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Firstly, let me preface this by saying I've never owned a Moto X phone before, so some of what I'm about to say may not be specific to the Moto X Play's implementation of Moto Display.
When I got my Moto X Play, I was excited to start using the Moto Display feature for displaying notifications. I know a lot of people really like it. Unfortunately, based on what I see on the Play, I can't see me using it regularly.
- The phone is "too" sensitive to motion when figuring out when to trigger Moto Display. Often times, any slight movement will activate it (such as when sitting on the armrest of my living room recliner. Now, if it did this only when notifications were present, I could tolerate it. Otherwise, the screen constantly wakes up briefly for no reason. Obviously, they had to make some concession here as there's no infrared sensors that wold sense a hand wave over the screen to wake it, but this approach just leads to a lot of false activations.
- The screen hardly stays lit up enough to do anything half the time when you DO pick up the phone. Pick up the phone, catch whether the icon shown is just the lock or an actual notification icon, then quickly swipe up before the screen turns off. Now, obviously it may have always been like this, but I have a feeling they may have shortened the screen on time to help compensate for the fact that this phone uses an LCD instead of AMOLED display.
Either way, the combination of both of these things has not led to a good experience for me.
I agree. Moto Display is a great concept but it really needs a few customization options:
a toggle option to have it only turn on the display when there are notifications
an option to set how long it wakes the screen when you move the phone
an option to change the sensitivity (it's just way too sensitive as it is)
Try changing from Moto Display to Ambient Display, it's a variation that I find works better for me YMMV.
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I agree. Moto Display is a great concept but it really needs a few customization options:
a toggle option to have it only turn on the display when there are notifications
an option to set how long it wakes the screen when you move the phone
an option to change the sensitivity (it's just way too sensitive as it is)
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There should be an option for the display to turn on when you reach for your phone in the Moto app under actions
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atistang said:
There should be an option for the display to turn on when you reach for your phone in the Moto app under actions
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The reason that isn't there is because this phone doesn't have the necessary sensor to recognize your hand above the screen.
It's unfortunate but I imagine it was omitted to keep the cost of the phone down.
It's funny, because coming from a Moto X (2013), I feel like the X Play is actually less sensitive! When I'm in the subway or the bus, I usually only to slightly raise it toward me to trigger it. Now I have to put it facedown then face up. I never used the power button on my good ol' 2013, so I actually liked that much sensitivity. I understand the IPS display couldn't handle it without draining the battery - though the X Battery could probably still have one good day of use, though. I'm actually annoyed when it's triggered at night, because instead of only seing the time and a lock, you see the time, a lock and A SUPER UGLY BLACK SCREEN whereas the 2013 screen was virtually invisible in the dark.
The 2013 Moto Display experience was better than the 2015 experience. I'm sad.
One thing I like is that you can pause music and skip tracks via the Moto Display though, whereas you could only open the app on the 2013.
the phone activating itself its the ''breathing'' feature so you can see the time. try android 5 ambient display.
Hi,
I'm seriously considering to order the mate9 at the USA tomorrow, have some pre-buying questions:
1. Does the battery lastsat least 12 hours? I really seek a phone that won't be able to drain a bettery in a single day
2. Can you unlock/wake the phone using the fingerprint only (no pressing on the power button)?
3. Any technique to achieve something similar to s7 always on display (see notifications without opening the phone)?
Thanks!
cheers,
Yoni
1 - Yes
2 - Yes
3 - Don't know
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You can set Mate 9 to wake screen on notification but it seems to not support, at least in full, the regular implementation of interactive lock screen notifications. That said, I do recall a setting somewhere to allow text input on notifications (I think specifically for lock screen). But in daily use, some app notifications work on lock screen as expected and some don't.
See thread below for more detailed discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/notifications-bug-t3505886/page7
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# 1 - the battery life is better than any phone that I have ever used - and I've used just about everything. The most I have got the battery down to in one long day of heavy use is 44%.
#2 - the fingerprint reader takes a bit of patience to get it properly registered, but then it works brilliantly. The reader is placed so that it falls nicely just under the index finger, and wakes up the phone or answers a call with just a touch.
I see what was happening with lock screen notifications and it is due to funky (stupid) way the phone manages things. When an app installs the phone restricts permissions as it this is is appropriate (think you can turn this off but I did after installing most apps). Anyways, certain (most apps) had the diary content on lock screen off so I set it on and expect more normal lock screen notification behavior now.
