Hello everyone,
I received my OnePlus 6 today and I am very happy. It's the 6/64 model. I come from a Galaxy S7 Edge and a Galaxy A3 2017.
Here are my thoughts about it:
- Build quality is exemplary, I played with Huawei Mate 10 Pro and P20 and the OP6 is way better built, very close if not identical quality to Samsung's best phones. For me, a phone needs to look "professional", not plasticky or gimmicky. This one delivers !
- The case that comes with the phone is very high quality, I am amazed. It's not a simple case, it has many interesting features: sides are matte finished and provide high grip, it has raised corners, the corner protection is exemplary. Plus, it fits like a glove. Don't waste your money on another case until you try the stock one (I unfortunately did - I have the Nylon Bumper case on the way).
- Screen is gorgeous and perfectly calibrated, I have a Surface Pro 4 and a Surface Pro 5 (perfectly calibrated screens) and the calibration of the OP6 is almost identical. Colors are exactly as they should be, whites are perfectly balanced. And I love notched screens, I want as little bezel as possible, really no complaints !
- The speed of the phone is incredible, I have never used a phone so fast, much faster than the S8 and S9 that I have used for a few minutes. Web browsing speed is in another league compared to everything I used before.
- It came charged at 50%, and I got 3h of SOT and 9h of total usage from the factory 50% charge (with app installations, updates, a lot of web browsing, 1 hour of music playing to bluetooth headset, etc.)
- Pictures in low light are way over my expectations, on par with the S7 Edge (which has a great camera setup).
- Software is really great, light and customizable.
- The double-tap to wake is a great feature and very reliable.
- Everything works as expected, no quirks. At this price, I was expecting something to be really off, but no, everything is great !
- I have never used a SD card (ok, used once), wireless charging, and always protected my phone from water, so I consider the lack of those features a non-issue for me.
Now for the less good parts:
- (Biggest issue if you come from Samsung or LG phones): Always-On display is missing and this is a significant issue (although it was present in the firmware before the updates, hopefully they bring it back !), I also like the LED notifications even more especially with the Light Flow app, but the problem is that this phone's LED is a little dim and small. However, it does the job.
- Phone is a little bigger than I would like, but really, it's nitpicking, it fits very well in my front pocket and I am already used to it
- Rear-placed fingerprint sensor makes it unusable for me, basically I will never use it, I can't use it in the car, I can't use it when the phone is on the table
- Face unlock is incredibly fast, but it doesn't work at an angle, when the phone is on the table and you glance at it, you can't use it when the phone is on the table.
- Your best bet for unlocking this phone reliably in the car or on the table is to wear a smartwatch and enable Smart Lock (I have a Pebble 2 - great smartwatch that wipes the floor with any Wear OS watch - think always-on screen and 8 days of battery life and great notification management - enough said).
- If you enable gestures instead of buttons (gestures are incredibly easy and intuitive on the OP6) you can't double tap to lock screen...that's a big issue for me, I don't want to press the power button a lot for durability reasons. For now I have left the navigation buttons in place (double tap home will lock the screen) but I hope a solution will be provided eventually. EDIT: a very recent OnePlus Launcher release just added "double-tap anywhere on the home screen to lock", so you can count this issue out
- The bottom-firing speaker is not ideal, many times I used the phone in portrait mode in bed and I cover the speaker with my finger. Samsung has a smarter placement on the side. Of course, dual front speakers would be nice but I don't use the speakers a lot and I much prefer the small bezels instead.
Conclusion: all in all, I consider the OnePlus 6 the most "balanced" flagship of the current generation of flagships. For me, aside from the lack of AOD (which will hopefully be reintroduced), it has almost no flaws. And the price is just...fair to the customer, most of the others have ripoff prices for phones that are missing critical features like decent battery life, for example.
This was my quick review.
Thanks !
I have gestures enabled and I can still use DT2W. Maybe because I enabled DT2W after enabling gestures. Can you try re-enabling DT2W?
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Nice little review though.
GizmoFreak said:
I have gestures enabled and I can still use DT2W. Maybe because I enabled DT2W after enabling gestures. Can you try re-enabling DT2W?
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Nice little review though.
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My problem was about double-tap to lock/sleep (I assume DT2W = double tap to wake), since there were no buttons you couldn't double-tap on the home button to lock. However, a very recent update to the OnePlus launcher just enabled double-tap anywhere on the home screen to lock, so my problem is solved. For those interested, the setting is in the launcher settings (long-press on home screen), not in the regular settings. So I can now use gestures !
Here are my first battery drain stats. Things look very good until now, with 4h SOT and 16h total stand-by and still 55% left. This is on the very first charge of the phone ! Very surprising to me. My usage consists of mostly web browsing, email, some music and some occasional video, I don't play games and I don't have any social media apps installed (I use Facebook from the browser when needed).
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My problem was about double-tap to lock/sleep (I assume DT2W = double tap to wake), since there were no buttons you couldn't double-tap on the home button to lock. However, a very recent update to the OnePlus launcher just enabled double-tap anywhere on the home screen to lock, so my problem is solved. For those interested, the setting is in the launcher settings (long-press on home screen), not in the regular settings. So I can now use gestures !
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Oops my bad. I meant double tap to sleep. Yeah may be then I enabled from the launcher settings so it was working for me.
