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Hi,
I recently bought a HTC Touch HD, and I think that the "shutdown-screen-when-you-answer-a-call" function of phones like Diamonds, Touch Pro and HD is the dumbest way to prevent accidental presses on the touch screen.
Our devices have a light sensor, that could be used to switch off the screen if the phone is near the ear (like the phone using an "i" word ) and keep it on when you answer with loudspeaker for example.
The "problem" with this function is that when you're already in a "no-light" environment, the screen lock function doesn't work.
To resolve this issue, I think we could use the G-Sensor. Indeed, if the place has no light, then, the phone cannot detect the proximity of a ear. But when you put the phone next to the ear, you hold it a the vertical...
To make it short, the app should do :
Do nothing in normal use.
When a call arrives :
- it monitors the ambient light
If there's light :
- when you answer the call, if there's light then no more (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches off the screen and continue to monitor.
- while in call, if there's light again (you want to see some info on the screen for example), it switches on the screen and continue to monitor.
- and so on until you end the call
If there's no light :
- when you answer the call, but let it at the horizontal (you let it on the desk for example), it does nothing
- if you take the phone on the vertical position (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches the screen off.
- if the phone, during a call, goes from vertical to horizontal of horizontal to vertical, the screen is switches on/of
- and so on until you end the call
Obviously, you could replace the "switch on/off screen" with "lock/unlock screen".
What do you think about ?
UPDATE :
After playing a bit with the HD, it appears that HTC DOES use the light sensor for turning the screen off during a call.
Let's do a test :
In a place with plenty light :
- put your mobile with the face up
- call a number (always face up) : the screen will not be switched off until the light sensor detects a loss of luminosity or a timeout set in the registry.
So, my conclusion is that HTC already use the light sensor to switch the screen off during a call, but they do it in an absurd way :
- they poll the sensor just to shut down the screen, not to switch it on.
- once the screen has been switched off, they do not longer poll at all.
Do you think it could be a way to "hack" their system to do what we want to do ?
no one has an opinion on this idea ? if there's nobody that want / have the time to develop a soft, I understand, but at least please, give me just your opinion
I agree with your idea for such an application. I must admit that I am very used to just pushing the power button when I answer a call (from Polaris use) to ensure I am not going into other programmes as I rub the phone against my ear. On the other hand I am trying to get used to the Touch HD's modern automatic method but I can't help not feeling relaxed that it has worked and keep trying to look at the screen in the corner of my eye to see if it did go off or not.
If it does not come now I am sure there will be such an app very soon just as you describe especially as all the latest models now have it.
i'd use the half of it that doesn't require the G-sensor as i don't have a diamond or HD...
but i'm certainly sick and tired of my ear operating my touch screen while i'm speaking.
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
fireweed said:
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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Maybe the simpliest way to "protect" the screen is to switch it off. I suppose it must be some API to do that ?
Concerning the "locking", I think the simpliest way is to put on focus an empty window (transparent if it can be ).
I'm really happy to know that you're working on an app like that
lpaso said:
Hi,
I recently bought a HTC Touch HD, and I think that the "shutdown-screen-when-you-answer-a-call" function of phones like Diamonds, Touch Pro and HD is the dumbest way to prevent accidental presses on the touch screen.
Our devices have a light sensor, that could be used to switch off the screen if the phone is near the ear (like the phone using an "i" word ) and keep it on when you answer with loudspeaker for example.
The "problem" with this function is that when you're already in a "no-light" environment, the screen lock function doesn't work.
To resolve this issue, I think we could use the G-Sensor. Indeed, if the place has no light, then, the phone cannot detect the proximity of a ear. But when you put the phone next to the ear, you hold it a the vertical...
To make it short, the app should do :
Do nothing in normal use.
When a call arrives :
- it monitors the ambient light
If there's light :
- when you answer the call, if there's light then no more (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches off the screen and continue to monitor.
- while in call, if there's light again (you want to see some info on the screen for example), it switches on the screen and continue to monitor.
