I have a weird need. I want google play services but no access to the play store. I discovered thorught that the play services "require" the google play store to be installed for the play services to work. So I wanted to know if their is some sort of fake play store apk that I can install that will allow the play services to work without the play store?
Any other ideas would be appreciated.
I am on a moto e4 qualcomm stock rooted. And I dont have a way to enable signature spoofing since its odexed.
I need the same. Google play services and full functionality with Gmail, Maps etc, without PlayStore. Any ideas?
I found something called "FakeStore", which simulates the existence of Play Store, however I have installed it in replacement of PlayStore, but applications such as Gmail and Notes still do not work, just as if PlayStore did not exist.
I'm still investigating.
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The FakeStore needs a patch called "FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE" to work.
This is the link of that patch, but I can not find a way to implement it, if someone can shed some light it would be appreciated.
feanor_twh said:
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The FakeStore needs a patch called "FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE" to work.
This is the link of that patch, but I can not find a way to implement it, if someone can shed some light it would be appreciated.
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Use fake store from MicroG download site.
You can use Aurora Store if you want access to playstore packages without using "Don't be evil".
Need some fake store spoofer to let apps think there is a playstore install for some of thoughs dependent apps that rely so much on daddy. So we can just get on with it.
After rooting my pixel I lost my google play protection certification. I have reflashed the stock image but I am still showing Play Protection Certification: Uncertified in the play store. Is there a way to get it back?
If you're using Magisk just flag play store in magisk hide, clean play store data and cache and reboot.
With this method now my play store is showing certified :good:
TENN3R said:
If you're using Magisk just flag play store in magisk hide, clean play store data and cache and reboot.
With this method now my play store is showing certified :good:
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thanks, I've been looking for a solution for Google Pay to work for many hours, your solution makes it working, thanks!
I have a pixel 7 pro. Yesterday I had to clear the cache and data on Google Play services. After that the Google wallet, quick setting tile as well as the shortcut on my lock screen are gone. The quick setting tile is great out and says" wallet unavailable." I have tried clearing data and cache on the wallet and GPay. Nothing will work. What do I do?
I can add cards and ready it for NFC payments. To use it though. I would have to open my phone and open the app every time. The quick setting tile and lock screen route are much better.
Is your device rooted?
Try using the safetynet-fix 2.0 mod and shamiko (doesn't require lsposed, just a module made by them).
To use shamiko you turn off "Enforce DenyList" before flashing as shamiko module does that using the "Configure DenyList" and hides more aspects of magisk/zygisk.
I have wallet working fine.
I have not added any Google apps to DenyList.
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Is your device rooted?
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Yes. But I'm able to add a card and even to turn on scanning to pay. I just need to open the app. I wasn't required to do this before.
TotallyAnxious said:
Try using the safetynet-fix 2.0 mod and shamiko (doesn't require lsposed, just a module made by them).
To use shamiko you turn off "Enforce DenyList" before flashing as shamiko module does that using the "Configure DenyList" and hides more aspects of magisk/zygisk.
I have wallet working fine.
I have not added any Google apps to DenyList.
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I have the latest safety net fix. I am not using shamiko. I didn't need it before. Idk what would have changed to require it now.
Schroeder09 said:
I have the latest safety net fix. I am not using shamiko. I didn't need it before. Idk what would have changed to require it now.
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You *checks notes* reported a problem and asked for helped and turned down the first suggestion given. Mkay.
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You *checks notes* reported a problem and asked for helped and turned down the first suggestion given. Mkay.
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It's more of a question. You don't have to be defensive. Why all of a sudden is this required when it wasn't before? Is Google known to do things on the server side that randomly breaks the magisk hide functionality? I know people struggle with it a lot, but it's usually been pretty stable for me.
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It's more of a question. You don't have to be defensive. Why all of a sudden is this required when it wasn't before? Is Google known to do things on the server side that randomly breaks the magisk hide functionality? I know people struggle with it a lot, but it's usually been pretty stable for me.
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Google is known to do this. Server side updates.
You didn't ask a question. You said I'm not going to using shamiko. Which is a complete rebuff of my suggestion.
Edit: magisk hide? Are you using magisk delta and or other unofficial magisk build?