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Buy a smartwatch you can get a moto 360 cheap on eBay right now. I personally wouldn't use any 'always on' apps on a device with an LCD as it might cause a lot of battery drain. I haven't tried though. -something to note, huawei fixed the notification icons in the last update.
Great answers, much appreciated.
In overall would you recommend the phone? my other option is s7 edge which seems to tick all boxes only I adore bigger screens.
p.s. side question - any idea whether I can scroll using the fingerprint?
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Great answers, much appreciated.
In overall would you recommend the phone? my other option is s7 edge which seems to tick all boxes only I adore bigger screens.
p.s. side question - any idea whether I can scroll using the fingerprint?
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scroll using fingerprint sensor brings down the notifications.
I had note 7 and minus the s pen this is a very good device to keep me going until the next note is launched....waiting impatiently.
I tried the oneplus 3 but prefer this much more.
Absolutely recommend. Had S7 Edge and was so tired of the Samsung BS, tacky TW software and design and screen too small. Mate 9 is far better device.
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For enabling the fingerprint scanner features from Pixel on all phones...
https://goo.gl/AoJ1sB
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yonatan99 said:
Hi,
I'm seriously considering to order the mate9 at the USA tomorrow, have some pre-buying questions:
1. Does the battery lastsat least 12 hours? I really seek a phone that won't be able to drain a bettery in a single day
2. Can you unlock/wake the phone using the fingerprint only (no pressing on the power button)?
3. Any technique to achieve something similar to s7 always on display (see notifications without opening the phone)?
Thanks!
cheers,
Yoni
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Note: I don't have this phone, yet. Considering it pretty hard. I'm in U.S., so will probably be at least January.
3 - Regarding notifications, that is important to me as well. I posted a question about the LED, and sounds like that is a possibility, for use with something like Lightflow. For example, I have the led Green for email, Blue for task notifications, Red for missed call, Flashing red for messages, etc.
If the LED doesn't work out, another possibility is something lke the NoLed app. It will work similar as I discussed above, but simulates an led on the screen.
Hello.
Im thinking of swithing from an 6p to a mate 9. The reason is that, i think everybody knows that 6p has shutdown problems and they are driving me crazy. I realy enjoy sing my 6p, but the time has come.
Is here somebody who came from a 6p to a mate9? Pros and cons over the 6p?
there isnt much information about user experience comparing them two, thats why im asking it here. Is it worth it or not?
the bigger battery, "stereo kind of" speakers, large display, less bezzels, and kirin 960 vs 810 , it is allready very tempting.:good:
I ordered my brand new Mate 9 and it is going to be in my hands tomorrow evening. I will share my experiences asap.
I had the 6p for a while.
6p pros...
Better speakers, the mate 9 speakers are good but not near as good as the Nexus.
More development
Stock Android, if you prefer that
Mate 9 pros...
Better and bigger display
Better fingerprint sensor
The camera appears to be better
Very long battery life
Expandable storage
IR Blaster
I actually like EMUI, it has a lot of neat features
I think the Mate 9 looks better
Faster and smoother than the 6p
If I think of more, I'll report back.
Rooted Nexus 6p (RRemix MM rom) user to rooted Mate 9 (MHA-L29 C432B138) user. Best decision I ever made. I am on AT&T. Both my Pebble Time Steel and Samsung Gear S3 Classic work great with it. Honestly, zero hiccups. I use Nova Launcher Prime and a handful of other applications for notifications/ease. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I agree with the gentleman above. Honestly, you will love the extra battery life, the amazing camera, and smoothness. The wifi is also stronger/more consistent. The display is actually pretty damn amazing despite being 1080P LCD.
Honestly, the developers are coming...trust me. So much has happened especially thanks to @duraaraa. The Mate 9 is hands down the best phone I've ever had. I have zero regrets.
yes, the speakers, the display, and the developement for the 6p are pros.
But as it seems the Mate 9 will be a good upgrade, till that time when this years flagships will be launched.
After 6 months ill maybe give mate9 back to my provider, and upgrate to a more top notch phone. till that im almost sure i can live without flashing roms, and e.t.c, and get used to EMUI. As when i took LG G4 after Nexus 5.
and is the difference in display quality noticable as coming from qhd to full hd?
Came from 6p and had the shut down issue. You might be over exaggerating a little. Mine would randomly shut down under 10%. Wasn't a huge deal.
I've used the 6p off and on since release. Only reason I was using last couple of months because I cracked my mate 8.
Battery life is the biggest pro for me. After using the mate 8 for so long, going back to a smaller battery had me charging a few times a day versus maybe once a day. Always searching for a charger. I am a media/data hog.