- and so on until you end the call
If there's no light :
- when you answer the call, but let it at the horizontal (you let it on the desk for example), it does nothing
- if you take the phone on the vertical position (you stick the phone next to the ear), it switches the screen off.
- if the phone, during a call, goes from vertical to horizontal of horizontal to vertical, the screen is switches on/of
- and so on until you end the call
Indeed, you could replace the "switch on/off screen" with "lock/unlock screen".
What do you think about ?
I searched the forum for an existing app that could do this, but I didn't find anything.
If there's already an app that do this stuff, I'm truely sorry for this post.
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I'm looking for this.. If you find a solution send me a PM, I will do the same
Thanks!
We need this app, how does the iphone acheive this?
I think the 'easiest' way to make this app would be to keep the phone doing what it does currently (put the phone on standby when answering a call) then have the light sensor take the phone out of standby when it receives light, (taking it away from your ear)?
Obviously if its dark then we would have to use the power butten as we currently do now or have the Gsensor do it with a twisting motion (vertical to horizontal).
If anyone has an idea how to program this i'm willing to help in any way, the current systems seems so crude on such tech devices!
DB
lpaso said:
Hi,
I searched the forum for an existing app that could do this, but I didn't find anything.
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There a program, that can help you. Not full, but it can switch off screen, using g-sensor. However its using not vertical aligment of the phone. There are using changing orientation of the phone to decide when phone near the ear.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2622590&postcount=45
I have always wondered why our WM phones don't do what the iphone does...
For the SE Xperia X1, the light sensor is right near the earpiece (along with the little front facing camera), so it would go to virtually 100% darkness when near the ear. I would presume unless you are using the phone also in 100% darkness (which should be pretty rare I would guess) then it would work like the iphone.
I have also been quite annoyed by the fact that after a phonecall, sometimes I found i'm in a note taking program or weather program or something else. It just seems dumb, considering our phone HAVE these lightsensors?!
I think it's a fantastic idea to solve a VERY FRUSTRATING PROBLEM
lpaso said:
no one has an opinion on this idea ? if there's nobody that want / have the time to develop a soft, I understand, but at least please, give me just your opinion
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I would rank myself this way:
Not a newbie who's just gotten a touchscreen phone and is now discovering the quirks when holding screen to ear,
and not a developer,
but a power-user. I have installed all sorts of XDA-developed features/enhancements for my phone.
But now I have 4 years experience -- starting with the T-Mobile MDA, and its successor, the T-Mobile WING. And despite all of the advancements expected in that time, STILL, I inadvertently end a call, or put it on hold accidentally, ALL THE TIME. Between that and trying to retrieve the phone from my pocket just to answer the damn ringing phone, I would say I have, on the average, a 20% success rate -- and 80% of the time the call is disrupted. And at least once a day my ohone, in my pocket, even when using s2u2, manages to REDIAL my latest conversation, so mcuh so that all my friends say "why don;t you get rid of that phone. It does all these whiz bang things but still can't reliably manage a basic phone call.
My most recent experiment was to call someone, then when they answered, press the s2U2 key to lock the phone screen. Only I came to find out from A_C that this is no good: S2u2 does not have recognition that you're ending the call, thus, since it's in lock-mode, the "END CALL" or Hang-Up hard key does not work.
So by all means, I would even pay for an app that once and for all handles the baseline problems of simply making a phone call. Thanks for making this request.
fireweed, have you contacted A_C, author of s2u2 ?
There may just be perfect synergy between the two of you. His "best of breed" screen-lock app is widely used -- and other developers, like supbro, for example, author of iDialer, have collaborated on small code-bits from A_C to solve some integration problems.
If for any reason you are unfamiliar with A_C, go to his website: www.ac-s2.com -- where his apps are explained, and all link back to XDA.