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My problem was about double-tap to lock/sleep (I assume DT2W = double tap to wake), since there were no buttons you couldn't double-tap on the home button to lock. However, a very recent update to the OnePlus launcher just enabled double-tap anywhere on the home screen to lock, so my problem is solved. For those interested, the setting is in the launcher settings (long-press on home screen), not in the regular settings. So I can now use gestures !
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with the following tools you can easily and cross device implement the features you're missing:
a) double tab to sleep works with a shortcut and an single tap icon on home screen and/or implemented into either swapps and/or LMT
. further nova launcher as well as the launcher you already mentioned have gestures to lock the screen, hence no problem to get that.
b) always on display can be had with a combo of screensaver clock plus (or another less nice watch LOL) and "auto screen saver" all in playstore.
need more info, simply send pm cause i won't follow this thread further, just came here once to hear what others think and found out.
magnamentis said:
with the following tools you can easily and cross device implement the features you're missing:
a) double tab to sleep works with a shortcut and an single tap icon on home screen and/or implemented into either swapps and/or LMT
. further nova launcher as well as the launcher you already mentioned have gestures to lock the screen, hence no problem to get that.
b) always on display can be had with a combo of screensaver clock plus (or another less nice watch LOL) and "auto screen saver" all in playstore.
need more info, simply send pm cause i won't follow this thread further, just came here once to hear what others think and found out.
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Double-tap to lock screen is an incredibly useful gesture but it requires deep OS support for proper functioning.
Any application-level double-tap to lock screen results in requiring the PIN when unlocking next time (try it...). This is a stupid Google "security" issue, present since Android 7 if I'm not mistaken.
Some launchers like Nova and Microsoft Launcher (also mentioned by you) use a hack and do not actually lock the screen on double-tap but make it black and set the screen timeout to a low value like 5 seconds. However, this approach is also bad, because if you put it in a pocket or touch the screen immediately after you "lock" the screen, the phone will unlock immediately because it was not yet really locked.
So "real" double-tap to lock is a plus for OnePlus, and I'm glad it's properly implemented ! Until now I have only seen it properly implemented in LG phones.
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I've created an app that wakes ambient display when you take the phone out of your pocket or if you have the phone face down and turn it over. The app is in addition to Google's ambient display and does not change your lock screen in anyway. It can also set "pulses" of ambient display. The free version allows you to have it always pulse while charging.
I added a few other paid features for tilt or lift to unlock, wave to unlock, pulsing at an interval, and battery percentage display on the ambient display.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions or run into any problems. Thank you!
Check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.ambiturner
Pulse means, as long as i have for exampel a unread whatsapp message, ambi is showing at the set pulse time?
Maybe ill test it on OP3 with CM14.1 running ... will report back!
MultiCulti said:
Pulse means, as long as i have for exampel a unread whatsapp message, ambi is showing at the set pulse time?
Maybe ill test it on OP3 with CM14.1 running ... will report back!
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Correct. There is a filter for you to choose which apps can trigger a pulse. The pulse timeout is how long do you want the pulses to continue before it stops (to save battery). Pulse will temporarily pause when your phone goes into deep sleep. I could wake it up, but that's a much larger battery hit.
The other features seems to have little to now battery impact. Pulse is fine as long as the interval isn't set crazy low.
So far I've only personally tested it on stock Pixel XL.
ok, so far its working fine here!
Just the pulse isnt working (tried whatsapp and google messenger)
Love the idea off showing the battery, but its not that looking good :silly:
but i think, you just can manage this as "notification", or am i wrong?
anyways, good idea so far, will follow (bought it anyway) :laugh:
MultiCulti said:
ok, so far its working fine here!
Just the pulse isnt working (tried whatsapp and google messenger)
Love the idea off showing the battery, but its not that looking good :silly:
but i think, you just can manage this as "notification", or am i wrong?
anyways, good idea so far, will follow (bought it anyway) :laugh:
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The battery level is a notification. I'll create a custom layout to improve the look in a future update.
The pulse is the least reliable feature. I'm still working out the kinks, but doze and deep sleep definitely are one problem. I'm testing various ways and will try to get it as consistent as possible.
Alarm Manager would work but it would drain battery.
Looks great! Just to confirm - you need to have a lock screen set up for it to work?
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Looks great! Just to confirm - you need to have a lock screen set up for it to work?
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Yes, it works with androids Ambient Display. So if you have that and it's turned on it should work.
So I've done some limited testing with the app white listed from doze and so far it improves the responsiveness significantly. I don't know the battery impacts yet, but if it's not noticeable I'll add code to prompt users to white list it.
Other upcoming changes:
Advanced settings to adjust wait times for how long the phone has to be in your pocket or laying flat before a wake can occur.
A pulse option that initially pulses faster when a notification comes in, and progressively shows down until the timeout.
Possibly change in lock screen battery indicator appearance.
Filter on laying flat thresholds. I suspect the accelerometer incorrectly reports the phone tilted while it is laying flat on occasion.
New update posted.
I may have discovered what is causing the intermittent nature of wave to wake. I made some changes in how I'm using the proximity sensor so that should help. I'll have to wait and see after a day or so of use to see how consistent it is.
I also added an option to turn off the wake from pocket.
There's now a help screen with an email developer button and some troubleshooting hints. I've been getting a large number of 1 star reviews, and many of them are people who don't realize you need to have ambient display turned on and a lock screen set, so I included more info on that.
