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hello
I'm trying to decide which large screened phone to purchase
Huawei P8 max
Letv le max x900
the p8 max has a bigger screen but I am not sure if the letv has a better screen?
also I am not concerned about the size or the 4g connectivity, I wish to know which phone is better with regard to snappiness launching apps and 'multitasking'
which phone has a better sense of 'future proofing' as much as one could say future proofing...
and which phone is just better phone in other aspects?
I would like to hear your opinions please
oh forgot to mention does anyone know which one has a better loudspeaker, I like to listen to music with the loudspeaker (the one at the bottom)
thank you very much!
- Emmanuel
emmanuelw said:
hello
I'm trying to decide which large screened phone to purchase
Huawei P8 max
Letv le max x900
the p8 max has a bigger screen but I am not sure if the letv has a better screen?
also I am not concerned about the size or the 4g connectivity, I wish to know which phone is better with regard to snappiness launching apps and 'multitasking'
which phone has a better sense of 'future proofing' as much as one could say future proofing...
and which phone is just better phone in other aspects?
I would like to hear your opinions please
oh forgot to mention does anyone know which one has a better loudspeaker, I like to listen to music with the loudspeaker (the one at the bottom)
thank you very much!
- Emmanuel
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Be patient & buy the LeMax Pro; build-wise it's quite similar to the x900, but it's using the SD820 cpu which is an entirely different class compared to the overheating SD810.
Listen to adwinp!
Wait for the Le Max Pro, before deciding.
I have the Le Max and P8Max and Mate 8 (Mate 8 is NOT worth the upgrade (IMHO) from the 7/S or P8Max and mine will be sold in the next couple days)
If specs are what you're looking for Le Max wins on paper, if you can't wait for the Le Max Pro.
If camera is the selling point, P8max has a brilliant camera (IMHO better than the mate 8 in low light and auto focus mode is faster) and its better (IMHO) than the Le Max which has a decent camera, which struggles with auto focus, and low light. Don't be fooled by 21MP vs 13MP...or ultra pixel...It sounds good but its not.
If connectivity is your thing...the LeMax will connect to 5g Wifi, the P8Max struggles and 9/10 times won't.
Speakers, P8Max, cleaner sound at high volumes.
Overall speed, about the same really. Where the P8Max can freeze during gaming its few and far between and depends on the gaming...
If custom ROMs are your thing, Le Max has the better support community and it seems to be growing.
If screen size is your thing, its tough to say. Tied. While the 2k screen is nice on the Le Max, the p8max has a brilliant 6.8" screen
If storage is your thing, P8Max Simple. While 128GB is nice on the Le Max. That's it that's all. But even better than that is the 64GB and the ability to add a 200GB sd card. I have a 200GB card in my 703L and their are no issues.
If security is your thing, They are both Chinese phones so while the Le Max and Le Max pro have fingerprint
If build quality is your thing, both quality builds, but the edge goes to the P8Max, its cleaner and well built.
If future support is your thing, Le Max. It has the community support behind it.
I'll say this. While I have been harsh on the P8Max, I would not part with this phone. The Le Max already has me wanting the Le Max pro. Huawei has the screen size right and a 2k screen with 6GB, Mali 880 MP GPU, Kirin 8+1 follow up is the hope and dream... the P8Max screen is just perfect in size. I just prefer it to all others, as I read a ton for work.
The Le Max Pro is going to be a monster of a phone. So if you can wait for that, and are leaning towards the Le Max. Wait.
At the end of it all, you cannot go wrong with what you are picking, its your call, just understand that all phones have their pros and cons. These two are no different.
Good luck.
Cheers.
Excellent pertinent comparison, @TheTruthSeeker. What do you do for a living?
@emmanuelw - I've been changing phones every ~6 months or so for the better part of my smartphone consumer years since the HTC Diamond Touch (yes I know, I'm ashamed, I was a Windows Mobile user). HTC, Sony, Huawei, ... you name it - I've owned most flagships.
Here's my experience with the device so far:
1: really good all-around build quality - metal + glass. Neither scratch easily (I do not use a phone case or screen protector).
2: huge screen - I wanted to see whether this would blur the line between a smartphone & tablet, as I've been using the latter for most of my multimedia needs (video, gaming).
The device sports one of the best screen-to-body ratios I've seen - one of the reasons I stopped liking HTCs after the original One/m7.
Anyway, watching, playing, reading feels really nice on such a huge screen & I've been reaching less & less for my tablet as it is. Doesn't seem to be too much of a battery sucker at low brightnesses but you feel the drain at higher brightness levels. I'm a 5ft9" guy & usually use the device with 2 hands; 6.8" is a bit too big - 6.2"-6.3" seems to be the sweet spot for me.
3: GPS - gets a fix fast & is usually reliable. Never really had an issue with it.
4: WIFI - as mentioned, won't connect to 5GHz, but 2.4GHz is OK, as are the speeds. No dropouts & doesn't take its toll on the battery. Range capture is OK, nothing to write home about.
5: Audio - one of the low points - if you have good earphones or headphones, the built-in DAC might make up for the crappy device audio. Speaker audio is downright horrible by today's standards.
Best I've experienced are of course HTC, & Sony.
6: Storage - I have the 64Gb + external 128Gb microsd Samsung EVO+. I am installing games with huge space requirements (Final Fantasy, emulators & their ISOs), lots of downloads, lots of audio, & not once have I been nagged for space running low. Storage speed is nothing special, definitely not Samsung-fast.
7: Bluetooth - drops out once in a while, but I rarely really use it.
8: 3G/4G - usually stays connected to 4G in urban areas, but sometime stuggles with keeping a connection where other phones still have connectivity.
9: Camera - quality is OK with decent lighting, but struggles in low light - definitely worse than the LG G4.
10: Touch responsiveness - OK, but not great.
11: Battery life - as long as you're not running on high brighness, it really does offer great battery life.
Barely comes close to 2 days of heavy usage, despite what Huawei advertised.
11: software-wise - gets some updates once every month or so, but even at the dawn of Android N, still didn't receive the Marshmallow update.
Virtually zero community support due to spotty GPL compliance related to the released open source components. Definitely no developer support like in the case of Sony. Zero responsiveness to queries by global support. Rooting & customization will be your only salvation.
Usability - the heavily skinned interface takes some getting used to it but nothing alternative apps can't remedy to. The phone itself is quite responsive, with support for most software features. Doesn't have NFC, but not an issue for me. Some built-in features are really useful, like the permission manager & background app monitor, but both are now a standard in android 6.0.
12: performance - you must keep in mind that the P8max is really a mid-ranger. You might encounter rare initial lags with demanding, big apps or games, but the regular mortal you will rarely feel it.
It all boils down to your needs - what are you looking for in a phone?
The snapdragon platform is mature - will provide excellent performance & compatibility, good battery life (especially on the 16nm FinFET process) & should have plenty of developer/community support. The Huawei Kirin platform is not there yet. I was hoping for changes due to advent of the Nexus 6P, but they used a SD810 instead of a Kirin.
Keep in mind that the Kirin935 in the P8max is an aging platform, but prices should drop in accordance.
Are you a power user - if yes, go for Snapdragon, or for Exynos, but I'd really go for Snapdragon. Mediatek is not there yet.
Are you a mere mortal, looking for regular performance from your phone (save for the big screen) - you can bet on any of them.
I'd really go for the LeMax Pro though, unless other manufacturers announce 6"+ devices (I'm looking forward to a Sony Ultra this year). The Kirin935 & SD810 are a thing of the past now.