He's even managed to make the screen lock work, yet, have it selectively overridden when you insert headphone jack -- such that his s2p (slide to play) app opens and allows you to switch music tracks etc while otherwise the screen and buttons are all fully locked...
fireweed said:
I've written a prototype to do exactly what you are talking about although the one crucial part I am missing is the lock code. Every example or suggestion for locking the screen is very hacky and never feels like a good approach. If anyone has a good solution for locking the screen (especially in managed code) I would be happy to complete what I have started and release it with source so it could be improved upon.
So far, the best locking utility I have seen is PocketShield although I'm not sure what approach was used for locking in that case. It almost feels like a form that captures all windows events but I'm not sure exactly.
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Hi,
After playing a bit with the HD, it appears that HTC DOES use the light sensor for turning the screen off during a call.
Let's do a test :
In a place with plenty light :
- put your mobile with the face up
- call a number (always face up) : the screen will not be switched off until the light sensor detects a loss of luminosity or the timeout set in the registry expires.
So, my conclusion is that HTC already use the light sensor to switch the screen off during a call, but they do it in an absurd way :
- they poll the sensor just to shut down the screen, not to switch it on.
- once the screen has been switched off, they do not longer poll at all.
Do you think it could be a way to "hack" their system to do what we want to do ?
I think HTC does not only switch off the display but goes to standby (phone works independent if you didn't know yet). Your idea is a lot different in terms of programming.
I don't know if it goes to standby : when the screen is switched off during a call, a press on any button switch it on again. In the registry, the key controlling the timeout before the screen is shut off is named "LightSensorToScreenOff" so I think it is just switching off the screen...
lpaso said:
I don't know if it goes to standby : when the screen is switched off during a call, a press on any button switch it on again. In the registry, the key controlling the timeout before the screen is shut off is named "LightSensorToScreenOff" so I think it is just switching off the screen...
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Well if thats the case, its HALF of what the iphone does... it turns off the screen based on the light sensor going dark suddenly (next to ear) but then fails to turn the screen back on after you move the phone away from your ear...
Anyone know how to enable this?
Interested in having this feature too. Isn't it possible to have the G-Sensor determine when the phone is vertical and shut the screen and then when it is lying flat to turn the screen back on again. Believe that the Iphone does it this way, not with the light sensor.
Hmm... I never had my ear 'navigating' my phone during in-call before....
I never allowed the screen to touch my face anyway, and the speaker is facing the ear canal, when I receive or make calls...
But i do understand that s2u2 can do what you guys might need, it locks the screen during in call.
Hennyb said:
Interested in having this feature too. Isn't it possible to have the G-Sensor determine when the phone is vertical and shut the screen and then when it is lying flat to turn the screen back on again. Believe that the Iphone does it this way, not with the light sensor.
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I think the Iphone has something called proximity sensor, which senses the distance from the ear to the phone, hence when the phone rest on the outer ear, the phone screen shut off.
Or am I wrong?
Section9 said:
I think the Iphone has something called proximity sensor, which senses the distance from the ear to the phone, hence when the phone rest on the outer ear, the phone screen shut off.
Or am I wrong?
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No, you're right. It uses an iR sensor to know if there's something near the phone.
So overall, great update to 4.4.4
But how would I go about changing just one aspect of the new update?
I would like to keep everything but take out the way the phone just disables anything involving gestures if there's something within close proximity to the sensor. First off, I never really had an issue with the phone turning on while in my pocket, or the torchlight turning on in the same situation. But now with the new update, I can't use the pause/play, next track, back track gestures because my finger accidently passes the sensor or a piece of paper is on top of the sensor OR the sensor "senses" the denim in front of it while the phone is in my jean's pocket.
Would I be looking for specific code in system files? Can I just go into build.prop and disable proximity sensor verifications? What am I even saying? Total noob.
No you cannot go into the build.prop and manually disable that feature. Its a feature thats built into the ROM and that would consist you of downloading from source and removing it yourself.
Thats too much work, if you really want the proximity sensor check off, you're best off downloading a custom ROM with this feature or you can just not touch the proximity sensor. The proximity sensor is at the top of the screen, not sure how you accidently passes the sensor and would hide it. The phone scans whether or not its blocked quite fast that it should realize that its not blocked by the time your hand reaches to the touch screen.