Shamiko generally isn't required unless you're trying to specifically hide root, which is not necessary for Google Wallet, which relies exclusively on Play Integrity to report device state. I try to ensure I fully understand what the problem is before I offer solutions.
@Schroeder09 have you tried clearing Wallet data? You may have to re-add cards but it sounds like a bug
Schroeder09 said:
I have the latest safety net fix. I am not using shamiko. I didn't need it before. Idk what would have changed to require it now.
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Please note that SafetyNet has been discontinued and replaced by Play Integrity. More information here. Just for the sake of eliminating possibilities, can you download Play Integrity Checker and post your response? You should have BASIC and DEVICE green, STRONG red.
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Well...to be fair, it seems like your response assumed he was having a certification/attestation failure, and threw a bunch of unnecessary stuff at him. Shamiko generally isn't required unless you're trying to specifically hide root, which is not necessary for Google Wallet, which relies exclusively on Play Integrity to report device state.
Let's not be disrespectful, folks.
@Schroeder09 have you tried clearing Wallet data? You may have to re-add cards but it sounds like a bug
Please note that SafetyNet has been discontinued and replaced by Play Integrity. More information here. Just for the sake of eliminating possibilities, can you download Play Integrity Checker and post your response? You should have BASIC and DEVICE green, STRONG red.
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I made a suggestion and explained my suggestion. That's not throwing too much at someone.
If you read the original post you'd would see that they cleared data already.
Given that everything was working prior, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance as this isn't a attestation/certification issue.
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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Google is known to do this. Server side updates.
You didn't ask a question. You said I'm not going to using shamiko. Which is a complete rebuff of my suggestion.
Edit: magisk hide? Are you using magisk delta and or other unofficial magisk build?
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What I meant was I currently do not have it. I already have safety net fix 2.3.1 and what's always been enough. Not that I will not use it. I didn't mean that.
I have YASNAC and integrity checker. Both pass. Google Play store says my device is certified. This happened after clearing the cache and data from Google Play services. That's all I did. Again, the apps themselves are functioning. The quick tile and the lock screen access for the wallet are what is no longer functioning.
V0latyle said:
Again, mind your tone, disrespect will not be tolerated here.
You offered a solution without understanding what the problem is, and from my own experience, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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Delete my posts if you want act this way.
V0latyle said:
Again, mind your tone, disrespect will not be tolerated here.
You offered a solution without understanding what the problem is, and from my own experience, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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I did clear cache and data from Google pay and g pay after this happen. Yes, I did have to re-add the cards and set everything back up. I did not remove my account from the Google app. I will do them all simultaneously and report back. Thanks.
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Delete my posts if you want act this way.
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Folks, please try to stay on topic and refrain from personal quibbles. If you have a concern that is not related to the content of the thread or its posts, then this is not the place for it. If you have a specific comment about V0latyle's advice, you are more than welcome to raise it here, but I ask that you do so in a way that is civil and reasonable.
Thanks for helping to keep the board clean.
Schroeder09 said:
I did clear cache and data from Google pay and g pay after this happen. Yes, I did have to re-add the cards and set everything back up. I did not remove my account from the Google app. I will do them all simultaneously and report back. Thanks.
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Right, I think you may need to set things back up in a specific order though. Try the steps I suggested.
I want to reiterate that while I don't have anything in particular against Shamiko, I don't think it will help in this circumstance because you're already passing Play Integrity. Shamiko is intended to help hide Magisk, Zygisk, and the su binary, all of which are not necessary for Google apps.
I just checked and Wallet is working fine for me without Shamiko. The only thing I have installed is Displax's SafetyNet fix mod and I've added all Google apps to DenyList (may not be necessary but it doesn't break anything either) including both Wallet and GPay since I have both apps on my phone.
I think we all might be getting tunnel vision into thinking this is a SafetyNet or Magisk issue -- when I think it could be Wallet and/or a bug connecting it to its Quick Tile...
I'm thinking you should try an older version of Wallet & GPay [Google Pay] (APKMirror would be a good resource to look at) and see if it still doesn't show up with those; maybe a recent update is causing some kind of bug/glitch/incompatibility...