Biggest pro for Nexus is the modding community.
Most important for me is tlthe mate series can take a beating and the only phone that makes me rethink the 2k display. Nothing competes with Samsung flagship displays but this is a quality 1080p panel.
Plus with T-Mobile binge on and it's 480p, I could care less besides bragging rights.
Mine 6p is shutting down even at 60%, and i can turn it on only when i find a charger. And it is hard when i havent got the charger by hand, and i need a phone. Thats why im searching for a good upgrade. I dont want an s7 edge or anything else. The only phone that felt in my eyes was mate 9. The bigger battery and performance comparision sn810 vs kirin 960.
And maybe the developement, and roms will start to appear here after time.
I got mate 9 pro after the 6p because of the shut down issues. No complaints this far
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Got the Mate 9 after my 6p went into bootloops. Huawei will replace but couldn't wait 2 weeks without a phone so bought the Mate 9. Everything mentioned above is right on. It is a great phone. I really like EMUI. The black theme makes it even better. Battery is great compared to 6p. Phones are like new girlfriends, there are things you like and dislike in the beginning. It takes time to get used to the change The battery was the #1 reason I went with the Mate 9 and not the V20. Glad I did.
Came from a 6P also and I love this phone. I do miss the Nexus development but this phone has been great so far, and I actually don't mind running emui. Would love to see AOSP on this bad boy but I can actually live with the phone as is.
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Upgraded to the Huawei Mate9 because my Huawei 6P has been wonderful! The Mate9 has newer better specs and amazing form factor! Keeping both and look forward to root, flashing, etc...
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Rooted Nexus 6p (RRemix MM rom) user to rooted Mate 9 (MHA-L29 C432B138) user. Best decision I ever made. I am on AT&T. Both my Pebble Time Steel and Samsung Gear S3 Classic work great with it. Honestly, zero hiccups. I use Nova Launcher Prime and a handful of other applications for notifications/ease. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I agree with the gentleman above. Honestly, you will love the extra battery life, the amazing camera, and smoothness. The wifi is also stronger/more consistent. The display is actually pretty damn amazing despite being 1080P LCD.
Honestly, the developers are coming...trust me. So much has happened especially thanks to @duraaraa. The Mate 9 is hands down the best phone I've ever had. I have zero regrets.
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Would you mind sharing with us what apps you use for notifications /ease apart from nova?
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I really love EMUI as many things are baked into the system. But it's not perfect. You'll find many small things missing. Third party music controls on LS for example.
I actually smashed screen on Nexus 6P and also dropped in loo.. Still works but actually got the Mate 8 and I love it some much going to sell and get Mate 9 I love Emui and solid performance of the mate 8 and with Resolution of Mate being a lot lower have not noticed one bit..
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Would you mind sharing with us what apps you use for notifications /ease apart from nova?
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Launcher: Nove Prime.
LED Notifications: Light Manager or Light Flow Legacy. I went back to Light Manager because it's just simpler/faster to customize. I use the "always on" feature to have my LEDs come on. Light Flow allows you to prioritize. It's really a matter of preference. Use the fastest setting or 1 second setting or always on feature in each app if you want it to work properly. Also, the only colors that work are Blue, Cyan, Yellow, White, Orange, Red, Pink, and Green. If you venture too far from their spectrum, no light will show up. TIP: make sure not to use any of the custom battery settings for the LED because that will mess with the notifications. Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red, Yellow, Green; I found this annoying, but at least this way it works consistently. That is the biggest thing I miss about my Nexus 6P - the stronger/brighter LED that actually blinked faster rather than pulsed like the Mate 9. I can't stand pulse (you have to leave this on in the main settings for the LED to work), so I use the "Always On" settings in either of these LED apps to be able to easily see my LED notification.
File Manager: Solid Explorer (best file/root manager app period recommended by top developers on XDA).
Music: Spotify.
Weather: 1Weather (has solid widgets for time, weather, different locations and customization for appearance).
Lock widget: Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly. Saves battery and the waste of using a separate widget app.
Flashlight: Tiny Flashlight + LED - great widget with custom icons that works well.
Ad-free App: AdAway - you need to be rooted, but it works once you have restarted your phone, enabled it, and made sure it is in the ALLOWED apps under Ignore Optimizations in Settings.
Casting App: Bubble UPnP - hands down the best app for casting to a smart tv, dlna device/dongle, and chromecast device.
Video Player: MX Player Pro.