Again - what are YOU looking for?
first thank you adwinp and TheTruthSeeker
I will definitely heed to your advice and be patient for now see what comes next
I am leaning more towards the LE Max as future support is important for me I don't change phones often
I also desire to have a phone with a good internal speaker sound but then I guess the new le max will have the same speaker as the older one which I understand is only mediocre in quality...
I do use the phone to play music with sheet music on the go so I look at musical notes on the screen which have to be large and listen through the speaker
at the moment I have a small nexus 4 phone so even the 6.3 inch would be an upgrade screen wise but I am not sure if the speaker on the le max is better than the one on my current nexus 4 I can't find any details on the speaker of the le max...
my main concerns are
- good sound and good LARGE screen above 6 inch
- good support updates and preparation for future (as much as possible)
- smoothness of operation the least amount of lag when launching apps and multitasking (I don't do games though)
one of you mentioned some touch problems with the screen I think, this concerns me as I have such problems in my nexus 4 and they annoy me a lot
I listened to some music on the internal speaker of my cousin's lg g4 phone and was quite impressed with the quality, do any of these phones can compare with the quality of sound of the lg g4?
what other phones are to be waiting for this year, the le max pro the maybe p9 max but is the z6 ultra going to be better than any of these for my needs?
or any other phone you know off bigger than 6 inch?
thank you again!
- Emmanuel
After my Tour to Android and P8Max I would only take a Snapdragon device if u plan to have it longer and want Updates and Roms!
I think the Sony Ultra modell this yeah will be your best choice, I will sell my P8max too if the Specc are good!
thank you Hirs_E_Fruit, why do you think the sony would be better than theLE Max? and another issue is how do we know if sony is actually going to release a z6 ultra, and last are there any other upcoming phones larger than 6 inch?
I think because Sony will sell it worldwide officially so there will be a larger base of community. Rumours suggest there will be 4 Versions of the z6, lets hope its true.
P9max but i would not recommend it anymore.
emmanuelw said:
first thank you adwinp and TheTruthSeeker
thank you again!
- Emmanuel
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TheTruthSeeker said:
Wait for the Le Max Pro, before deciding.
Cheers.
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@ Truthseeker: How is the refresh/frame rate on the p8max? I heard it leaves trails, which I find odd. How are the colors/blacks and what about the sharpness (count pixels easily?) Last but not least, is the speaker of good quality? Cheers :good:
adwinp said:
Excellent pertinent comparison, @TheTruthSeeker. What do you do for a living?
@emmanuelw - I've been changing phones every ~6 months or so for the better part of my smartphone consumer years since the HTC Diamond Touch (yes I know, I'm ashamed, I was a Windows Mobile user). HTC, Sony, Huawei, ... you name it - I've owned most flagships.
Here's my experience with the device so far:
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@ adwinp: How is the refresh/frame rate on the p8max? I heard it leaves trails, which I find odd. How are the colors/blacks and what about the sharpness (count pixels easily?) You're the only one who said that the speaker is horrible, strange.
adwinp said:
Excellent pertinent comparison, @TheTruthSeeker. What do you do for a living?
@emmanuelw - I've been changing phones every ~6 months or so for the better part of my smartphone consumer years since the HTC Diamond Touch (yes I know, I'm ashamed, I was a Windows Mobile user). HTC, Sony, Huawei, ... you name it - I've owned most flagships.
Here's my experience with the device so far:
1: really good all-around build quality - metal + glass. Neither scratch easily (I do not use a phone case or screen protector).
2: huge screen - I wanted to see whether this would blur the line between a smartphone & tablet, as I've been using the latter for most of my multimedia needs (video, gaming).
The device sports one of the best screen-to-body ratios I've seen - one of the reasons I stopped liking HTCs after the original One/m7.
Anyway, watching, playing, reading feels really nice on such a huge screen & I've been reaching less & less for my tablet as it is. Doesn't seem to be too much of a battery sucker at low brightnesses but you feel the drain at higher brightness levels. I'm a 5ft9" guy & usually use the device with 2 hands; 6.8" is a bit too big - 6.2"-6.3" seems to be the sweet spot for me.
3: GPS - gets a fix fast & is usually reliable. Never really had an issue with it.
4: WIFI - as mentioned, won't connect to 5GHz, but 2.4GHz is OK, as are the speeds. No dropouts & doesn't take its toll on the battery. Range capture is OK, nothing to write home about.
5: Audio - one of the low points - if you have good earphones or headphones, the built-in DAC might make up for the crappy device audio. Speaker audio is downright horrible by today's standards.
Best I've experienced are of course HTC, & Sony.
6: Storage - I have the 64Gb + external 128Gb microsd Samsung EVO+. I am installing games with huge space requirements (Final Fantasy, emulators & their ISOs), lots of downloads, lots of audio, & not once have I been nagged for space running low. Storage speed is nothing special, definitely not Samsung-fast.
7: Bluetooth - drops out once in a while, but I rarely really use it.
8: 3G/4G - usually stays connected to 4G in urban areas, but sometime stuggles with keeping a connection where other phones still have connectivity.
9: Camera - quality is OK with decent lighting, but struggles in low light - definitely worse than the LG G4.
10: Touch responsiveness - OK, but not great.
11: Battery life - as long as you're not running on high brighness, it really does offer great battery life.
Barely comes close to 2 days of heavy usage, despite what Huawei advertised.
11: software-wise - gets some updates once every month or so, but even at the dawn of Android N, still didn't receive the Marshmallow update.
Virtually zero community support due to spotty GPL compliance related to the released open source components. Definitely no developer support like in the case of Sony. Zero responsiveness to queries by global support. Rooting & customization will be your only salvation.
Usability - the heavily skinned interface takes some getting used to it but nothing alternative apps can't remedy to. The phone itself is quite responsive, with support for most software features. Doesn't have NFC, but not an issue for me. Some built-in features are really useful, like the permission manager & background app monitor, but both are now a standard in android 6.0.
12: performance - you must keep in mind that the P8max is really a mid-ranger. You might encounter rare initial lags with demanding, big apps or games, but the regular mortal you will rarely feel it.
It all boils down to your needs - what are you looking for in a phone?
The snapdragon platform is mature - will provide excellent performance & compatibility, good battery life (especially on the 16nm FinFET process) & should have plenty of developer/community support. The Huawei Kirin platform is not there yet. I was hoping for changes due to advent of the Nexus 6P, but they used a SD810 instead of a Kirin.
Keep in mind that the Kirin935 in the P8max is an aging platform, but prices should drop in accordance.
Are you a power user - if yes, go for Snapdragon, or for Exynos, but I'd really go for Snapdragon. Mediatek is not there yet.
Are you a mere mortal, looking for regular performance from your phone (save for the big screen) - you can bet on any of them.
I'd really go for the LeMax Pro though, unless other manufacturers announce 6"+ devices (I'm looking forward to a Sony Ultra this year). The Kirin935 & SD810 are a thing of the past now.
Again - what are YOU looking for?
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@adwinp - Thank you for your kind words, I work in the social legal field but repair mobile devices and dab in ROM play here and there. Learning and by no means near a pro/amateur/etc.
I too swap devices regularly and have not held a flagship longer than a year since my blackberry 8800 back in the day! Way back lol.
A wealth of information in your post here, well said and done! Great post!!!
Cheers.
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@ Truthseeker: How is the refresh/frame rate on the p8max? I heard it leaves trails, which I find odd. How are the colors/blacks and what about the sharpness (count pixels easily?) Last but not least, is the speaker of good quality? Cheers :good:
@gideonMorrison In all honesty, everyday use NO trails or flashing (Everyday use being texts, emails, maybe two dots, chess, checking the weather and the like) but in memory intensive games (chaos rings 2, need for speed MW, 6 guns, anomaly 2, etc) you will notice trails, screen flashing, and (when the device heats up) dreadded laaaaag. It doesn't happen all the time, but often enough to realize this is a midrange phone NOT a flagship, premium device built to dominate from Huawei.