Oh, and the notification is now hidden unless you have the Battery Indicator selected!
If anyone is still having problems with tilt to wake please let me know. On my Pixel XL that has been working every time all day. There is sometimes a delay, but I think that's due to the aggressiveness of Android 7.1 putting the device into sleep.
Awesome app. I bought it mainly because of Wave To Wake, but for some reason it works two times on my Nexus 6 and then stops working until I turn my screen on and off again. Oh, and I've already whitelisted Ambi-Turner from the battery optimisation.
Also I would love if you could make Ambient Display work as soon as I turn the screen off, without having to wait for 10 or 3 seconds.
Thank you a lot for your hard work, I hope this can be fixed. Please contact me if I can help with anything!
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Awesome app. I bought it mainly because of Wave To Wake, but for some reason it works two times on my Nexus 6 and then stops working until I turn my screen on and off again. Oh, and I've already whitelisted Ambi-Turner from the battery optimisation.
Also I would love if you could make Ambient Display work as soon as I turn the screen off, without having to wait for 10 or 3 seconds.
Thank you a lot for your hard work, I hope this can be fixed. Please contact me if I can help with anything!
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I'm trying to get wave to wake as consistent as possible. Did you update last night? Let me know if that helps it.
I'm actually working on some advanced settings to let you control those timeouts.
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I'm trying to get wave to wake as consistent as possible. Did you update last night? Let me know if that helps it.
I'm actually working on some advanced settings to let you control those timeouts.
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I'm testing it right now and it's still quite inconsistent. Though I never know if I'm waving too fast or too slow, you know? Maybe if there was a way to make it more sensitive? Thanks for the attention! ;D
Edit: just to be clear, Wave To Wake does only work two times, but I discovered that I don't actually need to turn the screen on for it to work, I can just move the device (then Ambient Display will turn on) and after that the Wave To Wake will work again (though still only two times). I believe it has something to do with the time after it's been awake or something like that.
Android Wear Issue
Ok...I love the app when its working and even bought the Pro. So worth it to me.
This morning I forgot my Android Wear watch (LG Urbane) at home and Ambi Turner was working perfectly. I had to run home at lunch, grabbed my watch, turned it on and now Ambi Turner isn't working.
Any thoughts how to get around this?
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Ok...I love the app when its working and even bought the Pro. So worth it to me.
This morning I forgot my Android Wear watch (LG Urbane) at home and Ambi Turner was working perfectly. I had to run home at lunch, grabbed my watch, turned it on and now Ambi Turner isn't working.
Any thoughts how to get around this?
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UPDATE: I turned off the 'Mute' for my watch and Ambi Turner started working again. Hmm...gotta thing this one through. Turning on Mute alerts my watch, but I also see them on Amber Display.
Ygor Cortes said:
I'm testing it right now and it's still quite inconsistent. Though I never know if I'm waving too fast or too slow, you know? Maybe if there was a way to make it more sensitive? Thanks for the attention! ;D
Edit: just to be clear, Wave To Wake does only work two times, but I discovered that I don't actually need to turn the screen on for it to work, I can just move the device (then Ambient Display will turn on) and after that the Wave To Wake will work again (though still only two times). I believe it has something to do with the time after it's been awake or something like that.
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I'm adding some customization for the wave timeouts. I wish I could measure hand distance from phone but the pixel and nexus sensors don't have that granularity the way moto phones do.
mschumacker said:
UPDATE: I turned off the 'Mute' for my watch and Ambi Turner started working again. Hmm...gotta thing this one through. Turning on Mute alerts my watch, but I also see them on Amber Display.
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Hmm that's strange. I'm using a garmin fitness watch that has notifications and haven't seen anything like that. Does your watch somehow mute notifications on your phone so that only the watch displays them?
grokus said:
Hmm that's strange. I'm using a garmin fitness watch that has notifications and haven't seen anything like that. Does your watch somehow mute notifications on your phone so that only the watch displays them?
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Yes...there is a setting in Android Watch (Silence phone while wearing watch ) in the new version. It used to be 'Mute calls and notifications'. Its actually very handy so that when I'm in a meeting, I just get a vibration on my watch instead of my phone making any noise. Add the 'Feel the Wear' app where you can customize the vibration pattern per app...just a great combo.
EDIT: Since I just got a new version of Android Watch, it seems I can turn on the Silence option and the AmbiTurner, wake on wave, is working! Woo HOO!
Made tons of improvements. Tilt to wake should be extremely reliable now. There is also a lift to wake option. I reduced the speed you need to wave, so it should be much easier to trigger now. I also added an option to always pulse while charging.
Let me know how it works!
I had taken a break from updating it because I became a father but I have a little spare time now.
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Made tons of improvements. Tilt to wake should be extremely reliable now. There is also a lift to wake option. I reduced the speed you need to wave, so it should be much easier to trigger now. I also added an option to always pulse while charging.
Let me know how it works!
I had taken a break from updating it because I became a father but I have a little spare time now.
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@grokus is this app still being developed?
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My G4 just died, should I get the VZW version of the Pixel 2?
I just want to swap in the nano sim and keep going.
I want to use a custom rom so I need to unlock the bootloader, is this possible?
Swapppa has some reasonable offerings........