Tech Apps: XDA Forums and Geekbytes Pro (the best tech info app that compiles tech info from multiple places like Droid-Life, Phandroid, Android-Headlines, etc).
Wall Charger Voltage/Power Checker: Ampere.
Off the the top of my head, those are the most useful. If you have a Pebble or Samsung Gear S3 smartwatch, I know a bunch of apps that make them much more useful. PM me for that or any other questions regarding specific apps. You don't really need any battery saving/optimizing apps like Greenify or Doze because Nougat has built in Doze (the optimization, etc). You can, however, download Wakelock Detector to see what apps keep your device awake in different scenarios. That can be pretty useful at narrowing down battery hogs. All the best! :highfive:
Another former Nexus 6p-turned-Mate 9 user here.
To be fair, I really loved the design, screen, camera and the stock experience of the 6p. Have used it for 1+ years and would want to keep it longer. Unfortunately the phone becomes increasingly unreliable as the battery failed me a few times when it reaches 20%.
Changed to Mate 9 a couple of weeks ago and never looked back. Here's what stood out for me for this phone:
- dual sim, with 64GB built-in storage. Can run 2 sims comfotably in one phone without having to worry about storage
- Great battery life, even with 2 sims (Sim 1 running 4G) and with wifi and BT on as well
- Super fast charging!
- Screen is good, don't miss the higher res of 6p
- Camera is decent, comparable to 6p for normal lighting. Though i feel 6p performs better under low lighting. The monochrome shots of Mate 9 are beautiful.
- Audio quality from the earjack is very good and that is important for me as I listened to music regularly. Speakers are not as bad as what some reviews says
- Speed and memory management is good, especially considering it's not stock android. EMUI is not too intrusive either.
The only thing i would miss from 6p is the regular updates for Android. But then given how Google has been messing up the regular updates and Nougat, stability might be a good thing! And Mate 9 would have been perfect if it's water resistant/proof.
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Launcher: Nove Prime.
LED Notifications: Light Manager or Light Flow Legacy. I went back to Light Manager because it's just simpler/faster to customize. I use the "always on" feature to have my LEDs come on. Light Flow allows you to prioritize. It's really a matter of preference. Use the fastest setting or 1 second setting or always on feature in each app if you want it to work properly. Also, the only colors that work are Blue, Cyan, Yellow, White, Orange, Red, Pink, and Green. If you venture too far from their spectrum, no light will show up. TIP: make sure not to use any of the custom battery settings for the LED because that will mess with the notifications. Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red, Yellow, Green; I found this annoying, but at least this way it works consistently. That is the biggest thing I miss about my Nexus 6P - the stronger/brighter LED that actually blinked faster rather than pulsed like the Mate 9. I can't stand pulse (you have to leave this on in the main settings for the LED to work), so I use the "Always On" settings in either of these LED apps to be able to easily see my LED notification.
File Manager: Solid Explorer (best file/root manager app period recommended by top developers on XDA).
Music: Spotify.
Weather: 1Weather (has solid widgets for time, weather, different locations and customization for appearance).
Lock widget: Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly. Saves battery and the waste of using a separate widget app.
Flashlight: Tiny Flashlight + LED - great widget with custom icons that works well.
Ad-free App: AdAway - you need to be rooted, but it works once you have restarted your phone, enabled it, and made sure it is in the ALLOWED apps under Ignore Optimizations in Settings.
Casting App: Bubble UPnP - hands down the best app for casting to a smart tv, dlna device/dongle, and chromecast device.
Video Player: MX Player Pro.
Tech Apps: XDA Forums and Geekbytes Pro (the best tech info app that compiles tech info from multiple places like Droid-Life, Phandroid, Android-Headlines, etc).
Wall Charger Voltage/Power Checker: Ampere.
Off the the top of my head, those are the most useful. If you have a Pebble or Samsung Gear S3 smartwatch, I know a bunch of apps that make them much more useful. PM me for that or any other questions regarding specific apps. You don't really need any battery saving/optimizing apps like Greenify or Doze because Nougat has built in Doze (the optimization, etc). You can, however, download Wakelock Detector to see what apps keep your device awake in different scenarios. That can be pretty useful at narrowing down battery hogs. All the best! :highfive:
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Can you please elaborate the given part please? I did not understand this part at all. "Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red , Yellow , Green : I found this annoying , but at least this way it works consistently"
This one too. " Lock widget Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly . Saves battery and the waste of using separate widget app" Does nova has a LS widget? How to do it?