As for the speaker, its decent. It can play at high volumes with no considerable distortion. BUT, do they have the same sound quality of say a Blackberry passport or HTC boomsound, sadly no. But this is my humble opinion. You will enjoy the speaker while on speaker phone, watching youtube videos, etc. True audiophiles will look past the specs and agree that this is a good speaker with ok sound quality.
Hope this has helped.
Cheers!
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@adwinp - Thank you for your kind words, I work in the social legal field but repair mobile devices and dab in ROM play here and there. Learning and by no means near a pro/amateur/etc.
I too swap devices regularly and have not held a flagship longer than a year since my blackberry 8800 back in the day! Way back lol.
A wealth of information in your post here, well said and done! Great post!!!
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Cheers.
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gideonMorrison said:
@ Truthseeker: How is the refresh/frame rate on the p8max? I heard it leaves trails, which I find odd. How are the colors/blacks and what about the sharpness (count pixels easily?) Last but not least, is the speaker of good quality? Cheers :good:
@gideonMorrison In all honesty, everyday use NO trails or flashing (Everyday use being texts, emails, maybe two dots, chess, checking the weather and the like) but in memory intensive games (chaos rings 2, need for speed MW, 6 guns, anomaly 2, etc) you will notice trails, screen flashing, and (when the device heats up) dreadded laaaaag. It doesn't happen all the time, but often enough to realize this is a midrange phone NOT a flagship, premium device built to dominate from Huawei.
As for the speaker, its decent. It can play at high volumes with no considerable distortion. BUT, do they have the same sound quality of say a Blackberry passport or HTC boomsound, sadly no. But this is my humble opinion. You will enjoy the speaker while on speaker phone, watching youtube videos, etc. True audiophiles will look past the specs and agree that this is a good speaker with ok sound quality.
Hope this has helped.
Cheers!
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Thanks Truthseeker for your extensive reply :good: I remember my old Galaxy Nexus suffering from bad ghosting, which is years ago, but find it somehow hard to believe the Max has the same issue (in the year 2015, that is). Is it something a lot more phones suffer from, because it is a new-ish device and by now you'd think they won't make (old) mistakes anymore. I wonder if I would really really (while gaming/watching movies as well?) notice and be put off about it (trails/ghosting/flashing). Not entirely sure what you mean by flashing however
Good to hear about the speaker. My Alcatel Idol 3 had superb stereo speakers, but have a feeling this one isn't bad indeed.
i love google pixel design and camera, but now i'm confuse after razer phone show up, i'm using phone usually for light social media, gaming mostly and taking picure sometimes.
for google pixel 2 user here, i want to know, how is google pixel 2 gaming perfomance for moba game such as aov, is it smooth like the razer phone ? and how fps do you get when you change all setting to high.
thanks for anybody who will help me to decide.
peace.
The Pixel series aren't the fastest on the market; that being said, they aren't slouches, either. The Pixel 3 had one of the better cameras of the Pixel line, although the new Pixel 6 is a potential challenger. I can't speak much to gaming performance as I don't game, but my Pixel 2 worked great for social media and streaming video. I replaced it with a Pixel 5 two years ago.
A good way to compare gaming performance is simply use Google to search one device vs another. There's more than a few websites out there that compare the statistics of the phones as well as their performance.
Been a Samsung user since the the original note 3. I owned only OnePlus phone, aka OnePlus 1. It was fast back then and still is useable for me with custom rom. Now, current I own a note 5, I have it for almost 4 years now. Its getting slow even with a custom rom. There is not much support for the note 5 either, specially t mobile note 5. So my question is should I go with the Galaxy S10 plus or the OnePlus 7 Pro? S10 plus are listed for 750$ (8gb,128gb,unlocked). The OnePlus 7 Pro is also 750 unlocked with the best possible spec from OnePlus (256gb,12gb, unlocked). Money is not an issue for me to be honest, but I don't want to overpaid (weird). Which is better and your reason for choosing one over the other. Or .... Should I wait for the note 10? I know it's gonna be a beast :laugh:
honestly, I guess it comes down to personal preference.
i.e. Samsung is more feature packed but more locked down. OP is more dev friendly, if you'd like to play with modding and custom roms
Owning an s9+ for a couple of years, I enjoy some of the Samsung features, but could live without:
- water proofing - dunked the phone in water 3 times only: can't use the screen properly and that's a shame, also the speakers get muzzled and you get that annoying device is wet notification - better skip (the photos aren't that great either unless you're in a clear-water swimming pool)
- wireless charging - definitely cool feature, it's useful for me because I can charge the Iphone 8 with the same charger, but I use it mainly at night when placing the phone on the stand. It's too slow still. I definitely missed my OP5T charging speed when switching to Samsung, I literary changed charging habits with DASH
- micro-sd slot - never used it. I find popping out the tray to be an overkill. With cloud I don't see the point transferring videos (those are the storage eaters) over cable anymore. Or files for that mater. I use solid explorer and do my transfers via FTP server on my home wi-fi
- headphone jack - I guess I've used it only once. I find wired stuff cumbersome honestly and sacrificed some quality for comfort, even for home speakers. I listen to music everyday and it's nice to have two devices connect to the same headphones over BT
There's more to be discussed here, but you should really take a close look to your lifestyle, how your day goes by and match each device to that. You will certainly get your answer
OP7 PRO support HDMI or not like Samsung DEX ? If support i will buy one for sure couse will be best phone for me
I can not stand Samsung Bloatware, want Gmail does not matter here is Samsung Mail which you can not delete, want Chrome here is our Samsung browser, want Google Pay..... "Samsung Pay" .... etc.....
You will get Android 10, 2020 if you are lucky
And Samsung is still more expensive
Again it's personal preference.. I owned two oneplus devices before jumping to s10 plus..
Why samsung -
Features filled.
Water and dust proof
Not sure about custom roms support as I saw s9 and s8 has a tons of roms.. U have two options for roms one is oem rom another is aosp.. So when ur bored u can switch.
Headphone jack - Bluetooth doesn't support u always, the real master is headphone jack.
Better customer service world wide support.
Why oneplus
Strong dev support.. Still own 3T with rom support even after 3 years. Also the oneplus pushes updates till date.
Pricing - U get premium device for good deal..
Service center needs to be increased.
I'm really liking the new OnePlus 7 Pro, but I heard from the reviewers that with 90hz on, ur battery life won't last through a day. That refresh is one of the reasons I ant to buy the device. Been using 144hz monitor, so using phone with 60hz is not the best experience. I hope there will be more after market battery case, the current one for Oneplus device looks horrible. Custom is definitely a plus. To be honest the only reason for me to get s 10 or note 10 is good custom rom support, but right now, OnePlus 7 Pro looks so good to pass. With the cameras, I have to say still no where close to the pixel, but hope there will be a gcam version for it.
I have been using my op7p for a week now. Comparing to my gf s10 plus, I have to say the screen on the s10 plus is way over the 7pro, except the 90hz. Indoor usage, the brightness level for both phone is about the same; however, when it comes to using the phone under direct sunlight, the 7p falls behind. That the only thing I hope OnePlus will improve and the camera....., even my note 5 at max brightness is still usable under sun light. Everything else is great on the 7p. So worth it.
I still have both.
The ceramic S10 feels nicer in the hand and is noticeably easier to one-hand.
Always on display and wireless charging are big plusses
Both screens are great but if you pushed me I'd give the advantage to the Samsung.
I way prefer oxygen os over one UI, and there is a degree of comfort knowing you get the updates quicker, OP are very active in this regard
The OP7 pro is faster across the board at pretty much everything.