LG was a bad experience, want simplicity at its android best.
spyknee said:
I want to use a custom rom so I need to unlock the bootloader, is this possible?
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Not if you buy the Verizon version
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
ok and then
can I use my current nano sim for puppywireless, a verizon mvno, with the unlocked google edition pixel 2? Verizon wants cdma phones......................
You can buy the unlocked version from Google and use it on Verizon.
>Do I want a Pixel?
Depends on if you do or not.
Jokes aside, you can unlock a Verizon P2 if it hasn't taken the Jan update yet. Visit in store and ask to see a P2 in box, no SIM or wifi please. The box will indicate the factory software. Once you find a winner (hurry, they're fading from inventory) just carefully apply the unlock steps and enjoy.
Go Ahead
Yes, you should, Pixel mobiles are the best mobiles according to my friend's opinion, I'm also going to buy it next week but first I have to write my assignment.
So, I now own a new Pixel 2 Google Edition.
1st Pros:
Luv that its already stripped down and lean in the stock OS. @8.1.0 ver.
1st Cons:
Device does not report battery lvl correctly in notifications tab, always states 100%, icon always shows full.
WiFi icon appears to show only on, no signal strength at all.
Totally dislike notifications tab period! Too much redundancy! To much access points to the same stuff.
Decided that it should be a central home screen. A group of 5, home at center. Now that leaves 4 sides or edges.
1 edge for calling and texting, swipe left edge
1 edge for social media outlet of choice, swipe edge right
1 edge for camera and video, swipe edge down
1 edge for video and music playback, swipe edge up
Or could be other choices instead. Point being all the different access methods, repeat the same things so lets get simple.......................
Its about personalized customization of actual use. right now we just customize the presentation of gui's, color, form. There is nothing intuitive about OS use tho!. Things like smart bullitain are really useless and forced on us, seriously, wonder around with a live feed always going.......no.
spyknee said:
So, I now own a new Pixel 2 Google Edition.
1st Pros:
Luv that its already stripped down and lean in the stock OS. @8.1.0 ver.
1st Cons:
Device does not report battery lvl correctly in notifications tab, always states 100%, icon always shows full.
WiFi icon appears to show only on, no signal strength at all.
Totally dislike notifications tab period! Too much redundancy! To much access points to the same stuff.
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Interesting: on 8.0 the Pixel 2 battery meter stuck at 100% charge for a long time (not permanently), but that was fixed by updates. Should not be a problem with 8.1.
And the WiFi icon works just as expected, i.e. shows signal strength (though no "activity arrows" if you were used to those). So this sounds like something is wrong.
I'm not sure what you are saying about the notifications. Can you give some examples?
Things like smart bullitain are really useless and forced on us, seriously, wonder around with a live feed always going.......no.
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I don't have anything forced on me - I just turned off (or didn't turn on) anything that didn't interest me (with Google's launcher being one of the first things to go). There are always alternatives.
So I have discovered that enabling the ui demo mode was the problem with the status bar and battery level reporting, enabling this bad.
I have learned of and enabled the system ui tuner. This ended all the phone functions, status reporting, very sweet. Now the status bar just reflects certain running services.
I also installed the Android P theme launcher, I like it. Has a sidebar option, the ability to hide the status bar, the ability to alter dock settings. So I essentially dumped some cpu reporting cycles, so to speak, let see how bat life responds.
Without root, I have gotten closer to what I want. Need to get TWRP installed and a nandroid made.
Next thing,
Ambient- Always On Display, many internet posts for disabling. Do Not Disable!
Affects the screen saver display and wake up, touch screen. The touch screen seems to need this enabled for better response. I decided to enable the edges as well. Turned it to full squeeze. Do not wish the assistant but it seems that disabling it, and the rest really upsets touch screen.
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Next thing,
Ambient- Always On Display, many internet posts for disabling. Do Not Disable!
Affects the screen saver display and wake up, touch screen. The touch screen seems to need this enabled for better response. I decided to enable the edges as well. Turned it to full squeeze. Do not wish the assistant but it seems that disabling it, and the rest really upsets touch screen.
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Ehm, AOD is just a additional option that is included so you can check the clock and whatnot without the need of turning on your screen.
The touch response in the screen is controlled at the kernel driver level and is only affected (in a negative way) by yourself and your fingers and how dirty the screen is.
spyknee said:
Next thing,
Ambient- Always On Display, many internet posts for disabling. Do Not Disable!
Affects the screen saver display and wake up, touch screen. The touch screen seems to need this enabled for better response. I decided to enable the edges as well. Turned it to full squeeze. Do not wish the assistant but it seems that disabling it, and the rest really upsets touch screen.
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I might be the only one but I disabled aod with no ill effect that I am aware of. I don't care for it.
Also, enabling the up-down arrows on wifi-data is a simple mod.
aod affects pick up wake, double tap wake. touch responsesivness is very finicky as is, worse with aod off.
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aod affects pick up wake, double tap wake. touch responsesivness is very finicky as is, worse with aod off.
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You are just experiencing some placebo side effects, mate. AOD have NOTHING to do with the screen sensitivity.
The screen- and touch response is controlled at the kernel driver level. Not at software/application(s) level.