vipivj said:
Can you please elaborate the given part please? I did not understand this part at all. "Just leave the stock battery feature to monitor that LED going from Red , Yellow , Green : I found this annoying , but at least this way it works consistently"
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So, the stock pulse LED from system settings overrides all battery LED changes. So, it's pointless to modify the battery LED settings in Light Manager or Light Flow. The stock colors change based on battery level from RED (0-29% (I think)) to YELLOW (30-89%) to GREEN (90-100%) when plugged in for charging. So, if you attempt to modify the battery LED colors within one of these apps, it will either do nothing or mess up the other notifications.
opasha said:
So, the stock pulse LED from system settings overrides all battery LED changes. So, it's pointless to modify the battery LED settings in Light Manager or Light Flow. The stock colors change based on battery level from RED (0-29% (I think)) to YELLOW (30-89%) to GREEN (90-100%). So, if you attempt to modify the battery LED colors within one of these apps, it will either do nothing or mess up the other notifications.
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Thanks for the info.
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opasha said:
So, the stock pulse LED from system settings overrides all battery LED changes. So, it's pointless to modify the battery LED settings in Light Manager or Light Flow. The stock colors change based on battery level from RED (0-29% (I think)) to YELLOW (30-89%) to GREEN (90-100%) when plugged in for charging. So, if you attempt to modify the battery LED colors within one of these apps, it will either do nothing or mess up the other notifications.
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In my case I am not able to use many colors consistently. Like yellow or cyan etc. When I set colours to yellow for third party apps and do the test the colour appears is always random like red or green. Any idea? App: Light flow legacy
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This one too. " Lock widget Nova lets you create your own custom icon for this under Actions and it works instantly . Saves battery and the waste of using separate widget app" Does nova has a LS widget? How to do it?
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Hold anywhere on the screen where there is space for an ICON. Then select WIDGETS. At the top you will see, Nova Action, select that. Then select Screen Lock. That's it. It will create a Screen Lock icon that locks your screen. If you hold this icon, you can EDIT. This will allow you to rename it or have no name (I have no name so it looks more like a widget icon than an app icon). The awesome part is that you can have a swipe action for it also. So, this allows you to swipe up on the icon and it can do pretty much any NOVA option you want. Mine is currently set to SHORTCUTS > Directions (to my home) using Google Maps. If you select the icon, you can change it to any icon you want.
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Thanks for the info.
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In my case I am not able to use many colors consistently. Like yellow or cyan etc. When I set colours to yellow for third party apps and do the test the colour appears is always random like red or green. Any idea? App: Light flow legacy
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You're very welcome.
Light Flow Legacy is tricky because some of the color options given don't align up correctly to the Color Scale that matches the Mate 9 LED spectrum, so honestly, you just have to keep testing until you find the color that works within the 12-15 colors that are listed. I prefer Light Manager for this reason because it does the exact color and you don't need to guess.
Funny enough I was originally considering a 6P. I was looking to transition from iOS and a Nexus device looked like the most logical step to take.
Then I started reading about the battery shutdown issues with Nougat beta... and along came the Mate 9 to tempt me so here I am. Brilliant device.
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Hello, I've recently purchased a Oneplus 7 Pro and noticed it was using an OLED panel, the problem is that Burn-ins scare me a whole lot, as such, I have been wondering how others have been using their phones. I've tried using Google, but have found nothing truly satisfactory and as such, I have compilled a few questions i had about the display.
- Is screen burn-in still a real issue? and should I avoid using the phone over long periods of time?
- Do "True black" wallpapers help with this issue? what about dark gray? and a bright wallpaper?
- Do both the static navigation bar and status bar have issues? Same with the AOD, does the fingerprint icon cause issues?
- Should I take extra steps to prevent burn-in? (If so, please say which ones, eg. Any practices you have to prevent screen burn-ins)
(On a side note, does anyone approximatly know how long [in general] an OLED panel at medium brightness and daily moderate to heavy use has before it shows signs of burn-in?)
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but i have searched through the forums and have found nothing.
Thanks a lot!
CurlyApple said:
Hello, I've recently purchased a Oneplus 7 Pro and noticed it was using an OLED panel, the problem is that Burn-ins scare me a whole lot, as such, I have been wondering how others have been using their phones. I've tried using Google, but have found nothing truly satisfactory and as such, I have compilled a few questions i had about the display.
- Is screen burn-in still a real issue? and should I avoid using the phone over long periods of time?
- Do "True black" wallpapers help with this issue? what about dark gray? and a bright wallpaper?
- Do both the static navigation bar and status bar have issues? Same with the AOD, does the fingerprint icon cause issues?