Also, if not Wallet or Magisk, I'm thinking since this had all started with Google Play Services, it might still have to do with that more than anything else. I recall myself when I was attempting some other things, I cleared cache & data of Services, Services Framework, and Play Store and found that my Wallet had been reset as well (even though I did not clear its data); Also I think I do remember seeing the quick tile as unavailable. Maybe re-establishing Play Services & Framework need to be done before anything as well. I know Play Store didn't want to work right until I cleared data twice more on Play Services...
If it is root, I would suggest flashing the stock init_boot back and removing/uninstalling Magisk and seeing if it would still cause the issue -- although, now that I think of it, will Wallet put up a stink just for having the bootloader unlocked? because if it does, I wouldn't re-lock the bootloader just for this and would instead trying other hide-root methods instead...
Also, a thought -- You could try other Quick Tile apps/customizers to see if they can't get a proper Quick Tile for Wallet working. It might show whether any/all Quick Tiles towards it are having an issue or just the Wallet app...
I dunno if any of this will get anything working properly, but it's just some ideas to help troubleshoot and maybe identify/narrow-down where the issue might truly lie...good luck!
V0latyle said:
Given that everything was working prior, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance as this isn't a attestation/certification issue.
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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Completed and still no dice. Guess I'll just do a fresh install at the next update and wipe everything.
EDIT: it did work! It's taken 2-5 minutes to load but the card is now in the QS tile and on the lock screen. Thank you.
Schroeder09 said:
Completed and still no dice. Guess I'll just do a fresh install at the next update and wipe everything.
EDIT: it did work! It's taken 2-5 minutes to load but the card is now in the QS tile and on the lock screen. Thank you.
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Glad to help.
Just Google Play Services? What about Play Store and Play Protect?
Are there any adventages or disadventages in putting normal apps on it, e.g. Discord or Instagram?
What are you trying to achieve? You don't need to put any apps on the denylist.
Play Services (alongside with Play Store, but not in every case) is necessary to be put on the denylist in order to download some apps, like Netflix or Revolut.
Some apps can be downloaded without Play Services being on the denylist, but will not work unless you put them on the list as well (many banking apps (Revolut), but also McDonald's app, interesting example).
It's a shame the denylist works on a blacklist logic instead of whitelist, but oh well.
TL;DR: If an app won't work because of root, put it on the denylist, clear all data & cache, restart it, and you're all set.
Lada333 said:
What are you trying to achieve? You don't need to put any apps on the denylist.
Play Services (alongside with Play Store, but not in every case) is necessary to be put on the denylist in order to download some apps, like Netflix or Revolut.
Some apps can be downloaded without Play Services being on the denylist, but will not work unless you put them on the list as well (many banking apps (Revolut), but also McDonald's app, interesting example).
It's a shame the denylist works on a blacklist logic instead of whitelist, but oh well.
TL;DR: If an app won't work because of root, put it on the denylist, clear all data & cache, restart it, and you're all set.
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I mean as "base apps" so that android works like usual, updates, etc
naturally youd need to put new user app on that that complains about root.
So play store and play services it is? thanks!
G5-User7080 said:
I mean as "base apps" so that android works like usual, updates, etc
naturally youd need to put new user app on that that complains about root.
So play store and play services it is? thanks!
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Updates you'll get either way, but for "access" to all apps in the Play Store, I think it's just Play Services and the store itself.
So I just bought my google pixel 7 pro and promptly rooted it, I set Magisk up and even got the safety net fix mod version. I also passed YASNAC so im trying to figure out why I can see certain apps from the google playstore like for instance KWGT. I live in the states so it makes no sense to me as to why i wouldnt be able to see apps.
I am also getting an error when trying to sign in to apps like youtube and youtube music
Idk at this time exactly what all I cant find, but i can tell something is amok, can someone help me out here?
Kai2150 said:
So I just bought my google pixel 7 pro and promptly rooted it, I set Magisk up and even got the safety net fix mod version. I also passed YASNAC so im trying to figure out why I can see certain apps from the google playstore like for instance KWGT. I live in the states so it makes no sense to me as to why i wouldnt be able to see apps.
I am also getting an error when trying to sign in to apps like youtube and youtube music
Idk at this time exactly what all I cant find, but i can tell something is amok, can someone help me out here?