AOD
My issue was this, if I left the phone idle and untouched for awhile and then came to it and double tapped the screen, it would not wake up. I would have to use the side button to open. Sometimes the action of lifting would allow the double tap to work, but inconsistant. Doing the squeeze for the assistant was inconsistant as well.
The touch screen acts inconsistantly. If you do a horizontal movement, it interferes with a vertical swipe, I mean things seem to get canceled out. I have to initiate action multiple times to win.
heres the deal, i do not give a flying bleep whether its a hardware or software issue, I would like smart answers that give a solution, not assign a blame or fault. Or tell me I am somehow misinterpreting what I percieved.
So here is my take. The dam phone is overloaded with redundant crap, that steps on each other, interfering with it self. IMO everything in this phone should be disabled at purchase. The consumer should then enable those things it wants! Possibly eliminating over extended, overlapping services and hardware.
Now I say this because it appears that in fact to much was being asked of the phone and it was flipping out basically.
I dumped some google software, pretty much what it would let me.
I disabled the screen saver function, my belief is this was why i would not wake up. Screen saver or no, it times out going to the aod clock display, which I like. Now the phone responds to a lift and double tap everytime......................................................................................
I was using a single home screen, with the android p launcher sidebar. My issue was using swipes to navigate web sites, read stuff, sift thru pages. The swipes were not responding properly, PITA. It seems that by using a single home screen, it stilts the screen edge, makes a dead zone, interferes. Not to mention the right side slider swipe icon is useless as presented. It seems that enabling a 2nd home screen helps with that dead zone. Its not 100% when swiping thru pages but response has gotten more tolerable.
IMO
Thanks to fakebook, everyone should understand what these devices are truly about, DATA MINING.
Google
Verizon
LG,HTC,Samsung,Hauweii
Each and every phone has at minimum, 3 different forms of active data harvesting going on. manufacturers, carriers, media apps. The greatest performance killer of all, not to mention...........................................I have come to despise predictive search algos, targeted marketing adds, basically digital junk mail inundation.
So,
Been using the pix 2 awhile now. Really hated Oreo so I went into beta play to get pistachio. Used ver 3, now 4.
I really liked the initial ver 3 update cuz it removed so much bloat from carrier crap. Less google crap too it seems.
Now I like the responsiveness much better with ver 4. I still have everything I can disabled, disabled or removed. No AOD, active edges, tap to life, no music, movies, tv. No auto pay, auto track, auto search, google talk, nada.
Its a com device, an internet search device, thats it! Bat life is good, real good.
These devices are overburdened with non-sensical, redundancies, that create huge performance impacts. Seriously, how many ways are there to access a smartphone, on all at once.
Now I lift the phone, touch the physical button and walla, works every dam time.
Yep, flexible to meet millions of users needs...
Just dropping this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/help/worth-buying-pixel-2-june-2018-t3803197
It might also give anyone also in a similar situation additional information to help deciding.
If you want TLDR skip to edits in the end and camera TLDR.
Not going to repeat what is written in tons of review + specs you can find anywhere. Bought mine for 358EUR (incl. 6EUR prepaid card to be eligible for this price at O2).
For this price you receive heavy package with 4/64 version, but there is nothing in package besides fast charger and type C cable, no earphones, no case and the heaviest item it's guidebook in dozens of languages. My version it's COL-L29 8.1.0.100(C432) out of box with April security patch, no update available. With 64GB version you have available 50GB of space, though I guess already some of my stuff taking space.
Phone it's no problem to hold on the sides/edges in hand, but back it's really slippery on any surface and will have to buy case not to protect it but to make it less slippery. Even if there is less slope on sofa it will slide down. Length of phone it's same as (wife's) Redmi Note 3, phone is just much narrower and display longer (because of big bezels in RN3, RN5 was only slight improvement in this aspect).
I've had two options between Blue and Grey color. I checked blue in the shop and personally find it childish, it's nice if you are woman or teenager I guess, but I decided to go with boring grey to be surprised it's actually light blue (can post photos later), so quite nice.
Rear lens it's protruding a lot, not understand why they don't make it flush and rather won't put bigger battery inside.
Bezels around display are THICK, I was using years old TCL S950 Alcatel Idol X), one of the smallest and very thin 5" phones and even this budget phone from years ago has thinner side bezels.
Fingeprint sensor in front can be used as navigation which I switched on since I don't like wasting screen space and sadly Huawei haven't yet implemented Edge gestures I was using through Xposed on this temporary TCL S950. If you long press it acts as Home button and you will get haptic feedback, but if you just tap it it acts as Back button without any feedback which is kinda annoying. Swiping through from either side it acts as Recents button, but that's not very convenient and honestly I practically never use Recents button, but heavily use Last app switch which I haven't found here yet.
Default launcher it's agressively switching back to default instead of Lawnchair when changing some settings, but I guess after finishing setting up the phone it should stop trying to force itself on you.
Pretty much all third party apps can be removed, but there is ton of Huawei and Google bloatware. I mean I understand Huawei not letting you to disable or uninstall some of their apps, but why they don't allow uninstallation of Google apps it's mystery to me. You can just disable some of the Google crap (I am using only Play Store and Photos, nothing else), not uninstall it and some things I never heard (on LOS/NOS with pico opengapps) of like Carrier services you can't even disable.
At first I thought also because of phone I can't install Kii 2 keyboard, but aparently it disappeared from Play store for everyone, so will have to install APK or Swype, since preinstalled Swiftkey it's annoying.