- Should I take extra steps to prevent burn-in? (If so, please say which ones, eg. Any practices you have to prevent screen burn-ins)
(On a side note, does anyone approximatly know how long [in general] an OLED panel at medium brightness and daily moderate to heavy use has before it shows signs of burn-in?)
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but i have searched through the forums and have found nothing.
Thanks a lot!
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I don't even think about it.
I share the same concerns.
The last OLED phone I had was a Galaxy Nexus and I told myself I'd never get an OLED screen again after that nightmare.
Dealing with the OLED issues has been better with improvements in the technology and overall quality control.
Android OS also has some changes that help prevent burn in. For example the navigation bar and status bar change colors based on the app.
With AOD I know Samsung for example slowly moves the elements around so it doesn't burn in. You can enable the Oneplus AOD with root but Always on Display isn't the same as the Ambient Display on stock Oneplus. Ambient display doesn't stay on screen long enough to really cause any burn in.
Best practices are to avoid high brightness, stay at half or less. If you have a game HUD or other static elements on screen for extended periods of time, rotate the phone when in landscape so it is less likely to burn in.
I'm not an expert on this so i'd like to hear others responses too. This is a more expensive flagship phone so I want to use it for games but avoid the burn in.
I've already read some reports of burn-in on Oneplus Chinese board. The culprits seem to be some Tencent games and its video streaming service. All have very high contrast UI elements, and users tend to turn the brightness very high.
This was the case with my plasma TV. Civ4 left some nasty burn-in in the first year but after so many years of heavy PC usage those remain the only true burn-ins on the TV. It depends on the app. Are there some ways to measure contrast of onscreen elements? In addition to phones I need to replace my plasma with OLED in the coming years.
I got burn in on my OnePlus 3 bc I keep it in my car and use it for a music player, there were times I left it on overnight on a static image multiple times, so if u plan keeping ur phone on all the time on a certain image then u don't have anything to worry about.
I used the Galaxy S3, Oneplus 3, Oneplus 5T all with OLEDs. No burn in. Never. Of course if you are and extrem case and you leave the screen static on for a lot of hours on several days there MIGHT be the risk. But with normal to "normal" heavy usage you shouldnt really be concerned.
CurlyApple said:
Hello, I've recently purchased a Oneplus 7 Pro and noticed it was using an OLED panel, the problem is that Burn-ins scare me a whole lot, as such, I have been wondering how others have been using their phones. I've tried using Google, but have found nothing truly satisfactory and as such, I have compilled a few questions i had about the display.
- Is screen burn-in still a real issue? and should I avoid using the phone over long periods of time?
- Do "True black" wallpapers help with this issue? what about dark gray? and a bright wallpaper?
- Do both the static navigation bar and status bar have issues? Same with the AOD, does the fingerprint icon cause issues?
- Should I take extra steps to prevent burn-in? (If so, please say which ones, eg. Any practices you have to prevent screen burn-ins)
(On a side note, does anyone approximatly know how long [in general] an OLED panel at medium brightness and daily moderate to heavy use has before it shows signs of burn-in?)
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but i have searched through the forums and have found nothing.
Thanks a lot!
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Better u only turn it on for a few seconds, be carefull after 10 sec it gets critical..
Just don't leave the screen on at max brightness for long periods of time and you'll avoid burn in.
Because the pixels are self-illuminating and will eventually wear out/start dimming in an OLED display over time, this will probably be a concern with any phone that has such a display.
I had burn-in with my OnePlus 3T starting after a little over a year of use. I had my 6T for about 7 months and hadn't noticed any problems with it by that point.
I think the biggest culprit in long-term use is the notifications area of the status bar, unfortunately. The notification icons usually directly contrast with whatever is on the screen at the time, which ends up causing the pixels to wear out at different rates. While the burn-in on my 3T wasn't defined or crisp, there was a noticeable brightness difference where the icons usually display, and it was apparent any time there was a solid color in that area of the screen.
https://www.cnet.com/news/oled-screen-burn-in-what-you-need-to-know/
To fight this, keep up to date with swiping away notifications, and use gesture controls in OOS instead of the navigation bar.
Use Auto brightness and enjoy the phone...
Honestly, I would be concerned. I have noticed screen burn on my 7 Pro already. My specific case is that I use Waze while driving, and on long (> 1 hour) drives I get the UI lightly burned in. After I noticed it, I alternate the phone orientation 180 degrees to minimize its effects. I also have the "Colors" screen saver activate whenever plugged in, which has noticeably reduced & corrected the issue. Just be aware and adjust the phone orientation regularly and you should not see anything burn in.
