Bluetooth 5 / aptX HD - Essential Phone Accessories

Has anyone used any Bluetooth 5 or aptX HD bluetooth head phones with this device yet? I am needing some in ear bluetooth headphones but not really seeing anything on either of these two now that they are available/enabled on our devices. I know there are not really many options yet but curious if there are any early adopters that can give some insight
Anyone have any reviews? Looking for good audio quality but really not wanting to spend money if there really isnt much improvement.

8.1 (I think) brought aptX HD compatibility. I have a bluetooth headset that connects with aptX HD and it works fine.

rambleon84 said:
Has anyone used any Bluetooth 5 or aptX HD bluetooth head phones with this device yet? I am needing some in ear bluetooth headphones but not really seeing anything on either of these two now that they are available/enabled on our devices. I know there are not really many options yet but curious if there are any early adopters that can give some insight
Anyone have any reviews? Looking for good audio quality but really not wanting to spend money if there really isnt much improvement.
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8.1 has aptX for sure. Don't have aptX HD headphones, but pretty sure it works too! I got Major II headphones (aptX) and the sound is great if you ask me.

/\ Interesting, thanks for the screen grabs. I didnt realize LDAC was available on non-sony devices. I may have to include them in my headphone search.

My Sony WH-1000XM2 work mighty fine with LDAC on the PH-1.

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My Sony WH-1000XM2 work mighty fine with LDAC on the PH-1.
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glad to hear that, ill be checking out some of their in ear versions. I want something i can be a bit more active in vs full on/over ear but happy to have another higher quality option to look into

Apt X HD isn't a brand new codec like some people here seem to think but it's more widely supported on Android Oreo. I have used Bluetooth headphones on this phone with Apt X, Apt X HD and SBC. The Bluetooth version the headphones use is more important than the codec. Bluetooth headphones with Apt X and BT 4.1 are far preferable to ones with Apt X HD and BT 4.0. Don't buy any BT 4.0 headphones even if they seem like a fantastic deal or they get great reviews. BT 4.1 transmits data far more quickly than 4.0 and is much better suited for listening to music. BT 4.0 is also susceptible to interference from the phone's data signal and other sources. That's much less of an issue with 4.1.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/in-ear-headphones/wi-h700/specifications#features
Well so far these sound the most interesting, bluetooth 4.1 but they support all of these formats: SBC, AAC, aptX, aptX HD, LDAC
Would let me play around and listen for which sound best to my ears

I just got the EarStudio ES100 which has dual DACs and supports AptX HD so you can use any of your favorite wired phones with it. If you want don't need the dual DACs, there's plenty of AptX HD receivers on Amazon as well.

LG Tone Platinum HBS-1100 support APTX-HD. They have been working great for me. 10 hour battery life and great sound quality.

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hey! is the aptx codec enabled automatically on the htc one s? ie. it will automatically choose aptx when the receiving device supports it? cheers, thomas
I've tried to test this myself at a friends house with some ZiiSound D5X speakers, and subjectively there was a bit better audio quality compared to an A2DP-only HTC Desire. Hard to tell though might be Beats "improvements" that we heard rather than any difference due to Apt-X. Is there a way to even see when Apt-X is active?

Does the new XZ Premium support LDAC as well ?

I hope it does because I can't find it on GSMArena's spec sheet.
Yes,it will. LDAC is supported from Z2(i think).
Actually all the flagship phones after Z3+ support LDAC.
Enhanced Bluetooth streaming
Enjoy near Hi-Res sound with wireless headphones or speakers
If you’re connecting to wireless speakers or headphones, LDAC ensures you don’t lose a drop of sound quality. It transfers three times more audio data than normal Bluetooth, so every note is crystal-clear.
Will the ringtones be louder in the new Xperia XZ premium? Any first hand knowledge? I hate the low ringtones in all prior models.

USB-C Audio and HiFi music (audiophile question)

I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
Nihonno said:
I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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Thanks for the clarification. I haven't used the USB audio player yet. I'm really enjoying Amazon Music HD. Some of the remastered u
UHD songs are good but some of the more recent UHD content like Chainsmokers' albums sound phenomenal. I'll check out the audio player to see how it works.

Why my BT earphones (aptx) gives latency while friend's (also aptx) doesn't?