Developer options are normally accessible, you can disable animations and change more settings than on LOS15.1 including switching Bluetooth codec to aptX and aptx HD.
I immediately disabled Notch and prefer black bar hiding it, but truth it's there is zero space for notifications because of crappy EMUI, on the left side of notch I have useless VolTE icon, two signal icons, wifi icon and network speed and nothing else, on the right side I have battery with percentage in indicator and miniature clock, not sure where are supposed to be displayed notification icons they mention in settings. Notifications are also displayed as annoying heads up which seem to be impossible globally switch off without 3rd party app.
I still haven't set up any security features, so I can switch on display directly with power button and what is more annoying also by holding fingerprint sensor which seem to be impossible to disable.
Battery doesn't seem to be anything to write about home, 3400mAh should be decent but we will see with longer testing and optimization. Out of the box I've had 70% capacity, now I am on 14% pretty much just setting up phone with lots of downloading through Wifi, no BT, no mobile data, no NFC, no GPS and taking maybe 50-100 photos. Screen according settings consumed 58% of all battery (including software) with 4hrs screen on time. Oh yeah I disabled Vivid display color mode to Normal, which immediately changes colors to much warmer, though color temperature it's on default. Apps not customized for 18/19:9 you can use in full screen and stretch them, it seem to work fine. There is also smart screen resolution to save battery by automatic switching from 2280x1080 to 1520x720, but not gonna use 720P on such big display.
There is no dedicated setting for custom LED color notifications, you can set them within apps, but no system setting as in NOS/LOS, so will need 3rd party app. LED notification it's very small, brightness it's fine but quite small.
The most interesting in the end - the camera. Focus it's nice fast, tested on baby, out of 11 photos of baby moving on bed 9-10 were sharp so focus speed it's right (that was my main reason to upgrading from Xiaomi Mi4c). But post processing oh my... Huawei it's using extreme post processing to make everything extremely sharp with high contrast losing colors/details adding noise, skin smoothened even with Beautify set to zero.
And don't get me started on AI - it seem like some cheap filter which is just raising saturation by 20-30% so the grass or leaves on trees are extremely green, yellow building turn into orange, if you actually compare reality with photos the photo without AI has natural colors, AI photo is oversaturated.
When it detects people then it's one track mind - bokeh bokeh bokeh everywhere, results are quite funny with small children which are always moving, with still grown up people it's OK but it has problem with children (maybe pets too, dunno). It seem to work fine only with clothes/body, but when child held some toy motorbike in hand part of the wheel was blurred too, also a bit fingers holding it.
Basically only benefit of AI it's brightening the darker spots of picture, but otherwise colors are oversaturated and it's using too much bokeh, by my experience with those 50-100 photos in afternoon in 90% cases you need to disable AI afterwards, so maybe it's not really even worth keeping it on at all and defnitely this AI gimmick would not hold me from leaving EMUI for AOSP/LOS/RR. Pro mode works only with rear camera, not with front camera.
At selfies it's heavy postprocessing as always, if you don't shave few days your hair will be blurred and not sharp as it should be (though no AF on front camera so maybe too much expectation, but I've seen better front cameras for sure even at budget phones) because their postprocessing it's trying to give you baby skin. This is even more annoying considering my children have sometimes skin problems, so I know their skin is not perfect already at first sight at any photo. Hey Huawei, I am not 20yo Asian girl using whitening cream and umbrella, but adult caucasian man who doesn't give AF about creams!
Camera TLDR - silk/baby skin, bokeh/portrait scene for any photo of people, oversharpening, but focus it's fast. AI TLDR - oversaturating everything, but brightening dark parts it's OK.
Later can report on GPS speed, jack output quality, speaker loudness, signal, call quality, battery life etc. but for now I was just setting up phone and testing camera. As for heating haven't really noticed it except maybe one ocassion.
edit: grey color according Huawei
https://i.imgur.com/NKqgu73.jpg
full crop original vs "smart" AI - whole hand blurry, not only outer edge
edit 2: the battery life it's bad, only 6 hours SOT only on Wi-Fi without mobile data, BT, GPS, NFC, calls, gaming, with 2 active SIM, mostly at home with lower brightness, mostly Reddit and surfing, some Spotify and YouTube (both testing maximum volume of speaker and earphones but no longer than 20 minutes at max) in browser, shooting maybe 40-70 photos and about 1.5min H265 video, some with maximum brightness outside. I've had similar battery life with Mi4c running SD808 (!) though heavily optimized Nitrogen OS and smaller 5" display with basically no photos and one active SIM, I hope it's the relatively heavy use of camera although it's not shown in stats
edit 3: fingerprint unlock it's fast as any other Huawei device (didn't experience issues as in some YouTube reviews), face unlock it's even faster, when enrolling face they need only one photo which seem odd for accuracy
edit 4: OK battery life seem reasonable 6-8 hours SoT on Wi-Fi only with small use of camera. Wi-Fi reception is atrocious though, where i had average signal with Mi4c i am getting disconnected with H10, that's pertinent worst thing about this phone together with very small LED notification light almost useless. AI blur it's really stupid leaving always some areas not blurred or blurring shoes of person for example which should be in same focus
Hello @PeterMarkoff,
Thank you for the detailed and well structured review of the Honor 10. I really appreciate the effort you put in to write this and now I'm following you to get any updates you might have related to the device.