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Pocket Lock
Dump your power button! Pocket Lock automates locking and unlocking for you.
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Featured on Lifehacker! - "Pocket Lock actually works exactly as advertised, with no fuss, and that's what makes it such a cool app to have."
Pocket Lock intelligently locks and unlocks your phone for you. Choose from three different locking modes: proximity sensor only, gravity sensor only, and a fusion of both sensors. Just drop your phone in your pocket and it locks. Take it out and it unlocks. Pocket Lock is great for phones with broken power buttons or flip cases.
Pocket Lock is easy to set-up and forget, since it starts automatically on boot, but it also offers advanced customization options. The app is completely free and has no ads. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, use the Send feedback option in the app to email me directly.
Screenshots:
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Features:
* Intelligently locks your phone using the proximity and gravity sensor
* Works out of the box
* Intuitive options allow for easy customization
* Keeps your phone off when in your pocket. No more pocket pictures!
* Exclude applications
* Option to only lock or unlock your phone, great for Moto X Active Display
* Disable during phone calls
* Disable when screen is rotated
Notes:
Put your phone in your pocket upside down and with screen facing you for best results.
To uninstall, use the uninstall option in the app menu.
XDA:DevDB Information
Pocket Lock, App for all devices (see above for details)
Contributors
PaeP3nguin
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 2.4.8
Stable Release Date: 2017-08-20
Created 2014-08-29
Last Updated 2017-08-20
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FAQs:
Help, my phone keeps locking and I can't use it!
First, try turning your phone upside down and unlocking it. If that works, then you have an issue with your gravity sensor. If that doesn't work, them you have may an issue with your proximity sensor. Restart the phone and quickly open Pocket Lock and change the locking method to "Do not lock", then let me know!
How do I uninstall Pocket Lock?
Use the uninstall option in the Pocket Lock menu.
Why does my phone turn off when I'm using it?
This is likely because the proximity sensor is accidentally getting covered. Try setting the lock delay higher and be careful to avoid the proximity sensor with your fingers. If this still does not work, just change the lock method to not use the proximity sensor at all, which should eliminate the problem entirely.
Why doesn't Pocket Lock unlock my phone?
The Android operating system will slow down the rate of sensor events or even stop sensors when the screen is off in order to save power. While this is great for your battery life, this means that if your phone has been off for a while, Pocket Lock may not wake it up immediately. I have noticed that the proximity sensor seems less prone to this problem than the other sensors, so try covering and then uncovering the proximity sensor.
Why does Pocket Lock use so much battery?
Pocket Lock has to keep your phone's sensors on in order to lock and unlock the screen. Some sensor use more power than others, which will in turn use more battery. Check the Diagnostics page and look at the value for Proximity sensor power usage and Gravity sensor power usage. Change your lock method to only use whichever sensor has the lower value. Consider trying the accelerometer to save battery.
Why does my phone turn off in the dark?
That's your phone manufacturer cheaping out by not using a quality proximity sensor! I would suggest changing your lock method to not use the proximity sensor.
Excluded applications doesn't work!
Recent versions of Android broke the original way Pocket Lock detected what application was running. Please try out excluding at least one app before buying pro If you've bought pro and excluded apps doesn't work, forward your order confirmation to [email protected] and I'll refund you.
What if I only want Pocket Lock to lock/unlock my phone?
In the lock method setting, you can change the locking sensor or unlocking sensor to "Do not lock" or "Do not unlock"
What apps are Pocket Lock incompatible with?
Pocket Lock may not play well with apps like No Lock, SkipLock, custom lock screens, or anything that messes with the lock screen or how the phone locks. Pocket Lock should not cause problems for other apps, though, because it's nice
How can I make Pocket Lock work with delayed lock/smart lock/custom lock screens?
Enable the "Alternate screen off method" setting. Note that the screen may now take a few seconds to turn off.