My Galaxy S4 and 1+ 3T both had burn in, but after several years of use. (Same app was the culprit.) I think the reason it happened on my 7 Pro faster is because of the higher brightness and 90Hz refresh rate. Once I kicked it down to 60Hz it does not happen near as often .
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Honestly, I would be concerned. I have noticed screen burn on my 7 Pro already. My specific case is that I use Waze while driving, and on long (> 1 hour) drives I get the UI lightly burned in. After I noticed it, I alternate the phone orientation 180 degrees to minimize its effects. I also have the "Colors" screen saver activate whenever plugged in, which has noticeably reduced & corrected the issue. Just be aware and adjust the phone orientation regularly and you should not see anything burn in.
My Galaxy S4 and 1+ 3T both had burn in, but after several years of use. (Same app was the culprit.) I think the reason it happened on my 7 Pro faster is because of the higher brightness and 90Hz refresh rate. Once I kicked it down to 60Hz it does not happen near as often .
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Do you have your screen turned to full brightness when using waze? I keep mine at about 40-50% brightness. I use maps for 2-3 hours a day 4 or 5 days a week and I have had my 7 Pro since launch and I have zero burn in. I have never had burn in going back to my note 3 days either. I/m actually looking at my OP6 right now as well and no burn in there either (bought that on launch day as well). I also activated forced 90hz all apps on my 7Pro as well and nothing yet. I'm guessing it's your screen brightness that is doing it. Nothing else makes any sense.
Tmobile demo both phone in my store have burn in.... But also does the note 9 and a few others.
Those have the same image on the screen 90% of the time and the screens are set to max brightness to show off the display. All AMOLED displays will burn in if you test your phone the same. When I use maps, I turn off auto brightness and just set it bright enough to see the screen which usually is about 40% brightness. I also change my wallpaper like once a week as well
Had burn in on both 6p and s9 and all in status bar and navigation bar. Now I've installed system tuner and switched on full immersive mode. You need to be rooted though. Using battery widget to look at battery life.
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Hello, I've recently purchased a Oneplus 7 Pro and noticed it was using an OLED panel, the problem is that Burn-ins scare me a whole lot, as such, I have been wondering how others have been using their phones. I've tried using Google, but have found nothing truly satisfactory and as such, I have compilled a few questions i had about the display.
- Is screen burn-in still a real issue? and should I avoid using the phone over long periods of time?
- Do "True black" wallpapers help with this issue? what about dark gray? and a bright wallpaper?
- Do both the static navigation bar and status bar have issues? Same with the AOD, does the fingerprint icon cause issues?
- Should I take extra steps to prevent burn-in? (If so, please say which ones, eg. Any practices you have to prevent screen burn-ins)
(On a side note, does anyone approximatly know how long [in general] an OLED panel at medium brightness and daily moderate to heavy use has before it shows signs of burn-in?)
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but i have searched through the forums and have found nothing.
Thanks a lot!
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Used my OP3 for 3 years straight until I switched to the 7 pro. Never had to think about burn in. Just chill and enjoy the device
When using google maps or waze on long trips, keep the screen off till the next turn. That's what i do. I NEVER keep the screen on long enough with a static image. I don't think there is any tech that will not give a burn in with a static image over long periods of time. I will still pick OLED over LCD any day.
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When using google maps or waze on long trips, keep the screen off till the next turn. That's what i do. I NEVER keep the screen on long enough with a static image. I don't think there is any tech that will not give a burn in with a static image over long periods of time. I will still pick OLED over LCD any day.
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Everyone should just have a spare lcd phone for navigation. I use an iphone 6s for navigation in my card. Tether data from my phone and dont have tk worry about burn in
I use mine for navigation ,i drive a convertible so the screen is always on high brightness.
Never had any issues with my galaxy s8 which i had for over a year and used it the same way. Poor thing had the maps on more than anything else.i broke the display before the any burn ins.
The display should not have any burn ins even after prolonged use.
However you might want to keep it at 90%max brightness.
I make the most of my oneplus 7 pro so if i notice any burn ins i'll just return it to warranty. I don't care ,i use the phone however i want to.
Also the colors are going to be visibly washed out after a few years of use compared to when it was new,that's why i always insure my phones and just get a brand new one before my contract expires.
In order to avoid getting burn-in you have to:
1. Avoid displaying images with static contents for more than one hour at a time. Many people get their keyboard burnt in because they text obsessively.
