at about 20%, too.
Last weekend I've got annoyed and put my old original BM35 back and the phone holding significantly longer with similar patterns of usage. Unfortunately still getting shutdowns at ~15-20%. Also there are rumours claiming that avoiding QC chargers "cures" the battery in mi4c. So, if you're getting shutdowns at 5-15%, don't even bother spending 10$ for a non-original one, try slow charging first.

adamuadamu said:
Also there are rumours claiming that avoiding QC chargers "cures" the battery in mi4c. So, if you're getting shutdowns at 5-15%, don't even bother spending 10$ for a non-original one, try slow charging first.
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Slow charging, works for me

asurus said:
Slow charging, works for me
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could you tell us what kind of charger do you use? what power, ie. how many amperes?

I use two different Samsung Charger with: 1) 5Volt / 1A 2) 5Volt / 2A

I have the same problem where my device shut down early before 0%, and it happen to all custom rom i used, but i think the problem has gone now, i did clear all the chace and dalvik/ART, reboot the phone, charge untill 100% and calibrate with battery calibration.
I'm on RR 5.8.0 latest build.

Just got the battery the poster is talking about, with a copper patch. its from a batch marked with the year 2014. The S/N is covered with the copper patch.
the battery cover plastic seems a bit scratched, like its a used battery.
I will replace the battery in the next couple of days and let you know.
For the mean time I got it for 11.5$, now its 14.5$

phone shutting off around 15-30% power without warning

it's an older phone at this point. maybe it's losing power faster than it can figure it out? hopefully one of you out there knows a fix for this. thx

juntjoo said:
it's an older phone at this point. maybe it's losing power faster than it can figure it out? hopefully one of you out there knows a fix for this. thx
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The G5 isn't THAT old, geez.
Anyway, my V20 was doing this, and it was just a ****ed up battery, misreporting it's percentages.
You can also try to do the battery stats cleaners if you are rooted, but I don't know if those even work anymore.
What I would recommend, is let the battery die, then charge it with a 900mah charger.(Something from an older phone) and let it sit without touching it.
Sometimes letting it charge with the slower chargers helps get it back to life

Silentwidow said:
The G5 isn't THAT old, geez.
Anyway, my V20 was doing this, and it was just a ****ed up battery, misreporting it's percentages.
You can also try to do the battery stats cleaners if you are rooted, but I don't know if those even work anymore.
What I would recommend, is let the battery die, then charge it with a 900mah charger.(Something from an older phone) and let it sit without touching it.
Sometimes letting it charge with the slower chargers helps get it back to life
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thanks. I may try that. though i charge my batterIES in an external charger that I guess is standard speed. definitely not as fast as charging by phone itself

juntjoo said:
it's an older phone at this point. maybe it's losing power faster than it can figure it out? hopefully one of you out there knows a fix for this. thx
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The rechargable battery is kaput. The fix is to replace the battery.

KelleyCook said:
The rechargable battery is kaput. The fix is to replace the battery.
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thanks. makes sense. I'll keep an eye on all three, see the differences.

The battery being kaput isn't exactly true I don't think. I have 3 different batteries and without fail at 15% it will tell me the battery is dead and it will then proceed to shut down. No bettery saver, just a black screen. Phone has been doing this since I got it. Stock rom or custom doesn't matter. Not sure if this is the right place to post, I have a H850.

juntjoo said:
it's an older phone at this point. maybe it's losing power faster than it can figure it out? hopefully one of you out there knows a fix for this. thx
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I have this problem and at 20_30 % gone.
I think that is something on kernel.
Can it solved???????????

Replace battery. Only sure way of isolating The issue

Phone shutting off at about 15-30% power without warning
This is the third phone I've had it was just replaced about 3 months ago I should say third replacement... Gets really hot messes up here in there... Recently I updated with the new 8.0 software... Now my battery cuts out at about 24% like clockwork so I replaced it with a new factory battery bought a T-Mobile for too much money... And it does the exact same thing... The bloody unit used to be able to do maps I could text and do other stuff at the same time and it would last you know for a while now if I do maps and a couple of emails or mean or text it's dead within an hour dot-dot-dot all since I've gotten that new 8.0 software

juntjoo said:
it's an older phone at this point. maybe it's losing power faster than it can figure it out? hopefully one of you out there knows a fix for this. thx
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Definitely get a new battery, I had 2 batteries for my phone and both were doing that, ordered a new one off Amazon and it drained all the way to 1%

bodom_hc said:
Definitely get a new battery, I had 2 batteries for my phone and both were doing that, ordered a new one off Amazon and it drained all the way to 1%
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I'll second this. My main battery did start to swell a little besides the sudden shutdown at 15%. I also know that this swelling can eventually cause the fingerprint sensor to malfunction. Beware. Anyhow, I decided to use the "almost dead" battery to game for long hours while charging (PUBG). My healthy new battery was used for normal usage besides gaming. Hope this helps!