Why does Pocket Lock need the permission "Device ID & call information: read phone status and identity"?
This is so that Pocket Lock can detect when you're in a call and not lock your phone.
Why does Pocket Lock need the permission to modify system settings?
This is only used if you use the Alternate screen off method. Instead of force-locking your screen, Pocket Lock simply changes your screen timeout to zero, then back to your original setting after locking.
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Privacy policy:
Pocket Lock does not store or transmit any of your data. Pocket Lock doesn't even access the internet. Pocket Lock only records one statistic: the number of times it has locked or unlocked your phone. The only way this is used is to display to you in the app.
Upcoming features:
Battery analysis: helps you customize settings to use the least amount of battery
Beta downloads:
None at the moment
Add an Active Screen based element. IE enable unlock method on notifications for a set amount of time. Also Pocket Mode (notifications turn screen on unless in the pocket). User could configure ongoing and low priority?
Last but not least: Blacklist
ahrion said:
Add an Active Screen based element. IE enable unlock method on notifications for a set amount of time. Also Pocket Mode (notifications turn screen on unless in the pocket). User could configure ongoing and low priority?
Last but not least: Blacklist
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Thanks for the suggestions! The blacklist is definitely on the to do list, though I want to make sure the basic functionality works well before starting on that. Pocket Mode is something I hadn't thought of that I'll have to look into. Right now, the app will relock the screen if a notification turns it on, though. Active screen is a cool idea, but I'm not sure if Pocket Lock's purpose warrants adding something like that. I believe there are already pretty good apps for that and Pocket Lock plays well with them. You can set Pocket Lock to just lock the screen and then those apps can unlock when they need to.
Must enter patern after every unlock?
This app sleeps and wakes display fine. However on every wake I must enter my pattern to unlock it. Is this by design?
whomiketodd said:
This app sleeps and wakes display fine. However on every wake I must enter my pattern to unlock it. Is this by design?
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Right now, that is how it works, yes. Eventually I will add some sort of delayed lock, like Android has naively, but for now, this most closely stimulates pushing the power button. If I just turn off the screen instead of locking the screen, Android may not enter a low power state. Thanks for using Pocket Lock!
Does this cause wakelocks to keep the screen active? How bad is it for battery life?
12gage said:
Does this cause wakelocks to keep the screen active? How bad is it for battery life?
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Pocket Lock does not use any wakelocks when the screen is on and only very briefly uses a wake lock when unlocking the screen (probably under 100ms). The biggest concern in terms of battery life is how much power your phone's sensors use. Generally, proximity sensor use less power, so if you're worried about power usage, change your lock method to only use the proximity sensor.
You can also check how many milliamps your sensors use on the Diagnostics page in the app.
Working great mate, I will be running it to see how well it works for my uses. Previously I lost my power button on my s3, since then I have been using a gestures to lock. With the home button being my goto button, well I would hate to lose it!
Hopefully this will be battery friendly and efficient for my uses. Thanks mate!
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kalans said:
Working great mate, I will be running it to see how well it works for my uses. Previously I lost my power button on my s3, since then I have been using a gestures to lock. With the home button being my goto button, well I would hate to lose it!
Hopefully this will be battery friendly and efficient for my uses. Thanks mate!
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Hey, great to hear! If you go to the Diagnostics page in the app and tell me the values for Proximity sensor power usage and Gravity sensor power usage, I can give you an estimate of how much power the app uses and what combination of sensors will use the least power.
Just uploaded the latest update onto the Google Play Store! Let me know what features you'd like to see in the next update. Right now, I'm thinking I'll add the option to use the accelerometer instead of the gravity sensor (saves power), and the option to change the proximity sensor sampling rate.