2. Avoid using a higher brightness than you need.
3. Maybe use the gesture based navigation.
Tipically burn in is a non-issue but displaying static content for more than an hour uninterrupted can get it to appear, depends on the panel, brightness and color being displayed.. Just pause what you're doing every once in a while and you should be fine.
It has pwm even on full brightness. I tried the pwmfree app https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-amoled-pwmfree.3898070/ but it still hasn't fixed the problem.
Doesn't it bother you? My eyes hurt while looking at the screen.
I've read a bit about it on the link you've provided. How did you know if our phones have it? I am quite interested in this!
You use the camera from another smartphone or another device to look at the screen of the a52. And you change the shutter speed or exposure in the camera until you will see the bars pulsating on the screen of the a52.
Oh well then it seems like most of my phones since 2015 or so have had that, and I've never really suffered from headaches from it, not that I've noticed.
You can't notice it consciously, but some people, including me, are affected by it. The thing is this could easily fixed by samsung, but they wont do it. Other companies have removed the pwm effects on their amoled screens.
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You can't notice it consciously, but some people, including me, are affected by it. The thing is this could easily fixed by samsung, but they wont do it. Other companies have removed the pwm effects on their amoled screens.
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Damn that sucks, especially when you know its an easy fix from the OEM to implement.
One thing though, from what I've read off the PWM Free apk page, it uses a transparent black overlay and increases its opacity as you decrease brightness. If that's the case then you could use Twilight to acheive the same goal, right? Just max out the brightness and turn off auto brightness, then use Twilight as your brightness adjuster, turning the bluelight option down. Could that work?
The weird thing about the a52 is that it has pwm even on max brightness, so probably twilight wont work as well. I will try it later though. Same problem on the premium samsung range: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...been-addressed-on-the-s21-series/td-p/2641628
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The weird thing about the a52 is that it has pwm even on max brightness, so probably twilight wont work as well. I will try it later though. Same problem on the premium samsung range: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...been-addressed-on-the-s21-series/td-p/2641628
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Yeah, it still flickers even at full brightness. Maybe setting it at 60hz could fix that? I'll try it later to see if that could work. My previous phone doesn't have that issue at full brightness, so I'll gauge the difference based on the difference between the two.
I use mine only on 60hz and it still flickers.
Yeah, I've tested it and there is a difference between 60hz and 90hz, but the flicker is still present.
Edit: I also re did the test on my old device, a J7 Pro, and it stops to flicker altogether at peak brightness. So yeah, this phone has very prominent PWM.
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Edit: I also re did the test on my old device, a J7 Pro, and it stops to flicker altogether at peak brightness. So yeah, this phone has very prominent PWM.
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Yeah, that's why samsung should do something about it. Because we still have flickering at max brightness, we can't use other software to correct the issue.
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The weird thing about the a52 is that it has pwm even on max brightness, ...
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I suspect you didn't actually have the brightness set to maximum. This cannot be set manually, but is only set when the ambient brightness sensor (front camera) is illuminated by a very bright light - the sun, or a very bright flashlight. The brightness of the display is then visibly increased above the normal maximum.
Well, if the max brightness can't be controlled then it's not relevant. In this review https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...ntly-more-affordable-without-5G.539956.0.html they tested the pwm on the display with an osciloscope and it shows that when you manually set the display at 100% brightness it still has pwm. This is one of the worst pwm out there, and a shame for samsung to do something like this.
is a shame unless samsung make a change in the firmaware the a52 is a pain in the eyes i need to sell mine now i cant play any video game unless i want a eyestrain
Pwm sensitive here.
Samsung A71 was OK pwm 240 hz.
Samsung 21fe was OK pwm 240 hz.
Samsung s6 edge was OK pwm 240hz
Mi 11 ultra not OK pwm 480hz. Not OK even with anti-flickering or pwm_free / oledsaver app. Mi 11 ultra has Samsung display E4.
I really don't understand. Maybe is the highs and Bottoms in the amplitudes.
Works well on my galaxy s8
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I've read a bit about it on the link you've provided. How did you know if our phones have it? I am quite interested in this!
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Hi. I realised the negative effects last year after a year of using amoled display on redmi note 10. It gave me headaches and also my eye power changed from 0.5 to 1.5 for both the eyes in just less than a year. I do 3 hours of use a day. That's how I learnt about PWM and the headache it gives to people.
edit - REDMI NOTE 10 died a week ago and I am searching for a phone which doesn't have PWM issue in it. For past 7 days I am using LCD screen and my eyes feels a lot better.