hey! is the aptx codec enabled automatically on the htc one s? ie. it will automatically choose aptx when the receiving device supports it? cheers, thomas
I've tried to test this myself at a friends house with some ZiiSound D5X speakers, and subjectively there was a bit better audio quality compared to an A2DP-only HTC Desire. Hard to tell though might be Beats "improvements" that we heard rather than any difference due to Apt-X. Is there a way to even see when Apt-X is active?
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I ask because I came from a Nexus S and got so use to the ability to have amazing sound with Voodoo Sound project, and this was because Samsung didn't take full use of the DAC that they used in the Galaxy S line of phones.
I am curious of there is a way to find out what is processing our sound so once we get S-Off and custom roms we can do some things to improve the quality and volume of the headphones and speaker.
According to Anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4471/htc-sensation-4g-review-a-sensational-smartphone/8
the Sensation uses TI's TLV320AIC3254, and the specs are:
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tlv320aic3254.html
I do notice that the sound quality thorough headphone is significantly better than my HTC Desire. Wouldn't mind if it can be improved even more.
tsekh501 said:
According to Anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4471/htc-sensation-4g-review-a-sensational-smartphone/8
the Sensation uses TI's TLV320AIC3254, and the specs are:
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tlv320aic3254.html
I do notice that the sound quality thorough headphone is significantly better than my HTC Desire. Wouldn't mind if it can be improved even more.
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Yep, no more hissing noise like it was on the desire.
lol, the DAC is from 2008, wonder why they are using that old hardware :s
So it doesn't look like we will be as lucky to really get alot more out of the DAC then what HTC has given us, at least hardware wise.
I think the audio codec is the same one on the Desire HD, and according to Anandtech, the camera sensor is the same too, although the image processing on the new dual-core Snapdragon is superior and thus giving better image capturing quality (and software image processing algorithm plays an important role too).
Giving how HTC rolls out new flagship device a few times a year, it probably makes sense (no punt intended) for them to change only a few components at a time.
Utking said:
lol, the DAC is from 2008, wonder why they are using that old hardware :s
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Doesn't mean it's bad.
lianw said:
Doesn't mean it's bad.
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No ofc not i was just thinking since they have all of the other hardware up to date
But it sounds good through my headphones so i'm happy!
It's a pity it sounds bad through bluetooth though=/
Utking said:
No ofc not i was just thinking since they have all of the other hardware up to date
But it sounds good through my headphones so i'm happy!
It's a pity it sounds bad through bluetooth though=/
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Audio codecs don't change much. Mostly it comes down to power consumption. That is really a good codec. It has potential, but the codec in the galaxy s series is a much nicer one. I think we could tweak it, but we would need somebody that know how to work with drivers. We can always squeeze a little bit more out of things like audio codecs and camera software.
Yeah the Nexus S voodoo control had alot of nice options, as far as enabling the higher playback and record bitrates and sample rates. It had the option for jitter control.
Im not saying it should be the same, but anything we could do to make it better would be better, mainly the speaker volume if this could be controlled. And maybe a headphone amp
My background for Audio is Samsung P2-P3 and Cowon J3 as dedicated MP3 players, HTC M7,M8 and M9 as for smartphones.
Tested earphones are the stock bundled HTC iem, Hifiman RE-262 and RE-272
Tested BT are HTC Car Stereoclip and Sony SBH-50
The HTC bundled iem didn't sound well because the sound was somehow plasticky and cheap nothing to do with the bundled Beats earphones that were bundled with some old HTC phones, so I will focus on the Hifiman sound.
Hifiman RE-272 is a 20 Ohm pair of iem that normally need an additional AMP or DAC like a Fiio or HM801, but since the M8 HTC is integrating a professional DAC, the M9 and the A9 got a 24bit/192khz chip, though it looks like the A9 Amp is louder.
The HTC A9 has what is called Boomsound which will make the bass and mids better without getting muddy, this mode will also boost the overall loudness.