Face unlock currently requires a double tap, which is annoying because it doesn't work half the time
Even though they are trying to fix this in the next update, a better implementation would be when you raise the phone, it shows the lock screen (not ambient display screen), and simultaneously turns on the front camera to face unlock your phone
Gravity screen can do this, but requires a heavy wakelock to do so. Using the same 'raise to wake' method as ambient display [which seems to work without a heavy wakelock], but then showing the lock screen instead of ambient display, should achieve this
I would LOVE this feature, it would be a complete game changer!!
I use gravity screen and don't lose much battery
Use the power button since it's more reliable anyways ?
Bradl79 said:
I use gravity screen and don't lose much battery
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There's still a fair amount of battery loss. Oneplus raise to wake seems to be able to do the same action without any battery loss
This was so fine on Op5 and 5T. Open Beta, of course!
Update: I've installed the wave up app. It basically wakes the phone when proximity sensor is uncovered
So when I take the phone out of my pocket, it authenticates my face automatically and unlocks, in a split second. I don't need to touch anything
Similarly if I keep my phone face down on a desk (not ideal), when I flip it over to look at it, it unlocks.
No messing around with d2tw which is more like quadruple tap to wake since this functionality is broken
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Update: I've installed the wave up app. It basically wakes the phone when proximity sensor is uncovered
So when I take the phone out of my pocket, it authenticates my face automatically and unlocks, in a split second. I don't need to touch anything
Similarly if I keep my phone face down on a desk (not ideal), when I flip it over to look at it, it unlocks.
No messing around with d2tw which is more like quadruple tap to wake since this functionality is broken
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Hi i use the original flip case from OP and as soon as i open my case door it unlocks witch is very easy and convenient.
Shall check with tasker.
Update: could not succeed.
I face no trouble in dt2w it wakes as it's intended to and unlocks with face within a split second, face unlock has become slower since the 5.1.9 and in dp3 but still fast enough
If my hand is dirty i just say Hey or Ok google.
Agree. it would be a great thing
Just installed the latest official Android Pie. Here is a list of things that I have noticed for the pass 24hrs. Oneplus 6 A6000 6GB/64GB.
Battery Life
There is no significant battery improvement or deterioration. Still getting approx. 4hrs30mins SOT with 60% WiFi, 40% Mobile Data most of the time.
Performance
There is no significant speed boost or lag, the phone still behaves the same as Android Oreo. Transitions between apps is still snappy. Using the in-house navigation gesture, I don't like the pill type navigation buttons.
Heat Generation
No significant heating issue, the phone does not warm up while using Facebook/Instagram and gaming on Brawl Stars. I can't comment anything about playing PUBG with it. No heating issues when charging while using it. I don't use my phone under a hot sun, so no comment on that.
Charging Speed
No significant difference. Still manage to boost it from 20%-80% under 40mins.
Brightness
As someone pointed out, I need to raise the brightness bar more to get the same amount of brightness to compared to Android Oreo. I do not use adaptive brightness.
Audio
The loudspeaker seems to have more treble now, and it is quite horrible, it has more hissing sound than before.
Recent App Layout
I hate it. I prefer the vertical layout (Yes you can revert it back to vertical layout by freezing the Oneplus Launcher, or something like that). Locking apps in the recent menu takes a bit more effort now.
Ringtone/Notification/Media Adjustment Layout
The new layout for adjusting the volumes is horrible. I always wind the ringtone volume as sometimes I am in a more quiet environment (No, the alert slider is not the way to go for me). So now in order to adjust the ringtone volume, i had to press the little wheelcog icon after pressing the volume rocker, bring up the volume settings, and then wind the ringtone volume, and it will playback the sound just before i could stop it, which is very annoying. I prefer the Oreo style volume adjustment. The playback is just plain annoying.
Alarm Clock App
The new alarm clock app is horrible. For every new alarm I set, it will require me to change to my favourite alarm sound (because now the default one is Spring, i prefer Alarm_Clock_5).
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Just installed the latest official Android Pie. Here is a list of things that I have noticed for the pass 24hrs. Oneplus 6 A6000 6GB/64GB.
Battery Life
There is no significant battery improvement or deterioration. Still getting approx. 4hrs30mins SOT with 60% WiFi, 40% Mobile Data most of the time.
Performance
There is no significant speed boost or lag, the phone still behaves the same as Android Oreo. Transitions between apps is still snappy. Using the in-house navigation gesture, I don't like the pill type navigation buttons.
Heat Generation
No significant heating issue, the phone does not warm up while using Facebook/Instagram and gaming on Brawl Stars. I can't comment anything about playing PUBG with it. No heating issues when charging while using it. I don't use my phone under a hot sun, so no comment on that.
Charging Speed
No significant difference. Still manage to boost it from 20%-80% under 40mins.
Brightness
As someone pointed out, I need to raise the brightness bar more to get the same amount of brightness to compared to Android Oreo. I do not use adaptive brightness.
Audio
The loudspeaker seems to have more treble now, and it is quite horrible, it has more hissing sound than before.
Recent App Layout
I hate it. I prefer the vertical layout (Yes you can revert it back to vertical layout by freezing the Oneplus Launcher, or something like that). Locking apps in the recent menu takes a bit more effort now.