I find I get better and more reliable 4g and wifi performance on the OP. Starting to think my S10+ (exynos) may have something wrong with the radios.
YMMV
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I got rid of the OnePlus 7 Pro after 7 days of usage:
1. 90hz RR just disappears at most usages(there is a workaround using adb to enable 90 Hz RR but keeping at a fixed 90 Hz further dents on battery life).
2. The curves are rather deep (reminded me the curves of Galaxy s6 edge, s7 edge, s8+ that I didn't like)- my earlier Note 9 and current s10+'s less curvy & squarish design feel better to avoid accidental touches(& typing letters p, q, etc.) and reflection under artificial lighting conditions.
-3. Under sunlight, the s10+'s screen is way more legible. It's occasional to have such usage, but when it does , it does matter.
4. Like the notchless display, but at the cost of a pop-up camera that accumulates dust and debris in the compartment- that doesn't retract entirely by the time it touches ground dropping from a weist height/table is not something I appreciate.
5. It's heavy and big ,becomes uncomforfortable for my liking to talk for longer period of time. I was not happy with the weight of 512 gigs S10+ especially when talking for an hour or so daily, hence swapped to a 128 gigs version(175gms) that feels just right. At 206 gms+the weight of a case, I found the 7 Pro way more uncomfortable to use in 1 week of my of usage.
6. No IP rating counts. No company offers warranty for liquid damaged units even with IP rating but they do so bcoz they do not know how long the user kept in water- for 30 mins, 30 hours or for days, for 1 meter deep, 2 meters or was in salt water... But with an official IP rating it's a peace of mind. You can dunk a certified IP67/68 rated smartphone in a swimming pool without thinking twice but you can't with the 7 Pro with a fear of damaging it. For light rain or splash- 7 Pro is fine, so does most of the non-IP certified smartphones now a days with zero advertising of "bucket-test" by the manufacturer itself.I do not like a smartphone that often accumulates dust. To users like me, ingress protection matters.
7. Why have a glass back on when no wireless charging ? Probably even OnePlus does not know.
8. OOS 9.5.7 improved the camera but it still has focusing issues in low light and macro, and wide angle cam can't be used for video yet- These are nitpicky and might get resolved with future updates.
(OOS 9.5.8 is out but I couldn't get the chance to check it).
Overall the 7 Pro failed to impress me to be my daily driver even after having some strong "+ve" sides.
Virgo_Guy said:
I got rid of the OnePlus 7 Pro after 7 days of usage:
1. 90hz RR just disappears at most usages(there is a workaround using adb to enable 90 Hz RR but keeping at a fixed 90 Hz further dents on battery life).
2. The curves are rather deep (reminded me the curves of Galaxy s6 edge, s7 edge, s8+ that I didn't like)- my earlier Note 9 and current s10+'s less curvy & squarish design feel better to avoid accidental touches(& typing letters p, q, etc.) and reflection under artificial lighting conditions.
-3. Under sunlight, the s10+'s screen is way more legible. It's occasional to have such usage, but when it does , it does matter.
4. Like the notchless display, but at the cost of a pop-up camera that accumulates dust and debris in the compartment- that doesn't retract entirely by the time it touches ground dropping from a weist height/table is not something I appreciate.
5. It's heavy and big ,becomes uncomforfortable for my liking to talk for longer period of time. I was not happy with the weight of 512 gigs S10+ especially when talking for an hour or so daily, hence swapped to a 128 gigs version(175gms) that feels just right. At 206 gms+the weight of a case, I found the 7 Pro way more uncomfortable to use in 1 week of my of usage.
6. No IP rating counts. No company offers warranty for liquid damaged units even with IP rating but they do so bcoz they do not know how long the user kept in water- for 30 mins, 30 hours or for days, for 1 meter deep, 2 meters or was in salt water... But with an official IP rating it's a peace of mind. You can dunk a certified IP67/68 rated smartphone in a swimming pool without thinking twice but you can't with the 7 Pro with a fear of damaging it. For light rain or splash- 7 Pro is fine, so does most of the non-IP certified smartphones now a days with zero advertising of "bucket-test" by the manufacturer itself.I do not like a smartphone that often accumulates dust. To users like me, ingress protection matters.
7. Why have a glass back on when no wireless charging ? Probably even OnePlus does not know.
8. OOS 9.5.7 improved the camera but it still has focusing issues in low light and macro, and wide angle cam can't be used for video yet- These are nitpicky and might get resolved with future updates.
(OOS 9.5.8 is out but I couldn't get the chance to check it).
Overall the 7 Pro failed to impress me to be my daily driver even after having some strong "+ve" sides.
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First world problems lol. Most of your cons are personal preference and also based on aesthetics. Only thing i can agree with slightly is the wireless charging. It wouldn't make sense to get wireless charging that gets you full battery in 2.5 or 3 hours over warp charge in an hour or less(?). Camera is OK, i'll take the 7 pro over the overly done beauty shot in selfie mode and over saturation on the s10. There also has been tests to see if the 7 Pro is water resistant, plenty of videos on youtube and insurance is optional on the phone which do cover drops, spills and cracks. Heaviness of the phone... i like it, better than the lightweight of the s10. Maybe the next one will impress ya.
Don't really care about the weight ? I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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Don't really care about the weight ? I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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Pro Weight lifter. Talk sometimes.
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Don't really care about the weight I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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One can easily find an international Samsung Galaxy S10+ within 50-60 dollars price difference. When you compare side-by-side (features, specifications, and aesthetics), S10+ beats OP7 Pro hands down. The biggest strength of OP branding was to provide customers speed at a reasonable price. With negligible price difference why would you even buy OP7 Pro?
Oh, did I mention the almost useless OP customer service? I could not get my OP6T repaired through OP d/t horrible customer service. I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.
If the OP7 Pro price was capped under $600, then the value proposition would have given OP7 an advantage. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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One can easily find an international Samsung Galaxy S10+ within 50-60 dollars price difference. When you compare side-by-side (features, specifications, and aesthetics), S10+ beats OP7 Pro hands down. The biggest strength of OP branding was to provide customers speed at a reasonable price. With negligible price difference why would you even buy OP7 Pro?
Oh, did I mention the almost useless OP customer service? I could not get my OP6T repaired through OP d/t horrible customer service. I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.
If the OP7 Pro price was capped under $600, then the value proposition would have given OP7 an advantage. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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Where I live the s10 plus is about the same price as the 12gb model op7p. I used student discount to buy the op7p so it is cheaper. Both are new and unclocked, but you get more ram storage higher refresh rate with the 7. The software is also better on the 7. Everytime I use a Samsung device, I have to flash custom rom to get the most out of it. Sometime, developer abandoned the project and the rom never get updated. The s10 plus beats the 7 outdoor visibility which I really wish the op7p would get to 1000 nits and the camera (opinion), depends on what you prefer. Samsung used to be great, beefy spec, newest technology, but they rather selling components to other companies to make more money than use it for their own products. If the note 10 comes with 90hz or higher, I would drop my money for it, but we all know too well that it won't. The question I asked before buying is why would I get 60hz? When the 90hz is way better. It's night and day difference.
I traded my 512gb S10 plus for the 12/256GB oneplus 7 pro and I think both phones are great. I think the only thing the s10 did better was to quickly adjust to the surrounding light. I often find myself adjusting the brightness level of my OP7P as it is often too dim and too slow to ramp up the nits. Other than that I'm quite happy with it. Until the Note 10 pro that is?