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Usually not seeing apps in Play Store is because of Play Protect certification not being "Device is certified". This is caused by rooting. Usually USNF MOD (2.4.0-MOD_1.2 as of this writing) is enough to take care of this type of issue.
So first things first, check on the status of your device; check your Play Protect certification (in Play Store settings, About if you aren't aware), what you pass in apps YASNAC and Play Integrity API Checker. I'm guessing you're not gonna pass everything you need to (everything but STRONG_INTEGRITY), and if you don't, you most likely need to reset a bunch of Google services to get it reset and re-established to see everything...
I can walk you through that if it ends up being that way...
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Usually not seeing apps in Play Store is because of Play Protect certification not being "Device is certified". This is caused by rooting. Usually USNF MOD (2.4.0-MOD_1.2 as of this writing) is enough to take care of this type of issue.
So first things first, check on the status of your device; check your Play Protect certification (in Play Store settings, About if you aren't aware), what you pass in apps YASNAC and Play Integrity API Checker. I'm guessing you're not gonna pass everything you need to (everything but STRONG_INTEGRITY), and if you don't, you most likely need to reset a bunch of Google services to get it reset and re-established to see everything...
I can walk you through that if it ends up being that way...
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Yeah it says I'm not certified, tho Yasnac says I pass the basic check. I'll try using the Play Integrity API checker and get back to you and yeah if you could walk me through that would be a big help
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Usually not seeing apps in Play Store is because of Play Protect certification not being "Device is certified". This is caused by rooting. Usually USNF MOD (2.4.0-MOD_1.2 as of this writing) is enough to take care of this type of issue.
So first things first, check on the status of your device; check your Play Protect certification (in Play Store settings, About if you aren't aware), what you pass in apps YASNAC and Play Integrity API Checker. I'm guessing you're not gonna pass everything you need to (everything but STRONG_INTEGRITY), and if you don't, you most likely need to reset a bunch of Google services to get it reset and re-established to see everything...
I can walk you through that if it ends up being that way...
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I also checked with Play Integrity API checker and it passed everything but strong integrity.
simplepinoi177 said:
Usually not seeing apps in Play Store is because of Play Protect certification not being "Device is certified". This is caused by rooting. Usually USNF MOD (2.4.0-MOD_1.2 as of this writing) is enough to take care of this type of issue.
So first things first, check on the status of your device; check your Play Protect certification (in Play Store settings, About if you aren't aware), what you pass in apps YASNAC and Play Integrity API Checker. I'm guessing you're not gonna pass everything you need to (everything but STRONG_INTEGRITY), and if you don't, you most likely need to reset a bunch of Google services to get it reset and re-established to see everything...
I can walk you through that if it ends up being that way...
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Something else I just figured out is Google Play Services keeps unchecking itself in the DenyList, from what I can tell it's after each restart.
I went ahead and cleared Google Play store, Google Play services, and Google wallet l, idk what else to clear but I did it in airplane mode restarted then turned off airplane mode
Kai2150 said:
Something else I just figured out is Google Play Services keeps unchecking itself in the DenyList, from what I can tell it's after each restart.
I went ahead and cleared Google Play store, Google Play services, and Google wallet l, idk what else to clear but I did it in airplane mode restarted then turned off airplane mode
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After clearing it doesn't show if the device is certified or not so... Idk what to do here
Kai2150 said:
Something else I just figured out is Google Play Services keeps unchecking itself in the DenyList, from what I can tell it's after each restart.
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If you are using an USNF mod, then that is normal. The mod won't work properly if Google Play Services is checked so it unchecks it and "denies" it in the background.
Lughnasadh said:
If you are using an USNF mod, then that is normal. The mod won't work properly if Google Play Services is checked so it unchecks it and "denies" it in the background.
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I figured it out, I cleared everything and got it certified so we are straight now ty
Kai2150 said:
I figured it out, I cleared everything and got it certified so we are straight now ty
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I'm glad it got figured out...
Sorry I only now had time to come in and help...
basically, it went as I was going to say & predict; with you passing everything, it gets tricky -- after you clear data and cache on multiple google services, you'll find that Play Store won't state anything about it being certified, and usually it randomly comes back as certified after some time. This is the experience I've read of other members here.
But alls well that ends well...hopefully everything now will be problem free...