Ringtone/Notification/Media Adjustment Layout
The new layout for adjusting the volumes is horrible. I always wind the ringtone volume as sometimes I am in a more quiet environment (No, the alert slider is not the way to go for me). So now in order to adjust the ringtone volume, i had to press the little wheelcog icon after pressing the volume rocker, bring up the volume settings, and then wind the ringtone volume, and it will playback the sound just before i could stop it, which is very annoying. I prefer the Oreo style volume adjustment. The playback is just plain annoying.
Alarm Clock App
The new alarm clock app is horrible. For every new alarm I set, it will require me to change to my favourite alarm sound (because now the default one is Spring, i prefer Alarm_Clock_5).
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You forgot to mention good things.
Were there any good things?
I accidentally came here to know if it was even possible for vertical layout for recent apps.
Thanks buddy. +1
Here was my first experience coming from 5.1.8
after updating to android pie on oneplus 6 advanced settings is Missing...and also option to forbid internet access for apps is missing....dese two r very useful essential.. is it hidden r any ways to get it back?
No more advanced reboot menu.
No more xposed
The new nav bar is pretty good! Got used to it almost immediately.
Overall performance is at par with Android O.
Haven't found anything that's substantially new, other than the new UI which is a good welcome change after seeing the previous one for so many years (across all OP devices).
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YouTube doesn't hide the notch anymore in landscape orientation after you pinch to zoom the video? Also don't see YouTube on full screen display mode apps list.. Ugh now I have to see thr YouTube videos with a notch!!
rezapatel said:
YouTube doesn't hide the notch anymore in landscape orientation after you pinch to zoom the video? Also don't see YouTube on full screen display mode apps list.. Ugh now I have to see thr YouTube videos with a notch!!
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Workaround here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...nos-5-1-5-ota-oneplus-6-t3794232/post77696736
No advanced reboot, face unlock is a bit slower (despite the clean install), it seems there is a problem with some sounds in apps like twitter in silent and vibration mode, and i think that the new settings layout it's pretty confusing...
I noticed i can't install twrp i stuck on "fasboot boot twrp.img" i get a crhasdumb mode. I tried everything like msdownload full phone install with that. Nothin happens. Tried to install pie with via fastboot. Nothing, any helps? (With msdownloader oreo is still working the twrp boot command )
Battery is a little better....
Camera is the same ***** than before, or worse.....
Apart that everything seems to work,,,,
I like it. No issues on mine. Plays gfx intensive games good and less heat, better game mode options, and seems less lag for me
Anyone facing animation issue while disconnecting a call? I am facing it continuously
It was super smooth on oreo
I do like the new quick settings as someone who can't see small print or icons this is a very welcome change. Also like that I can have both battery icon and % on bar, don't know why just my preference to have both.
I don't like that the volume button only controls media over ringtone and no way to change it. I much prefer the old way of the volume settings. OP still has not separated the ringtone from the notification volume control, this point drives me insane.
I've shut off the adaptive brightness, I find it worthless and I don't need Google deciding what they think the brightness level should be for me. Not sure if it was OP or Google, but the initial brightness level was set entirely too low.
I knew it was coming, but still a little miffed that OP didn't put some code back in bringing them back. I hate, absolutely hate that Google took away the different profiles for battery and location. In essence you either turn it on or off for both. I liked the different profile settings on both of these, I don't need nor want everything in location set to High (which is what it is), I want my battery saving setting back. Same goes with the battery, I would like to be able to shut off that adaptive battery and choose my settings like it used to be. I'm not a fan of how they changed the battery usage stats around either.
I'm still waiting on to see if I see any battery savings to this new way, but so far it seems to be more hype than actual real world performance.
The settings menu seems to be a bit disorganized for me with entirely too many submenu's within menus, so IMO it's a bit convoluted.
As for OP, still having issues of 3rd party dialers finding the call settings, they've yet to fix this.
I've installed Nova launcher since the tap off issue is now fixed in P and have all my features I missed so much from prior phones.
Camera quality has gone down
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I found a pretty annoying bug regarding the pixel Pil nav bar. Details here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/help/bug-report-pixel-pil-button-t3845952
The smoothness in the new App switcher is a little buggy. Could be smoother.
Everything else work es fine for me. Battery life seems the same.
Got somebody a issue with Threema? I only get messages when i open the app. I switched on the background processes for Google play Services and Threema and deactivates the battery optimisations but some settings you can toggle in Oreo are gone.
rachitshah said:
Anyone facing animation issue while disconnecting a call? I am facing it continuously
It was super smooth on oreo
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During call, it is very difficult to pull down the notification bar. I need to pull it really towards the center of the screen to keep it there, else it will just roll up again.
kneer said:
Camera quality has gone down
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I noticed this as well. The portrait mode seems to blur the wrong edges since P.
Ho,
My Recent App Layout was horizontal at the first boot but since the reboot the phone it's in vertical. How Can i change it please ?
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jeromejeremytay said:
During call, it is very difficult to pull down the notification bar. I need to pull it really towards the center of the screen to keep it there, else it will just roll up again.
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Yes facing that issue too
Check this animation issue attached. Are you facing same?
I had a factory reset then too facing it
rachitshah said:
Yes facing that issue too
Check this animation issue attached. Are you facing same?
I had a factory reset then too facing it
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