I tried the RE-272 on the LG G4 that has no Amp or DAC and the sound volume was low and without the crisp details the RE-272 should give, the HTC A9 is the total opposite!
Bass is deep and powerful even if these Hifiman were not known to be bassy, Bass even though high and deep will not overshadow on mids and treble.
Details are superbly present and crisp.
Soundstage is as wide as the RE-272 can go meaning very wide.
Mids and highs are pretty well balanced, they are well boosted without losing in quality.
Tested with Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Infected Mushrooms, some Trance tracks and the new album of Astrix He.Art.
Volume is pretty high,I like high volumes with Psytrance tunes but with the A9 + RE-272 I can't put them at max because they are too loud, but even at max sound is not distorded at all.
So these A9 can drive correctly a 20 Ohm RE-272 meaning they are perfect for all kinds of audiophile earphones.
Bluetooth:
The HTC A9 is capable of aptx + BT 4.1 like its predecessors M9 and M8 but the BT chip is now louder, paired with my HTC Car Stereoclip which are aptx and BT 4.0, sound never been so loud, bass so deep and details crystal clear, it even better when using V4A to boost even more the volume.
A9 vs M9: They probably share the same DAC but the Amp is different, the sound signature of the A9 is a bit more dynamic too, loudness is better.
A9 vs G4 As said before it's a whole universe of difference, sound is not only 3x louder but sound quality and details are way better than G4.
A9 vs Iphone 6+: My friend who has an iphone 6+ and I tested the difference between his phone and A9, the A9 wins with a slightly better audio quality and even a bit more loudness.
Well while waiting for the HTC M10 that would most probably use the same DAC/Amp the HTC A9 is undoubtedly the king of Audio on smartphones, and I recommend it highly for audiophiles.
I listen to a lot of music on my phone especially on headphones, I use poweramp but find I need to turn boomsound off for a better experience I have some Sony over ear headphones, my previous phone was a nexus 6p the sound was nowhere near as good as the A9, single biggest reason I'm a HTC fan from M7 on sound has been impressive...
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What phone has better audio (dac), HTC A9 or HTC 10 ?
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What phone has better audio (dac), HTC A9 or HTC 10 ?
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Hard to say.... I don't have the 10 yet but I would guess it's damn near the same from the specs really. The HTC 10 is newer so it's better but not by a huge range is what I'm getting at lol. I could be wrong idk
Someone knows which Amp and Audio-Codec is used ?
HTC just says Hi-Fi HD Amp with 24bit/192khz and Dobly.
Samsung with the S7 and BQ with the Aquarius X5 Plus where more precise (Even if both are only able to play up to 96khz/24bit) both are using the Qualcomm WCD9335.
For the HTC 10 (I bet the A9 uses the same dedicated Stuff) , AndroidCentral used RMAA to test the Audio-Quality. :
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-audio-testing-boomsound-evolved
I have to agree with this post. By a fair margin the A9 is louder while stunningly crisp even at full power with my Aiaiai TMA-2 Nextbit Robin editions. Better than every other device i've tried(20+).
Has anyone used any Bluetooth 5 or aptX HD bluetooth head phones with this device yet? I am needing some in ear bluetooth headphones but not really seeing anything on either of these two now that they are available/enabled on our devices. I know there are not really many options yet but curious if there are any early adopters that can give some insight
Anyone have any reviews? Looking for good audio quality but really not wanting to spend money if there really isnt much improvement.
8.1 (I think) brought aptX HD compatibility. I have a bluetooth headset that connects with aptX HD and it works fine.
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Has anyone used any Bluetooth 5 or aptX HD bluetooth head phones with this device yet? I am needing some in ear bluetooth headphones but not really seeing anything on either of these two now that they are available/enabled on our devices. I know there are not really many options yet but curious if there are any early adopters that can give some insight
Anyone have any reviews? Looking for good audio quality but really not wanting to spend money if there really isnt much improvement.