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First world problems lol. Most of your cons are personal preference and also based on aesthetics. Only thing i can agree with slightly is the wireless charging. It wouldn't make sense to get wireless charging that gets you full battery in 2.5 or 3 hours over warp charge in an hour or less(?). Camera is OK, i'll take the 7 pro over the overly done beauty shot in selfie mode and over saturation on the s10. There also has been tests to see if the 7 Pro is water resistant, plenty of videos on youtube and insurance is optional on the phone which do cover drops, spills and cracks. Heaviness of the phone... i like it, better than the lightweight of the s10. Maybe the next one will impress ya.
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Fast charging and wireless charging have nothing to do with one another, lol. The convenience if wireless charging is not having to plus something in. So much nicer to just set something down and let it charge. It's not meant to be a fast wireless charger. If u wanted to charge faster, I'd plug it in, lol. Like the Huawei. It's got wireless charging and fast wired. Two separate solutions for two separate problems. One doesn't trump the other. The Galaxy phones have a quick wired charging so it's not super slow if you needed some juice. But the OnePlus has NO (zilch, zero, nada) option for wireless charging.
I immediately eliminate any phone with a notch from my list. I thought thanks to new hole in display Samsung phones I would keep my note 9 until they release phones without which may not be for another 2 years. No thanks to 7 pro with its 6.7 inch no notch display I got the upgrade itch. Why anybody would buy a notched phone is beyond me. What a stupid idea. Imagine your TV having a notch . 7 pro out selling s10 in China and people have spoken.
Despite the speed of the processor and the fluidity of the 90 hz display, the 6GB OnePlus 7 Pro retains the same disastrous problem from it's predecessor - pathetic RAM management. The stock phone app hangs! Other apps hang too, but the hung phone app on a Rs.49,000 phone is unacceptable under any yardstick or scale.
Summary: A high end phone with a hung phone app is what the latest 6GB model of OnePlus 7 Pro is. None of the PVR cinema ads or online hype makes no mention of the reality that it cannot meet the bare minimum requirement of a smartphone - a working stock phone application. That's all this review is all about. If you don't have time, you can leave it here.
If you want the numbers continue reading. 85% of RAM is always used up, that is without opening a single RAM heavy app. Spoke to Amazon tech support and OnePlus support. All they could do is show me where to find the list of apps consuming the memory (which show average memory use over a period of time, not live data). I had to uninstall many essential apps (none of them are games or have heavy graphics) significantly reducing the value of my OnePlus device. Wonder why they don't show the live data? the RAM management that's shockingly bad. Installed 2 professional diagnostic tools to check (one of them advised by Amazon tech support) and the RAM used under below average load conditions was 85% (after uninstalling RAM heavy apps.) This probably has to do with overclocked processing. Flightradar24 is an app I cannot do without, as a frequent flyer. It's RAM heavy according to OnePlus. I now run it on a cheap backup from Xioami phone (which by the way costs 1/10 that of the OnePlus 7 Pro). Same with Uber, bank apps and financial market tracker apps, which did not have any problems running on my previous device - Samsung S10 plus. I gave it away. At least it was far lighter and reliable than OnePlus. Oh OnePlus has a fancy 90Hz display and fast fingerprint reader, the effects of which wear off in the 1st week of use. When reality dawns, half a lakh of cash is gone. The display or fingerprint reader cannot compensate for a hung phone app.
The conclusion is - the phone like a caged lion, struggles within the bars of it's limited RAM. It gives off the sensation of unreliability. The slippery smooth glass combined with the tablet-heavy phone reduces reliability further. It requires a minimum of 8GB, if not more in the long run.
The worse part is Oneplus cannot do anything. And Amazon cannot replace is as the stock apps getting stuck on account of insufficient RAM is a technical issue and not one that warrants a replacement of device. Again, OnePlus is not Samsung. BEWARE.
Batterylife? Forget 90 hz Even when kept at 60 hz fulltime it's lower than the exynos model of samsung gs10 plus. This is a fact, I KNOW because just before this Oneplus I used gs10 plus for three months in a raw.
Lemme tell about outdoor visibility :-- It plain SUCKS. Due to my job commitment I stay outdoors many a times. And I end up finding shades to see what's in the screen LMAO. It's 2019 for God's sake Oneplus. Poor minimal nits was intentional to keep batterylife in control is what oneplus did with the best of my thinking. No option to choose 90 hz in settings as it would eat up battery like an elephant drinking water. Oneplus already clarified that. More bigger battery means more height,width,length and weight than that it already is, so didn't. Very nice move.
The oneplus has a specific audience =>> college/highschool going students who love consuming media non- stop and happy playing PUBG and other games, keep in watching movies, browse social media, comment, recharge and repeat. Definitely does not look like made this keeping corporates in mind. I'm repenting for not doing enough research before buying this. Learnt a lesson and selling this in OLX. Forgive me who have read this far but did not like it at all for me not at all knowing how fast, no notch , yada yada great of a phone this oneplus is.
I had to decide between the s10+ and 7 pro as the 10+ was just 25$ more. I chose 7 pro because it was impossible for me to cope with the pill, I find it worse than a notch just because it has screen between it and the frame making it feel like a part of the image(an ugly part especially because the sky sits there if you watch stuff on it...)
Got a chance to own both devices (actually S10+, P30 Pro and OP7 Pro)
Oneplus 7 Pro (overall)
1. 90hz + QHD + Amoled display is the icing on the cake here.
2. The warp charging will definitely makes you think of choosing OP over S10 all day.
3. Superb gaming experience.
4. Battery life still good if not the best among flagship phones available today, I'm seriously getting 7hrs SOT with 90hz and QHD settings and that's more than enough for me given the fact that I can warp charge my 7 pro.
5. Completely full display (notchless/ no pinhole design).
S10 plus
1. Display brightness
2. Lightweight and easy to hold with one (1) hand.
3. Ip68 rating (its good to have this on the next oneplus)
4. 3.5mm jack
5. OneUI customization
6. Wireless charging is good to have but it's no use for me.
If I were to choose:
1. P30 Pro on top (very slight edge over the Oneplus 7 Pro)
2. Oneplus 7 pro
3. S10 plus
As I posted in another thread earlier today, even though this Pixel 4XL is a huge disappointment in many ways to me, I still will consider buying it to replace my Nexus 6 - which is still doing decent job for me.
Google has never given us bright display, and this XDA article analyzing Pixel 4 displays explains it pretty well -
My question is - anybody with Pixel 4XL -> have you been able to get high-brightness mode for regular [while outdoors] display? Anyone can try?
To me, the state of pretty much every Google-branded phone and display is a step-behind the leaders. Here, we've got Pixel 4XL with a last-generation display that is dimmer and takes more power than Samsung's latest. And then, Google disables the high-brightness (high-battery-drain) mode - so you can't see the display in bright sunlight. So competitors using the same last-generation display have brighter phones (and better battery life). For me, if I can't see the damn display, it doesn't matter what the battery life is - the phone is unusable for lots of things if you can't see the display.
Recommend reading Dylan Raga's entire article, but here my highlight, and just so sad that Google is so bad in this area:
The Pixel devices have historically been unimpressive when it comes to display brightness. This year is no different. While every other major smartphone maker has made their OLEDs significantly brighter, Google has shown little-to-no progress. Google did manage to increase its newest phones’ brightness this year, from about 400 nits up to 450 nits, but it still leaves them as some of the dimmest flagship smartphones in recent years.
Lack of high brightness mode
The reason Google is so far behind is that they are refusing to incorporate a higher-power brightness state for their system brightness. Furthermore, Google is using last-generation display panels that cannot compete in power efficiency or in rated brightness with Samsung’s latest panels. What’s interesting is that Google has had a higher brightness mode within their phones, which they can tap into during HDR playback (or with root). But for reasons likely related to battery, Google does not allow their phones to use this extra brightness for normal use. Higher brightness modes do require significantly more power to drive — an 800-nit peak brightness state drains significantly more power than twice that of a 400-nit brightness state — but if the competition is able to support higher brightness levels and maintain better battery life than the Pixel devices, then Google is severely falling behind in both departments.