I tried your app yesterday and while it locked the phone just as expected when I put it in my pocket it took very long (about 2 seconds) to turn on the screen when I took it out of the pocket. I changed the turn on time to very low value (20ms) but that didn't change anything. Will see what the new update brings and if that changes anything.
adl said:
I tried your app yesterday and while it locked the phone just as expected when I put it in my pocket it took very long (about 2 seconds) to turn on the screen when I took it out of the pocket. I changed the turn on time to very low value (20ms) but that didn't change anything. Will see what the new update brings and if that changes anything.
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Hmm, that's rather strange. What phone are you using? It's possible that Android is slowing down the sensor events when the screen is off to save battery, so it might have taken a while to detect it was out of your pocket.
PaeP3nguin said:
Hmm, that's rather strange. What phone are you using? It's possible that Android is slowing down the sensor events when the screen is off to save battery, so it might have taken a while to detect it was out of your pocket.
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It's a Nexus 5 running the Slimkat Custom ROM. Not sure if that's helping...
I am trying the all "gravity screen on" now and it's turning the screen on instantly, so sensors shouldn't be the problem.
adl said:
It's a Nexus 5 running the Slimkat Custom ROM. Not sure if that's helping...
I am trying the all "gravity screen on" now and it's turning the screen on instantly, so sensors shouldn't be the problem.
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Hmm, strange. In the Pocket Lock settings, what is your lock method set to?
PaeP3nguin said:
Hmm, strange. In the Pocket Lock settings, what is your lock method set to?
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I left it on standard, so both methods.
I didn't change any other setting, only the setting I mentioned above. Well try the new version as soon as I see it in playstore (shows old version so for).
EDIT:
New version seems to work better/faster. I still uninstalled it, as i found out that for my phone usage i am better off without an automatic on/off app. I usually have my phone in the backpocket and before i sit down i take it out but don´t want it to turn actually on or i carry the phone around in my hands.
Anyway good luck with the app!
adl said:
I left it on standard, so both methods.
I didn't change any other setting, only the setting I mentioned above. Well try the new version as soon as I see it in playstore (shows old version so for).
EDIT:
New version seems to work better/faster. I still uninstalled it, as i found out that for my phone usage i am better off without an automatic on/off app. I usually have my phone in the backpocket and before i sit down i take it out but don´t want it to turn actually on or i carry the phone around in my hands.
Anyway good luck with the app!
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Good to hear the new version is working better. Hey, thanks for using Pocket Lock!
New update just uploaded. I've sort of given up on the gravity sensor. Even though it's supposed to be more accurate, it tends to use way more power and seems to have problems on Samsung phones. The next update will default to using the accelerometer, though there is an easy checkbox to disable that change.
Could you guys let me know what the Gravity sensor power usage and the Accelerometer sensor power usage values in the Diagnostics screen show? I'm pretty sure that the accelerometer should universally use less power.
Just downloaded this a few hours ago and it's been great. The app UI itself is nice, too!
I particularly like the vibrate/sound on lock and unlock. Any chance you'd let us pick our own sound in the future?
I finally picked up a U12 after Amazon had a 20% off sale on Warehouse Deals versions. It was basically new and I initially liked it. However, I'm likely returning it because the Motion launch gestures are extremely unreliable, especially when taking it out of my pocket. It seems that the proximity sensor doesn't immediately register that it's not in a pocket anymore. That, or it has to be more forcefully lifted UP, like you must do to activate the Ambient Display. I tried this with the Ambient display in both "always on" mode and "lift to check" mode. Same results. A majority of the time, I take my phone out of my pocket and go to double-tap on the screen and nothing happens. If I keep doing it, it works after a while. If I leave it lying on a table, it will pretty much always work, which is why I think it's a proximity/light sensor issue.
I have experienced this behavior before with other phones with double-tap-to-wake. In fact, LG and OnePlus seem to be the only ones that are 100% reliable for me.
Before anyone suggests it, NO, fingerprint wake-up is not an option. I interact with my lockscreen notifications almost exclusively throughout the day. I just want the screen to turn on when I tap on it twice, like it's supposed to and that's not happening. I also don't use power buttons. At all. I use my phone left-handed anyway, so that's not ideal. I'm not looking for a suggested work-around. I'm just seeing if anyone else experiences this and/or if there's something I'm missing. The phone is great otherwise, but this is a huge deal-breaker for me.