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8.1 has aptX for sure. Don't have aptX HD headphones, but pretty sure it works too! I got Major II headphones (aptX) and the sound is great if you ask me.
/\ Interesting, thanks for the screen grabs. I didnt realize LDAC was available on non-sony devices. I may have to include them in my headphone search.
My Sony WH-1000XM2 work mighty fine with LDAC on the PH-1.
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My Sony WH-1000XM2 work mighty fine with LDAC on the PH-1.
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glad to hear that, ill be checking out some of their in ear versions. I want something i can be a bit more active in vs full on/over ear but happy to have another higher quality option to look into
Apt X HD isn't a brand new codec like some people here seem to think but it's more widely supported on Android Oreo. I have used Bluetooth headphones on this phone with Apt X, Apt X HD and SBC. The Bluetooth version the headphones use is more important than the codec. Bluetooth headphones with Apt X and BT 4.1 are far preferable to ones with Apt X HD and BT 4.0. Don't buy any BT 4.0 headphones even if they seem like a fantastic deal or they get great reviews. BT 4.1 transmits data far more quickly than 4.0 and is much better suited for listening to music. BT 4.0 is also susceptible to interference from the phone's data signal and other sources. That's much less of an issue with 4.1.
https://www.sony.com/electronics/in-ear-headphones/wi-h700/specifications#features
Well so far these sound the most interesting, bluetooth 4.1 but they support all of these formats: SBC, AAC, aptX, aptX HD, LDAC
Would let me play around and listen for which sound best to my ears
I just got the EarStudio ES100 which has dual DACs and supports AptX HD so you can use any of your favorite wired phones with it. If you want don't need the dual DACs, there's plenty of AptX HD receivers on Amazon as well.
LG Tone Platinum HBS-1100 support APTX-HD. They have been working great for me. 10 hour battery life and great sound quality.
Can anyone confirm the codecs supported?
My HTC 11+ supported all, SBC, AAC, aptx, aptx-hd and Ldac.
I know the Nex supports aptx and Ldac but does it support AAC? I"m tempted by the Bose qc35s but not if I"m limited to SBC.
Any assistance appreciated.
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All I can say is that AAC is listed under developer options/bluetooth codecs.
When I am using the Bose Soundsport the chosen codec is the SBC and AptX for the Sennheiser Momentum.
Cheers
Has any of you had the chance to compare Vivo Nex S audio chipset to other great DAC's like for example... The Axon7?
How would you put it, headphone jack plugged, sound wise quality?
Thank you.
Haven't had the opportunity to compare with the axon 7 but have compared to Galaxy Note 9. With the HiFi turned on in the Vivo Nex settings and the adjustting the equalizer settings, the Vivo blows the Note 9 away. (using Bose qc35 plugged in by the way). Also... When using headphones that are plugged in, you have access to more audio settings that are not available when using headphones via Bluetooth.
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All I can say is that AAC is listed under developer options/bluetooth codecs.
When I am using the Bose Soundsport the chosen codec is the SBC and AptX for the Sennheiser Momentum.
Cheers
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Thanks, I tested with a friends beats and my 66 Audio BTS and they both used SBC but used AAC on my HTC U11+.
Its a pity.
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Has any of you had the chance to compare Vivo Nex S audio chipset to other great DAC's like for example... The Axon7?
How would you put it, headphone jack plugged, sound wise quality?
Thank you.
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I'd put it comparable with the Axon 7 but behind the LG G6's quad dac.
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Thank you guys so much for the feedback!
That's exactly what I needed to know. ?
I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
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I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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Thanks for the clarification. I haven't used the USB audio player yet. I'm really enjoying Amazon Music HD. Some of the remastered u
UHD songs are good but some of the more recent UHD content like Chainsmokers' albums sound phenomenal. I'll check out the audio player to see how it works.