When enabling high brightness mode within the Pixel 4s’, their displays approach acceptable levels of brightness. At 600 nits, this ranks the Google Pixel 4 displays competitively with last years’ OLEDs in brightness. But in 2019, 600 nits is about the baseline for every major smartphone company, while the best are pushing 800 nits (100% APL). These are simply the limits of Google’s outdated panels, as the same panels found in the Huawei Mate 30 Pro and the OnePlus 7 Pro push the same brightness levels — except those phones actually push those brightness levels in normal use.
I'm not sure why it's such a huge disappointment for you, but why would you consider getting it if you dislike it so much?
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I'm not sure why it's such a huge disappointment for you, but why would you consider getting it if you dislike it so much?
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Because there is no phone that has everything I want.
I will not get a phone I can't root - must have unlocked/unlockable bootloader.
I will not get a phone that won't have custom ROM/kernel devs.
So, what's left after those 2 requirements?
I really wanted Asus rog 2 but it's nice not having to front the money pretty happy with the pixel 4xl but hate I have to be vigelent on background processes to keep the battery life
And the screen is a bit dim for direct sunlight but not an issue most of the time
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Because there is no phone that has everything I want.
I will not get a phone I can't root - must have unlocked/unlockable bootloader.
I will not get a phone that won't have custom ROM/kernel devs.
So, what's left after those 2 requirements?
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Realme x2 pro, xiaomi mi 9t pro, both are flagship phones with 855 and unlockable bootloader's and plenty of development
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Realme x2 pro, xiaomi mi 9t pro, both are flagship phones with 855 and unlockable bootloader's and plenty of development
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Thanks for that reply.
As I live in a location where Google does not charge re-stocking fee (!) I decided to purchase the deals on the Pixel 4XL.
Then, I decided to also purchase a Pixel 3a XL.
The 4XL has arrived and I have been using it for about 24hrs. There's a huge difference in performance compared to the Nexus 6 - and probably will prefer Android 10 over earlier versions, BUT, there are a lot of things I don't like. And quite a bit shocked at how easily the phone breaks! The JerryRig youtube review shows how easily the phone snaps and breaks in four different places :crying:- here's a writeup with the video embedded at bottom of the page.
(I really enjoyed the video - here's Youtube link this guy has such a calming voice and dry witty humor, and makes a lot of good points about how awful a job Google really did - hinting cannabis may have played a part in Google's decisions - but certainly not a piece that's going to make Pixel 4xl owners feel good...)
I took some photos last night and they turned out horrible. In fact it was so bad I thought there might be some protective shipping plastic on the camera hump. But no, not the case. I guess I need to dig a little more to learn how to take a photo with the included camera app....
I did root the phone, but really super disappointed that /system remains mostly untouchable. And more than a bit annoyed that, if you start initial setup with a SIM installed, a bunch of SYSTEM carrier-bloatware apps are installed during the first-time setup! So you get junk (MyVerizon and more in my case) apps that you can't remove even with root! (This is not unique to this phone - it's Android 10 limitation as best I can tell.) I think this can be avoided if you do the initial setup without a SIM, and then disable the system app the enables this forced stuffing of carrier apps on your phone.
So, since I know I wouldn't want to keep this 4XL for >5 years like I did with the Nexus 6, and since I'd probably want to replace it before next year's hopefully better (although Google has consistently disappointed me ever since Nexus 6) Pixel design, I'm hoping that either the Pixel 3a XL will be 'good enough' or perhaps another of the rootable/dev-supported phones....
That said - there are some things I like or am impressed with -> the sound is pretty good considering the tiny holes - when I saw the holes, I thought no way this phone can have decent audio for music, but it's a lot better than I expected.
The screen is brighter than I expected as well - but I haven't tried it yet in direct sunlight.....
Nice thing about Google is they don't care if you root or unlock and warranty is still in tact. That with the advanced replacement option should there by any warranty issues makes this a no brainer for me.
I told a Google rep on chat the other day I was having an issue with the "oem unlocking" switch greyed out and that should not be the case since I ordered directly from the Google store - I told him I got the phone specifically for rooting and he didn't blink an eye
Hi guys. I bought an A52 4G for myself a few weeks ago and here is my brutally honest review. As you will see, there are some things I wasn't satisfied with but I needed a phone quickly and for my budget and availability, I thought I'd give Samsung a chance.
Pros
1. Lots of QoL services by Samsung like always on display and apps like Gallery by Samsung can be more useful than Photos by Google. I also mapped the double tap power button to start the flashlight.
2. The 720G chipset along with a 90hz display feels plenty powerful especially for those coming from an older midrange device. However, it's not as fast and instantaneous as stock Android or OxygenOS. Also, you will face lots of stutters and bugs if you enable animation to .5x. At default 1x, animations are too damn slow.
3. Stereo speakers. Sound quality is average though. I don't use it much so I don't care.
4. Water resistance. It's nice of Samsung to bring this feature to a midrange device.
5. The macro camera can be useful for taking pictures of very small items like coins. The selfie camera seems alright.
6. The display, despite having kind of inaccurate colors is actually a lot better looking than most Chinese brand (OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Realme, etc) phone displays. Most Chinese brand displays tend to have a washed out, pale look to them despite having high refresh rates.
7. Battery life is pretty decent. If you don't use it much, it'll last a couple days easily. Of course, battery will degrade over time so a few years later, you might need to change the battery or the phone itself.
Cons
1. Sound quality output through the 3.5mm jack is very bad. My previous phone (Moto G5s Plus) had a much better built-in DAC. But at least the jack is there so I guess it's better than nothing but I'd suggest you get a good type-c to 3.5mm converter and use that instead if you're looking for decent audio.
2. The display isn't bad (the 90hz is definitely an upgrade over 60hz) but the color calibration out of the box by Samsung is very inaccurate and kind of pale. You can switch to "vibrant" mode but it over saturates everything. The saturation is so off the charts that you have no choice but to go back to the pale "natural" mode. Also, the amoled screen can be fatiguing to your eyes. Not everyone faces this but personally I have this problem.
3. The charger provided is really weak. Sometimes I like to use my phone while it's charging. Sadly this charger is too weak to do that and can't keep up. I did have a faster charger from my previous budget moto phone and it does a much better job charging the A52. It would be better if Samsung didn't provide this crappy 15 watt charger and made the phone cheaper so I could buy a 25 watt charger myself. I don't see the logic in this. The phone supports 25 watt charging but Samsung includes a 15 watt charger in the box.
4. The lightly colored matte plastic back looks awesome in the beginning but with some mild use, the colors are already starting to fade and become yellowish. So put a case or skin on it if you wanna preserve that awesome color.
5. The colors and details of the main camera are not very good for an upper midrange device in 2021. I saw some reviews on YouTube with review units provided by Samsung that showed much better camera quality than what I'm getting with my retail unit. Especially after you take a picture, if you zoom in on a person's face for example, the details are just not there. Also, the colors are inaccurate and not life like. Hopefully, someone can make a good GCAM for this phone. Otherwise, expect to live with an average camera.
6. Random spammy apps like Dailyhunt get automatically installed every few days. I set all settings to not update anything automatically but it still does that. I even contacted customer care about this and they couldn't provide any solutions. EDIT: Luckily, it stopped doing this.
7. If the bezels were a bit narrower especially the sides and top, it would have quite a flagship killer look. Even the A51 has narrower bezels on the side. But I know Samsung did this on purpose so their more expensive S series phones would look more special than the A series.