I got my OP7 Pro today. Double tap to wake with screen off doesn't seem to work. Anyone know what the secret is? What am I missing?
jdgesmlls said:
I got my OP7 Pro today. Double tap to wake with screen off doesn't seem to work. Anyone know what the secret is? What am I missing?
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You have to turn it on in display settings under ambient display. It's turned off by default, or at least mine was as well as pickup to show.
None of my screen off gestures are working...
truckerdewd said:
You have to turn it on in display settings under ambient display. It's turned off by default, or at least mine was as well as pickup to show.
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I think he means the feature is broken. It's not working for a bunch of us after the day-one update. It works when it wants to. OnePlus has done nothing to fix this and I'm just about ready to get my money back. Just because it's working fine for you doesn't mean we're doing something wrong.
Yeah, lock screen gestures and single/double tap don't work on the latest update, but I believe they're working on fixing it, going through repro steps right now according to their bug page. I'm sure it'll get fixed soon, and it's not a make or break issue to me by any means.
What version are you guys on?
I'm on oxygen 9.5.5 T-mobile gm1915 not having any issues.
I came here to find this out. It's works randomly.
I don't know what I did, but it is working now. I have rebooted twice and it has persisted so +1 on the issue being random. I more wanted to know if others were experiencing the same behavior. Thanks for the replies!
Having tested this, It works randomly during low light situations, and all the time in normal/extreme light situations, such as outside in the sun or in a bright room.
EchoX860 said:
Having tested this, It works randomly during low light situations, and all the time in normal/extreme light situations, such as outside in the sun or in a bright room.
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Yup. This is my issue.
So my double tap to wake completely stopped working. Single tap doesn't work at all either. Not happy at all right now. Completely stopped about a half hour ago. Reboots fix nothing.
Got my phone yesterday and rooted 10 min after opening it and took update to 9.5.3. no issues at work double or single tap to wake. Used it all night setting it up and playing with it. Lit room or dark. It's been pretty consistent so far. There is an occasional time I have to tap a second time but still work on the 2nd try.
Not sure why it's random like that. Only thing I can think of is after the update... Did any of you do a factory reset? Maybe some reminant install files are causing some issues
Eric214 said:
Got my phone yesterday and rooted 10 min after opening it and took update to 9.5.3. no issues at work double or single tap to wake. Used it all night setting it up and playing with it. Lit room or dark. It's been pretty consistent so far. There is an occasional time I have to tap a second time but still work on the 2nd try.
Not sure why it's random like that. Only thing I can think of is after the update... Did any of you do a factory reset? Maybe some reminant install files are causing some issues
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I must be blind but how do you unlock the bootloader and root this phone? Thx
equlizer said:
I must be blind but how do you unlock the bootloader and root this phone? Thx
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In developer options you have to turn on oem unlocking and USB defining. Have ADB and fastboot SDK installed on PC. Then while in the bootloader type... Fastboot oem unlock.
To root you need Magisk. Follow this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/guide-root-oneplus-7-pro-patched-boot-t3931205
The people here saying that it has to do with light are right. I have tested this myself. Even in fairly lit rooms, if the light isn't shining directly on the ambient light sensor, Ambient Display, double-tap-to-wake, and lift-to-wake are all completely disabled. If you shine a flashlight on the light sensor, they suddenly become available. This means that if you aren't using the phone in broad daylight or VERY well lit rooms, you have to hit the power button. Aside from the inconsistency of functionality that creates, I haven't used a power button to wake my phone in 3 years. I certainly hope they plan to fix this soon, as I'm of a mind to return the phone right now. This makes it very annoying to use on a daily basis for me. I keep my house fairly dark at night when I'm watching TV.
For some reason, OnePlus has it using the ambient light sensor rather than the proximity sensor and/or gyroscope for these features. This is not how it should work.