Hi all,
My Phone :Redmi K20 Pro (Android 10, MIUI 11)
My BT Earphones : Soundcore Spirit X2 (bit .ly /39cIMH8)
My Friend's BT Earphones : Tagg Inferno (bit .ly /2vGCli5)
I'm hoping you guys have goggled the Specs of both the earphones. I personally feel Spirit X2 is a better product than the Inferno considering the Tech Specs.
I have done little research myself and came across these terms. Aptx, AptxHD, Aptx LL. My understanding is that, Aptx LL gives the least latency among the other codecs and to my surprise there are very few BT Earphones that come with Aptx LL Support. (sennheiser momentum TWS being one among such few)
My BT Earphones supports Aptx and my Friend's BT Earphones also supports Aptx. (only aptx in both cases) I Used to have Soundstream h2GO TWS. (Worthless Product with no Aptx)
These h2GO TWS (amzn. to/3dlJtBl) gave latency while playing Pubg Mobile and I thought it was normal. But when my friend said he was not experiencing such latency issue with his BT Earphones, I tested his BT Earphones with my phone and genuinely there wasn't any latency.
I bought Soundcore Spirit X2 under the presumption that they will give low latency (while playing Pubg) just like my friend's, since they come with Aptx Support. However my new BT Earphones (Spirit X2) is giving latency just like any other BT Earphone.
I tested many times. Infact I did most test runs an average techie person would do. (trying the pair over several phones, trying my friend's pair over several phones)
Tagg Inferno hadn't given latency on any phone that was compatible with aptx codec. But mine just sucked.
What I would like to know is - in what way his BT Earphones are different to mine? Why are his BT earphones not giving latency and mine giving latency while playing Pubg Mobile despite both having Aptx. Mine has better specs than his. (Bluetooth version.... and maybe few other)
I'm also attaching screenshots of the Specs.
One last thing, Tagg Inferno has this CSR Chipset Technology. Will that have any bearing on my Question? ?
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Sound Quality

Ok, so I have an LG V20 with built in quad DAC and Dolby atmos installed. I used the wired head phones that came with the V20 (B&O) which are maybe a little better than mediocre. The quad DAC works only with wired head phones. (yes there is a way around that, but I didn't do it) My LG Bluetooth platinum head phones sound better than the B&O, but then the quad DAC doesn't kick in on the V20.
I'm using Poweraudio Free for a music player. There are no ads and I don't see much difference between free and pro. (If I keep it, I'll buy the pro)
I first got the sound level of each phone as close together as I could.
To get close to the sound of the V20, I first selected in moto audio "music" and "flat". I then chose the Rock setting from the Poweraudio list of presets, then bumped up the 60 hz and 230 hz setting in the equalizer. I then increased bassboost to 4.8 and virtualizer to 6.6.
I played a song from Black Sabbath's 13 album which is fairly new so the recording quality is good. It is also heavy on bass and guitar.
Results: Very, very close. The V20 sounded a little more open, probably because of the Atmos app, and the Stylus sounded a little cleaner. Overall, hardly any difference.
Much better headphones may yield different results, but I won't be buying any of those. Cheaper head phones you might not be able to tell any difference. The bottom line is that the stylus has very good sound.
Edit: I did a Bluetooth comparison. I had to bump the the 60 hz and 230 hz back down, reduce bassboost to 4.2 and virtualizer up to 7.0 to get a similar sound. The V20 was a little more "open", but the Stylus was very close. Whenever the gym opens back up and I'm there doing a workout, I'll never know the difference. $800 phone 3 years ago versus a $300 phone now.
A DAC aware music player, and a USB-C DAC dongle of course, with wired headphones are the best combination I've found. As to music players that are DAC aware and will directly drive your dongle, bypassing the limitations of the Android Audio stack, HibyMusic is free and sounds good. I strongly dislike the interface. Neutron is a bit pricey but has a decent interface and is what I currently use. Onkyo has a paid version that is DAC aware but I've not tried that one. FiiO is free and should work as well, but again, I've not tried it.
A DAC will do a lot for your music and is worth the extra bulk and hassle.
huge manatee said:
A DAC aware music player, and a USB-C DAC dongle of course, with wired headphones are the best combination I've found. As to music players that are DAC aware and will directly drive your dongle, bypassing the limitations of the Android Audio stack, HibyMusic is free and sounds good. I strongly dislike the interface. Neutron is a bit pricey but has a decent interface and is what I currently use. Onkyo has a paid version that is DAC aware but I've not tried that one. FiiO is free and should work as well, but again, I've not tried it.
A DAC will do a lot for your music and is worth the extra bulk and hassle.
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A good news: Dolby now can be disabled with USB C digital headphones. It gives 100% unaltered audio

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