8. It's a bit on the heavier side if you compare it to the A51. Putting a case and tempered glass on it will only increase the weight further. I find myself having to put the phone down on a table or bed to use it. I can't hold it in the air for long due to its weight.
Bugs1. "Force dark mode" option in developer settings automatically turns itself off whenever you restart your device.
2. If you set animation to .5x instead of the default 1x, and cycle through your recent apps, there's a weird stutter.
Conclusion
If you can live with Samsung's annoying OneUI stutters or slow animations, this isn't a bad phone especially if you can get it for around $300 USD. I'd call this a good phone for moms/dads and grandmas/grandpas. If you're a young millennial trying to live on the cutting edge, I'd pass on this one and get something that's a little faster, maybe the new Nord CE (it has a more washed out display than the A52 though).
Well! My phone have just arrived. I'm switching from an S7 edge that I've been using for the last 4 years. So far I find that the screen is pretty good! Better than the S7E. The speed is excellent and of course, the ONE UI 3.1 is superb. I've already uninstalled some unwanted apps. As regards the camera, haven't tested it yet. But obviously, the GCAM will make it better.
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Well! My phone have just arrived. I'm switching from an S7 edge that I've been using for the last 4 years. So far I find that the screen is pretty good! Better than the S7E. The speed is excellent and of course, the ONE UI 3.1 is superb. I've already uninstalled some unwanted apps. As regards the camera, haven't tested it yet. But obviously, the GCAM will make it better.
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Of course it'll be better than a 4 year old phone lol. If you think one UI is superb, try using stock android or oxygenos, you will be blown away.
I got A72 and the picture quality coming out from the stabilized Sony IMX 686 sensor with pixel binned 16 MP pictures is superior to Samsung HM2 108 MP giving just 12MP images ... So is A52, I don't believe your "honest review" ....
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I got A72 and the picture quality coming out from the stabilized Sony IMX 686 sensor with pixel binned 16 MP pictures is superior to Samsung HM2 108 MP giving just 12MP images ... So is A52, I don't believe your "honest review" ....
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A72 is not A52. Specs are one thing, software is another. You don't have to believe anything. As I said in my review, you should experience the phones in person preferably from friends who bought it and then make a decision.
The OP is obviously a satisfied customer
Griping about it being water resistant is really picking at nits. It adds little cost and help to seal out dust, extending the usable service life of the device.
Charging a phone while using isn't a good idea and it should charge slow whilst using regardless of the wattage capacity of the charger brick being used.
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Hi guys. I bought an A52 4G for myself a few weeks ago and here is my brutally honest review. As you will see, there are a lot of things I wasn't satisfied with but for my budget and availability, this was one of the better ones.
Pros:
1. Lots of QoL services by Samsung like always on display and apps like Gallery by Samsung can be more useful than Photos by Google. I also mapped the double tap power button to start the flashlight.
2. The 720G chipset along with a 90hz display feels plenty smooth especially for those coming from an older midrange device. It's not as fast and instantaneous as stock android or oxygenos but this is probably the fastest that Samsung OneUI has ever been.
3. Stereo speakers. Quality is average though. I don't use it much so I don't care.
4. Water resistance. It can be useful if you like to take your phone to the bathroom or live in a rainy area but I feel this feature is more suitable for flagship phones. The 4G version of the A52 really don't need this feature and it would be better if the device was slightly cheaper instead.
Cons:
1. Sound quality output through the 3.5mm jack is very bland. My previous phone (Moto G5s Plus) had a much better built-in DAC. But at least the jack is there so I guess it's better than nothing but I'd suggest you get a good type-c to 3.5mm converter and use that instead if you're looking for quality audio.
2. The display isn't bad (the 90hz is definitely an upgrade over 60hz) but the color calibration out of the box by Samsung is very boring and washed out. You can switch to "vibrant" mode but it over saturates everything. The saturation is so off the charts that you have no choice but to go back to the pale "natural" mode. Hopefully, the xda community will do something about this, maybe a graphics engine or some app that can tinker with the display settings more finely.
3. The charger provided is really weak. Sometimes I like to use my phone while it's charging. Sadly this charger is too weak to do that and can't keep up. I did have a faster charger from my previous budget moto phone and it does a much better job charging the A52. So I really don't know why Samsung pulled an Apple with the charger.
4. The lightly colored matte plastic back looks awesome in the beginning but with some mild use, the colors are already starting to fade and become yellowish. So put a case or skin on it if you wanna preserve that awesome color.
5. The colors and details of the main camera really sucks for an upper midrange device in 2021. I saw some reviews on YouTube with review units provided by Samsung that showed much better camera quality than what I'm getting with my retail unit. Luckily, some people have already started working on gcam for this device and from what I've heard the results are much better than Samsung's default camera app.
6. Random spammy apps like Dailyhunt get automatically installed every few days. I set all settings to not update anything automatically but it still does that. I even contacted customer care about this and they couldn't provide any solutions.
7. If the bezels were a bit narrower especially the sides and top, it would have quite a flagship killer look. But I know Samsung did this on purpose so their more expensive S series phones would look more special than the A series.
8. It's a bit on the heavier side if you compare it to the A51. Putting a case and tempered glass on it will only increase the weight further.
9. The amoled screen can be fatiguing to your eyes. Not everyone faces this but personally I have this problem.
Conclusion: That wraps up my brutally honest review of the A52 4G. I hope you enjoyed the fact that I didn't jump up and down and say this is the best phone ever like most YouTube "reviewers". They say that whenever a new phone comes out. Of course the people who are gonna upgrade from a 5 year old phone will also say this is the best phone they ever used. From their perspective, it makes sense but I believe you should thoroughly research the market and only buy what YOU like the most. I was moving to another country where phones are quite expensive so I just grabbed this cause I was in a hurry. If you have the time, research other phones and try to use them in person. That way you will know for sure what you're getting because specs can be misleading. I'd suggest you look into Poco F3, OnePlus Nord, Moto G100, Moto G60 and other similarly priced devices before going for the A52. Don't assume that just because it's a Samsung, it's gonna be a great phone. Samsung intentionally nerfed this phone so there is more incentive for people to go for the more expensive S series phones.
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I appreciate your feedback. I'm certain most of those who are still undecided will as well.
To be frank, this device has received overwhelming amounts of good press, which, as a consumer, is a good thing.
That said, constructive criticism is a key component towards improving upon future A series models and/or polishing the current user experience.
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I appreciate your feedback. I'm certain most of those who are still undecided will as well.
To be frank, this device has received overwhelming amounts of good press, which, as a consumer, is a good thing.
That said, constructive criticism is a key component towards improving upon future A series models and/or polishing the current user experience.
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Paid press is always good press...
The Samsung Fold series always get rave reviews but they're expensive, fragile and limited devices. Worse I'm being kind in my criticism.
6. Random spammy apps like Dailyhunt get automatically installed every few days. I set all settings to not update anything automatically but it still does that. I even contacted customer care about this and they couldn't provide any solutions.
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Weird, I have never encountered this.
3. The charger provided is really weak. Sometimes I like to use my phone while it's charging. Sadly this charger is too weak to do that and can't keep up. I did have a faster charger from my previous budget moto phone and it does a much better job charging the A52. So I really don't know why Samsung pulled an Apple with the charger
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I don't mind this at all since it's already proven that fast charging does hurt your battery longevity.
2. The display isn't bad (the 90hz is definitely an upgrade over 60hz) but the color calibration out of the box by Samsung is very boring and washed out. You can switch to "vibrant" mode but it over saturates everything. The saturation is so off the charts that you have no choice but to go back to the pale "natural" mode. Hopefully, the xda community will do something about this, maybe a graphics engine or some app that can tinker with the display settings more finely.