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The people here saying that it has to do with light are right. I have tested this myself. Even in fairly lit rooms, if the light isn't shining directly on the ambient light sensor, Ambient Display, double-tap-to-wake, and lift-to-wake are all completely disabled. If you shine a flashlight on the light sensor, they suddenly become available. This means that if you aren't using the phone in broad daylight or VERY well lit rooms, you have to hit the power button. Aside from the inconsistency of functionality that creates, I haven't used a power button to wake my phone in 3 years. I certainly hope they plan to fix this soon, as I'm of a mind to return the phone right now. This makes it very annoying to use on a daily basis for me. I keep my house fairly dark at night when I'm watching TV.
For some reason, OnePlus has it using the ambient light sensor rather than the proximity sensor and/or gyroscope for these features. This is not how it should work.
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But it seems it's different from device to device ? Double tap to wake, the lift feature and the only one tap to activate ambient light works in all light conditions for me.
Just a thought....is there an option to avoid accidental touches when in a pocket? This might explain why it works in well lit rooms and not in dark rooms.
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The people here saying that it has to do with light are right. I have tested this myself. Even in fairly lit rooms, if the light isn't shining directly on the ambient light sensor, Ambient Display, double-tap-to-wake, and lift-to-wake are all completely disabled. If you shine a flashlight on the light sensor, they suddenly become available. This means that if you aren't using the phone in broad daylight or VERY well lit rooms, you have to hit the power button. Aside from the inconsistency of functionality that creates, I haven't used a power button to wake my phone in 3 years. I certainly hope they plan to fix this soon, as I'm of a mind to return the phone right now. This makes it very annoying to use on a daily basis for me. I keep my house fairly dark at night when I'm watching TV.
For some reason, OnePlus has it using the ambient light sensor rather than the proximity sensor and/or gyroscope for these features. This is not how it should work.
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Yes! That reproduces the issue exactly for me. I am sure this is not the only one, but this thread on OnePlus support forums reports the issue.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-7-pro-ambient-display-not-working.1034009/
You can see users reporting the problems inconsistency, and OnePlus seems to acknowledge the problem and they are "looking into it". Please go add your feedback as I am sure the more people that complain, the higher priority the bug will become.
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But it seems it's different from device to device ? Double tap to wake, the lift feature and the only one tap to activate ambient light works in all light conditions for me.
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This is where the inconsistency of the issue occurs... I am in my office which is lit the same way each day since I got the device (low light). The off screen gestures magically started working about 6 hours after I got the phone and were working up until this morning. Put the device close to a light source while the screen is dark, and you will see it wake up with no interaction with the screen. Screen off gestures work while in that lighting. I forced closed, cleared storage/cache of the Ambient display service and my phone now works in all lighting. It is almost as if the sensor becomes stuck in 'pocket mode' or something like that.
I noticed some funny:
Which cases are you using?
I was with the one in the box until now and everything worked fine (ambient display, double tap to wake, one tap to show fingerprint, wake when lifting up the phone,...). I'm with the Nylon case since a few minutes and since then the ambient display won't work anymore.
Maybe there's something related?
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This is where the inconsistency of the issue occurs... I am in my office which is lit the same way each day since I got the device (low light). The off screen gestures magically started working about 6 hours after I got the phone and were working up until this morning. Put the device close to a light source while the screen is dark, and you will see it wake up with no interaction with the screen. Screen off gestures work while in that lighting. I forced closed, cleared storage/cache of the Ambient display service and my phone now works in all lighting. It is almost as if the sensor becomes stuck in 'pocket mode' or something like that.
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Yes, you're totally right! I tested it! When light is shining on the display, my tap gestures will work again. I forced closed and cleared storage of ambient display but unfortunately it doesn't change my current situation, at the moment it won't work... ?
I can confirm this as well. In dark or even dim rooms, I must use the power button to turn the screen on, in well lit environments, I can use tap to wake. Hopefully this can be fixed in an upcoming update.
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