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I agree with this, although I prefer it for the occasional media consumption. For general usage, it might lead to some eye strain for some people which includes me.
The build despite plastic is decent enough considering the trade-offs with its other specs at this price point and an IP6X is always welcome. The camera is nothing spectacular but not bad, given that it's harder to quantify the expected degrees of quality per $ at this price range. Performance is fine for the majority of the time but there are occasional stutters or lag you will encounter. Overall, I'm very satisfied with my purchase. It's also worth noting that warranty and software support tend to get overlooked when looking at the price.
I was considering Poco F3 as an alternative before getting my A52 however, I didn't go through with the Poco F3 because of various issues and concerns that I can't be arsed to list.
This phone is on my list to upgrade from my Essential PH-1. Keeping an eye on ROM development and Gcam development. I can get it for around $354 depending on the COP to USD conversion rate in Colombia. Anyone know better deals out in the wild?
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Hi guys. I bought an A52 4G for myself a few weeks ago and here is my brutally honest review. As you will see, there are some things I wasn't satisfied with but I needed a phone quickly and for my budget and availability, I thought I'd give Samsung a chance.
Pros
1. Lots of QoL services by Samsung like always on display and apps like Gallery by Samsung can be more useful than Photos by Google. I also mapped the double tap power button to start the flashlight.
2. The 720G chipset along with a 90hz display feels plenty powerful especially for those coming from an older midrange device. However, it's not as fast and instantaneous as stock Android or OxygenOS. Also, you will face lots of stutters and bugs if you enable animation to .5x. At default 1x, animations are too damn slow.
3. Stereo speakers. Sound quality is average though. I don't use it much so I don't care.
4. Water resistance. It's nice of Samsung to bring this feature to a midrange device.
5. The macro camera can be useful for taking pictures of very small items like coins. The selfie camera seems alright.
6. The display, despite having kind of inaccurate colors is actually a lot better looking than most Chinese brand (OnePlus, Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi, Realme, etc) phone displays. Most Chinese brand displays tend to have a washed out, pale look to them despite having high refresh rates.
7. Battery life is pretty decent. If you don't use it much, it'll last a couple days easily. Of course, battery will degrade over time so a few years later, you might need to change the battery or the phone itself.
Cons
1. Sound quality output through the 3.5mm jack is very bad. My previous phone (Moto G5s Plus) had a much better built-in DAC. But at least the jack is there so I guess it's better than nothing but I'd suggest you get a good type-c to 3.5mm converter and use that instead if you're looking for decent audio.
2. The display isn't bad (the 90hz is definitely an upgrade over 60hz) but the color calibration out of the box by Samsung is very inaccurate and kind of pale. You can switch to "vibrant" mode but it over saturates everything. The saturation is so off the charts that you have no choice but to go back to the pale "natural" mode. Also, the amoled screen can be fatiguing to your eyes. Not everyone faces this but personally I have this problem.
3. The charger provided is really weak. Sometimes I like to use my phone while it's charging. Sadly this charger is too weak to do that and can't keep up. I did have a faster charger from my previous budget moto phone and it does a much better job charging the A52. It would be better if Samsung didn't provide this crappy 15 watt charger and made the phone cheaper so I could buy a 25 watt charger myself. I don't see the logic in this. The phone supports 25 watt charging but Samsung includes a 15 watt charger in the box.
4. The lightly colored matte plastic back looks awesome in the beginning but with some mild use, the colors are already starting to fade and become yellowish. So put a case or skin on it if you wanna preserve that awesome color.
5. The colors and details of the main camera are not very good for an upper midrange device in 2021. I saw some reviews on YouTube with review units provided by Samsung that showed much better camera quality than what I'm getting with my retail unit. Especially after you take a picture, if you zoom in on a person's face for example, the details are just not there. Also, the colors are inaccurate and not life like. Hopefully, someone can make a good GCAM for this phone. Otherwise, expect to live with an average camera.
6. Random spammy apps like Dailyhunt get automatically installed every few days. I set all settings to not update anything automatically but it still does that. I even contacted customer care about this and they couldn't provide any solutions. EDIT: Luckily, it stopped doing this.
7. If the bezels were a bit narrower especially the sides and top, it would have quite a flagship killer look. Even the A51 has narrower bezels on the side. But I know Samsung did this on purpose so their more expensive S series phones would look more special than the A series.
8. It's a bit on the heavier side if you compare it to the A51. Putting a case and tempered glass on it will only increase the weight further. I find myself having to put the phone down on a table or bed to use it. I can't hold it in the air for long due to its weight.
Bugs1. "Force dark mode" option in developer settings automatically turns itself off whenever you restart your device.
2. If you set animation to .5x instead of the default 1x, and cycle through your recent apps, there's a weird stutter.
Conclusion
If you can live with Samsung's annoying OneUI stutters or slow animations, this isn't a bad phone especially if you can get it for around $300 USD. I'd call this a good phone for moms/dads and grandmas/grandpas. If you're a young millennial trying to live on the cutting edge, I'd pass on this one and get something that's a little faster, maybe the new Nord CE (it has a more washed out display than the A52 though).
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Well, I will answer this from the perspective of an Indian Millenial coming from Mi A2 (and having only used crappy Micromax and Redmi phones in the past, this is something which I think most Indian youth can relate to). Let's go point by point :
1. UI
Having used stock android and MIUI, I can confidently say that OneUI is definitely a bit clumsy, but it is easy to get used to compared to FuncTouch and MIUI. Also, *there is no Google dialer*, meaning you can safely do call recording. Also OneUI has "Link to Windows" baked right into it, which is a huge boon in my opinion as it kinda compensates for the lack of DeX support, I think this is one of the most underrated feature of Samsung phones.
2. Ads and Bloatware scene
Now this maybe specific to India only. I set the device up using GeekyRanjit's guide on "How to setup Samssung devices" on YT, and so far (1 month later) I have got no ads except wallpaper services message when I swipe from right on lock screen. Also, all bloatware can be either disabled or uninstalled (unlike MIUI and ColourOS), so no problem there. Overall it is much much better than Redmi, Poco and Realme offerings. Though here Oneplus NORD maybe better.
3. Camera
TBH I bought this phone for the camera, and consider the competition it did not let me down, sure there is a bit of over sharpening going on in most images and indoor/low light photos and videos have a ton of noise but considering the competition in 15k-25k INR, it is definitely better. I use Gcam 7.3.018 by Urynx05, and it does improve video stabilisation a lot thanks to OIS (only Oneplus NORD has OIS in this price). For night mode, stock night mode is better than night sight (much brighter and well balanced). Daylight pics, it is a mixed bag, macro camera is good but could have been better,but considering how rarely it is used, it is fine.
4. Display
Most Indian milllenials like me are currently upgrading from LCD to Amoled. I having never used an Amoled, am satisfied with the display. But yeah you are right Amoled displays do cause more eye fatigue than LCD.
5. Availability and Customer support
This is where this phone shines! Here in India, this phone is available like everywhere, in most mobile shop in any market no matter, how small or rural the area, this unfortunately is not the case for OnePlus and Redmi, POCO (infamous for flash sales and black-marketing)etc., thus Galaxy A52's actual competitors are phones from Vivo and Oppo, which are usually more pricey. Also, Samsung customer services is next to Apple.
Set your priorities before buying a phone and you won't be disappointed, my suggestion, if you want good camera hardware and reliable phone go for it, but if you want to do gaming I would suggest you to look elsewhere say iQOO Z3 for 20k INR.
I am trying to get either this phone or s10? I was leaning more towards a52 since it could get up to android 14 opposed to 12 on s10.
Which one should i get?